[email protected],
i´m not really shure but as far as i know the 2.1 revision of snapdragon 810 cpu should have a gpu clock speed of 630 MHz max., correct?
So, on my device the max gpu speed is 600 MHz. so i think the "old" 2.0 revision is buildt in or am i wrong?
SirRobin78 said:
[email protected],
i´m not really shure but as far as i know the 2.1 revision of snapdragon 810 cpu should have a gpu clock speed of 650 MHz max., correct?
So, on my device the max gpu speed is 600 MHz. so i think the "old" 2.0 revision is buildt in or am i wrong?
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Sony merged commit to enable 630MHz on Z5, but they didn't on Z3+/Z4 for now.
Maybe Sony will include it in future release.
https://github.com/AndroPlus-org/an...mmit/0edab0ae1a6ac8e298fdb4edee0323a5cd773dad
I did not read the SoC's specs, but the clock limitations may differ depending on the manufacturer, not on the SoC.
Thinking of the overheating issues it's possible Sony reduced the GPU clock to reduce heat dissipation.
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Maybe Sony will include it in future release.
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So you mean this is a software thing?
SirRobin78 said:
So you mean this is a software thing?
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Yes.
Sony uses same S810 for Z3+/Z4 and Z5.
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Is there a way to overclock the Adreno 220 GPU that I consider to be laying dormant as of now inside the HTC EVO 3D and Sensation? I read some of post the the Desire HD section that mentioned they were jealous that the sensation already got a GPU overclock but they didn't provide a link and my searches have come up with nothing. If I could, I would post a link, but I didn't find anything. If anyone could provide a hit of clarity or insight into this topic, please do.
there is already a thread requesting that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285205
here is the sensation kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Dear god I wouldn't do that. The adreno 220 is a very good gpu. I think it's the fastest one commercially available.
Plus I've had a bad history with gpu overclocking. I tried overclocking my ATI 4820 and it just ended up not working at all
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
well thank you for redirecting me, and i was hoping somebody would have made some sort of app as was done for the Samsung GSII, but thank you nonetheless
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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From every ROM I've ever seen they never say the GPU has been overclocked. That requires Kernel modified.
Everything I've seen states "GPU Tweaks" which I believe only means they've tweaked the amount of memory allocated or the MPAA settings. Which is just a simple prop edit.
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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hao pley?
lol serious question.
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mahbad
sometimes I post drivel
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how is this thread going ?
I would really much like to see the possibility to overclock the adreno 220 because I think we can gain a lot of preformance in games etc..
hope someone looks in to it
Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
deadlocked007 said:
Umm its been here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
It overclocks the gpu to either 300 mhz or 320
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is this gonna work on Europe version?
aimbdd said:
Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
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qualcomm spec was 320MHz max (for HW001 and HW002)
i have 2 kernels - 1 @ 300 and 1 @ 320
How the andrino 220 stack up now,compare to the iphone 4S one and the mali 400,any answers will be greatly appreciated.
I am looking to buy a new phone,i don't like iphones,my current one is a Vibrant,so i am thinking about the Galaxys 2 from T mobile.
But since it use a 1.5 qualcoom cpu and andreno 220 GPU i don't know,since i don't know that GPU well,i don't know if it is weak or not,i love the Vibrant GPU it was quite ahead of anything until the Tegra 2 arrived.
Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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I have see some performance test and at least vs the Mali 400 which the other galaxy have is actually the slowest,i actually have read some reviews that say the T mobile one is the weakest performance wise thanks to the Adreno 220,but saw some text in which the Adreno was faster than the Tegra 2.
Since i am looking to buy a T mobile galaxy S i am trying to get the most research to see if i get it or not.
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This thread is purely a discussion about our phone's processor ability to be overclocked.
Does anyone here have any idea how our beloved xperia mini/minipro/lww processor can be clock as high as 2GHz as opposed to its default clock speed(1GHz)? If you carefully goes beyond our phone subforums into the realms other phone you can see that much of the phone there can't be overclock as high as our phone can go. Eg; other phone with 1GHz processor can only be overclock to 1.3GHz.
Any ideas? Developers facts can be very helpful.
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Well 1600 mhz is stable for me,I will try 2000 mhz as soon I install supported rom.About 1300 mhz max for some models looks stupid to me,I didnt read post that says that.
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Well 1600 mhz is stable for me,I will try 2000 mhz as soon I install supported rom.About 1300 mhz max for some models looks stupid to me,I didnt read post that says that.
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I've tried 2GHz on my phone, seems to be okay w/o any instability issue.
Fortunately our phone isn't maxed out at 1.3GHz, almost all kernel for our phone support up to 2GHz, what I meant is, phone like x10 seems to be maxed out at 1.3GHz. Just small increment from 1GHz to 1.3. While our phone can go all the way up from 1GHz to 2GHz doubling its default clock speed.
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i've only tried to run benchmarks on my phone up to 1.6GHz,
did not try higher speeds because i am worried about the CPU might break...
as per x kernel latest release, they have set the limit to just 1.8GHz.
seems that would be the safest our CPUs would reach but still its not same for all units.
i am not completely aware about the technical specifics of the CPU but it seems that it could have been made that way.
the only thing that would limit the CPU capabilities is the temperature and the battery capacity, since running an overclocked CPU on a 1200mAh battery is not that efficient.
You're not exactly correct OP.
My Active, with the OC Spartan kernel, goes up to 2Ghz on my device and its perfectly stable.
On my Desire Z however, stock Mhz is 800, and i have oc'd it to 1.9Ghz stable, thats over 140% (russian election pun not intended ) oc. It is one of the most highly overclockable devices yet.
So it's not only our devices that go to 100% of stock speeds. Ill remind you that companies, take some "malfuncioning" processor chips that might have a specific part of them not working, lower their speeds to make them stable chips, and then ship them out to manufacturing.
That is why some devices dont go over 1.9Ghz. Its just a matter of quality of the CPU. I know this because back in the days of the ATI9500, which was actually a ATI9700Pro, just underclocked because a pipeline was malfunctioning, so instead of throwing them away, they locked the pipeline and sold them as a lower budget Video Card. With some tools though you could unlock the pipeline and if you were lucky you could have an ATI9700Pro in the price of a ATI9500
I have one question while we are on this topic.
Our phones have MSM8225 chipset while the Arc S has MSM8255T (clocked at 1.4 GHz). I'm curious, is there any noticeable difference between these two chipsets? If there isn't why aren't our phones clocked at 1GHz?
The reason these go by 8255 and 8255T are stated in the post i made above. Same chips, different quality. It seems that not all 8255 can be stable up to 1.4-1.5Ghz, so they released a cheaper 8255 line that is clocked at 1Ghz.
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The reason these go by 8255 and 8255T are stated in the post i made above. Same chips, different quality. It seems that not all 8255 can be stable up to 1.4-1.5Ghz, so they released a cheaper 8255 line that is clocked at 1Ghz.
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You are completely right but I have to say that architecture has something to do as well on my old x10 mini arm6 I had a 600 MHz processor going at Max of 800 and something and now my lww arm7 can go as high as 2 ghz lol.
ginryu said:
You are completely right but I have to say that architecture has something to do as well on my old x10 mini arm6 I had a 600 MHz processor going at Max of 800 and something and now my lww arm7 can go as high as 2 ghz lol.
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The maximum CPU clock frequency is placed by kernel developer, what he thinks is fine. It is not that phone's CPU can really put up with that high clock frequency.
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The maximum CPU clock frequency is placed by kernel developer, what he thinks is fine. It is not that phone's CPU can really put up with that high clock frequency.
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Sure then the cpu had nothing to do when you clock a 600 mhz cpu to 845 mhz and it crashes?? come on that is a lame thing to say in this thread
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Sure then the cpu had nothing to do when you clock a 600 mhz cpu to 845 mhz and it crashes?? come on that is a lame thing to say in this thread
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What I ment, was that the actual maximal overclock frequency, where you can set it, is set by kernel developer.
You can set the CPU max frequency 1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, whatever. But the really maximum, which you can set, for example 2Ghz in Rage Kernel, 1.8Ghz in X Kernel, is set by kernel developer.
It is not tested that phone can put up with that high frequency. That is your own responsibility to try and risk.
Imagine cpus being made like cookies.Although you use the same ingredients not all cookies are baked the same, not matter how good your oven is.Cpus get out of the "oven" and tested for stability.The less stable are clocked lower, the more stable higher and that depends from the voltage they need to run and the maximum safe temperature that is allowed so the chip can last long time.So they say that chips which fall between A and B specifications (temp voltage etc...) are going to clocked to 1 GHz and those that range between C and D to 1.4 GHz.But those who are close to A are not the same as B, same with C and D.That's why some cpus clock better than others even though they're clocked at the same speed.At least that's how computer cpus were made if i recall correctly.
Its marketing trick.
Why should I buy WT19i when I can buy Arc S with higher clock rate.
Same processor because if processor is diffrent they would need to make new S1Boot,if in arc s is new bootloader patch wont work.
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Is it possible to overclock the Adreno 130 GPU of the HTC Hero? Like with the SGS2 you can overclock the Mali400
I dont think so, since i believe Adreno 130 is not a real GPU like an actual chip, but a part of the CPU that does some GPU functions so we are very restricted...
That makes sense.
Thank you
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I think it's possible, but would not recommend doing so.
If i am not mistaken our heros work at 576 MHz by default. Changing the value to a higher one could damage the phone, as greater frequencies require more cooling and our heros were not made to deal with that.
Overclocking also means a faster battery drain.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
mickro said:
I think it's possible, but would not recommend doing so.
If i am not mistaken our heros work at 576 MHz by default. Changing the value to a higher one could damage the phone, as greater frequencies require more cooling and our heros were not made to deal with that.
Overclocking also means a faster battery drain.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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That is CPU, he is asking GPU, btw I can OC my Hero to 672 MHz CPU without any damage
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That is CPU, he is asking GPU, btw I can OC my Hero to 672 MHz CPU without any damage
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Oh, Thank you then (still a newb here)
But doesn't a hero at 672 MHz cause a faster battery drain?
mickro said:
Oh, Thank you then (still a newb here)
But doesn't a hero at 672 MHz cause a faster battery drain?
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It does, but i like speed over battery, it can still last a day or two
hello guys... im plaining to get a new phone.. with Snapdragon 800 but i was reading thers 2 diferent Chips... the Low bin (Qualcomm MSM8974)
and the High bin (Qualcomm MSM8974AB) ... and i want something realy good that dosent f**k in some months... im a gamer so i love performance and good visuals.. and i know 2.2GHz are good but i was reading the NOTE 3 has the same Chip(Qualcomm MSM8974 the low bin) and its at 2.3Ghz... u guys think this can be solve by a kernel in the future? to get more GHz and MHz on GPU.. ? give me an opinion please
darkhelio said:
hello guys... im plaining to get a new phone.. with Snapdragon 800 but i was reading thers 2 diferent Chips... the Low bin (Qualcomm MSM8974)
and the High bin (Qualcomm MSM8974AB) ... and i want something realy good that dosent f**k in some months... im a gamer so i love performance and good visuals.. and i know 2.2GHz are good but i was reading the NOTE 3 has the same Chip(Qualcomm MSM8974 the low bin) and its at 2.3Ghz... u guys think this can be solve by a kernel in the future? to get more GHz and MHz on GPU.. ? give me an opinion please
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There is no difference in GPU with either device running snapdragon 800 SOC's. The chips are exactly the same in actual fact, its just the higher capacity of tolerance for the higher clocked speed. So if a chip could take a higher clock speed during a stress test, then they were clocked at 2.3ghz...
But even though on the XZU we have 2.2Ghz (2.150Ghz to be exact) we are more than likely to be able to overclock it to 2.3ghz... similarly that the 2.3Ghz SOC could be overclocked to 2.4Ghz...
- Obviously this depends on developers we get for the XZU.. and if they want to put the many man hours into kernel development
As far as future proof is concerned... The 800 will be good for 18 months...
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There is no difference in GPU with either device running snapdragon 800 SOC's. The chips are exactly the same in actual fact, its just the higher capacity of tolerance for the higher clocked speed. So if a chip could take a higher clock speed during a stress test, then they were clocked at 2.3ghz...
But even though on the XZU we have 2.2Ghz (2.150Ghz to be exact) we are more than likely to be able to overclock it to 2.3ghz... similarly that the 2.3Ghz SOC could be overclocked to 2.4Ghz...
- Obviously this depends on developers we get for the XZU.. and if they want to put the many man hours into kernel development
As far as future proof is concerned... The 800 will be good for 18 months...
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More than that it can only be that Sony actually set this limit for battery drain and thermal as well. While playing it become really hot. And if play and charge during the same time it become he'll. It remind me of the CPU that have on the HTC sensation and sensation XE, same CPU that was actually underclocked on the sensation.
As hamdogg just said, the CPU clock speed is not related to game, it's the GPU. All 800 SOC have the adreno 330
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thanks guys... because i want something good for the next months
Its dependant on so many variables and the Z Ultra has 50mg more allocated to video ram than other snapdragon devices. See comparison below
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-benc...ow-it-stacks-against-the-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
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Its dependant on so many variables and the Z Ultra has 50mg more allocated to video ram than other snapdragon devices. See comparison below
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-benc...ow-it-stacks-against-the-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
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So that's why the Ultra is so heavy!
LordManhattan said:
So that's why the Ultra is so heavy!
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Ha Ha yeah... mg or MB whats the difference
Due to overheating issues I've underclocked z5c cpu ( using this method and flashing the recompiled kernel ), is it possible to do the same with gpu? Which file do I have to look for?
AFAIK Adreno 430 runs up to 650 Mhz, 450-510 Mhz should be enough for my standard usage.
florstat said:
Due to overheating issues I've underclocked z5c cpu ( using this method and flashing the recompiled kernel ), is it possible to do the same with gpu? Which file do I have to look for?
AFAIK Adreno 430 runs up to 650 Mhz, 450-510 Mhz should be enough for my standard usage.
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I have no idea but you could take a look at the Adreno idler commits...
Here is one I did to add 27Mhz as the lowest clock (might be a good file to look at), instead of 180Mhz...
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