hey hi everyone, I'm gurwinder. i'm frm India. here in India online shopping websites have lured us for buying dell aero at very cheap prices, i think lot of people have bought it online. but now all of them are facing lots of problems due to this phone.
1.first of all this phone has locked access to everything we can download limited apps from Google market...yes android market because its not updated version, have 1.5 cupcake version and it doesn't allow system to be update...there is no option to download update to operating system in mobile. so it doesn't allow any root app like z4root or superoneclick to be downloaded from android market...neither we can download it on desktop and transfer it to phone...it is of no use because it is not allowed to be installed in phone..
2. we seriously want to upgrade the android operating system but cant do it..
3. there is a urgent to need to root this phone because we have very limited access to super rights.... it is like we are provided with a desktop as a guest account...
4.it keep on sending messages to some invisible number "for sure ISD" costing me 5 rupees. i cant stop it form doing it. it has one app named AT&T navigator, for sure this app has something to do with this messages sending. please help to as to how to stop it sending messages by its own
so i thought going online and asking for help form you guys....you guys are expert and i know you will surely help us
thanks...
Dell Aero
Hi Gurwinder,
Not going to the very technical details
1. Dell Aero is a customized feature phone.You need to contact provider to upgrade it.
2.Dont try to root it, it will disable the Android Market.
3.Try Advanced task blocker to block AT&T Navigator everytime you switch ON your phone.
(Having said so, I expect you have tried all other options of deleting ufilled contacts and master resettting.)
Also activate DND in your phone.
I am doubtful that even that would solve the problem.
4.Rooting can only be done by transmission rooting(I hope, am yet to try).
5.Since Dell has exitted from the mobile industry, so no use in breaking head with it, use it with whatever you get from android market.
I am an Android App developer and after breaking my head with it for over a week (I could have earned 10 times its cost), I come to the conclusion
no need to waste time on this crap.
If phone calls are not possible.Take out the Sim and use it as an ebook reader(QucikOffice).As a ebook reader, web browser (with the latest opera mini) and photoshop, still it is a good value for money.Buy a small nokia 808 phone costing Rs 800 (if u dont have any other phone), carry both in ur pocket and enjoy!!
Take out the ' made in china tag', it will appear costlier and robust.
Good apps for it:
1.MixZing music player (playes mpeg also)
2.Opera mini
3.Photoshop
4.Chess game
5Avg antivirus
6.Fx camera
7.chomp sms
8.Network speed
9.Battery
10.Barcode scanner
11.Wordholic reader
12.Advance task killer
Rest all good apps are already present, and andorid market is filled with junks.Still you need any app, then contact me I would rather develp one than searching in that junk store.
Regards
Koustuv
Root possible according to chinease, sms problem still persists
thanks Koustuv for this favor....actually after posting my problem everywhere on internet i got no reply and no help whatsoever, glad that at least one person replied and offered me to help...now koustuv let me explain the situation more clearly to you....
1. after buying this silly phone i have searched everywhere on internet so that i can troubleshoot this phone. 1 month continuously searching Chinese sites for help, i came to know that its operating system is "ophone" that is customized android made by some Chinese company and its version is 1.5. this crap phone was the result of collaboration of company named borqs and dell.
2. let me tell about sms problem. this silly phone keeps on sending messages to some international number which charges us 5 rs a message, which is quite annoying... as it eats up all the balance from the account without even telling anything....like as you told me to block some system apps, i have installed startup cleaner pro and blocked two system apps "at&t hot spots and at&t navigator" but it is of no use as sms problem is still pretty working ......this issue is escalated by some newzealender friend on my help question on dell forum too....he too have same issue.....however he made an interesting quote that he researched that this phone was sending message to scam number in bejing....
3. talking about rooting or removing system apps i came to know that after replacing su file it is possible to use root explorer and uninstall all that crap from phone...this information i collected from Chinese forums.check here...
OMS 1.5, the latest version of the Get Root permission
Source: Android Chinese network
New firmware OMS 1.5 1.5 O1 updated again, the original 1.5 firmware upgrade root privileges unavailable now update method still O1 through a PC connection, you can use this method of RootExplorer be achieved by replacing the su file.
The installation process is as follows
1, the install Belcara company produced USBLan driver
2, connected O1 to your computer, select debug mode automatically install the drivers
3, open the network connection, and will see a new local connection, the device named "Belcarra USB LAN LINK", set its IP to 192.168.100.1 subnet mask set to 255.255.255.0 (Description: This connection in every times the phone connected to the computer to select Debug to appear.)
Install OMS 1.5 SDK library, SDK libraries at your own download volume, online, before you install the SDK libraries need to install JAVA. (In fact, should be as long as the ADB relevant documents can be.)
5 su file to put the tools in the SDK package file folder (like me is: "D: \ Program Files \ OPhoneSDK_1.5.beta \ tools")
6, run cmd, enter the tools folder in the SDK package!
Run the following command, the red part:
set adbhost = 192.168.100.2
adb kill-server
adb start-server
adb devices / / if there is no display on the device, please repeat the above steps, equipment display please continue
adb root / / return restarting the adbd as root again perform the above steps
/ / Return the adbd is already running as root, please continue
adb push su / system / xbin
adb shell chmod 6755 / system / xbin / su 7 | / B, H1 \: A "a! L
adb shell sync
adb shell reboot
...see if we both can troubleshoot this phone and help millions like us facing problem due to this silly phone....
Nice exploration
Hi Gurwidner,
Have you tried yourself this rooting technique?
Can you please provide the related links ?
First I am concerned about the SMS bug, as that is the primary requirement to make this crap usable.
Let us see, also if you get any futher update, could you please keep this thread updated?
Thanks and Regards
Koustuv
koustuv said:
Hi Gurwidner,
Have you tried yourself this rooting technique?
Can you please provide the related links ?
First I am concerned about the SMS bug, as that is the primary requirement to make this crap usable.
Let us see, also if you get any futher update, could you please keep this thread updated?
Thanks and Regards
Koustuv
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yeah I'm continuously checking every resource, every information on internet to troubleshoot this phone. My first priority is to remove that sms problem too. i haven't tried this rooting technique. first I'm making sure that i read each and every article about dell aero on internet because I'm more electronics field guy so dont know much about android programming and all...I'm checking all the Chinese pages (which i can search) for references so that i wont do any mistake and make my phone a brick...lol...My troubleshoot process should be fool proof.:fingers-crossed:.of-course I'll keep this thread updated as i can feel the pain which must be felt by hundreds of them who bought this phone....i'm new user so xda doesn't allow me to post links I'll try to send message of those links....work with me to troubleshoot this piece of ****....:highfive:
Really Disappointed
Hi ,
Recently ,I bought this phone and i am also on same boat as you people are discussing in here .Even I Send a Email to dell India regarding the problems and received a Insane message reply from Dell India .
" Dear Customer
This is to inform you that your phone carries AT&T warranty which is out of country phones hence would request you to get in touch with the dealer where you have purchased as we cannot support on this
Regards
Sowmya"
Now i am really disappointed with this phone and want to get Rid of these problems.
Is it possible to install Android version 2.2 through Flash installation and deleting the previous installation provided by Dell
Take care
Nagi
Some of the working solutions
Hi
1.First of all note that this Rs 5 deduction problem is not related to AT&T navigator, or any visible application eg gps or even your messaging app.
2.I am looking for a solution but I am unable to fix this as yet.
3.Till then, you can use your phone by
i) keeping balance less than Rs 5
ii) using minutes plan or some voucher to provide you call a min per paise instead of ruppes
iii) u can keep recharge voucher handy (or scratch their code and save somewhere in phone),and when you need to call for more minutes, use them.
iv) you can request your service provider to block your sms to that number or infact block all outgoing sms.
v) you can set your sms service number from some other phone to a very large number which renders it incorrect and block your sms application itself.
But friend none of this is a solution. I am afraid, I wont be able to get this bug corrected without any technical support from the manufacturers.
There are some attempts to root it,flash it, but there has not been achieved any success in this regard.So if you are not a geek dont try all those methods you will lose even whatever functionality you have in you phone.
As of now I can help only this much.But if anybody has any other point or method, then please let me know.
Thanks and regards
Koustuv
deepnagi said:
Hi ,
Recently ,I bought this phone and i am also on same boat as you people are discussing in here .Even I Send a Email to dell India regarding the problems and received a Insane message reply from Dell India .
" Dear Customer
This is to inform you that your phone carries AT&T warranty which is out of country phones hence would request you to get in touch with the dealer where you have purchased as we cannot support on this
Regards
Sowmya"
Now i am really disappointed with this phone and want to get Rid of these problems.
Is it possible to install Android version 2.2 through Flash installation and deleting the previous installation provided by Dell
Take care
Nagi
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HI Nagi,
I can feel your pain as I'm also the proud owner of this phone. there is no point that at&t or dell is going to help us because this phone is bought by these Indian sellers from china at throwaway prices and they sold it to us at huge profit. this phone was discontinued by dell way back 2009 or something but they still had stock of this phone which was unsold so they decided to sell it very cheap....now here gain is for these sellers who sold it to us and now they don't even know how to troubleshoot this phone's problems and we are at losing end, who bought this phone.....now don't worry I'm working on this phone since 1 month to troubleshoot..i think i'm very close..but i still have some software drivers and dell aero ROM 2.2 to be downloaded once i downloaded this stuff i will post the detail procedure to correct this phone....till den take care :good:
Hi Gurwinder
Hi Gurwinder,
You are saying that you are close to sloving the issue? Have you been able to root it? Could you please keep us updated, what you are doing
so that we dont repeat a mistake.
The first thing is are you able to root it?
Regards
Koustv
Atlast, Find a solution to save 5 Rs
Hi Gurwinder,
I Come up with a Great idea and that's really work to save 5 Rs From [email protected]*k Chinese Mafia ,who had installed a Malware in these creepy Dell Phones .
The Idea that come into my mind was to change the SMS reply center Number ,that each mobile operator install in their sims to send SMS to Central SMS center ,Changing the number through Dell phone was difficult, as these phones ROM are Custom Designed ,So what i did ,i replaced my Vodafone sim into a cheap java handset ,and in that phone went into message setting and replacing SMS center Number +919811009998 to +91981100 .Save the Setting
After that ,I placed the sim Back into dell Aero ,and tried to send the message to any of my contact .SMS Doesn't gone through ,This Idea is really a Manna from heaven for me and also for other Dell aero user facing same problem .
Advantage is that you are able to receive SMS & Disadvantage SMS will not go through your Phone ,But saving 20RS/day on unknown SMS will override the Disadvantage ,:laugh:
Until then , You people ,Keep on working with software problem and Please come up with a Reasonable solution
Take Care
Singh Nagi
yeah sucess is near
hi koustuv,
I'm not going to root this phone now firstly i will try to put original factory ROM on this phone (not AT&T customized one). i have read on various forums that this Factory ROM doesn't have those ****ing AT&T restrictions and that SMS bug, so yeah i have downloaded the FIREBOLT software used to put ROM on this phone. now problem is that i have windows 7 but i need windows xp for my phone to be detected in this software . i have also got the Factory ROM downloaded from internet. earlier i was searching for firebolt windows 7 drivers on borqs website but didn't find there nor it is available on any Chinese or Spanish forums. so finally i have decided to arrange windows xp from somewhere....don't worry this process is error free as lots of Chinese and Spanish guys have tested and tried this process as they have posted detailed procedure on those fourms....:good:
cheers bro.....
hi deepnagi.
thanks so very much for your idea. i think this idea is going to save lot of hard earned money of us and will stop sending sms to those ****ing scamsters.....what an idea sir ji....:victory:
what is the process ???
gurbagri said:
hi deepnagi.
thanks so very much for your idea. i think this idea is going to save lot of hard earned money of us and will stop sending sms to those ****ing scamsters.....what an idea sir ji....:victory:
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Hi Gurbagri ,
Now ,I am using the Phone for last 2-3 days without any Problem of spending the money out of my pocket to those Scoundrels (Chinese Mafia) in form of SMS
Could you please let us know ,what is the Method of Flashing the ROM of this Phone using the Software that you discussed earlier .I do have XP windows on my Laptop ,so from where to download copy of Android 2.2 copy ? , and how to connect the phone in Installing mode to install the original version of Android ?
Actually ,I need to install some Software from 3 party Vendor and this phone is programmed to restrict other software out of Android market ,
Skype is not in Android Market ,it's So pathetic ,A Common and well renowned communication software not in this phone Android market .
Anyway ,Please Do reply the method to install ,As i am not a Tech Guy and i don't have a knowledge for installing process .
Regards
Deepnagi
deepnagi said:
Hi Gurbagri ,
Now ,I am using the Phone for last 2-3 days without any Problem of spending the money out of my pocket to those Scoundrels (Chinese Mafia) in form of SMS
Could you please let us know ,what is the Method of Flashing the ROM of this Phone using the Software that you discussed earlier .I do have XP windows on my Laptop ,so from where to download copy of Android 2.2 copy ? , and how to connect the phone in Installing mode to install the original version of Android ?
Actually ,I need to install some Software from 3 party Vendor and this phone is programmed to restrict other software out of Android market ,
Skype is not in Android Market ,it's So pathetic ,A Common and well renowned communication software not in this phone Android market .
Anyway ,Please Do reply the method to install ,As i am not a Tech Guy and i don't have a knowledge for installing process .
Regards
Deepnagi
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Hey deepnagi i'm at work. I'll send u links once i'll be free....
thanks for solution
Hi Nagi,
Thank you very much for this solution. atleast now balance is not deducting.
i hv taken bsnl 3g for this phone. how can i set 3g internet on this? please help if you can?
thanks in advance!
deepnagi said:
Hi Gurwinder,
I Come up with a Great idea and that's really work to save 5 Rs From [email protected]*k Chinese Mafia ,who had installed a Malware in these creepy Dell Phones .
The Idea that come into my mind was to change the SMS reply center Number ,that each mobile operator install in their sims to send SMS to Central SMS center ,Changing the number through Dell phone was difficult, as these phones ROM are Custom Designed ,So what i did ,i replaced my Vodafone sim into a cheap java handset ,and in that phone went into message setting and replacing SMS center Number +919811009998 to +91981100 .Save the Setting
After that ,I placed the sim Back into dell Aero ,and tried to send the message to any of my contact .SMS Doesn't gone through ,This Idea is really a Manna from heaven for me and also for other Dell aero user facing same problem .
Advantage is that you are able to receive SMS & Disadvantage SMS will not go through your Phone ,But saving 20RS/day on unknown SMS will override the Disadvantage ,:laugh:
Until then , You people ,Keep on working with software problem and Please come up with a Reasonable solution
Take Care
Singh Nagi
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Hi Nagi,
Thank you very much for this solution. atleast now balance is not deducting.
i hv taken bsnl 3g for this phone. how can i set 3g internet on this? please help if you can?
thanks in advance!
deepnagi said:
Hi Gurwinder,
I Come up with a Great idea and that's really work to save 5 Rs From [email protected]*k Chinese Mafia ,who had installed a Malware in these creepy Dell Phones .
The Idea that come into my mind was to change the SMS reply center Number ,that each mobile operator install in their sims to send SMS to Central SMS center ,Changing the number through Dell phone was difficult, as these phones ROM are Custom Designed ,So what i did ,i replaced my Vodafone sim into a cheap java handset ,and in that phone went into message setting and replacing SMS center Number +919811009998 to +91981100 .Save the Setting
After that ,I placed the sim Back into dell Aero ,and tried to send the message to any of my contact .SMS Doesn't gone through ,This Idea is really a Manna from heaven for me and also for other Dell aero user facing same problem .
Advantage is that you are able to receive SMS & Disadvantage SMS will not go through your Phone ,But saving 20RS/day on unknown SMS will override the Disadvantage ,:laugh:
Until then , You people ,Keep on working with software problem and Please come up with a Reasonable solution
Take Care
Singh Nagi
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Glad To hear!!
[/COLOR]Hi Nagi,
Thank you very much for this solution. atleast now balance is not deducting.
i hv taken bsnl 3g for this phone. how can i set 3g internet on this? please help if you can?
thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Dear Hardeep,
That was nice, to hear from you that you are also free from the prejudice of Dell Mafia Group ,Who had already make a Ample amount of Money by selling the Chinese Phone ,and in contrast earning Money through a Daily SMS reply to some international number ,May be that SMS Number company is paying dell a commission for per SMS Received .
Anyway from now on ,we don't have to worry about SMS Problem..
Talking about the Internet Service ,Brother you had to update the Setting to use 3G connection ,I am sending you a Link just go through it and if doesn't work Call BSNL Customer care and ask for the Setting on Android .
bsnllive.info/howToaccess.html
Take care
Singh Nagi
can we install gingerbread to this device ?
not in this world...
there is no way in this world that makes it possible to install gingerbread on this piece of crap.i know it hurts but yes its true
gsmsikar said:
can we install gingerbread to this device ?
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please inform
have you been able to run 3g on bsnl with this phone ?...please inform so that this issue can be marked closed
hardeepbhare said:
Hi Nagi,
Thank you very much for this solution. atleast now balance is not deducting.
i hv taken bsnl 3g for this phone. how can i set 3g internet on this? please help if you can?
thanks in advance!
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Dell aero OS upload software
Dell aero uses Firebolt Software made by Borqs to upload operating system image on it or we can say put ROM on it. it is like the same as we install new windows on our pc's. here we use only windows CD to install OS on our computer hardware but in case of dell aero we need to use a software which helps us to put OS on phone hardware. now talking about Firebolt, getting Firebolt was not that easy i had to search whole lot of chinease websites to get it. it took me 15 days to locate a website from where i downloaded it. all of you guys annoyed with this silly phone dont worry there is a ray of hope that atleast we can remove that croupt OS with that international messages sending thing to a new fresh and clean ROM. however i am busy these days so today i will only put the Screenshots of Dell Aero in Flash mode and Firebolt software uploading ROM on Phone.
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