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Followed instructions to the T I'm pretty sure, and since then all incoming calls go straight to voicemail.. Now I want to revert back to stock, do the sunshine s off and then try revolution hd again to see if the problem goes away.
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Followed instructions to the T I'm pretty sure, and since then all incoming calls go straight to voicemail.. Now I want to revert back to stock, do the sunshine s off and then try revolution hd again to see if the problem goes away.
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This issue has been reported by a couple folks now (also on Euro based LP ROMs); although I don't think the exact cause and fix has been determined definitely yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/m8-skydragon-incoming-calls-t3042091
First off, if you have the AT&T version of the M8 and are s-on, you aren't on the right firmware (hboot, radio, and several other critical modules that don't flash with the ROM) for the an recent (Lollipop) version of ARHD. For now, s-off is needed to update to LP firmware; until AT&T releases LP officially by OTA, RUU.
Although I'm not sure its just a firmware issue (so that may or may not fix the issue). "International" ROMs often don't play well with AT&T's network; since the devs (often Euro) don't understand the nuances of AT&T's network. Not to knock those fine devs, but they can't know what they don't know (or can't test, since they aren't on that particular network). Plus, AT&T is probably mostly to blame, as they seem to do some things differently from just about every other carrier in the world.
The quick fix would be return to a stock AT&T ROM, as you have already figured out. You don't need s-off to do that. Restore your nandroid (that you should always make before messing with flashing new ROMs). Or find a stock AT&T ROM corresponding to your firmware, and flash in recovery. Another option is to relock the bootloader and RUU to stock.
Just need to dig in and get it done!
redpoint73 said:
This issue has been reported by a couple folks now (also on Euro based LP ROMs); although I don't think the exact cause and fix has been determined definitely yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/m8-skydragon-incoming-calls-t3042091
First off, if you have the AT&T version of the M8 and are s-on, you aren't on the right firmware (hboot, radio, and several other critical modules that don't flash with the ROM) for the an recent (Lollipop) version of ARHD. For now, s-off is needed to update to LP firmware; until AT&T releases LP officially by OTA, RUU.
Although I'm not sure its just a firmware issue (so that may or may not fix the issue). "International" ROMs often don't play well with AT&T's network; since the devs (often Euro) don't understand the nuances of AT&T's network. Not to knock those fine devs, but they can't know what they don't know (or can't test, since they aren't on that particular network). Plus, AT&T is probably mostly to blame, as they seem to do some things differently from just about every other carrier in the world.
The quick fix would be return to a stock AT&T ROM, as you have already figured out. You don't need s-off to do that. Restore your nandroid (that you should always make before messing with flashing new ROMs). Or find a stock AT&T ROM corresponding to your firmware, and flash in recovery. Another option is to relock the bootloader and RUU to stock.
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I can do anything that is new to me with good instructions. I WAS able to unlock, root, and flash a ROM with good success following the steps. What I would like to do now is put it back the way it was, then s off using sunshine, and then go ahead and flash the Revo HD ROM again and whatever else I need to do, maybe the firmware too idk. Before I started anything , I backed it up using HTC SYNC on my laptop. Is that useful in returning it to stock? Or is that just for media and texts and such? Maybe what I should do is check the forum where the Revo users are and see what they say. Sorry if it sounds like Im thinking out loud but Im a noob at forums and flashing. And Im getting burnt out on having a phone that doesnt receive calls properly. Not to mention burnt out from working all day and coming home to try and solve this mystery. OK I wont mention it. Thanks to those who have attempted to give me input here to try to figure this thing out.
Just a lil something to think about...,youll not have dialer, vvm messages,contacts integrated,signal will probably be not as good,and no VoLTE when using euro ROM's. Stand alone vvm app may or may not install from playstore if you use it. My suggestion,flash back to stock,wait alil while and get an official Lollipop release from ATT.
Flash a twrp backup of latest 4.4.4
Flash stock recovery from latest 4.4.4
Steps above will put you back to as close to stock as possible,without relocking bootloader and reflashing the exe ruu file.
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What I would like to do now is put it back the way it was, then s off using sunshine, and then go ahead and flash the Revo HD ROM again and whatever else I need to do, maybe the firmware too idk.
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If you don't flash the firmware, I don't think the above will help you in any way. You'll just be back to where you are now, just with s-off. Which is just a permission/security change; and won't change the functionality of the phone or address the issue with calls.
Either you need to change firmware, or ROM, or both, in order to fix the problem.
Flashed firmware successfully.........darn .zip.zip tricksters!!!! Anyway!
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If you don't flash the firmware, I don't think the above will help you in any way. You'll just be back to where you are now, just with s-off. Which is just a permission/security change; and won't change the functionality of the phone or address the issue with calls.
Either you need to change firmware, or ROM, or both, in order to fix the problem.
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After several attempts getting cannot load error I figured out I needed to back off the .zip from the renamed folder (its already a damn .zip)! duh....so finally got that done. Wondering what to do about relock now. Guess I will have to google it like everything else. Usually throws me right back in here when I do. I found a guy with the exact same problem I was having and it was just cuz he renamed it firmware.zip. Even the dude on youtube tells you to do it! Us noobs are this close to pulling our eyes out from that one!!!! But after trying this and trying that we finally flashted our firmwares on our little precious. Now to see if I can receive calls again. Whats the procedure for unlocking a relocked phone now? Can it now be done by a cmd prompt? Thanks people!
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After several attempts getting cannot load error I figured out I needed to back off the .zip from the renamed folder (its already a damn .zip)! duh....so finally got that done.
I found a guy with the exact same problem I was having and it was just cuz he renamed it firmware.zip. Even the dude on youtube tells you to do it! Us noobs are this close to pulling our eyes out from that one!!!! But after trying this and trying that we finally flashted our firmwares on our little precious.
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Do yourself a huge favor, and turn off the Windows option (if you haven't already) to hide known file extensions. The option is usually enabled by default. I suspect its mainly meant to prevent non-tech savvy PC users from deleting or modifying file extensions and rendering files unusable (or at least not associated with a program to open it).
For most folks who are going to be messing with things like modding phones, and even halfway familiar with the file extensions, the option to hide them is counter-productive and confusing.
The recommendation to rename the file to firmware.zip is valid. This is done since the files are often named things like 4.16.401 to differentiate the firmwares from each other (such as in firmware collections). Technically, you didn't rename the file to firmware.zip (although Windows make it look like you did), you actually named it firmware.zip.zip, even though Windows didn't display it that way.
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Wondering what to do about relock now. Guess I will have to google it like everything else. Usually throws me right back in here when I do.
Whats the procedure for unlocking a relocked phone now? Can it now be done by a cmd prompt? Thanks people!
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To unlock the bootloader again, simply go through the HTCDev.com process to get another unlock bin token, then run the fastboot command with that token again (like you did the first time).
On past devices, it was sometimes possible to reuse the original token (run the fastboot command with it). But an XDA user commented that doesn't work on this device (and that you need to get a new token). But you can always try it, if you want.
Flashed firmware and now stuck in HBOOT! I REALLY NEED HELP NOW
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This issue has been reported by a couple folks now (also on Euro based LP ROMs); although I don't think the exact cause and fix has been determined definitely yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/m8-skydragon-incoming-calls-t3042091
First off, if you have the AT&T version of the M8 and are s-on, you aren't on the right firmware (hboot, radio, and several other critical modules that don't flash with the ROM) for the an recent (Lollipop) version of ARHD. For now, s-off is needed to update to LP firmware; until AT&T releases LP officially by OTA, RUU.
Although I'm not sure its just a firmware issue (so that may or may not fix the issue). "International" ROMs often don't play well with AT&T's network; since the devs (often Euro) don't understand the nuances of AT&T's network. Not to knock those fine devs, but they can't know what they don't know (or can't test, since they aren't on that particular network). Plus, AT&T is probably mostly to blame, as they seem to do some things differently from just about every other carrier in the world.
The quick fix would be return to a stock AT&T ROM, as you have already figured out. You don't need s-off to do that. Restore your nandroid (that you should always make before messing with flashing new ROMs). Or find a stock AT&T ROM corresponding to your firmware, and flash in recovery. Another option is to relock the bootloader and RUU to stock.
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I picked a version that was made for the cid 001 according to android file host https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=24258 and after numerous attempts to flash I finally got it to go by getting rid of the renamed .zip at the end. ( It was already a zip file) I think a lot of people have had that problem. Anyway I have now a sort of bricked phone that wont leave HBOOT. My son bought an M8 that should be getting here in a day or so and I was wondering if I made a nandroid of that one, maybe it could pull me out of the hole. I still have fastbboot usb so maybe theres a procedure that will get me going again. Can anyone point me? I'll buy you a beer! or 12
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I picked a version that was made for the cid 001 according to android file host https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=24258
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401 firmware is Euro based firmware. AT&T is 501.
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Anyway I have now a sort of bricked phone that wont leave HBOOT. My son bought an M8 that should be getting here in a day or so and I was wondering if I made a nandroid of that one, maybe it could pull me out of the hole. I still have fastbboot usb so maybe theres a procedure that will get me going again.
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Probably making it more complicated than need be. Also, depending on what firmware you now have on the phone, and whether it corresponds to the "new" nandroid, you might not be in any better place than you are now.
I can think of at least 2 (rather simple) ways to get the phone up and running:
1) Flash a stock or custom ROM that corresponds to your firmware. You can adb push the ROM to your phone; or alternately move it to a removable SD using a card reader connected to your computer.
What hboot and radio numbers are currently on the device?
2) Relock the bootloader and RUU back to stock.
hboot and radio numbers currently on m8
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401 firmware is Euro based firmware. AT&T is 501.
Probably making it more complicated than need be. Also, depending on what firmware you now have on the phone, and whether it corresponds to the "new" nandroid, you might not be in any better place than you are now.
I can think of at least 2 (rather simple) ways to get the phone up and running:
1) Flash a stock or custom ROM that corresponds to your firmware. You can adb push the ROM to your phone; or alternately move it to a removable SD using a card reader connected to your computer.
What hboot and radio numbers are currently on the device?
2) Relock the bootloader and RUU back to stock.
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HBOOT-3.19.0.0000 [email protected] OS-3.42.502.1 eMMC-boot 2048MB
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HBOOT-3.19.0.0000 [email protected] OS-3.42.502.1 eMMC-boot 2048MB
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Dude, all you have to do is relock the bootloader using the fastboot command "fastboot oem lock" and download the HTC One M8 file from here http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html . With the phone plugged in to the computer, run the RUU file. It will bring the phone back to the most recent 4.4.4 OTA. Takes ten minutes. You're making this wayyyyyyy harder on yourself than it should be.
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HBOOT-3.19.0.0000 [email protected] OS-3.42.502.1 eMMC-boot 2048MB
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That is the Android 4.4.4 radio. Meaning the 401 firmware you linked and tried to flash didn't take. And it won't with s-on, unless its signed and hacked to accept AT&T's CID (which I don't think there is any 401 firmware that meets those requirements).
Agree with the above response, in that the easiest way to get the phone up and running again is relock the bootloader and RUU to stock.
Since your device is hboot 3.19, you are stuck with s-on and that means you are stuck on KitKat firmware until AT&T releases Lollipop officially.
That also means you can only run ROMs that support 4.4.4 firmware (no LP based Sense ROMs), otherwise you will run into various serious bugs like the call issue on ARHD (or broken WiFi). There are some LP GPE and AOSP ROMs that support the 4.4.4 firmware, if you want to go that route.
Was just starting out, not enough experience.
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Dude, all you have to do is relock the bootloader using the fastboot command "fastboot oem lock" and download the HTC One M8 file from here http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html . With the phone plugged in to the computer, run the RUU file. It will bring the phone back to the most recent 4.4.4 OTA. Takes ten minutes. You're making this wayyyyyyy harder on yourself than it should be.
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The above phone was eventually returned. Now I have an unlocked, s off M8. With help from PearlyMon I was able to do it all about a month ago. Now I'm just waiting to work up the nerve to flash a customer Rom and also add in the H/K sound feature. Really liked the HD Revolution Rom, I just didn't have the wherewithall to find and install the proper firmware. This time around will be better. On third M8 now. First one, brand new slipped out of workshirt pocket and faceplanted on a tile floor. First damn day! Didn't have the otter box defender case like I should've. 2nd and 3rd ones have been refurbs. So who knows how much use the battery saw before? So I'd like a nice Rom that has built in low battery drain. Every day it seems to drain off a little sooner. Went to black background today to help it out a little. Anyway, haven't been on this forum much since the above problem and thought I'd touch base with you and say thanks. Have a nice one.
I have the same problem as the OP with ATT using any custom ROM since i got the OTA lollipop update in early April. Firmware is 4.28.xx and it appears that no one has been able to work around it without flashing back to 4.16.xx
Anyone come across a ROM that will receive calls on ATT with s-on and 4.28?
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I have the same problem as the OP with ATT using any custom ROM since i got the OTA lollipop update in early April. Firmware is 4.28.xx and it appears that no one has been able to work around it without flashing back to 4.16.xx
Anyone come across a ROM that will receive calls on ATT with s-on and 4.28?
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Some folks have been having issues with "international" based custom ROMs on AT&T's LTE network. It seems that AT&T has been making some changes to LTE, possibly in preparation for Voice over LTE (VoLTE, which AT&T calls "HD Voice"), that are messing up voice calls on "international" ROMs.
Some folks have this trouble, while others don't. I can only assume its location dependent; and the mentioned "changes" have only been implemented in some areas. I've been running SkyDragon Sense 7 fine on AT&T in my home area of Massachusetts, as well as travelling to a couple other areas (Chicago and Green Bay) with none of the LTE issues.
You might try WNC's ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
Its based on the Lollipop Developer's Edition ROM, which is intended for use on AT&T's network. He's working on a version based on the AT&T 4.28 update, but its still in testing and not posted yet.
Yeah I've been running the SD 9.0 for several days and no love here in Dallas ... I could speculate for days since D is AT&T's home city.
Thanks for the info, I will definitely keep an eye out for WNC's next release. Does he usually do beta releases?
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Thanks for the info, I will definitely keep an eye out for WNC's next release. Does he usually do beta releases?
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He has a beta in testing right now. Just ping him, and he will probably send you a link to the test build. Probably the only reason he would say "no" is if he is going to release soon anyway.
redpoint73 said:
Some folks have this trouble, while others don't. I can only assume its location dependent; and the mentioned "changes" have only been implemented in some areas. I've been running SkyDragon Sense 7 fine on AT&T in my home area of Massachusetts, as well as travelling to a couple other areas (Chicago and Green Bay) with none of the LTE issues.
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Interestingly, I'm in Chicago and did have that problem with SkyDragon. Having reverted back to the stock ROM, everything works again. In my thread, I think you mentioned that you are using the "other GSM" option, rather than the AT&T specific option in AROMA. I wonder if it could be some of these AT&T specific "optimizations" or whatever that could be part of the problem.
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Interestingly, I'm in Chicago and did have that problem with SkyDragon. Having reverted back to the stock ROM, everything works again. In my thread, I think you mentioned that you are using the "other GSM" option, rather than the AT&T specific option in AROMA. I wonder if it could be some of these AT&T specific "optimizations" or whatever that could be part of the problem.
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Interesting, indeed. Did you pick AT&T from the AROMA options? If not, try the "other GSM" option (or whatever its called).
I was just in the Chicago area a few weeks ago to visit family. Not the city proper, but the suburbs of Arlington Heights and Batavia. I was on SD 7.0 at the time (there was no AT&T option for that version, so I had picked the "other GSM"). Everything seemed to be working fine.
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Interesting, indeed. Did you pick AT&T from the AROMA options? If not, try the "other GSM" option (or whatever its called).
I was just in the Chicago area a few weeks ago to visit family. Not the city proper, but the suburbs of Arlington Heights and Batavia. I was on SD 7.0 at the time (there was no AT&T option for that version, so I had picked the "other GSM"). Everything seemed to be working fine.
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So I re-flashed SkyDragon, and I think I was not understanding the difference between AROMA installer and the software itself. When I did it the first time, I think I did select T-mobile with wifi calling in AROMA, but AT&T within the software SIM setup. It did not work. Now after getting the stock ROM working, I re-flashed, chose the Other GSM/WWE/whatever option within AROMA, AT&T within the software, and all is right in the world. I may also try the same with Venom this weekend now that I have good restore options, though I don't recall if it had similar options in AROMA or not.
Hello everyone,
Right now I have another thread for the root over ADB with DirtySanta, I've that far. I have a potential method but I need more information on it from somebody else so I am waiting on a response from him, once i have that I'll work on it. If you guys have any other potential ideas that'd be great.
Thanks,
Abine45
This is my link to the root on ADB. I will be updating it tonight or tomorrow for the convenience of others. Thanks for waiting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-v10/general/temporary-root-adb-t3523538
NEW INFORMATION FOUND! I GOT SIGNIFICANT ROOT ACCESS WITH DIRTYSANTA!!!
SO i used the DirtySanta fearing for my life I wouldn't ruin my device, well the v10 failed it. rebooted and it didn't do anything but reboot back into the normal bootloader and stuff. But what i found is that he go the dirty cow to just work under root, so maybe from there we could do something, anybody have any ideas?
people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
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people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
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How did Tungkick manage to repackage it then? The dirty cow exploit can exchange recovery though on an unlocked bootloader so shouldn't I be able to replace the boot image if done correctly wouldn't it work? I could possibly unpack everything and modify it all and test it but the issue comes back to repacking and flashing?
Ask him, but if you attempt to do this on a locked and encrypted boot loader then you will brick the phone. I mean think about it, if it was really just that simple every phone would be rooted and rom'd. Most phones running 6 or above have had the security vastly increased to make the phone secure so they can be used by government employees. Hence the introduction to SELINUX polices into the kernel which is why getting root is so unbelievably difficult. The locked boot loader resets everything at boot so getting root and maintaining is so hard combined with SELINUX does not allow standard root to perm. write anything to the system partition and then good old hboot kills anything you did mange to write on reboot... you can start to see how difficult this really is.
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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LG are just not popular devices for hacking due to they make if extremely difficult. LG is a Corp. friendly company it is why Verizon loves them where companies like HTC are a bit more user sympathetic.
Funny you say that
beavis5706 said:
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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Funny you say that! Tungick said to me, and i quote "[email protected]#$g you" and blocked me from Facebook. He also told me that he wouldn't tell me because it's a secret. He didn't speak very great English, that's why there is an ing at the end of the F-bomb. I asked Jcase through XDA and he said he wouldn't and so i put it better explanation of help through an email and he said I was harassing him... In which case before hand he said he doesn't develop for LG because he says basically we are A-holes sadly and that we don't live up to our donation pledges.
That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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True, that's why I'm going to try to do it. If you know anything and want to help could use it.
Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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For sure, message me on xda.
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Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
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Anybody can help! Do some research and send it and whatever you would like to do. Try different things, Try to modify bits of code and see what you can do! Always gotta start somewhere!
Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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The thing with that is the fact that even if I know how systemless root works, I still have no way to install it, so first I need to find a way to get in the system.
Think I might have a way though
From what I understand systemless root will modify the boot image to attain root. Super SU will decide how to flash based on firmware version. Will automatically root normal with Lollipop and down, will automatically modify boot image on Marshmallow and up. How you will be able to modify the boot image on a VS990 without bricking it I don't know.
In order to do system less root we need a unlocked bootloader... It says that everywhere I'm reading
Hi abine45,
Please read this post completely, the guys here are close to obtain the perma root on android 6, using dirty cow.
https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195/issues/9
Sent from my E2006 using Tapatalk
I looked at this thread... a bit more technical than I am able to do... did it end up working? Looks like no, but I might have missed something.
Thanks!
Stock Pixel/Pixel XL Kernel + SafetyNet Patch
Current version: android-9.0.0_r0.111
Suitable for build(s): August 2019
Suitable for devices(s): Pixel XL (marlin) | Pixel (sailfish)
I compiled the stock kernel for the Pixel/Pixel XL and applied the SafetyNet patch by sultanxda. The kernel name says marlin, but this also works on sailfish. Google just created one kernel that works on both sailfish (Pixel) and marlin (Pixel XL) devices.
Use case for this kernel:
- If you want to stay completely stock, but have an unlocked bootloader, the SafetyNet is tripped which disables features such as Android Pay and Netflix.
- This kernel is completely stock except for the addition of a patch that removes the SafetyNet check.
- This kernel is only for the builds listed above!!!! This will not work on any prior build.
- All stock features will work with this kernel (since it's just the stock kernel + patch).
- If you do not have an unlocked bootloader there is no need to use this kernel. It's exactly the same as the stock kernel, except with the addition of the SafetyNet patch.
- This will not prevent SafetyNet from tripping for other reasons, like rooting.
- This will not remove the "device corrupted" warning when the phone is turned on or rebooted.
Installation:
- Be prepared with backups or the factory image from Google in case you do something wrong
- Extract kernel from zip file
- Test with command: fastboot boot <filename>
- Flash with command: fastboot flash kernel <filename>
**WARNING**
If flashing this kernel for whatever reason ruins your device, I am not accountable. Use this at your own risk!
The current version will always be attached to this post. Older versions can be found HERE.
(shamelessly copied from Sakete's kernel for the Pixel/Pixel XL, which is no longer being maintained. Thanks for the inspiration, Sakete!)
Wow. I literally just compiled the patched kernel myself just now. What a ninja! While I'll be running my own, thanks for posting this so I didn't have to
For those who already downloaded the kernel, I checked and saw a new mr2.1 update so I've attached an updated kernel.
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For those who already downloaded the kernel, I checked and saw a new mr2.1 update so I've attached an updated kernel.
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Mine is based on that but mr2 and mr2.1 have the same commit so I'm pretty sure it's the same kernel.
Cheers
I'm running a pixel on the nof27b build I don't really want to flash a new kernel would it be possible for you to make the patch a flashable zip
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Mine is based on that but mr2 and mr2.1 have the same commit so I'm pretty sure it's the same kernel.
Cheers
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Good catch, I didn't look that closely before recompiling but they are indeed the same. Oh well! Maybe I'll start going off of tag names instead of branches...
ipeedalil said:
I'm running a pixel on the nof27b build I don't really want to flash a new kernel would it be possible for you to make the patch a flashable zip
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Curious - what difference is there between flashing a kernel using fastboot and using a flashable zip? Isn't the end result the same?
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Curious - what difference is there between flashing a kernel using fastboot and using a flashable zip? Isn't the end result the same?
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I think he's asking for the patch itself to be a flashable zip so he can patch the boot image while it's already compiled and on the phone. Which AFAIK is impossible
We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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I was thinking the same thing, That K is for the Verizon model. good to know.
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We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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I'll look into it tomorrow!
Thank you.
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We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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I believe the kernel would still work.
It looks like the same kernel is used among NHG47K, N2G47J, and N2G47E, so my patched one should work for all of them. I'll update the post.
I'm just curious... So assuming you have the Google version and the oem unlock switch is fuctional and turned on, if you are not intending to root the device why would you unlock the bootloader? I mean you can always unlock it if you want or need to root, right?
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I'm just curious... So assuming you have the Google version and the oem unlock switch is fuctional and turned on, if you are not intending to root the device why would you unlock the bootloader? I mean you can always unlock it if you want or need to root, right?
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In the past I would always root or install a custom ROM on my phone. I would like to with the Pixel, but I want to keep Android Pay since I use it almost daily and I haven't been satisfied with the root solutions I've seen for the Pixel so far. It seems like Google is doing a good job of making it difficult to root, given the three or four different ways to root a Pixel that I've seen. Also, with the advent of monthly security patches I would imagine it is a growing headache to unroot, flash the update, then re-root each month. Google has also done a great job with the stock experience on the Pixel that the reasons I'd root are fairly minor.
It's also just been a habit of mine that the first thing I do with a phone is to unlock the bootloader. I don't like the idea of artificially restricting full access to a device, whether it's software or hardware. Plus I don't have to deal with the silly anti-theft checks that people encounter when they wipe the phone and sell it legitimately (like with Swappa or eBay). There was also a time when Nexus phones would bootloop after receiving an OTA, and if you weren't already unlocked before the OTA hit you'd be stuck with a bricked phone.
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In the past I would always root or install a custom ROM on my phone. I would like to with the Pixel, but I want to keep Android Pay since I use it almost daily and I haven't been satisfied with the root solutions I've seen for the Pixel so far. It seems like Google is doing a good job of making it difficult to root, given the three or four different ways to root a Pixel that I've seen. Also, with the advent of monthly security patches I would imagine it is a growing headache to unroot, flash the update, then re-root each month. Google has also done a great job with the stock experience on the Pixel that the reasons I'd root are fairly minor.
It's also just been a habit of mine that the first thing I do with a phone is to unlock the bootloader. I don't like the idea of artificially restricting full access to a device, whether it's software or hardware. Plus I don't have to deal with the silly anti-theft checks that people encounter when they wipe the phone and sell it legitimately (like with Swappa or eBay). There was also a time when Nexus phones would bootloop after receiving an OTA, and if you weren't already unlocked before the OTA hit you'd be stuck with a bricked phone.
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Ok, fair enough. As I said I was just curious as to the reasoning. But what do you mean by anti-theft checks? I've never sold a phone so I don't really run into anything like that. But if you ever did need to sell it and you could unlock it at a moment notice wouldn't that suffice? I have a Verizon model locked bl so this is all rather moot to my situation, but I do have a 5x that I can unlock if I had to. I like the idea of being able to toggle the oem switch even though I would still remain locked. Something about being able to flash a factory image that I like. Thanks for your reasoning. Not that I agree or disagree with you entirely hehe. Personally, I just like the security of not being able to access my data if it's ever lost or stolen, but I suppose a concerted effort would get in.
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Ok, fair enough. As I said I was just curious as to the reasoning. But what do you mean by anti-theft checks? I've never sold a phone so I don't really run into anything like that. But if you ever did need to sell it and you could unlock it at a moment notice wouldn't that suffice? I have a Verizon model locked bl so this is all rather moot to my situation, but I do have a 5x that I can unlock if I had to. I like the idea of being able to toggle the oem switch even though I would still remain locked. Something about being able to flash a factory image that I like. Thanks for your reasoning. Not that I agree or disagree with you entirely hehe. Personally, I just like the security of not being able to access my data if it's ever lost or stolen, but I suppose a concerted effort would get in.
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If a locked phone is wiped/factory reset then only the Google account that was previously on the phone is allowed to be added back to the device. Tons of people were selling Nexus phones when this change rolled out, and the people that bought the phones were unable to add their accounts even after factory resetting. By unlocking the bootloader it disables this restriction. Yeah, I could do it at the time of selling the phone but there's always a chance I'd forget if I got out of the habit of unlocking the bootloader.
I thought about it a lot - and I've never lost a phone before so I'm OK with having my phone accessible in that regard. If I lose my phone I'll have bigger issues (like 2FA locking me out of my accounts) anyway.
I'm on Verizon, but I intentionally bought the phone from Google just to be able to unlock the bootloader .
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If a locked phone is wiped/factory reset then only the Google account that was previously on the phone is allowed to be added back to the device. Tons of people were selling Nexus phones when this change rolled out, and the people that bought the phones were unable to add their accounts even after factory resetting. By unlocking the bootloader it disables this restriction. Yeah, I could do it at the time of selling the phone but there's always a chance I'd forget if I got out of the habit of unlocking the bootloader.
I thought about it a lot - and I've never lost a phone before so I'm OK with having my phone accessible in that regard. If I lose my phone I'll have bigger issues (like 2FA locking me out of my accounts) anyway.
I'm on Verizon, but I intentionally bought the phone from Google just to be able to unlock the bootloader .
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I've seen the term 2FA bandied about. I presume that's what you're talking about regarding the lockout. So to clarify, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader you can't sell the device? That seems weird. How do you get your account off? If I gave the phone to my wife she can't add her account?
I've never lost a device either although I have smashed one of them disastrously. But now I have a lot more stuff on the device including some personal pics and videos, password files, banking app and of course AP. I actually think my reasoning was more of like there is so much hacking and theft going on that rather than take a chance let me see what it's like being locked like normal people. It's hasn't been bad at all so far as I'm sure you know since you're not really modded either. I get the OTA on another slot and while it's updating I can use the device and a simple reboot updates it. But the bigger reason is that I got a Verizon model (Pixel 32gb) for $240 and not the $650 the Google one would have cost. I'm not sorry although I will revisit that once the Pixel 2 is released. Black Friday is your friend. I would even have bought the Google Pixel for $350 if they had a deal but they didn't. With a fully functioning 5X I just couldn't justify the full price.
Hmm I extracted the file and used fastboot flash kernel kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img and it gives me an error "error: cannot load 'kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img"
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Hmm I extracted the file and used fastboot flash kernel kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img and it gives me an error "error: cannot load 'kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img"
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After extracting the file I just renamed it to sailfish-image and used that in the command fastboot flash kernel sailfish-image. Flashed fine.
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Hello guys this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(BOOTLOODER SHOULD BE UNLOCK)
BIG THANKS FOR MAKING PATCHED BOOT IMg @Jan.Pul
IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
1)Download patched boot.img from link below
2)copy that patched boot.img to your adb folder
3) adb debugging should be on and oem unlock should be on for unlock bootlooder
4)turn off your device and go into fastboot mode by pressing holding volume down and power key
5) check whether fastboot detect your device or not by typing this command on (cmd) FASTBOOT DEVICES
6) if fastboot shows that your device is connected your good to go
7) you need to boot into patched boot.img for this type a command FASTBOOT BOOT patched_boot.img your device will boot automatically
8) download magisk manager apk from google and. Open ur magisk manager and install ad direct method and reboot
If you get bootloop dont worry just press your power key for 5sec it will boot automatically
PATCH BOOT IMG : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cU6qOMiHlGdSAbRtMVgTlHummcGksnt6/view?usp=drivesdk
Guessing this is for the Indian/Chinese version and the bnd-l24 is still sitting on the shelf? And rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
Yes..But Why?
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maximran said:
this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AMY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
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rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
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I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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maximran said:
I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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A Question Sir..
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RaiderWill said:
Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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str8stryk3r said:
Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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It will not work
Interesting!
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Well, I got the OTA in December itself but since I had rooted and installed twrp recovery, I wasn't able to install the update.
Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Before I went ahead an unlocked my bootloader I checked as many sources as I could about if whether or not I'd still be able ota update and the vast majority of the things I read states that what causes the update to fail is not having stock rom and not having stock recovery. The bootloader being unlocked doesn't modify those or any system files so everything should be fine. Unless Huawei changed things specifically for our Honor 7x then there shouldn't be any problems with ota updates. I guess I'll find out when the L24 people start saying they got updates and I don't receive it or can't install it
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Well, that's quite right. I don't know whether Huawei/Honor implemented THAT thing, but yeah reverting back to stock conditions wand applying OTA wouldn't be an issue!
( P.S - I'm stuck here too as I have OTA update since December but haven't reverted to stock to install it. I don't yet know properly about manual installation! )
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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Lmao, and that's why I'm not a developer. I just know having the stock image files is important so that when something gets screwed up got have something to fall back on.
Bringing Up The Rear...
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Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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People like to root and mod their own devices for their own reasons but you're right, a lot of the reasons I modded past devices was because the roms almost always ran better than stock but the 7x imho runs great. Used to be kernels for better battery life and such. I like custom roms because I like to be able to do certain things that stock roms limited as far as customizing goes. A lot of people hate bloat and end up deleting every file on the phone that isn't necessary or to their liking to make the rom as minimal as possible.
But as of now I'm happy with the phone and don't feel the urge to need to root and and a custom recovery. The roms that eventually come would have to offer something worthwhile to flash. But hell, that's subject to change given how I'm feeling that day lol. There's a new AOSP based rom in another thread that sounds promising
RaiderWill said:
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ...
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x..
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I assume that you already know this ... but I should mention it for others that you can run TWRP (if there is a version for one's phone) without flashing it. (I don't have my 7x yet, so I prob really shouldn't be trying to give detailed instructions anyways.) From there, you can make backups of the stock image, stock recovery, etc. (So thx again to this forum for reminding me that I should backup all stock images as soon as I receive my 7x so that MY fingerprints are not all over the backups.)
As to rooting, there ARE at least 2 things that Huawei hasn't provided without root:
Yes, I can make app backups (and/or use the Huawei "easy transfer"... not sure what app that is at the moment) but I'd assume that I won't be able to transfer it to a non-Huawei device. That's why I continue to use Titanium Backup.
USB Mass Storage Enabling (and by extension Selinux Passive mode). I want fast transfer to my desktop, etc.... and I want a drive-letter (yes, there are Win programs which only work with drive letters). Without UMS, I haven't found a way to do that.
hello does anybody know a working method to how to find and download and flash a Stock Rom on my Nokia 7.2 all Tutorials i try so far but did not work well i stuck as well in security patch problem it will not install thats why i want try to find a Stock Rom to flash again with working update
It's pretty easy. Use the NFT tool to flash any full update package and/or flash a full firmware package (HMDSW type).
singhnsk said:
It's pretty easy. Use the NFT tool to flash any full update package and/or flash a full firmware package (HMDSW type).
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Sorry for the necro, and not asking if phone can be rooted as wow, am not surprised how many asked already lol.
I purchased four unlocked Nokia 7.2 which forced updated to 10 upon bootup. I'm trying to deal with two issues, one of which I believe is either the Google phone dialer stopping all other phone dialer recording programs from working with a message "call to short to record". Phone has an oem unlock feature in developer section and I see the bootloader is locked, and all research says OS 10 stops this from getting unlocked. After seeing absolutely zero posts on YouTube about downgrading a Nokia 7.2 to OS 9, and so many scam sites, I figure best option is to ask here.
Can a Nokia 7.2 be flashed down to OS 9 where bootloader can then be unlocked, or are all the posts I'm seeing, just wishful thinking fakes? Thanks.
Lord-Xanthor said:
Sorry for the necro, and not asking if phone can be rooted as wow, am not surprised how many asked already lol.
I purchased four unlocked Nokia 7.2 which forced updated to 10 upon bootup. I'm trying to deal with two issues, one of which I believe is either the Google phone dialer stopping all other phone dialer recording programs from working with a message "call to short to record". Phone has an oem unlock feature in developer section and I see the bootloader is locked, and all research says OS 10 stops this from getting unlocked. After seeing absolutely zero posts on YouTube about downgrading a Nokia 7.2 to OS 9, and so many scam sites, I figure best option is to ask here.
Can a Nokia 7.2 be flashed down to OS 9 where bootloader can then be unlocked, or are all the posts I'm seeing, just wishful thinking fakes? Thanks.
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Hi, essentially the only way to downgrade a locked device is via a Nokia Care point or otherwise tools which can replicate what the Nokia Care tools do. All of these will have a price and unfortunately, no free way exists. You can opt for some remote services.
The tutorials on random websites will help in no way because a locked bootloader will not let you flash any device partitions, thereby disallowing downgrades as well. You cannot load an older OTA package from recovery mode because its date will mismatch.
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Hi, essentially the only way to downgrade a locked device is via a Nokia Care point or otherwise tools which can replicate what the Nokia Care tools do. All of these will have a price and unfortunately, no free way exists. You can opt for some remote services.
The tutorials on random websites will help in no way because a locked bootloader will not let you flash any device partitions, thereby disallowing downgrades as well. You cannot load an older OTA package from recovery mode because its date will mismatch.ii
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I don't mind paying.
singhnsk said:
Hi, essentially the only way to downgrade a locked device is via a Nokia Care point or otherwise tools which can replicate what the Nokia Care tools do. All of these will have a price and unfortunately, no free way exists. You can opt for some remote services.
The tutorials on random websites will help in no way because a locked bootloader will not let you flash any device partitions, thereby disallowing downgrades as well. You cannot load an older OTA package from recovery mode because its date will mismatch.
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I have no trouble paying to get this done. It's finding the place to do it that's in the way. I called metro and tmobile and both said they don't offer this service. Least the ones in California I called. One site offered at $4.50 rollback and $8 to root and I am more wary of that then the free ones lol. Any suggestions to real places? Thanks for getting back.
Lord-Xanthor said:
I don't mind paying.
I have no trouble paying to get this done. It's finding the place to do it that's in the way. I called metro and tmobile and both said they don't offer this service. Least the ones in California I called. One site offered at $4.50 rollback and $8 to root and I am more wary of that then the free ones lol. Any suggestions to real places? Thanks for getting back.
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I will edit this after, if this works so others can try as well. It's not free and is costing me $150 to do. Will update in a few weeks.