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So I've had the phone for less than a week. I've performed the ioroot procedure and installed twrp. Other than that, the phone is stock right now - 10B. I've performed a backup.
My phone is offering to install 11C. I'd like to update to that version, but at a glance it seems like there may be issues if I ever need to downgrade, or.. I may lose root.
So, for our specific phone, the VS985 model, what is the best way to upgrade to the latest stock ROM and keep root / the ability to downgrade?
Sorry for the noob question, but I'm new to the phone and am seeing some conflicting information, probably due to variances between different versions of the phone. I just want to do this right the first time and avoid having to ask more dumb questions
Look for the thread by bweN diorD in either General or Q&A that starts with [REF] and has img or images in the title.
Use the links in that thread to flash the 12b modem and system images, using autoprime's flash2Modem and flash2System zips (bweN links to that thread).
Your choice on whether you also want to flash the 12b boot image. I did flash the 11c boot, didn't bother with 12b.
After flashing the new images, anything you've tweaked in /system has to be re-nudged -- freezing verizon bloat, freezing "System updates..." (or renaming the /system/app LGDMSClient files), reinstalling the hotspot mod (if you need it). It's a pretty painless evolution.
(Definitely freeze System updates.... Once you've got twrp, if you try to install an OTA directly you'll get stuck in a boot-to-recovery problem. Autoprime has a flashable zip that wipes out the files causing the boot-to-recovery, I keep a copy of that zip loaded on my phone's user volume, but it's simpler to just not try to install an OTA.)
Wow. Okay. Thanks a lot. This is super helpful. I'm downloading as we speak. I hope you don't mind a followup question...
My understanding is that it is safer to avoid flashing the boot image because changes to the bootloader could affect root or the ability to roll back. Is there a reason you bothered flashing 11C?
For anyone else, the thread mentioned is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
NegativeOne said:
Wow. Okay. Thanks a lot. This is super helpful. I'm downloading as we speak. I hope you don't mind a followup question...
My understanding is that it is safer to avoid flashing the boot image because changes to the bootloader could affect root or the ability to roll back. Is there a reason you bothered flashing 11C?
For anyone else, the thread mentioned is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
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There is no downside to flashing it at this point, but I haven't seen proof there is any benefit either. I'm still on 10b running L ROMs no problem, so I don't see any point in updating anything but the modem.
Sent from my G3, rockin Illusion
Which rom are you using?
Look down lol
Sent from my G3, rockin Illusion
You can root 10B and tell supersu to maintain root and take all the OTAs and still keep root. I did that so that I'd have VoLTE and I could take an OTA in the future without issue if it was shown root would survive. Your choice I guess, but we know root survives all the way to 12B so why not go the stock route to ensure you are fully updated? Just my thoughts anyway.
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You can root 10B and tell supersu to maintain root and take all the OTAs and still keep root. I did that so that I'd have VoLTE and I could take an OTA in the future without issue if it was shown root would survive. Your choice I guess, but we know root survives all the way to 12B so why not go the stock route to ensure you are fully updated? Just my thoughts anyway.
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im running android version 5.0.2, stock is whats not "fully updated" lol
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im running android version 5.0.2, stock is whats not "fully updated" lol
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
I tried 5.0.x for a few days but the negatives weren't worth it to me. I am fully updated at 12B as I can still use the G3 with the stock goodies that were added by LG and not cripple the device by putting AOSP on it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the look of AOSP, but one of the major reasons I got this phone was for the camera and without the 5.0.x roms including LG camera app with them, it's a no go for me. Google camera app just doesn't do it and laser focus is gone so pics are crap in my opinion.
Instead I use g3 tweaks and Nova to make my phone look more like AOSP. I'll wait for the devs to get ahold of 5.0.x for the g3 so we can still keep the g3 goodies before I update any further.
So, I'd say 12B is as fully updated as there is at this point. Just my opinion though.
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
I tried 5.0.x for a few days but the negatives weren't worth it to me. I am fully updated at 12B as I can still use the G3 with the stock goodies that were added by LG and not cripple the device by putting AOSP on it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the look of AOSP, but one of the major reasons I got this phone was for the camera and without the 5.0.x roms including LG camera app with them, it's a no go for me. Google camera app just doesn't do it and laser focus is gone so pics are crap in my opinion.
Instead I use g3 tweaks and Nova to make my phone look more like AOSP. I'll wait for the devs to get ahold of 5.0.x for the g3 so we can still keep the g3 goodies before I update any further.
So, I'd say 12B is as fully updated as there is at this point. Just my opinion though.
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the camera doesnt stand up to stock, no doubt, but thats the only thing i wish could be better. the rest of that stuff i dont use.
it all depends on what you want/use/need.
i prefer custom roms the majority of the time.
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the camera doesnt stand up to stock, no doubt, but thats the only thing i wish could be better. the rest of that stuff i dont use.
it all depends on what you want/use/need.
i prefer custom roms the majority of the time.
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You're right for sure. It's all personal preference. I figure if the only thing that looks different from stock is the settings menu and not having the quick settings tiles, I'm close enough that I'm not bothered by all the LG colors and added stuff.
I'm waiting for the camera app to get ported then I'm all in on a custom 5.0.x rom. That may be a while, but I can wait.
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
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For anyone reading this, I just wanted to let them know that there is a ported version of Quick Remote that works under AOSP / CM including Lollipop. I think it's in the non-variant G3 sections.
Sent from my VK810 4G
Thank you for this thread. Honestly this should be Pinned, I am an extremely saavy/experienced Android user and XDA forum member, and I could not believe how long it took me to find this sort of info for such a popular phone.
This is my first LG phone, and I'm having to learn all the LG and Gseries specific "stuff". The info above was invaluable. :good:
So I bought a really nice G3, and I'm wondering what I should do first? Should I check for something prior to activating? Is root hard with Verizon variation? Any pointers?
Thanks
What build of the official LG ROM is it on? Do you want root?
If you do want root, and not on 35B, don't take any OTAs. If 35B, you can root using Kingroot. No one knows how to get TWRP working when rooting from 35B, though. If on 35B and you want TWRP, use the TOT method to downgrade to 10B, then root using the Stump app, use TWRP Manager to put TWRP on, then flash whatever ROM you want.
If it's not on 35B, use either the TOT or KDZ method (I prefer KDZ method) to downgrade to 10B, then root and put TWRP on the same way as above.
Thanks man. It'll be here Friday, noob alert. What is the 35b ( and other variants I've seen for that matter ) pertaining to? Where can I find it? Assuming maybe a build number.
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Thanks man. It'll be here Friday, noob alert. What is the 35b ( and other variants I've seen for that matter ) pertaining to? Where can I find it? Assuming maybe a build number.
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It's how LG designates their ROM builds. On the VS985 G3, 10B, 11C (I think it was) and 12B were all KitKat. 23C and 24B were Lollipop 5.0.1. 35B is 5.1.1.
You can find that information on any Android phone in Settings / About phone / Software info. If you flash a custom ROM the ROM developer can make it say anything they want but if the ROM is LG ROM based, it will usually still keep the proper build #.
The build numbers differ on different LG devices. I did notice that another newer device (G4?) starting on 5.1.1 was build 10B.
Besides the two numbers and letter, there's also numbers after. For example, the TOT method uses 10B_03. We don't have copies of a 10B_03 KDZ but we do have 10B_01. What that means is that using the KDZ method, that we can't take OTAs from 10B_01 to upgrade the phone, because 10B_03 was the actual officially released ROM. Doesn't change anything else, though, in this case.
Other manufacturers use their own coding system.
You're welcome.
Edit: where to find it depends on what you want to do with it. If your phone arrives with an official stock ROM, and if it's not already on 35B, and you use it with a Verizon SIM, then you'll be offered OTAs to eventually reach 35B. If you're looking for the 35B KDZ to make your phone official, unrooted completely stock on the latest release, you'll have to Google for a link to the 35B KDZ. I know there's links in some threads on here. I might have a copy on my Android File Host section too - I forget what I have on there since I mostly use it for my tablet.
If you really need it I can get more specific. You didn't answer whether you want to be rooted and/or have custom recovery. If you do, then you don't need the 35B KDZ. You need the 10B TOT (just a different format official file from LG for their ROM) and I forgot to mention you also need the new 35B DLL to use with the 10B TOT because 35B keeps you from downgrading except using that method. You can find the .DLL in @holiealmunus ' thread about 35B in General.
After rooting and putting TWRP on you can just flash a 35B based ROM if that's what you want to do with it.
Hey thanks man. Appreciate it. I think I'll root it for now , so I can run well root required apps etc
mroneeyedboh said:
Hey thanks man. Appreciate it. I think I'll root it for now , so I can run well root required apps etc
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You're welcome!
Reasons to downgrade to 10B as opposed to any other build: 10B was the last release that the Stump app works on to root (in brute force mode), and it's easy to put TWRP on (with TWRP Manager).
Good deal I'll report back this weekend
Enjoy your new/used G3. I got mine used a few months ago. If your battery life seems poor then check the date stamped on the battery. If its over a year old replace.
What's a good replacement. I bumped around here and it seems like aftermarket is it
I got a TQTHL battery off eBay. It claims 4500mah but its certainly not. I think its somewhere around 3500-4000 since I get similar battery life to my old Droid Turbo 4-5 hours of screen time with 24-36 hours of uptime. My used stock battery didn't even get 3 hours or last all day. YMMV
Hey guys, the phone is a 35b. Says software vs98535b.
I can root, right? I'm kinda confused...
Thats all Im after. The phone is for my wife, so I just want root so I can use root apps
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Hey guys, the phone is a 35b. Says software vs98535b.
I can root, right? I'm kinda confused...
Thats all Im after. The phone is for my wife, so I just want root so I can use root apps
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Yes, with Kingroot.
Thanks!
Got it. I also removed kingroot and the like and replaced it with superuser app.
Thanks
Question, guys... Should I update to MM?
Is the 5.1.1 buggy or does it present bad battery life? I noticed the screen would get 100% bright by itself, even though I had it at 50%...
mroneeyedboh said:
Question, guys... Should I update to MM?
Is the 5.1.1 buggy or does it present bad battery life? I noticed the screen would get 100% bright by itself, even though I had it at 50%...
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The auto brightness issue on 35B is the only issue I've had. Other than that it was a vast improvement over previous official releases. To fix it, it was recommended to me to use Lux Lite in the Play Store. Now I use it on the phone and my tablet, it works very well and is very configurable.
You're talking apples and oranges regarding official LG stock (rooted) ROM versus CyanogenMod, the latter being the only way of putting Marshmallow on this phone since LG hasn't released it yet but since they did for the D855 I think they will for the other G3s.
Try it if you like but I don't bother flashing CM any more. Personally I find that CM builds create more problems than they solve.
Of course, I'm running @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM which spoils me even more on an LG-based ROM.
Thanks once again. I think I'll leave it as is. She doesn't really know much about roms and such, so I'd be flashing or fixing things here and there.
Thanks again
Edit : Deleted due to roirraW "edor" ehT statement (wich is very accurate for what it seems) that the 35B cant work with these methods , guess I just had luck
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Well mine one is used too (Great deal to finally retire the almighty s2 i9100...) it came with the 35B, use this apk to flash the twrp on your device and if it worked , VOILA ... The next thing you should do is to either debloat the phone or flash a stock based custom rom (Personal Favorite is skydragon).
PD: This worked for me Im just sharing how it went , good luck
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That hasn't been updated for 35B, it's for 23C only. It worked for you? The Play Store notes even says "Don't flash this if you are on 5.1.1 (vs985 v35a or 35b)" and the author's thread doesn't mention a version for 35B.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
That hasn't been updated for 35B, it's for 23C only. It worked for you? The Play Store notes even says "Don't flash this if you are on 5.1.1 (vs985 v35a or 35b)" and the author's thread doesn't mention a version for 35B.
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Thats really strange it all was just a click and done ...
!!! PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE POST BEFORE PROCEEDING !!!
!!! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR WHILE INSTALLING/USING THIS !!!
This is a stock VS98547A firmware in flashable format. Big thanks to @roirraW "edor" ehT for getting us the 47A partitions!
FAQ:
Why isn't this debloated?
That wasn't the goal. I would HIGHLY recommend disabling OTA and all Verizon apps/services, however, as they are known to report your rooted status. There are plenty of threads here on xda describing this. You have been warned. The goal here was to distribute a full 47A base for all to do with as they please, nothing more.
Will you be updating this?
Unless I goofed and missed something on the initial upload, no.
What exactly has been modified?
I set the install up with a systemless SuperSU 2.68 beta, busybox, and removed a few LG Security checks. That's it.
Can I take an OTA with this installed?
Again, you should NOT take an OTA with this.
What bootstack should I use with this?
You should be on the 35B bootstack (located HERE). Without going into great detail, the 47A modem won't work without the corresponding 47A secondary bootloader (sbl1). Unfortunately, the 47A sbl1 doesn't play nice with the last bump-exploitable Android bootloader (aboot) we have from 12b. If you use that pairing, you'll put your device into 9008 bulk mode. So, that door is closed for now if you want a custom recovery or kernel. You are welcome to try using some of the other supporting partitions (dbi, factory, rpm, tz) to see if there are any improvements, etc. Just remember to stay away from modem and sbl1. Everything seems to work fine with the 35B set, but we'll find out one way or another as more people use this. I will look into a way to get the 47A modem working when I have time.
Will you be actively supporting this?
As this is a stock firmware package, any issues you have while using it are in LG/Google/Verizon's code. As such, I will not be supporting this. XDA has a Q&A section for general help.
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Installing:
Make sure you have a backup in case anything goes wrong.
If you aren't already using it, flash the 35B bootstack zip (link above).
Wipe data & cache in TWRP (do not wipe internal storage unless you have the install zip on an external sdcard)
Flash the VS98547A FW zip below. DO NOT swipe the prompt in TWRP to install SuperSU. TWRP doesn't see SuperSU because it isn't in system, but it's still rooted. Also, the phone will reboot twice after flashing. This is a normal part of the systemless SuperSU install.
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Downloads:
Firmware:
VS98547A Firmware
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Devs: Feel free to use any/all of this. There's no need to ask for permission, but you must give credit in your OP.
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VS985 debloat scripts
Here's a link to my VS985 debloat scripts post for both the VS985 and VK810. My debloat zips have been updated and will work with both devices up to 46A for the VS985.
NEW: @@joshua70448 was kind enough to make an online tool to automate making custom debloat zips according to what a user selects to debloat:
joshua70448 said:
I put together an online tool that lets you pick exactly which files to remove in a debloat script and builds the flashable ZIP and MD5 files for you (as well as a full list of deleted files).
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Link to his online tool and to his original thread to thank in my thread I link to above.
These should work for 47A or any future stock ROM release as well. If they added any new bloat or changed the location of any bloat it would work for everything but what they changed.
The only things I've done to the debloat scripts every time a new stock ROM is released is added any new locations and unnecessary apps.
@RoxanaSchram linked a flashable zip of a standalone version of Verizon Visual Voicemail in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65417925&postcount=654
Here's a link to the non-flashable 46A Verizon Visual Voicemail app that the "All" and "Verizon" debloat scripts remove: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=28519. You'll have to extract it (I use ZArchiver in the Play Store), move the folder to system/priv-app and give the apk the same permissions that other APKs in other subfolders of priv-app have.
Most anything else you should be able to find in the Play Store.
Y'all are truly great! I'm going to flash the hell out of this soon.
Thank you for all of your work!
Thanx, For me, you said I was a little bit difficult???. actually, 12b bootstack +24b modem, can run well.
VS985 USER
Thanks brot you are awesome... My question i can install xposed whit this rom
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
First! ☺
I probably will post debloat zips here sometime. Similar to my ones for the VK810.4G LG G Pad 8.3 I have, and have linked to in my signature below. They will partially work in the meantime, just some apps are in different places on the G3 so some won't get debloated.
My No OTA zip should definitely work though.
I'll post direct links when I'm ready.
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Downloading the ROM right now.. Will flash..will Make a backup and then i will try debloat zip from Jasmine thread.
What u say.. Is it worth to try?
Any precautions to be made?
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minhas729 said:
Downloading the ROM right now.. Will flash..will Make a backup and then i will try debloat zip from Jasmine thread.
What u say.. Is it worth to try?
Any precautions to be made?
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Same precautions as usual, backup. It should work fine - mine just debloat more, but I got started by modifying @hsbadr 's with his permission. Debloating is just deleting files.
makysssdroid said:
Thanks brot you are awesome... My question i can install xposed whit this rom
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You can try. Instructions in the Xposed thread.
Yeahhh but in say to use d855 xposed support or install xposed zip only
Installed it. Running smooth
Thanks everyone for contributions and @xdabbebs for making it possible
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makysssdroid said:
Yeahhh but in say to use d855 xposed support or install xposed zip only
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I don't understand what you're asking but they should be able to answer in the Xposed thread.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't understand what you're asking but they should be able to answer in the Xposed thread.
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What is being asked is if the D855 Xposed support zip needs to be flashed so Xposed would work on 46A.
Will this rom remove twrp?
Advanced Calling
Anyone know if advanced calling/HD voice works with the 35B modem on this ROM, or do we need to get the 46A modem working for that? Do we need to disable it to get any call audio like we did in 35B with the 24B modem?
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What is being asked is if the D855 Xposed support zip needs to be flashed so Xposed would work on 46A.
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Okay, thanks!
No idea, haven't tried yet. Make a TWRP backup, try without and see what happens. If broke, restore backup and try with it.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Same precautions as usual, backup. It should work fine - mine just debloat more, but I got started by modifying @hsbadr 's with his permission. Debloating is just deleting files.
You can try. Instructions in the Xposed thread.
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Tried
Moderate debloat zip from @hsbadr worked just fine
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Moreover just noticed true silent mode is back in official MM by vzw. (lower the volume to vib and then true silent)
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Do I lose root? Any bugs? Twrp? Amazing job doing this ?
Juancho10 said:
Do I lose root? Any bugs? Twrp? Amazing job doing this
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No. No. No.
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rippedwarrior69 said:
Will this rom remove twrp?
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No.
Awesome can't wait to check this out.
Kickin it on my VS985
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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10b is the original stock firmware.
dadrumgod said:
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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Hi!
There wasn't any Jellybean available for this phone. For example, 10B for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet was Jellybean. You can find the correct 10B KDZ and TOT in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section. If the filename has VS985 in it, it's likely the correct one.
Also please in the future post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a mod to move this thread there. Thanks!
That's exactly what I thought, I didn't think this phone was even this old but I have the files right here saying vs985 and 4.2.2 jellybean lol but it has to be a mistake. I appreciate your reply sorry about that after these years I still get lost and mixed up here sometimes , and this can be deleted now I got the right answer , thanks again
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi!
There wasn't any Jellybean available for this phone. For example, 10B for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet was Jellybean. You can find the correct 10B KDZ and TOT in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section. If the filename has VS985 in it, it's likely the correct one.
Also please in the future post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a mod to move this thread there. Thanks!
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I'm just now realizing I'm not seeing where to delete a post, does it take a mod to do that? Just curious
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dadrumgod said:
That's exactly what I thought, I didn't think this phone was even this old but I have the files right here saying vs985 and 4.2.2 jellybean lol but it has to be a mistake. I appreciate your reply sorry about that after these years I still get lost and mixed up here sometimes , and this can be deleted now I got the right answer , thanks again
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Hopefully it's the right file. You're welcome, no problem!
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I'm just now realizing I'm not seeing where to delete a post, does it take a mod to do that? Just curious
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You have to ask a mod to delete it. I already asked them to move it to Q&A - no reason to delete the thread.
dadrumgod said:
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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Mine is on VS98510B Android Version 4.4.2, came like that, but about to change that though as soon as I read up enough and figure out which is best way to go about custom rom install, (currently stock 10B rooted/bumped, w/twrp 3.0/ few mods)
Mike
11fan said:
Mine is on VS98510B Android Version 4.4.2, came like that, but about to change that though as soon as I read up enough and figure out which is best way to go about custom rom install, (currently stock 10B rooted/bumped, w/twrp 3.0/ few mods)
Mike
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Well I can tell how just about every Rom and mod runs on this phone and anything that you need to know I'm sure I've come across the issue at some point. I've tried everything I could find from your stock version to the latest mm stock and custom roms. A good hint I can give you is make sure you flash the right bootstack before jumping between android versions or you could wind up with a Qualcomm 9008 super brick where the real fun begins lol But it's very easy with this phone and it still blows my G4 outta the water so bad it's pathetic. I had 2 G4's and traded one fire this G3
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dadrumgod said:
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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I just ran across that same file looking through my G3 files, I'm not sure which thread I got links from, but most likely came from afh in someones collection of G3 files. name of the file is "8._ VS98510B_01.KDZ-4.2.2-Jellybean-MD5_hash_inside-(not_official" and it's 1.47 GB in size, I expect it was just named incorrectly
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I just ran across that same file looking through my G3 files, I'm not sure which thread I got links from, but most likely came from afh in someones collection of G3 files. name of the file is "8._ VS98510B_01.KDZ-4.2.2-Jellybean-MD5_hash_inside-(not_official" and it's 1.47 GB in size, I expect it was just named incorrectly
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DOH ME! I'm the culprit. Sorry about that. As soon as I saw the file name you put I knew it was mine. I'll fix that. LOL! I can't believe I did that, and of course I'm sure the reason I did that was my confusion between my tablet 10B and this phone's 10B. SIGH! Thanks for posting that and I'll correct that now!
Thanks @dadrumgod too for starting this thread which lead to me knowing that I had named the files wrongly.
Lol, its all good, figured it was just a mistake! However I did just d/l the 10B.kdz from autoprime via chainfire and it was 1.51 GB in size, slightly different, any concern for that? Thanks for all your help! Past present and future lol
Mike
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11fan said:
Lol, its all good, figured it was just a mistake! However I did just d/l the 10B.kdz from autoprime via chainfire and it was 1.51 GB in size, slightly different, any concern for that? Thanks for all your help! Past present and future lol
Mike
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The KDZs and TOTs in my Android File Host section are in 7-Zip archives that you have to extract to use (and are therefore compressed).
I do that since it seems so few people check MD5 hashes, plus TOTs aren't already compressed like KDZs are, so you reasonably know that when you extract an archive that the file inside it is correct and intact.
In other words, did you compare sizes with the 7-Zip archive you downloaded or the KDZ you extracted from it?
In the end I believe the TOT and KDZ-flashing software checks the file to make sure it's both okay and is for the device you have connected, anyway.
You're welcome!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
DOH ME! I'm the culprit. Sorry about that. As soon as I saw the file name you put I knew it was mine. I'll fix that. LOL! I can't believe I did that, and of course I'm sure the reason I did that was my confusion between my tablet 10B and this phone's 10B. SIGH! Thanks for posting that and I'll correct that now!
Thanks @dadrumgod too for starting this thread which lead to me knowing that I had named the files wrongly.
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Yea I was kinda curious about that one, but at least ya know huh, I've made quite a few Oops's myself lol.. But I'm still shocked at how much better the older roms are in alot of ways and LG did pretty good with kk apparently. But I have a gpad 10.1 vk700 and was surprised the lil difference between kk and LP and changed back and forth a good bit quite a few times mixing up what I was running... I should warranty that thing and play with it again, but no recovery so too limited.. Wah Wah Wah lol
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Yea I was kinda curious about that one, but at least ya know huh, I've made quite a few Oops's myself lol.. But I'm still shocked at how much better the older roms are in alot of ways and LG did pretty good with kk apparently. But I have a gpad 10.1 vk700 and was surprised the lil difference between kk and LP and changed back and forth a good bit quite a few times mixing up what I was running... I should warranty that thing and play with it again, but no recovery so too limited.. Wah Wah Wah lol
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Hehe. I'm lucky there was at least an exploit and TWRP for the G Pad 8.3 VK810 variant, and that some developers made an updated TWRP for it later.
I hope when/if it comes time for me to get a new tablet that I can find one that's powerful enough yet have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
I really hope something changes so that with some future Android version that there's another way of handling the optimization of apps so that every time you take an OTA or factory reset you don't have to wait an extra 10-20 minutes. Call me paranoid, but also what if you factory reset and then need to use the phone in an emergency? That long a wait is unacceptable.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hehe. I'm lucky there was at least an exploit and TWRP for the G Pad 8.3 VK810 variant, and that some developers made an updated TWRP for it later.
I hope when/if it comes time for me to get a new tablet that I can find one that's powerful enough yet have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
I really hope something changes so that with some future Android version that there's another way of handling the optimization of apps so that every time you take an OTA or factory reset you don't have to wait an extra 10-20 minutes. Call me paranoid, but also what if you factory reset and then need to use the phone in an emergency? That long a wait is unacceptable.
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Oh there's even a bumped twrp for the gpad 10.1 v700, mine is the vk700 with LTE but it's the same tab. Funny part is I never use the mobile data and I'm stuck with the bill cuz I didn't know better at the time lol I could possibly bump a twrp for it myself but that's a lil beyond my expertise atm. I also wish I'd have known better when I got my g4 or I wouldn't have went through hell and be stuck with a hopelessly locked non developed device with only root and no real fun. I guess ya gotta start learning somewhere huh
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Oh there's even a bumped twrp for the gpad 10.1 v700, mine is the vk700 with LTE but it's the same tab. Funny part is I never use the mobile data and I'm stuck with the bill cuz I didn't know better at the time lol I could possibly bump a twrp for it myself but that's a lil beyond my expertise atm. I also wish I'd have known better when I got my g4 or I wouldn't have went through hell and be stuck with a hopelessly locked non developed device with only root and no real fun. I guess ya gotta start learning somewhere huh
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It drives me crazy all these variants of the different devices. That's one thing I definitely like about Nexus, but I've never owned one. I was hoping the HTC 10 would be universal too but it doesn't look to be that way since it says on their website that for Sprint and Verizon you need different hardware (without any further clarification of availability/etc when I looked last week - just said soon). One of the selling points they gave for buying the HTC 10 directly from them is if you want to change carriers, you can just change SIM cards, but then the note about Sprint and Verizon - sounds like a different variant.
I do use Mobile Data on my tablet all the time. Undecided if I'll keep the mobile data plan after the contract is up in December. I do like not running my phone battery down as much since I use my tablet whenever possible for music, GPS, XDA, Facebook etc.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
The KDZs and TOTs in my Android File Host section are in 7-Zip archives that you have to extract to use (and are therefore compressed).
I do that since it seems so few people check MD5 hashes, plus TOTs aren't already compressed like KDZs are, so you reasonably know that when you extract an archive that the file inside it is correct and intact.
In other words, did you compare sizes with the 7-Zip archive you downloaded or the KDZ you extracted from it?
In the end I believe the TOT and KDZ-flashing software checks the file to make sure it's both okay and is for the device you have connected, anyway.
You're welcome!
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both compared are .KDZ, The proper named file I d/l from Team Codefire was already in .KDZ format when d/l. The "improper named" 10B .KDZ Im not sure where I d/l from nor do I remember if file was zipped or not. If it was zipped then I extracted .KDZ and deleted the zip because I can't find it in any of my G3 folders/files. So im not sure why the size difference :/ also i have a question about flashing 35B, I know this is not proper place but didnt want to start a whole new thread for 1 question. I want to update to LP and 33B FROM my 10B KK and I see these "notes" in threads everywhere but never a link to proper update procedure, This is what I keep seeing about not using flash method to go from LP to KK or you end up with no d/l mode or other bricks possibly. from the stock img thread by bwen diorD ---------> (((((((((((***Note, Do Not use the flash2 method to go from KK to L.
Partitions other than boot, system and modem need to be updated, otherwise, you will have no download mode, and other possible issues.
***A tutorial to install the Boot, Modem, and System, using @autoprimes "Flash2" method, can be found Here.
***Custom recovery "flashable zips" for boot and modem by @hsbadr can be found here.))))))))))So Im 10B rooted/bumped with TWRP 3.0..which route do I take from KK to LP?? Just more files to flash?? and which procedure???
Thanks in advance!
Mike
11fan said:
also i have a question about flashing 35B, I know this is not proper place but didnt want to start a whole new thread for 1 question. I want to update to LP and 33B FROM my 10B KK and I see these "notes" in threads everywhere but never a link to proper update procedure, This is what I keep seeing about not using flash method to go from LP to KK or you end up with no d/l mode or other bricks possibly. from the stock img thread by bwen diorD ---------> (((((((((((***Note, Do Not use the flash2 method to go from KK to L.
Partitions other than boot, system and modem need to be updated, otherwise, you will have no download mode, and other possible issues.
***A tutorial to install the Boot, Modem, and System, using @autoprimes "Flash2" method, can be found Here.
***Custom recovery "flashable zips" for boot and modem by @hsbadr can be found here.))))))))))So Im 10B rooted/bumped with TWRP 3.0..which route do I take from KK to LP?? Just more files to flash?? and which procedure???
Thanks in advance!
Mike
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You can follow the directions in the OP of either @hsbadr 's JasmineROM 9.x, @HolyAngel 's SkyDragon 6.x or @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0, or what I say below for more detailed although technically optional information regarding the first two of those ROMs.
Flash either:
1. JasmineROM 9.0+9.1 and then the 35B bootstack after if you want almost completely stock 35B. Flashing the 35B bootstack after JasmineROM isn't mentioned in the JasmineROM OP and is actually optional, but encryptiona and Advanced/HD Calling won't work without it. If you choose not to flash the 35B bootstack after flashing JasmineROM, you should at least flash the 24B bootstack. SkyDragon 6.x is the exact same situation as JasmineROM 9.x.
You can use the debloat zip thread in my signature below on either of those two ROMs if you wish. I recommend flashing the debloat zip(s) before booting the ROM the first time. It'll make your first boot faster in addition to other things.
2. or flash the 35B bootstack first and then @xdabbeb 's excellent VS985 v2.0 ROM which I recommend. Even though I'm running 47A rooted debloated right now, his ROM is absolutely my favorite.
His ROM is very debloated, although there's some additional things I choose to remove via my debloat zips.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You can follow the directions in the OP of either @hsbadr 's JasmineROM 9.x, @HolyAngel 's SkyDragon 6.x or @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0, or what I say below for more detailed although technically optional information regarding the first two of those ROMs.
Flash either:
1. JasmineROM 9.0+9.1 and then the 35B bootstack after if you want almost completely stock 35B. Flashing the 35B bootstack after JasmineROM isn't mentioned in the JasmineROM OP and is actually optional, but encryptiona and Advanced/HD Calling won't work without it. If you choose not to flash the 35B bootstack after flashing JasmineROM, you should at least flash the 24B bootstack. SkyDragon 6.x is the exact same situation as JasmineROM 9.x.
You can use the debloat zip thread in my signature below on either of those two ROMs if you wish. I recommend flashing the debloat zip(s) before booting the ROM the first time. It'll make your first boot faster in addition to other things.
2. or flash the 35B bootstack first and then @xdabbeb 's excellent VS985 v2.0 ROM which I recommend. Even though I'm running 47A rooted debloated right now, his ROM is absolutely my favorite.
His ROM is very debloated, although there's some additional things I choose to remove via my debloat zips.
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exactly what i was looking for to the T! thank you very much! I was MAKING SURE the 35B bootstack would flash all necessary files/img's needed to move from 10B KK to 35B LP without making a paper weight out of my phone lol. so 35B bootstack then xdabbeb rom then debloat, script....would you recommend full wipe or? before any of the flashes , and I assume all this flash with TWRP.
THANKS!! That was A LOT of help! I just did not know FOR SURE OR NOT if anything special had to done with partitions jumping from KK to LP
Mike
11fan said:
exactly what i was looking for to the T! thank you very much! I was MAKING SURE the 35B bootstack would flash all necessary files/img's needed to move from 10B KK to 35B LP without making a paper weight out of my phone lol. so 35B bootstack then xdabbeb rom then debloat, script....would you recommend full wipe or? before any of the flashes , and I assume all this flash with TWRP.
THANKS!! That was A LOT of help! I just did not know FOR SURE OR NOT if anything special had to done with partitions jumping from KK to LP
Mike
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You're welcome! For such a large upgrade, from 10B to 35B, yes absolutely do a full wipe before flashing anything. I always do a full wipe, though. The built-in LG Backup does a bang up job for me for user apps, user data and limited system data - much faster than Titanium Backup.
You're welcome again!
Could someone point me in the right direction of how to build roms? Not CM or AOSP but stock roms for the vs985.
Hi! I want to make sure I understand what you want, or what you expect. Or maybe I should word it differently, give an example, and see if this is the start of what you're after.
For example, to make the most basic (and as completely stock as possible) ROM, the simplified steps are to extract the partition images from the KDZ (or TOT), and replace the existing partition images inside a currently flashable stock ROM zip. (you'd have to use a stock rom zip that uses partition images for this example, there are other ways to have information in a flashable zip, which I believe is how the Azadi ROM is implemented, but I don't have experience with that way. You could use the JasmineROM 9.0 zip as a base, just please PLEASE remove the partition images in there which are already present in the bootstacks, and then delete the corresponding lines from the updater-script that's in the ROM zip.)
This doesn't address bump'ing the kernel (which I have never done - I've relied on other far more experienced developers' work).
Nor the particulars of using some of the downgraded partitions, such as for the aboot (bootloader) and laf (Download mode), but that's all taken care of in the already existing bootstacks so there's no use duplicating that effort.
I also have no experience with implementing the systemless root. System root was easy enough - just flash the latest SuperSU.zip after flashing the stock ROM, but I don't think that's an option on Marshmallow if I understand correctly. My very basic stock ROM for the VK810 LG G Pad 8.3 is like this, but there's no stock Marshmallow for the VK810 so I haven't had to go down that road. Other than that, it's very similar to JasmineROM and now @xdabbeb 's stock Marshmallow firmware (46A and 47A) in that it's as completely stock as possible while retaining root.
I haven't personally compiled anything such as even a stock-based kernel from OEM source, and the closest I've come is modifying the necessary files for the 3MintiBatteryMod for the Sprint Galaxy S3 a couple of years ago, so if you want more technical stuff that I've summarized here, hopefully someone else can chime in - but this is a start.
Thank you very much for the info. And I think I'll try with the jasmine bases already made and go from there. I've just been wanting to make roms like how xdabbeb has been doing. But it might be a little over my head lol but I'm always willing to get myself in trouble
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Thank you very much for the info. And I think I'll try with the jasmine bases already made and go from there. I've just been wanting to make roms like how xdabbeb has been doing. But it might be a little over my head lol but I'm always willing to get myself in trouble
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You're very welcome! I'm thankful of @hsbadr , @HolyAngel and @xdabbeb teaching me either by example or directly what I know so far.
Noone else was making flashable stock rooted ROMs for my tablet when I got it, and I like dealing with the stock partition images because it's so simple and straight forward - when I noticed how relatively simple at least some of the JasmineROM releases looked inside the zip I was happy to find an example I could follow. I'm not motivated enough yet to dive into customization/modification.
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You're very welcome! I'm thankful of @hsbadr , @HolyAngel and @xdabbeb teaching me either by example or directly what I know so far.
Noone else was making flashable stock rooted ROMs for my tablet when I got it, and I like dealing with the stock partition images because it's so simple and straight forward - when I noticed how relatively simple at least some of the JasmineROM releases looked inside the zip I was happy to find an example I could follow. I'm not motivated enough yet to dive into customization/modification.
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Very true, and from all of the roms I've used from all three of them has really made me want to be able to make roms and tweak stuff like they do. So I'll try my hand and the stock stuff and see where that leads me too. And again thank you
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