I was wondering if anyone else had this "issue" (depends if anyone else has it...or if it's just me - needing to exchange it). On the top of the screen/glass, there's a gap between it and the rest of the phone. I feel that this area can fill up with dust, etc. Worse case scenario...dust goes other places (under the screen?). Is this normal? Does everyone have this gap - it's <0.5mm. But it definitely (potentially subjective) exposes the stuff under the screen...
Yes, considering the way you described it, this is normal. Not a defect of the device you got. Engadget brought it up when they did their review:
One characteristic that we've noticed on a number of other phones in the past year that we miss here is the gapless display, a display so close to the glass that it appears to be on the surface of the phone itself (in fact, it's so cool that Sony Ericsson actively markets it as a feature of the Xperia Arc). Well, there's definitely a noticeable gap on the Thunderbolt, but it's a purely aesthetic complaint -- there's zero effect on capability or usability whatsoever -- it's just fun to hold your phone at an angle once in a while and say, "wow."
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
I suggest we create a thread "Post photos of your Nexus 10 showing a black screen at XX% brightness". That would be a "wall of shame" to send to Google/Samsung. Not sure what the XX would be. 75%? 100%?
Doesn't really matter if its 75 or 100. The camera will auto expose and the images and exposure for every different picture will be different.
I dont care about light bleed, its minimal and I dont see on normal conditions.
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
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The only time I notice light bleed is when I boot up, and and I'm like wtf? I have then I quickly forget about it until I see a post on the forums about it.
Yeah you only notice it on screens with black background
Over the last few years I have haunted the Asus Transformer (through several versions) and now the Nexus tablet forums and ALL tablet products have various levels of light bleed which vary even between devices made on the same assembly line. It is like an echo that never dies.
If your device cannot be used due to excessive light bleed then RMA or sell it. If you are expecting no light bleed then, at this time, with this screen technology, tablets are not for you. From what I have read it does not matter which manufacturer, tablets have lightbleed.
This may sound harsh but see for yourself by reading other Tablet forums. You will read similar to identical complaints. Some perceived and some real (ASUS Transformer TF201 WiFi strength):
> Lightbleed
> WiFi poor signal strength to repeated dropped connections
> Poor build quality
> OTA releases that break something
> Poor video playback
> Interface stutter
> Reboots, poor battery life ... etc
I am not saying that you should put up with a poor product more that you should vote with your wallet and your consumer rights like RMAing a defective device.
The thing is about the N10, people might be able to deal with it if it was just some bright spots, but the thing that kills me is that they're bright yellow spots which can easily be seen in the bottom right menu bar thing at all times. This is by far the worst tablet I've ever seen in terms of lightbleed.
I never use my tablet completely in the dark at 100% brightness. I saw the light bleed when I tested it after reading these posts but then when i turn the brightness back down to 50% its gone. I don't even notice it in the dark parts of movies. I understand that there are probably some worse cases than mine, but sometimes I think people are too picky.
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I never use my tablet completely in the dark at 100% brightness. I saw the light bleed when I tested it after reading these posts but then when i turn the brightness back down to 50% its gone. I don't even notice it in the dark parts of movies. I understand that there are probably some worse cases than mine, but sometimes I think people are too picky.
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I am not sure if it's a matter of being too picky. I think what kills is that the lightbleed on this table is yellow. If it was white I would tolerate it better.
Start two more threads just to be sure...
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I am not sure if it's a matter of being too picky. I think what kills is that the lightbleed on this table is yellow. If it was white I would tolerate it better.
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My minor light bleed is pure white.
I don't have any issues with lightbleed on my N10. Is it there an I don't notice it? That may be the case, I guess I don't stare at a black screen and have unrealistic expectations... Great tablet and would recommend it to anyone!
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
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You must not understand manufacturing at all
I opened my N10, the screen is sealed with the front glass inside a plastic frame. The only screws inside are on a metal frame that holds th battery in place, which have no effect on the extent of lightbleed.
With tablets nowadays even with the Asus (which I've tried myself), the screen is attached to the touch panel (digitizer) via strong double sided tape. The screen is really thin so any flex during installation will cause it to be uneven causing some of the light bleed. You can probably remedy it by using a blow dryer or heat gun in low setting to be able to lift up the screen from the touch panel where you have light bleed and even it back down. You have to be careful not to bend the screen too much or it will crack. Again this will probably be a very thin screen (about 2-3mm) and fragile screen. IMO dont even try it and just get it exchanged and hope you get a better one.
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The screen is fused to the digitiser, ie no double sided tape, and it is impossible to separate screen and digigiser
Chluz said:
The screen is fused to the digitiser, ie no double sided tape, and it is impossible to separate screen and digigiser
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Not sure youre right. I work for an ATM company and we have touchscreen machines and the touchpanel is sandwiched in between the LCD and front glass. But on tablets the screen is not fused but they use a double sided tape. Whats probably fused is the gorilla glass and the digitizer. Post edited
Also I know this because I've completely removed a dead screen from an asus prime before. Once you have both separated the glass has a thin film (digitizer) on it and on the bottom of the film is a ribbon cable. The screen itself has nothing on the front but a thin 1/4 foam tape around it.
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Not sure youre right. I work for an ATM company and we have touchscreen machines and the touchpanel is sandwiched in between the LCD and front glass. But on tablets the screen is not fused but they use a double sided tape. Whats probably fused is the gorilla glass and the digitizer. Post edited
Also I know this because I've completely removed a dead screen from an asus prime before. Once you have both separated the glass has a thin film (digitizer) on it and on the bottom of the film is a ribbon cable. The screen itself has nothing on the front but a thin 1/4 foam tape around it.
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I might have misread your post, but I was talking about the nexus 10, Sorry for the confusion
It used to be that there was a piece of double sided sticky tape (like I have on my old tab) between digitiser/ protective glass and LCD screen. For the nexus 10 howver,this website says its all fused together
"Everything else seems to come out just as easily, according to the write-up. But the Nexus 10 display and digitizer are fused together, so there's no chance of separating the two. " http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/google-nexus-10-rated-extremely-repairable-after-teardown-50009785/
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If you are expecting no light bleed then, at this time, with this screen technology, tablets are not for you.
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This is a ridiculous statement ..there are plenty of tablets without light bleed and everyone should expect to not have light bleed. Now the bleed I'm talking about are the blotchy spot types where there is glow coming from one area that extends out from one/multiple areas. Which the N10 has very bad blotches. Totally unacceptable. Slight even "leak" around the edges is one thing but a yellow blob coming out of a corner when you watch videos is ridiculous.
My HP Touchpad made my 2 N10s look like crap in regards to light bleed. Yeah, a touchpad.
I hope they get it right soon... prob will give it another go in a month at a physical store if I hear good things
After working on this problem for a while now and trying a few roms with black screen on calls, finally found a 100% successful fix for about 10 Atrix i have worked on and so far issue has not returned !!
I know it is a common problem with a lot of roms where when making a call the screen goes black instantly after dialing and the proximity sensor cannot be used to wake the screen nor the volume button and no way to use numbers to choose in call options, meaning literally doing a battery pull to reboot the device.
I tried a few things thinking it helped and for a while did but the issue slowly came back but after some work and patience with the phone got it working properly, here is what i did :-
While making or receiving a call squeezed the whole top end of the phone, in other words squeeze the front and back together clamping relatively hard ( be careful not to crack the screen ) and the screen comes back on enabling in call functions and proximity sensor.
Opened phone up and checked position of proximity sensor and flat cables ( being directly inside where we were clamping in the last section ) and saw that the flat cable with the earphone connector and proximity sensor had moved away from the screen.
On the second flat cable ( the one with the touch pad ) is a sponge sticker ( placed directly on the back of the touch pad connector ) which presses directly onto the back of the proximity sensor and holds it close to the screen, which was pretty flattened, so i put on a new piece of sticky sponge on top of the old one making it thicker, to hold the proximity sensor tight to the screen.
I reassembled the phone ( put the back on and screwed it in tight ) and tried with the calls again, so far everything is great.[/COLOR]
There was also the same problem with some poorly fitted touchscreens, either where it has not been stuck into the frame well enough or the original adhesive become worn out and not sticky enough any more, so i refitted the screens with extra strong double sided adhesive and again 100% of phones with the problem still good !!
If there is a slight gap between the screen and frame it can mis-align the proximity sensor with the holes in the frame and the clear section of the screen needed for light inlet !!
Also as we all know, there are roms / kernels which produce a lot of heat in the handset, this is also a contributing factor, due to the adhesive used in fitting the touchscreen losing strength and the screen slowly moving away fromn the internal frame !!
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR GRANTED, I AM ONLY STATING WHAT HAS HELPED ME AND REMEMBER ALL DEVICES ACT AND REACT DIFFERENTLY !
I really hopes this helps you all, if it did please let me know or if you found something different it is equally important that i can try this too and we can really get to the root of the issue together !!!
i know i can stop blaming the roms now and say it's a hardware issue !!
Thanks again to the developers here for the hard work on the roms , keep it up !!! :good:
After I updated my Nokia Lumia 920. the screen turns off when im dialing someone, and the only way to get it back is to restart it or if the person on the other end hangs up.
Could it be the light sensor? or is it just the phone update that messed it up?
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...n-t-switch-off-Lumia-920/td-p/1606440/page/10
Thanks!
I will return it tomorrow, since im not ready to open it after 20 days of use
now its REALLY FIXED but need to open the phone (only two screws )
Symptoms:
Experience screen and touch sensor switch off during a call, Notifications (the screen stays off, like if it was in a pocket) which doesn't turn on as usual.
Try:
If during a call you press and hold the upper left corner of the glass -just between the speaker and the upper left corner- you will notice that the sensor works as expected.
I think :
Because of the layered nature of the phone internals design and the heavy use of ribbon connectors it had to be tight to connect the board with the sensor.
My Solution:
I just added a peace of sponge (W:4mm/H:5mm/L:15mm) (all weather door and window sealant) -that comes self adheasive from one side- and sticked a small peace on the board on the opposite side of the phonejack/secondary mic connectors (Pictures attached) this will add pressure on the board to be more tight tried it and working as normal.
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Thanks!
I will return it tomorrow, since im not ready to open it after 20 days of use
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Mine is suffering the same issue. In the Nokia forums one user recommended to "blow air" across the top of the phone where the display meets the case right above the Nokia logo. I did this and now my proximity sensor is working. It's got to be dust getting on the sensor. I'm going to take mine apart and see if I can come up with a seal for the FFC and proximity sensor.
Anybody else have this noise when pressing on or near the fingerprint sensor? Makes me question how good this pixel 6 build quality really is...
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This the first time I have heard about this issue.
The thumb print sensor vibrates and makes a slight sound. The gestures do the same.. . Normal behavior...
vandyman said:
This the first time I have heard about this issue.
The thumb print sensor vibrates and makes a slight sound. The gestures do the same.. . Normal behavior...
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Hmm.. not sure what I'm looking at.
if you refer to the hollow sound of the display, it's the technology that is used. Tapping on it sounds "cheap" and hollow compared to a Samsung or OnePlus phone.
Free floating edge bonded panel vs midframe fully bonded panel. The Pixel 6 is the former.
However, if it makes a snapping sound when you push on it, then the bonding between top glass and actual screen has failed and should fall under the hardware warranty. I can't tell from your video whether that's the case though.
Mine doesn't make that noise
So should I RMA mine?