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im on a rooted phone. on accasion, i experience lags on my phone.. its annoying.. how do i eliminate them?
Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
Are there any specific situations that are lagging?
Well it depends on the parts of the phone. So many things cause lag.
First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
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Are there any specific situations that are lagging?
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i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
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First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
NOT !!! if i do that, my battery drains big time, i aint gonna do that.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
this is exactly what i do. i kill apps in task manager. and i also got advanced task manager installed.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
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i wish there was a way to check for that.
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I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
binlad said:
its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
i wish there was a way to check for that.
i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. Not to mention there are is alot less going on inside IOS then there is on android. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
If you need proof check out http://ipod.about.com/od/decidingwhichipodtobuy/a/iphone_chart.htm that compares og iphone with all others and see how the features and chips etc have changed...and that's in an iphone which is not as advanced as its similar priced android rivals yet iphone performance for newer handsets is worse than original even with faster cpu.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Couldn't agree more
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
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1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
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no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
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A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
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thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
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exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
mistermentality said:
Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
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i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
binlad said:
its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources. Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
Try rebooting. Always helps.
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
Dave
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zelendel said:
OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources.
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
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its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
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i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
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yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
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Try rebooting. Always helps.
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really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
mistermentality said:
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
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yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
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hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that. You UC the CPU and you should expect things to run slower.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
Some apps also start just because you change from wifi to 3G etc and again you can configure these apps in the same way.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
I love my android phone, I can watch a high def 3D movie on it while downloading isos or music and I can play games on it and do photo editing etcetera so I am biased toward it but ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
Dave
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
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how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
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no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
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you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) can you list a few cryogen roms that are best for battery and performance?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that.
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no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
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you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
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exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
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i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
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Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
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i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
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and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
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i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
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its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
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i totally agree.
binlad said:
how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) which is better? miui or cryogen?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
i totally agree.
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Android copied IOS? Really please do tell me how? Mainly as IOS took things from android like the notifications system. As for MIUI I explained in your other thread about why. I really think you need to do a little bit more research on what your doing. The questions you are asking about installing apps is android 101.
Now After Selling cellphone and plans for the past 10 years I think I know what sells an OS and what doesnt.
You are not correcting me. You have shown me no proof about IOS. You can say its better and I can say its not. It is all about what someone wants and needs. Like I have an old 4G that my GF used as a starter smartphone that lags and sits in a drawer. No OS is perfect so there is no point in arguing about it.
Your right my phone doesnt lag due to being sense less. Not to mention over clocked to 1.2 with 30 hr battery life.
As for what are the pros and cons of each. There are many to each. Doing some research will give you all the info you know.
Now you really seem not to like Android and will never be happy with it. Nothing anyone can do or say will be able to make you happy.
Remember this is a development site so you are expected to put in a little work, like search and reading. No I will not link you to themes that are easy to find. We dont spoonfeed here.
As for me comparing the cars to the OS it is very accurate. Android is made to be tweaked and messed with. If you cant see the diff then I am sorry. Trying to insult people is really kinda pointless. Mainly when your the one asking for help. Let alone insulting someone that has been modding phones long before you knew what modding a phone was.
As for installing other OS on android. The simple answer is no. The only phone that can dual boot Different OS is the HD2 and other WM devices that can boot android.
So here is what I will say. Try them all out and make up your own mind. Now one will be able to tell you what you like and what will work best for you. Android is about tweaking and making it your own.
Buy an iPhone and stop playing dumb. You clearly do not understand, and do not want understand a single thing.
Hi guys,
I just bought my Xperia S two days ago outright and unlocked. ($484AUD from JB HI FI for you Aussies reading). My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy S back in 2010. I loved that phone - I flashed custom roms, customised the crap out of it, and all that. At the end of 2010, my company gave me an iPhone4 and I was required to use that exclusively - so I sold my Galaxy S on eBay. I've been using the iPhone4 ever since that point, but I missed my Android experience so much that I spent my money on the Xperia S just two days ago.
The reason I purchased the Xperia S is because I really dislike/despise Apple products, especially the iPhone.. Every time I looked at it I felt annoyed and disgusted by its lack of customisability and its lame user interface.
Having shared that with you, I'm having the following issue with the phone…
My graphics always seem to lag/chop/stutter when things are moving around. It's not fluid. This happens when:
• Swiping the lock icon to the right, on the homescreen. (it sorta micro-stutters at least once during the movement animation)
• When swiping through homescreens
• When scrolling up/down a menu (especially the settings menu in the browser).
• Scrolling or zooming in/out in the browser… its just not fluid at all, no matter how complex or basic the website is, flash or no flash.
It feels like CPU/GPU lag. Does anyone else have this issue? I'm pretty anal when it comes to seeing animations run smoothly so it's possible that it happens to all of you, but you just don’t perceive it or care about it -- or maybe its just my phone. I don’t know!
Also I notice that the touch responsiveness is delayed by about 100ms… Anyone else get that? (e.g. Load up the browser. Use your finger to swipe/scroll down the page, and see how there is a delay between when your finger moves and when the page moves.
I've read some people say that their browser runs "Buttery Smooth"… !! Mine is no where near smooth let buttery smooth!
I'm hoping that the coming ICS release will help with this issue, but I'm also surprised that I see no one else complaining about this graphics stuttering. I mean, my old Galaxy S in 2010 was smoother than this and it was only single-core at 1Ghz with 512 RAM.
Some technical details:
Batch: 12W19
Build: 6.0.A.3.73
I've uninstalled all the Sony bloatware that lets me uninstall.
I've tried without a live wallpaper
I've not tried any task killers.
I really like the quality of the screen and want to love the phone, but this speed/performance issue is really bumming me out ;/
So, do you 'xperience this too?
Thanks for your time,
Termus
Use it a few day and it'll stable than now! It's my experience with all Xperias like X10, Arc!
Or maybe try a factory reset and reboot the phone few times.
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Thanks guys, i'll give it some more time and reset it.
But i just wonder, is your browser experience nice and smooth? Maybe my hopes are too high, but i'd like to confirm them
Yes the browser and everything is smooth.
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Thanks guys, i'll give it some more time and reset it.
But i just wonder, is your browser experience nice and smooth? Maybe my hopes are too high, but i'd like to confirm them
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No mine is not, and I'm experiencing the same "all-around lag" that you see.
My device has locked bootloader (i'm waiting the ICS update to unlock it, especially coz I need to send it back to Sony due to the yellow tint display) and I hope ICS update will fix this horrible thing before the moment I'll choose to sell my device (really, I don't complain this things, coming from an early2011 SGS2).
PS. BTW I've got enough free ram to run everything smoothly, so it is not Sony-bloatware related.
Ok, while it's sad that you also experience this slowness it's good that someone else has 'fessed up to having it as well.
It makes me wonder... All of these devices are "made" the same, i.e. they have the same hardware. Why would some operate smoothly and others not? It's either that our devices are slow or the everyone else is in deep denial.
If the ICS update doesn't improve my handset's fluidity of graphics I'll probably sell it. I want my Android experience to be silky smooth, and if that's not possible yet, i'll just wait!
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Ok, while it's sad that you also experience this slowness it's good that someone else has 'fessed up to having it as well.
It makes me wonder... All of these devices are "made" the same, i.e. they have the same hardware. Why would some operate smoothly and others not? It's either that our devices are slow or the everyone else is in deep denial.
If the ICS update doesn't improve my handset's fluidity of graphics I'll probably sell it. I want my Android experience to be silky smooth, and if that's not possible yet, i'll just wait!
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This. Or they come from really lagghish terminals so we could have different ideas of what "smooth" could mean, but generally 70% doesn't admit the thing they bought is not as good as they think.
Maybe because you came from an iPhone which has pretty smooth animations compared to some Android phones. My iPod Touch feels slightly smoother than my Xperia S, albeit the slower scrolling.
i kinda forgot bout the stock rom experience, but i surely remember there's no such thing as the lockscreen's slider lag and touch responsiveness is delayed (and 100 ms? really? do you, yourself, have some measurement devices or something?)
now im in doomkernel and ka05.2 sspeed and all the things that u mentioned didnt happened. well, i maybe come from very-very-very-slow phone (LG GT540), but even my friend who has iphone 4s for awhile said that the animations and the smoothness in my phone (XS, ofc) is really smooth, almost the same as his iphone. even with some widgets here and there (his iphone doesnt have widgets, well duh!) and i feel the same too (but what do i know right?)
and he even likes it better browsing with phone rather than his iphone. though i gotta admit than i use the stock browser rarely, i usually use opera mini because of my crappy mobile network's speed. but they both works really well and smooth (pinching, zooming, scrolling)
but though i agree that smoothness is something that cant be measured, it's really objective thing, and maybe my friend just said that because of his kindness to not insult me or something, idk and i dont really care, for me it's just as smooth as his iphone.
so my verdict: your stock rom has issues (though most unlikely), the custom rom has some kind improvement (well ofc, but to have even lag in lockscreen it's kinda really bad for stock rom), there are some apps that make that lags in your rom, or you have faulty phone, you came from the future where everything is at light speed.
do u see the ics leaked video for XS? and how bout your gaming 'xperience?
Try installing MyPhoneExplorer on the phone and let the MyPhoneExplorer PC client monitor the cpu usage in realtime.
so when the lag happend, look at the pc monitor. does the cpu usage spike to 100%?
Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
Buttons are a getting used to thing.
I keep turning the phone over to make sure I have it on the right one.
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Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
I came from an iPhone5 went for an S4 then this. Never looking back.
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Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
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No knock off on AOSP
you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
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THIS! How would you compare your iPhone and your G2? Which one has the better sound with headphones? I mean, both set at the best settings you did on them. It is very important for me, as I can't decide between a G2, a Z1 and an iPhone 5S. I already own an iPhone 5. Had a lot of iPhones before though. I will even run the portable amp way witht them, I love my C&C BH and I love my ZO. :good:
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you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
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I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
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what site is that?
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what site is that?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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eh verizon....I'm running tmobile
Just give it a little more time. Cm11 is going to run very very well.
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I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
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Still having a little trouble typing it seems...
But I came from iOS. I just couldn't stand it anymore, and needed a new change of pace. I feel like I've missed so much by not being on Android for so long.
Thanks the input, hopefully Cyanogenmod 11 picks up quickly for the G2. It runs pretty well Android has come such a long way the thing that drives me crazy the most about this is the way the scrolling works in Android, iOS has absolutely wonderful scrolling, elastic, and consistent. Flicks on Android are choppy in apps at times and not consistent on how it scrolls. SMS and iMessages sent a little quicker and more consistent as well but that's not a big deal. Miss iTunes a bit for music management too idk how to get my Recently Added playlist onto my device which I locally store all of the songs on it.
Also blows my mind but Google images when you scroll through is extremely laggy! Probably the most lag I've seen anywhere on the phone. You would think being their own website and me using Chrome that wouldn't happen haha.
That said Android is a beautiful OS, way more entertaining and options than iOS. Let's see if I can get used to it I have until January 15th I can get a full refund if I want to.
Not long ago, I was cleaning out my garage and checking out some old PCs, trying to clean up the harddrives before recycling.
The damn Windows Me was sure running "fast like hell". ... simple OS does run faster .. even on crappy HW.
(one thought crossed my mind ... how crazily-fast it would run on my current kick-ass HW ?)
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By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way?
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I agree... However, I cannot cope with the limits of iOS, so I keep picking android phones.
I recently upgraded to the Pac-man LP rom, and while it's fairly stable with only a few bugs, the performance leaves much to be desired. Opening facebook can take up to 10 seconds, switching apps is sometimes several seconds. opening up Audible also could take 5-7 seconds.
This isn't the case for all apps of course, but still.. it's unacceptable.
I had CM 10.2.1 before and it was OK but the limit on storage was awful. With the MDMower TWRP, i now have 4 gigs to play with so at least I can install some apps, but I'd like a happy medium. something that performs well while taking advantage of the larger partition.
would CM11 be a good choice? something else I havent looked into?
bugs like 'camera not working' or 'phone not working' are immediate non-starters since this is (still) my daily phone
thanks!
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I recently upgraded to the Pac-man LP rom, and while it's fairly stable with only a few bugs, the performance leaves much to be desired. Opening facebook can take up to 10 seconds, switching apps is sometimes several seconds. opening up Audible also could take 5-7 seconds.
This isn't the case for all apps of course, but still.. it's unacceptable.
I had CM 10.2.1 before and it was OK but the limit on storage was awful. With the MDMower TWRP, i now have 4 gigs to play with so at least I can install some apps, but I'd like a happy medium. something that performs well while taking advantage of the larger partition.
would CM11 be a good choice? something else I havent looked into?
bugs like 'camera not working' or 'phone not working' are immediate non-starters since this is (still) my daily phone
thanks!
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Oh man, what a terrible this it is to have to wait a couple of seconds for something on a phone built in 2012. Just an FYI check for my latest build today, should help with loading times.
haha - yeah I know, but the "simpler" roms out there .. even the stock one, work significantly faster. and yes, i'll definitely be getting the latest build - thanks Beeko
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haha - yeah I know, but the "simpler" roms out there .. even the stock one, work significantly faster. and yes, i'll definitely be getting the latest build - thanks Beeko
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You gotta remember too that with 5.0.X it was a huge UI overhaul with Material UI implemented, just like 4.0.X had a major UI overhaul. Now when 4.1.X came out it had huge speed improvements and was much smoother...so I'm hoping is the same for 5.1
Obviously running LP on our phones is gonna be somewhat slower. I figure it this way.. take a computer that came with windows xp on it and see how well it runs windows 8. The hardware is just not designed for it. I think our dev community has done a great job of keeping our phones in the loop as android has progressed. Two thumbs up to Mower, Beeko and all the rest involved! :good:
As far as best performing goes, I'd have to go with either Viper (which I think was ICS) or CM10.2.1 as of now. I do have hopes for 5.1 tho cause it made a huge difference on my tablet. Definitely an improvement from 5.0
Hi. I currently own Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 for more than a year and I thought its good time to change phone. As you can see, Im a person who buys budget phones. I was searching for my next budget phone and Motorola Moto E LTE got my attention. I couldnt find a better deal than this, so I thought before making a final decision I will ask some opinions from people who got this phone. So, what do you think of Moto E and can you recommend it? What are biggest disadvantages and hows the performance? I already know that lack of flashlight is big hit for me.
Well it's a hard question. On stock 5.0.2 (there is still no update in eu) performance is preatty bad. Sometimes it runs smooth but there are cases when it lags horrible. I don't know who even installed chrome on this phone: it is cleary unusable however I instaled lighting browser and it works fine.
I've bought this phone because I tought that it will be my first smartphone which will be runing fine out of the box without modifications and I'm disapionted now :/ There is update in US and it probably fixes some of performance issues but when it will be available in eu? We still don't know.
Of course there is some good things like:
- of course price
- build quality
- very fast gps
- decent screen for it's price
- great battery life (up to 7h of screen on time)
- almost clean android
- decent speaker
- sd card slot and enabled android's app to sd
- up to date cpu (bigger chance that it will get android m)
- lte
- big data partion (we get 5gb out of 8gb so I think that's good)
- good light sensor
- and I very like it's look (but it's my own preference)
and what is bad now:
- performance on 5.0.2
- there is no e-compas! (my xperia x8 had compas in 2010)
- no notification led (this is very annoying since moto display is too sensitive and ambient display works randomly)
- fornt camera (back one is decent but sometimes it can't focus well)
- lack of camera flash
- updates aren't so fast (at least in eu)
- miracast isn't working (because of only 2,4 ghz wifi)
- moto features aren't working well on 5.0.2, for exaple twist to turn on camera isn't working properly (after twist I feel the vibration but screen isn't turning on)
So would I buy it again?? I don't know, it's performance is really discapointing right now. I compared it to moto g on 4.4.4 (which should be slower because of 720p screen and slower cpu) and it was like day and night. G was way faster.
Thats a bummer. I thought it was very good for basic usage like messages and browser. I heard Android 5.0 had memory leaks, but from what youre saying performance is really bad here. Is it fixed in 5.1?
well for basic usage it can make a job, I discabled all moto services that you can discable in settings, installed nova launcher, lighting browser and it's somehow working. When it starts lags I clean my recent apps and it helps.
The phone is preatty good but it was relased in bad time, in days of probably the worst android relase, lollipop looks cool but it can't be as fast as kitkat :/
howerer when I compared it to my other firend's moto g on stock 5.0.2 they were running simmilar and he told me that he hasn't got issues with it (but he often clear recent apps so maybe thats the reason)
I belive that 5.1.1 will fix all the issues, we have to wait.
I would appreciate other people opinions.
just too good a phone at this price
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when i purchased it i dint have much expectations considering its cheap.but then as i am using it for over 2 months now ,i dont feel it as a cheap phone.it never hanged on me..not even once.though i have disabled quite a lot of stuff but thats fine...this is first phone i am running without rooting in last 5 years.and surprisingly i am not feeling need to .My battery lasts beyond 3 days and it runs fast enuf in comparison to my past phones which i had to root to make them usable(samsung s3 , s advance etc)
i wud say go fr it..5.1 update is sure to improve it further
When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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Well, I think it cant be worse than my current Galaxy Ace 2.