Hey guys,
it's me and my german Prime again. I want to share some of my impressions and findings with the ICS upgrade after some days of use.
First lets think again about the issues I had with HC:
Wifi range was worse than other devices (speed was way better btw)
HDMI screen mirroring was cut at the bottom
HDMI audio was only on the left channel
GPS not working at all (barely one single satellite)
Boottimes were horribly long (2 minutes or longer)
Bluetooth + Wifi lead to massive bandwidth drops
Touchpad was kinda crappy (two finger scrolling in mouse mode)
Okay, all these issues weren't really any kind of deal breaker for me, I really enjoyed my Prime since the .33 update (before the .33 the touchscreen really sucked)
I got (as I expected) my update somewhere around 8 PM PST on January 11.
The updated installed without any problems in about 10 minutes.
After ICS booted up I did a full wipe to ensure I have as less problems as possible.
Now lets talk again about the pre-ICS issues:
Wifi: Pre-ICS I was not able to connect to my home network due to the Prime not seeing it all. (Range issue)
This is now fixed with ICS. So in fact this means the Wifi range is better now (at least for me). The connection is also a bit more stable.
Both HDMI errors are gone now. Playing 720p and 1080p mkv files with DTS or AC3 sound works perfectly with Diceplayer.
Not a single issue anymore
Touchpad performance is way better now.
I can actually use the mouse mode now for scrolling etc. Nice!
Boottime almost halfed for me. It boots up way faster now.
Wasn't a big issue before, but nice to see they are making improvements here.
As several member here pointed out, the Bluetooth Wifi issue is not a Prime specific issue.
Every single other device I tested had exactly the same problem. No matter if a Desire, Desire HD, Lumia 800, even my Laptop to some extend...
So this "issue" is a non issue for me.
Now to the GPS part: (Please note that this issue is a non issue for me too, I don't care for my tablets GPS, it's only that I want everything to work).
It's actually too cold outside to test the GPS more than two minutes, but after this time I still can't see a single satellite...
So far I never had any kind of GPS lock with my Prime. I am not sure if it just needs more time...
I will test that later.
I tested the GPS for several hours now (actually I just put the thing outside under clear sky and let it rest there for some hours)
It searched constantly for GPS satellites using the "GPS Status" app and didn't find a single satellite. Not even one.
The only reason why I think I don't have a broken GPS chip/antenna is that I saw one satellite back in HC times...
Since then not a single satellite anymore. (Wifi on/off didn't make any difference btw)
As said above, I don't really care, so this totally faulty GPS (it really just doesn't show anything) is a really good point to return it some time later to get maybe a completely new one
I've found also several non-issue related things:
ICS just looks beautiful
Damn ICS is fast! Everything is just that important bit faster than HC. (not that HC was really slow, but ICS is just noticable faster)
The ASUS taskmanager widget just does not work at all.
It just shuts down as soon as you add it to your homescreen. That's a bit embarassing
Some other facts and information:
Do you know about the "Deactivate app" feature? (Settings->Apps->Click on single app) It's awesome!
You can deactivate (like freeze in titanium) almost every app on the prime. Even the system apps.
I deativated quite a bunch of them (about 20) and the system feels even faster now
I just tested my PS3 controller on the Prime. The native (via USB cable) support works quite well for GTA3 or Shadowgun.
Unfortunately the "Sixaxis" app is not completely compatible yet, touchprofiles won't work at all.
The dev already promised a fixed version for next week
The browser performance is really nice No lagging or skipping
After some fiddling around finally browser sync with chrome works too That's really cool! (I needed to delete chromes bookmark data first in google's dashboard, then resync my local chrome. After that the syncing to the Prime worked perfectly.)
So all in all I am super happy with the ICS update. There's still room for improvement, but ICS really made my Prime the device it should have been since the beginning.
My experience with my (DE SKU) Prime is almost the same. Though I had no WiFi issues prior to ICS.
I've only had mine since monday, so I only had 3 days to play with HC before ICS. But even I feel the difference. Everything is just smoother and more responsive. Especially the web browser. And it will actually sync your Chrome bookmarks now. Yay!
I'm exceptionally happy with my device. I bought it to keep me entertained with movies and games during my 2 hours of commuting every day. So far it's been too much fun to play with to get any gaming or movie watching done.
And I'm not sure if it's because my battery is being broken in, but I feel my battery life has gone up since ICS also.
But yes, Asus Taskmanager seems to be broken for me also. Chrashes as soon as it starts. That's the only negative thing I've seen since the ICS upgrade.
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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well, my prime actually picked up my university's wifi network and had a pretty good signal while my galaxy s2 struggled to even connect. at home, the prime is just a tad slower than my sgs2 when doing speedtests.
Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
I know you asked for the GS2 or the TF101 but since I have neither of those I compared it to my HTC Wildfire which it beat quite comfortably.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
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That sounds great! I know the SGS2 isn't known for the best wifi, but it is good enough to get a connection where I normaly would use the prime. My TF101 is a little bit better than the SGS2. If the Prime is anywhere between those two, I will buy one! You convinced me
It doesn't release here in Norway untill the 30th, but I will get one then. We are only getting the Champagne gold one, originally I wanted the Amethyst more. Any of you got any impressions on the colors? What do you think of the champagne one?
Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
Diamondback said:
Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
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I have just been doing some WiFi tests with my HTC Desire HD (running Virtuous Affinity) and Asus Transformer Prime and this is what I'm not happy about
I have a 50MB connection and the desktop with a direct connection is getting 49Mbps so it is a true 50Mbps connection
Now for tests sitting right next to the router which is an N-series router
On my laptop I'm getting 34Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 18Mbps
On the Prime I'm getting 11Mbps
Now for outside in the garden going through 2 walls about 20ft away
On my laptop I'm getting 12Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 6Mbps
On my Prime I'm getting 1Mbps!
I have done this several times and the figures are consistent - this shows my Prime to be under performing compared to my other devices. I would expect the Prime to perform better than the Desire HD but it doesn't.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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ToneyEricsson said:
I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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My tests were through brick house walls. Thinking about it its quite amazing that the old Asus 1000HE netbook I have running Windows 7 which I upgraded it with has better WiFi than my Asus Transformer Prime...
I got the Prime for a similar use as the 1000HE for travelling abroad where I connect to loads of WiFi networks. With that low WiFi performance on the Prime I can see I'm going to have problems.
I'm debating to send it back and waiting for the newer Prime which maybe an improvement...
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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I haven't tried a factory reset I will try it and see what happens.
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I'd deffinatly try a factory reset if I was you, as a last resort.. Brick/drywall aside. 11Mbps right next to the router is not right unless you got some serious interference going on.
Just trying a factory reset from settings. Would that be the only reset method to reset or is there some other method with a pin?
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I see just doing the data wipe from settings but I see after booting up ICS is showing 4.0.3 as current installed Android version so by the looks its only wiping user data and apps.
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Just bought one, totally unimpressed with it, tried to airplay from ipad on ios7, just get audio
Try it on my galaxy note 3, won't play showbox through it
Anyone else bought one?
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Just bought one, totally unimpressed with it, tried to airplay from ipad on ios7, just get audio
Try it on my galaxy note 3, won't play showbox through it
Anyone else bought one?
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I just got one last week, and am a little more impressed with it than you are. Tried it last night with my Nexus7 (2012), and had it quite happily streaming a movie onto the TV via both its own iPush app and also various DLNA apps (Skifka, MediaHouse etc). Setting it up was reasonably easy compared to some reports I've read online about it, although the interface was a little clunky and took a while. Plus of course the written documentation shipped with the device is awful, although ironically the on-screen stuff that the iPush actually displays on the TV when you connect it is much clearer.
So far I only see a couple of negatives. The biggest one is that its built-in WiFi hotspot seems to have a fixed password and always be broadcast (even when it's connected to another device/router), which I would say is a fairly major security hole as it could let someone into the network as a back door. Secondly when I tried it with my HTX 8X (WinPhone 8) it was visible as a renderer to MyMediaHub when the phone was connected directly to the iPush's hotspot, but it didn't seem to pick it up when connected via another hotspot (my Ravpower WD-01 filehub) even though my N7 happily did so in the same scenario. But that second one could just as easily be a glitch with the HTC.
But I have read elsewhere of several people having issues with iOS and Airplay, which I think were also mentioned in the Amazon sales blurb when I got mine (being on Android I didn't take too much notice as it doesn't apply to me). Basically that there wasn't video support for Airplay due to license/copyright issues or something, but beyond that maybe a little Google-Fu could turn something up?
Anyway there seem to be a few firmware updates around which may (I hope) address the wifi password concern. But that's tonight's little project.
I have this tablet, a samsung galaxy s4 and my girlfriend had an ipad 4.
Basically, compared to my s4 and the ipad 4, webpages all load slower, when i update apps via google play store, they update a lot slower than my s4 updates them, also i play clash of clans, no matter wyhere i am in the flat with my s4 or my girlfriends ipad i never loose a connection to the game, on my tablet i regularly loose connection with the clash of clans server and it will restart and i may loose the odd game because it lost connection half way through a battle etc..
This is all using the same wifi at the same distances etc..
I have turned off wifi optimisation as this made the wifi even worse on my tablet, even though the name suggests that it should make it better lol
Any ideas, or is this trablets wifi just not as good?
James
WiFi Optimization doesn't help with performance of it, it actually improved battery life, just like the description of it says right below the WiFi Optimization text lol
And, it works just like my mom's iPad 3. I can get sometimes even higher download speeds than a desktop connected to the same network.
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not agree....
In My opinion, XTZ has a great wifi performance, im running 4.2.2 with no wifi tweaks of any kind... The wifi speed test and strenght quality signal are awesome, as good at home as linked in other wifi spots.
Here are the speed test results i have made right now during this post writing theyre both downloading and uploading, just have to say im quite satisfied with the xtz wifi performance indeed. No doubt that ipads software solution implementation are, as allways, more and better optimized in their products. Theres the choice ppl have to do when decide between macs or droids...
I'm not sure if people have heard of Speedify, but it's a service that bonds two or more networks together for better reliability or faster speeds. I use it all the time on my desktop to bond my home internet and tether my phone while gaming so i have am unbreakable connection (if one internet goes down or slows down, the next fastest takes over seemlessly).
Recently they released an android version that uses WiFi and cell data, but due to a bug in the Android 6.0 Adreno 4XX driver, the app crashes on my Nexus 6P. I do have a note 3 with cm12.1 that i was able to try it on, however.
I absolutely love the concept, seeing how i can be walking on campus, on a hangouts call and the switching between WiFi and cell networks ends the call. This would fix that, and many other issues i have (though for some reason they assume all my WiFi is unlimited, wish i could set WiFi to secondary connection, but i digress).
Unfortunately, from what i experienced on the note 3, Speedify for Android has a long way to go. While browsing the internet with Speedify connected, Speedify used twice as much battery as the screen. It absolutely drained my battery like nothing I've seen before. At one point Speedify crashed and when i went to open it again it just got stuck on the loading screen and would never start up again, even after a reboot, reinstall, etc.
I'd like to hear other's experiences with Speedify for Android as well. I love the idea and use it all the time on my desktop or laptop (granted there is a max speed of ~70-90 Mbps), and i really hope Qualcomm fixes the Adreno driver bug so i can try it on my Nexus 6P. I also hope that Speedify makes the app more battery friendly so it could be used full time (and also allow WiFi to be secondary / backup and have usage limits).
I've had the G8X since last November and am currently using it without the dual screen case. I've started using game streaming from my local Xbox to my phone which I clip to an Xbox controller. This feature has been in closed beta for a while but is now available to anyone who installs the Xbox Beta app from the Play Store. The xCloud streaming service has gotten most of the attention but I find the local streaming far more attractive. It doesn't have any limits on which games work and much lower latency. Unfortunately, the games stutter all the time on the G8X. I think I have definitely determined that the phone is the issue and am looking for advice on any possible solution. It seems ridiculous to replace a phone over this. Here are the details of my troubleshooting:
I am using 5ghz Wi-Fi near a Unifi UAP-AC-PRO access point. My phone connects at 866mbps. iperf throughput to a wired LAN device is fast. I had a streaming session on my phone while running a ping from my Desktop to my phone. The ping latency was 1-5ms most of the time. Anytime the game stream would hitch, I looked at the ping on my desktop and the issues corresponded to latency spikes ranging from 70-150ms. I immediately assumed issues with the Wi-Fi so I did spectrum scans and moved to different frequencies to no avail. I tweaked a few settings and sat directly underneath the access point. I noticed I can force a latency spike by opening the Wi-Fi settings which starts scanning for nearby APs. The normal latency spikes are a few minutes apart but I can repeatedly force them by opening this screen. This makes me suspect that they are caused by background scanning for Wi-Fi. I turned off Google location history and services that use Wi-Fi and the frequency of latency spikes decreased. In fact, after this change I noticed that they were exactly 5 minutes apart. I tried checking build.prop to see if there was a scan interval configured but without root I could not even read it.
The smoking gun is basically that I dusted off an old LG V40 and it's flawless. No issues with local game streaming at all and I have used it for probably 5 hours so far. I would like to get my G8X working if possible. It seems like a software or driver but for AP scanning to cause these kinds of latency spikes (if that is indeed the root cause).
I don't expect many people with this exact phone to have tried Xbox game streaming but with other similar services like Steam Link and even Stadia from the cloud I would hope that this symptom may have presented for others. Speaking of Steam Link I also gave that a whirl and it was garbage on the G8X but smooth on the V40.
I fixed this by buying a Sony Xperia 1 II
Mistar Muffin said:
I fixed this by buying a Sony Xperia 1 II
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So it a problem with LG ? Or u got a defective piece
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So it a problem with LG ? Or u got a defective piece
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I don't have another G8X to test but it feels like a software issue.