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I have a Galaxy S2 phone (running Ice-Cream-Sandwich), but i flashed a larger 'System partition' and 'Data partition' ( 1GB & 6GB respectively ), which is much larger than the Stock version.
Ok, imagine this comparison:
THREE identical GalaxyS2 phones:
* 1st phone: Adroid 4.0.3 (Ice-Cream-Sandwich), running Nova Launcher.
* 2nd phone: Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean), running Nova Launcher.
* 3rd phone: Android 5 (Lollipop), running Nova Launcher.
in ALL 3 cases, i will be using Nova Launcher. So my Visual experience will be identical.
so, what is the point of bothering to upgrade the Phone OS ?
- as far as I have heard, upgrading OS on the Galaxy S2 will slow down my phone anyway.
is there something I have missed ?
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I have a Galaxy S2 phone (running Ice-Cream-Sandwich), but i flashed a larger 'System partition' and 'Data partition' ( 1GB & 6GB respectively ), which is much larger than the Stock version.
Ok, imagine this comparison:
THREE identical GalaxyS2 phones:
* 1st phone: Adroid 4.0.3 (Ice-Cream-Sandwich), running Nova Launcher.
* 2nd phone: Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean), running Nova Launcher.
* 3rd phone: Android 5 (Lollipop), running Nova Launcher.
in ALL 3 cases, i will be using Nova Launcher. So my Visual experience will be identical.
so, what is the point of bothering to upgrade the Phone OS ?
- as far as I have heard, upgrading OS on the Galaxy S2 will slow down my phone anyway.
is there something I have missed ?
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You'll be less vulnerable to security hole that has been patch up in latest OS. There have been numerous report about hacker able to steal your phone data back on 4.0-4.2.
Also new features and possible bug fixes. Your question is like why to buy a new car when your 20 years old is the same color, it has 4 doors as well, etc.
By the way, pretty bad approach judging an os by just the visual appearance. Furthermore i don't believe samsung did not change the UI at least slightly between those versions. Not to mention the UI is not just your launcher.
Just one big change between 4.x and 5.x - in the latter, the apps run in ART, before they ran in dalvik. Art supposed to be faster as - and i don't remember exactly the technical details - but the code is pre-translated when they are installed and not upon run-time.
There can be no comparison of what launcher you have on what phone compared to what OS version it has.
I've used several phones over the last 18 months, the one I bought off eBay running android 4.0.4 ice cream sandwich was c***.
I then had several phones running 4.1 or 4.2 jelly bean, these where better, much more "stable"
I have a galaxy s1 running 5.1.1 lollipop, and a brand new moto e purchased with 4.4.4 kitkat but now upgraded to 5.1.1 lollipop and by co insistence I run nova too, and as far as I'm concerned, lollipop is streets ahead of anything else, with kit kat a close second, but my opinion is not based on what launcher each phone has, its based on a range of variables, calling, texting, ease of use, bugs, music, and internet browsing.
Running the latest software means a device is less vulnerable to security issues, will be running at peak performance and small bugs will be fixed.
For anyone to say I have three phones running nova so I don't need to update to a newer software is quite frankly naive, stupid and irresponsible, but that's your choice and just my opinion, its a bit silly to judge latest OS but how it looks, remember how it looks is just one small thing, Samsung haven't changed touchwiz much since the year dot have they?
I prefer a stock look on any phone I use that's why I went for a moto e, flashed omni ROM on my s1 and run nova to get rid of the awful touchwiz and run the latest OS on my phones.
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Reidwan said:
You'll be less vulnerable to security hole that has been patch up in latest OS. There have been numerous report about hacker able to steal your phone data back on 4.0-4.2.
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ivan39 said:
There can be no comparison of what launcher you have on what phone compared to what OS version it has.
.... the one I bought off eBay running android 4.0.4 ice cream sandwich was c***.
I then had several phones running 4.1 or 4.2 jelly bean, these where better, much more "stable"
I have a galaxy s1 running 5.1.1 lollipop,
.... and as far as I'm concerned, lollipop is streets ahead of anything else, with kit kat a close second,
its based on a range of variables, calling, texting, ease of use, bugs, music, and internet browsing.
Running the latest software means a device is less vulnerable to security issues, will be running at peak performance and small bugs will be fixed.
For anyone to say I have three phones running nova so I don't need to update to a newer software is quite frankly naive, stupid and irresponsible, but that's your choice and just my opinion, its a bit silly to judge latest OS but how it looks, remember how it looks is just one small thing, Samsung haven't changed touchwiz much since the year dot have they?
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Thanks for your replies guys:
i want to share my personal reasons (based on what you said):
i have had ALL THREE of the above OS running on my GalaxyS2. (IceCream Sandwich, JellyBean and Lollipop).
its currently with Lollipop running Nova. (but its way too slow on my phone and killing my battery).
so, my thoughts were to Downgrade to Jellybean (which I know will be much faster) for my phone and use a Nova Launcher.
- (I have a feeling that KitKat will also be slow on my device).
As for the issues you both pointed out:
- Security issues that you both mention. Seriously, I am not concerned by any security vunerabilities or people stealing my data. I have nothing important worth stealing on my phone. i am 0% concerned by security.
- However, if some small Bugs have been fixed, then obviously that is a PLUS. (from my memory, I didnt have many issues with Jellybean, though ICS seemed to crash a lot).
- You mentioned: "Calling, Texting, Browsing" is improved with more recent versions. BUT, arent these just Apps ? Browsing is Chrome. Chrome on jellybean or Lollipo is the same Chrome app. FUnctioning exactly the same, no ?
and SMS and Phone and contacts again are Apps.. part of the Google Apps (Gapps). and i can also download any 3rd party phone or SMS. so I didnt really understand how a latter version of OS can be better browsing, phone and SMS. (again, i am not concerned with security if that was your point).
I am on a Galaxy S2 that has increased System and Data partitions. but its still limited by speed.
with every version of OS i go up, my phone slows down slightly.
is there something (apart from the above) that I am not aware of ?
IYes there is something else you are missing.
You have an s2, I have an s1, its not my daily phone, its my work phone.
I noticed like you that the higher version OS I used, the phone did indeed slow down.
It slowed down due to hardware limitations of the device, not the Newer OS slowing the phone, its was the phone slowing the OS down..........
In my personal experience, my s1 also drained the battery whilst on lollipop, kit kat didn't drain so much , but was very laggy, and jelly bean (4.3.1) was about the best choice between performance and stability, didn't lag but had much less in the way of tweaking options.
I also had a phone from a Korean manufacturer (huawei) that I hated the horrible ui, installing Nova over the usual ui, and after a few days the phone became laggy, froze and crashed a lot.
Now for the bad bit.
1. Are you mad?
You say you are 0% concerned about security?
HELLO!
Do you know what its like to be the victim of identity theft?
Dont you understand saying "I have nothing on my phone" is like saying there is no petrol in my car......
What about your contacts?
What about your own personal data like passwords and emails?
Your phone number?
Android constantly updates any security issues with things like this, it is very important and you should be concerned about it, not display such naivety in this nasty place of a world, someone will always try to take advantage of you or people that show no concern for their or their contacts security, believe me.
2. Again, you show no understanding and much naivety by suggesting browsing, calling and SMS are just the same app.
Let me correct you, its not.
The chrome I use on my moto e is not the same chrome that was on it before it upgraded from kit kat to lollipop, yes its a better, and improved version, but no, not the same, neither is the built in browser, the dialer or the messaging app.
You suggest you can use or replace the stock apps with 3rd party apps, yes you can, and no one or nothing can stop you doing that.......
But have you stopped for a second to consider the small fact that using Nova launcher and other 3rd party apps over the stock ones may been the cause of your problems?
Just because you have increased partition size does not mean throwing 100 apps on it will make it work faster or better than before, you are still limited by physical ram and processing speed, and I'm sure your s2 processor isn't anywhere near as fast as the processor on my moto e?
Yes you may have noticed a difference by increasing partition size but in my own experience, and reading lots other peoples experiences on here, lots of problems can be attributed to having too many apps bogging the system down, and nova is known to be a big ram hogger!
This is what crashed my Huawei
And I agree with the previous post that it may be a bad idea saying what your phone looks like is a reason or no reason to update the OS.
Its entirely up to you if you choose to update or not, no one can make that choice only you, but I fear by the nature of your post and what you have replied that you don't have that much experience and don't really know what you are talking about.
Its not my intention to offend or upset you, but you don't display the knowledge to press you argument, i suspect many here on xda will not even bother replying to you or may just laugh at you, I'm not going to lecture you, ive probably embarrassed you enough so I'll shut up.
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I'm sorry if my reply was harsh, I was not meant to be harsh, but I want make you realise your phones performance is not dictated by the launcher, although the launcher you use can have a dramatic effect on your phones performance.
Have you tried other launchers?
Your post doesn't say if you have, so I suggest you try holo or L launcher, something lightweight, test and report how you get on, goto play store, have a good look around, mini launcher is another one to consider.
Forget nova, let's assume Nova is your problem.
Try other launchers.
Get rid of the 3rd party apps.
All of them.
Just keep essential apps, no bloat and nothing unnecessary.
Again, test for a few days, report back.
Downgrade your android version to 4.3, again, don't install anything unnecessary and test, see how you get on.
Report your findings after a few days.
Stop advertising the fact you have an increased partition, it won't have any effect on performance and just throwing lots of apps on your newly larger partitioned storage will still bog it down.
Forget it, but its still there, its not going to have any effect on your overall performance, so don't tell anyone about it, there's no point.
Please let us know his you get on, but promise to try my suggestions first, OK?
There is a reason I said things the way I did.........
That is when I started messing around last year with my S1 and had problems with lag, crashing and various other issues, I did not research what was causing my problems, it was only the fact I had a shed load of 3rd party apps slowing my S1 down and when I posted here on xda that fact, I was made fun of and people called me stupid, I'm not suggesting you are stupid, but take time to experiment and don't assume anything, this can be sorted but only with some time and effort from you.
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ivan39 said:
It slowed down due to hardware limitations of the device, not the Newer OS slowing the phone, its was the phone slowing the OS down..........
In my personal experience, my s1 also drained the battery whilst on lollipop, kit kat didn't drain so much , but was very laggy, and jelly bean (4.3.1) was about the best choice between performance and stability, didn't lag but had much less in the way of tweaking options.
You say you are 0% concerned about security?
Do you know what its like to be the victim of identity theft?
What about your contacts?
What about your own personal data like passwords and emails?
Your phone number?
You suggest you can use or replace the stock apps with 3rd party apps, yes you can, and no one or nothing can stop you doing that.......
But have you stopped for a second to consider the small fact that using Nova launcher and other 3rd party apps over the stock ones may been the cause of your problems?
Have you tried other launchers?
I suggest you try holo or L launcher or mini launcher, something lightweight
Forget nova, let's assume Nova is your problem.
Get rid of the 3rd party apps.
All of them.
Just keep essential apps, no bloat and nothing unnecessary.
Downgrade your android version to 4.3, again, don't install anything unnecessary and test, see how you get on.
Please let us know his you get on, but promise to try my suggestions first, OK?
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wow!! really, i wasnt expecting such a detailed reply.
honestly, thank you very much for the time and effort you put into your reply. (really, no offence taken at your harshness).
and hopefully others that stumble on this subject (in my position) will learn from the input on this thread.
OK.
the only thing that you wont like to hear, is about security, i'm still not worried about it as much as yourself...
(but everything else you said, I agree with)
[About the Security topic]
my reason:
i know tonnes of people who are on ICS or Jellybean still (because that is what came with their phone). they maybe upgraded once (from Gingerbread to ICS, or from ICS to Jellybean).
all these people i know are way less technical than I am !! and they wouldnt have a clue how to update their phones that they have been carrying around for 4+ years.
there must be litterally millions of people around each country (grandparents, non-tech people, kids of around 8 to 12 years old with a smart phone). and all on the same stock version of android that originally came with their phones.
(Android Version 'Market Share', currently shows 50% of the market using kit-kat and beyond... and the remaining 50% using jellybean and before).
[source: wikipedia Android Version Page]
so, not wanting to have the latest android version (coz of improved security) means I am in the same boat as half of all the worlds android users.
anyway... no point wasting time about security. that is the only part I am of a different opinion with you. (and even if you feel I am being silly,,, I am not a worrier,,, even if they get my contacts and start annoying my friends or emailing whoever or deleting my facebook or reading my emails. or even pleasuring themselves to my family photos,, honestly i am not gonna lose any sleep over it).
i'm sure most people dont want that. and of course i dont either. but also i'm not sacrifice the speed of my phone (which I use so many times per day), just coz I feel safer about security with a more recent OS that my phone is trying to keep-up with (resulting in a slowly user experience).
Everything else that you said really ressonated with me.
i only know the TouchWiz and Nova. so Yes, I will try holo or L launcher or mini launcher.
Currently I have Lolipop and Nova and a basic Gapps package and about 50 apps downloaded.. (though many are not being used).
i have this hunch, that (for me) my best option will end up being a simple return to a Jelly Bean Custom (unbloated) Rom, with a launcher that doesnt hog the RAM too much.
My 50 Apps on the phone will probably end up being more like 30 in the end after I have weeded out the bad ones.
if I can find a good KitKat Rom that is stable, unbloated and highly recommended, then I might be happy with that too
PS: Ok, i wont bragg about my amazing supersonic 1GB system partition and 6GB of data.. Lol .. (ok,, sorry,, couldnt resist)..
PPS: seriously,, this lollipop is crazy battery drain on my phone! it ran out in under an hour!! just one photo was eating up 1% each time!
i had way more apps (with ICS and Jellybean last month) and never had this kind of battery drain !
sorry for the long winded reply.
(kind of a thanks for your original replies)
I will report my findings here.. but it may be slow,, coz I dont have much time for app data saving, and backups this next week.
Well at least we agree!
I can't really compare my S1 to your S2 (mine has a super extended 9gb partition that some people say having is total madness) since I updated it to lollipop the battery drain was mad, totally crazy.
But for a 5year old phone that was officially only supposed to run android 2.3 gingerbread, I had an amazing time boasting to my work colleges I had the latest version of android, but was humiliated and embarrassed by the 5hr battery time (on stand by with data and WiFi on)
I too used nova with a lollipop theme, uninstalling nova smoothed out general running, it was a tad more stable, but i like you assumed the launcher was the be all and end all, I had no idea that some launchers absolutely killed the battery or consumed so much ram.
I also wrongly assumed having such a large internal partition was fine to put loads of apps, themes, ringtones ect.
I had around 40 apps on my S1 when general stability was lost, it was laggy, crashed, rebooted and force closed all the time.
So after being made fun of in the omni ROM forum here on xda, I took the plunge and downgraded to kitkat, again, I lost general stability but going through my own investigations and testing and retesting, i found my gapps package was the culprit.
I flashed a smaller gapps package and general stability was restored, but I still had laggy start ups and force closes.
I downgraded again to cm10.2 (android 4.3.1) and that cured my problem once and for all.
I had similar issue a fortnight ago when I got my brand new moto e on contract, I got a bootloader unlock code from Motorola and didn't waste anytime rooting and flashing cm12.1 (android 5.1.1) but after a few days it became unstable, so I'm now testing other custom roms, the best for moto e I've found being paranoid android lp 5.1.1 and cr droid lollipop that I'm running now, but I'm not running nova on my moto e, as the trebuchet or launcher 3 whatever it is called is just as configurable as nova, I'm running a cm12.1 theme and I'm very happy with my set up, but I only have about a dozen apps like Facebook, YouTube and gmail installed, and it is the most stable configuration I've ever found in a custom ROM.
I do wish you well, im very glad you agreed with my reply, and I do wish you well, I just think its a shame I don't have an S2 to hand so I could help you out, there's nothing worse than having problems with our phones!
Good luck
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Hi. I currently own Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 for more than a year and I thought its good time to change phone. As you can see, Im a person who buys budget phones. I was searching for my next budget phone and Motorola Moto E LTE got my attention. I couldnt find a better deal than this, so I thought before making a final decision I will ask some opinions from people who got this phone. So, what do you think of Moto E and can you recommend it? What are biggest disadvantages and hows the performance? I already know that lack of flashlight is big hit for me.
Well it's a hard question. On stock 5.0.2 (there is still no update in eu) performance is preatty bad. Sometimes it runs smooth but there are cases when it lags horrible. I don't know who even installed chrome on this phone: it is cleary unusable however I instaled lighting browser and it works fine.
I've bought this phone because I tought that it will be my first smartphone which will be runing fine out of the box without modifications and I'm disapionted now :/ There is update in US and it probably fixes some of performance issues but when it will be available in eu? We still don't know.
Of course there is some good things like:
- of course price
- build quality
- very fast gps
- decent screen for it's price
- great battery life (up to 7h of screen on time)
- almost clean android
- decent speaker
- sd card slot and enabled android's app to sd
- up to date cpu (bigger chance that it will get android m)
- lte
- big data partion (we get 5gb out of 8gb so I think that's good)
- good light sensor
- and I very like it's look (but it's my own preference)
and what is bad now:
- performance on 5.0.2
- there is no e-compas! (my xperia x8 had compas in 2010)
- no notification led (this is very annoying since moto display is too sensitive and ambient display works randomly)
- fornt camera (back one is decent but sometimes it can't focus well)
- lack of camera flash
- updates aren't so fast (at least in eu)
- miracast isn't working (because of only 2,4 ghz wifi)
- moto features aren't working well on 5.0.2, for exaple twist to turn on camera isn't working properly (after twist I feel the vibration but screen isn't turning on)
So would I buy it again?? I don't know, it's performance is really discapointing right now. I compared it to moto g on 4.4.4 (which should be slower because of 720p screen and slower cpu) and it was like day and night. G was way faster.
Thats a bummer. I thought it was very good for basic usage like messages and browser. I heard Android 5.0 had memory leaks, but from what youre saying performance is really bad here. Is it fixed in 5.1?
well for basic usage it can make a job, I discabled all moto services that you can discable in settings, installed nova launcher, lighting browser and it's somehow working. When it starts lags I clean my recent apps and it helps.
The phone is preatty good but it was relased in bad time, in days of probably the worst android relase, lollipop looks cool but it can't be as fast as kitkat :/
howerer when I compared it to my other firend's moto g on stock 5.0.2 they were running simmilar and he told me that he hasn't got issues with it (but he often clear recent apps so maybe thats the reason)
I belive that 5.1.1 will fix all the issues, we have to wait.
I would appreciate other people opinions.
just too good a phone at this price
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I would appreciate other people opinions.
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when i purchased it i dint have much expectations considering its cheap.but then as i am using it for over 2 months now ,i dont feel it as a cheap phone.it never hanged on me..not even once.though i have disabled quite a lot of stuff but thats fine...this is first phone i am running without rooting in last 5 years.and surprisingly i am not feeling need to .My battery lasts beyond 3 days and it runs fast enuf in comparison to my past phones which i had to root to make them usable(samsung s3 , s advance etc)
i wud say go fr it..5.1 update is sure to improve it further
When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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Well, I think it cant be worse than my current Galaxy Ace 2.
As in title. Running atm stock 5.1.1 with elementalx kernel ( tried going back to stock one ). At best get 5 h SoT but mostly 4 ( from what I can see people get on average 7-8 hours. Tried clean flashing it once again, tried lollipaloza ( meh ). In addition to that I think the performance of my N9 is pretty weak ( gets laggy on home screen, switching between apps, some games ). Any suggestion about fix ( maybe matter of ROM or kernel? )In worst case scenario will probably just send it back to HTC service.
Cheers
SOT is very dependant on what else is going on with your device. I seriously doubt there is anything wrong with your device and I wouldn't waste your time or HTC's returning it. Those who are getting longer time are doing the following:
Location off
Touch sounds off
Screen dimming on manual and low
To name a few
Google battery life xda. There are many threads on how to get better battery life on XDA. Kernels and roms are not magic bullets.
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SOT is very dependant on what else is going on with your device. I seriously doubt there is anything wrong with your device and I wouldn't waste your time or HTC's returning it. Those who are getting longer time are doing the following:
Location off
Touch sounds off
Screen dimming on manual and low
To name a few
Google battery life xda. There are many threads on how to get better battery life on XDA. Kernels and roms are not magic bullets.
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Those are screenshots taken 1 min ago of my battery.
http://imgur.com/a/9sH1B
The battery isnt the biggest problem thou ( as long as it keeps 1 day on 1 charge its k for me, ofc would love it to be around 7-8 hours instead of 4.5h ) the biggest problem is my experience about performance of my N9, even thou it is supposed to be much more powerfull device than N5 it just does not feel at least as smooth as N5. It feels way more laggy than N5. Maybe this is how N9 rolls. Does yours N9 like have 2-3 sec delay after pressing home button to return to main screen? boot up 2 mins + ( everytime )? 2-3 sec delay after oppenning apps? You bassiclly feel like it is choking with simple tasks such as returning back to home screen. Cause on my N5 all of those things are instant thats why I am wondering whats a problem here.
1. Gonna try disabling location ( most of time it was on GPS only )
2. I've got touch sound off straight after took it out of box ( it annoyed me )
3. Well my screen is most of a day on like 15% of brightness and when I am in a bed it is min
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I have to ask about custom ROMs at this point. I have a Nexus 6 running stock T-Mobile firmware and it runs amazing. Very responsive...I rarely if ever touch the screen and then feel like it locked up. The N9? Not so much. I've run stock 5.x.x and I'm running the 3rd M Preview right now, and I can't say I am seeing any improvement. M seems no better or worse, except with sleep battery drain on M, which is awesomely small.
I find that the WORST app on the device is Chrome, no matter what version (stable/beta/dev). It is just touch, then wait for SOMETHING to happen. Even the loading circles and often the bottom nav bar stuff goes unresponsive. Multitasking can take several seconds to switch or start an app. It's just a stuttery, freezing mess. I don't know at this point if it's that stock Android just sucks on the N9, or the nVidia 'denver' experiment is just a total fail. To answer a common rejoinder: I have wiped the device several times and see the same crappy stuttering/lagging/freezing on a newly reset tablet.
I'm wondering if people who were in my circumstances found salvation with a custom ROM and/or Kernel. If so, is there a 'favorite' out there for compatibliity, speed and stability? Do these ROMs for the N9 truly solve the atrocious unresponsiveness of the device? I honestly don't even give a crap about battery drain at this point. I'd rather have a tablet I have to recharge all the time than one I don't even want to pick up because I can tap the screen and then go do something on my Nexus 6 while waiting for the Nexus 9 to unfreeze itself and consider doing the thing I just asked.
Any advice would be useful. I'm okay with going back to a 5.x custom ROM at this point. I am looking forward to Marshmallow, but it hasn't really solved my complaints against this tablet.
Randy
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Just found it while flicking through Q&A posts in N9 section . This is exactly what I experince.
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Those are screenshots taken 1 min ago of my battery.
http://imgur.com/a/9sH1B
the biggest problem is my experience about performance of my N9, even thou it is supposed to be much more powerfull device than N5 it just does not feel at least as smooth as N5. It feels way more laggy than N5. Maybe this is how N9 rolls. Does yours N9 like have 2-3 sec delay after pressing home button to return to main screen? boot up 2 mins + ( everytime )? 2-3 sec delay after oppenning apps? You bassiclly feel like it is choking with simple tasks such as returning back to home screen. Cause on my N5 all of those things are instant thats why I am wondering whats a problem here.
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Yes, everyone experiences this unless they only have the stock GApps installed and nothing else. Eventually the device will become laggy like that after a week or two of a fresh flash of the Nexus images.
It is in my humble opinion that it is not software, but a hardware issue. The device has a 64bit CPU and 64bit OS. That in it self is a good thing, but coupled with the fact it only has 2GB of RAM is where the issue lies. If the N9 had 3GB of RAM we would not be experiencing these issues.
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Yes, everyone experiences this unless they only have the stock GApps installed and nothing else. Eventually the device will become laggy like that after a week or two of a fresh flash of the Nexus images.
It is in my humble opinion that it is not software, but a hardware issue. The device has a 64bit CPU and 64bit OS. That in it self is a good thing, but coupled with the fact it only has 2GB of RAM is where the issue lies. If the N9 had 3GB of RAM we would not be experiencing these issues.
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Yea, you are probably right. Just wanting to add my 2 cents. I've followed some of the advice found here on XDA. A lot of people recommended switching to Dirty Unicorns. So did I. Must admit that it rotated my experience by 180°. My N9 finely feels smooth.
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Yea, you are probably right. Just wanting to add my 2 cents. I've followed some of the advice found here on XDA. A lot of people recommended switching to Dirty Unicorns. So did I. Must admit that it rotated my experience by 180°. My N9 finely feels smooth.
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There are customs ROMs on many devices that can give you some visual *tweaks* to give the illusion of faster performance. When it comes down to the bottom line no ROM can add a GB of much needed RAM.
I'm not picking on the N9, I love the device and there isn't another tablet I would rather purchase. Google said they were not making a 2015 Nexus tablet which is fine by me, but it would have been nice to come out with a 2015 of the N9 with 3-4GB of RAM...
ANY DEV'S HERE ?? PLEASE !!
LG ALREADY SHARED THE OPENSOURCE NOUGAT http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=h901
and i dont know what is going on to happen after i found this https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
LOT OF V10 USERS ARE FEELING LONELY SOME ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD
IS A REQUEST BEHALF OF ALL LG V10 USERS
Hopefully LG did a better job with their code in N....cause from what a feew devs had said about the V10 and a few other LG models....terrible quality code....mot sure if just sloppy, inefficient or what..just crappy.
prc.kailas said:
ANY DEV'S HERE ?? PLEASE !!
LG ALREADY SHARED THE OPENSOURCE NOUGAT http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=h901
and i dont know what is going on to happen after i found this https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
LOT OF V10 USERS ARE FEELING LONELY SOME ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD
IS A REQUEST BEHALF OF ALL LG V10 USERS
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I second that request. The LG V10 is a brilliant, flagship device...marred only by lousy battery life (ez to swap the battery out, though). I was expecting that since LG is porting Nougat to the V10, there would be dev work going on. There was a rooted version of the stock H90120e upgrade (which I have on my h901); but, it seems all development stopped after that. The fact that there were enough V10 owners to force LG into doing the Nougat upgrade should prove that there is a sizable market for a new, unlocked Nougat ROM. If anyone does it, I will be glad to act as a tester.
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I second that request. The LG V10 is a brilliant, flagship device...marred only by lousy battery life (ez to swap the battery out, though). I was expecting that since LG is porting Nougat to the V10, there would be dev work going on. There was a rooted version of the stock H90120e upgrade (which I have on my h901); but, it seems all development stopped after that. The fact that there were enough V10 owners to force LG into doing the Nougat upgrade should prove that there is a sizable market for a new, unlocked Nougat ROM. If anyone does it, I will be glad to act as a tester.
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Battery life..yea...in my experience, it fluctuated allot. For a while, my V10 was getting very good battery life, but the last couple months, battery life is terrible, especially just standby time. Its drops to the mid 60's after just 4 hrs of sitting with screen off and nothing happening. I haven't change anything on it.
I recently switched to my Moto X Pure that is stock 6.0 but rooted and lightly modded with exposed....battery life is freaking amazing. Downgrade in camera(but stereo front facing speakers sound amazing), but I think my taste in Android had changed. Moto is closest to pure Google Android as u can get without getting a Nexus or Pixel, only a little bit of Moto apps and services added on...no UI or heavy customization. The experience is much smoother.
I recently had the chance to actually use a Pixel XL for a few days...and WOW...never used Android device that was so buttery smooth and fast. Makes sense cause with the Pixel, Google controls both hardware and software (like Apple and iphone). Only things that is holding me back is that the Pixel doesn't support AptX, which is important to me (but i read that Android O will soon fix that), and also the hefty price...have to get 128gb version since 32 is too small for me and no micro sd slot. Would cost $1,048 for the Pixel 128Gb with Google 2yr ADH warranty. Also, the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL (6in lcd) may come out end of this year (November?) so looking forward to seeing how they improved upon the already nice product...at the very lest, price on 1st gen Pixel should come down at that point. Rather wait and dump the money on newer model in a few months...
As far as my V10....plan to wipe and re-flash rom...see if that helps restore the things battery life....but rather do that with an updated custom stock rom...but nothing newer than what i already have....so it its waiting for the 7.0 update.
@speedingcheetah
Hi
I have a V10 H901 running Eliminator74's custom debloated V20L Rom and have no problems with battery in standby (overnight it only looses 2 to 3%)
and under normal use during the day I admit battery life is not outstanding but I do manage to get through the day.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
Stransky said:
@speedingcheetah
Hi
I have a V10 H901 running Eliminator74's custom debloated V20L Rom and have no problems with battery in standby (overnight it only looses 2 to 3%)
and under normal use during the day I admit battery life is not outstanding but I do manage to get through the day.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
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yea....like i said....mine used to be like that...but recently...the phone hates me. Moto X pure is more than 2x the battery life. Been off charger since yesterday evening...still says 1 day 1hr left. Same normal apps installed and active.
YEAH! We want custom roms, Mods, tweaks, etc! This phone is extremely great!
I cannot promise anything due to work taking up time, life, etc...
But I really want to get xposed working on Nougat, and it doesn't seem terribly difficult with what I saw put up on github recently. That's going to be my first pet project. I haven't messed with this stuff in a few years though, so will have to shake off some rust. If I get it done... it will go up here! lol It's way more for me (I love xposed) then anyone else, but if I get it working why not share with the class!
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I cannot promise anything due to work taking up time, life, etc...
But I really want to get xposed working on Nougat, and it doesn't seem terribly difficult with what I saw put up on github recently. That's going to be my first pet project. I haven't messed with this stuff in a few years though, so will have to shake off some rust. If I get it done... it will go up here! lol It's way more for me (I love xposed) then anyone else, but if I get it working why not share with the class!
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https://www.androidsage.com/2017/07/20/install-xposed-for-nougat-downloads/
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https://www.androidsage.com/2017/07/20/install-xposed-for-nougat-downloads/
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I tried last night. It wouldn't boot. Most likely needs an aosp rom to work.
speedingcheetah said:
yea....like i said....mine used to be like that...but recently...the phone hates me. Moto X pure is more than 2x the battery life. Been off charger since yesterday evening...still says 1 day 1hr left. Same normal apps installed and active.
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I got the same problem, Battery life used to be good and all of a sudden it dropped drastically, Hate to see no updates from LG Tmobile, I think the problem is with the android system itself sucking the battery. New battery didn't help. I tried go launcher and it seems to be better ,, so I doubt the launcher is eating up every bit of battery. you could try different launchers and check if that is the issue. ( screen consuming all the battery )
But cant wait to update to nougat. so finally here at xda forums. Awesome folks here!!!
Any idea on how to root h901 running Nougat 7
yes to this thread, please build a stable lineage version for the h901 v10.
How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
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I received March security update on March 14th on my A52s. I see no performance, battery or any other issues.
Anyway if Samsung messed with software on purpose i doubt all those users would go and buy newer Samsung phone again. It's a reach..
A52s is a better device anyway with 778G instead of that Exynos. And it has 3.5mm jack.
Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
Gaga Kanasta said:
Well,my a52 became laggy.Don't know is it because of samsung updates or intalled/uninstalled apps during time or some google bul***** but it happened with every midrange I bought in the past...
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Well A52 has way slower CPU and i would advise against updating to newer Android on midrange phones anyway. Updating definitely does slow down phones, but it's not like Samsung is doing it on purpose..
Xiaomi for example isn't updating mid range phones to android 12, but instead offering new MIUI 13 coupled with Android 11. Samsung should start doing something like this.
Similar is with Windows i have couple of older machines that work great on 7, fast and snappy, but on 10 or 11 are just unusable.
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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Then i don't know i honestly don't have a problem. Did you try clearing cache from recovery, that's something i usually do every time i do a major update to newer version.
I believe it's possible to downgrade with Odin yes. Tutorial
When i bought A52s i instantly got the oneui 4 update and updated so i really can't compare it if it would work faster on oneui 3.
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Look like this article is outdated (can't see when it was written) as I got Android 12 with March security update and no issue at all for what I know and feel...
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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How could you miss it? It was written yesterday. You can see it below the writer name near the picture
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It was updated yesterday, article is older, from 3-4 weeks ago if i remember correctly..
EDIT: now it seems they merged it into a new article..
Gaga Kanasta said:
I have a52s,my mistake I hope that one ui 4.1 will improve laggy animations and won't update my phone anymore...I have one question,is it possible to downgrade android and oneui to a11 and latest version of one ui 3 before a12?I have flashed via Odin last time I had Samsung but that was 5-6 years ago when I had a5...
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I patched the ap tar from the last 11 A528B firmware. Did an install of the patched ap, cp, bl, and the csc tar not home one. Presto i had 11 on phone rooted. Used zygisk and safety fix 2.2.1 and lposed zygisk and all is good. Firefds R and GravityBox R working great....so yes you can go back to 11 and I am fine with the dec security patch.
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How do you feel about your A53s 5G? Anything in this article ring true for you?
Is Samsung messing up the Galaxy A52s to sell the Galaxy A53?
Samsung is doing a pretty stellar job with its firmware updates lately. Then again, nothing is perfect. And although the ...
www.sammobile.com
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Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
doubledragon5 said:
Did Apple not get sued, for doing something like this.. They made the phones batteries go south, just so people would buy a new one.. I'm planning dumping this phone by the end of next month.. I'm not sure what I'm getting but it will not be a A53.
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Not exactly like that:
Apple temporarily drops price of iPhone battery replacement, promises iOS update to address battery health in new apology
Apple today published an open letter on its website apologizing for how it handled performance on iPhones with older batteries,...
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in the end OneUI is just android and we know android updates are always a joke, see Pixel 6/Pro, Oxygen/ColorOS, MIUI and etc...
I've had no significant issues with my A52s after any of the updates, just the odd bug/glitch. I wonder how much of this is down to individual apps not behaving nicely with the update, giving the impression that the problem is with Samsung's software.