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Im in the market for a new phone.
Currently own a Xperia Z and a Nexus 7 (2013) combo. Cant decide whether to go for the Ultra or Z1.
Any ultra owners wished they went for the Z1 or are you happy with the ultra?
Happy with XZ ultra, I like the screen size good for gaming and watching movies on the go and having a phone at the same time.
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I don't know much about the Z1 (i havent bothered researching about it).. all i noticed is that it has a higher res camera and the rest is pretty much the same in the real wolrd...
I don't care much about a camera that is greater than 8mp.. and i am more inclined to a big screen phablet..
So XZU it is.. i'm just saving up on some cash right now to buy the LTE version.. hopefully I can complete it before end of month..
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The Z1 is as you mentioned above like a ZU in a smaller package, and the camera? Im not impressed at all..buy a camerahouse and some lenses if you do photography. And ZU costs only 75 cents more than the Z1..that's a hell of a lot more screen for that price!
I'm very happy with giant screen of ZU. I don't that I'll buy another device with smaller screen.
Better camera is a good plus but does not worth to change ZU.
I also love this very thin design.
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I have been a Z Ultra owner for 5 weeks and i also own an Xperia Z and a Nexus 7 2012 edition.
i would buy the Z Ultra, hands down no question. Why?
First of all, my Xperia Z and its 5 inch screen feels too small now, like tiny!! Crazy right, its 5 inches! haha.
On top of this, the Z Ultra is super fast and lag free, it makes my Nexus 7 feel like a huge step back when i use it.
Basically it combines all the best things from a tablet and a phone and puts them in to one amazing package. So yeah, buy the Ultra and do not look back, you will not regret it
1 last thing, it would appear from what i have seen that the Z1 has a worse screen than the Z Ultra. Looks to wash out more easily similar to the original Xperia Z.
ScottishSwan said:
I have been a Z Ultra owner for 5 weeks and i also own an Xperia Z and a Nexus 7 2012 edition.
i would buy the Z Ultra, hands down no question. Why?
First of all, my Xperia Z and its 5 inch screen feels too small now, like tiny!! Crazy right, its 5 inches! haha.
On top of this, the Z Ultra is super fast and lag free, it makes my Nexus 7 feel like a huge step back when i use it.
Basically it combines all the best things from a tablet and a phone and puts them in to one amazing package. So yeah, buy the Ultra and do not look back, you will not regret it
1 last thing, it would appear from what i have seen that the Z1 has a worse screen than the Z Ultra. Looks to wash out more easily similar to the original Xperia Z.
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Didn't realise the Z1s screen was worse than the Ultras. If thats the case it is an ultra for me. I don't care about the camera function on a phone.
Do you guys feel odd when you answer a call from the Ultra? This is my biggest concern although I will definitely buy the SBH52 when released to go with the ultra.
Ukbondraider said:
Didn't realise the Z1s screen was worse than the Ultras. If thats the case it is an ultra for me. I don't care about the camera function on a phone.
Do you guys feel odd when you answer a call from the Ultra? This is my biggest concern although I will definitely buy the SBH52 when released to go with the ultra.
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Eventually no, just put the phone on the side of your face and forget that it's bigger than average. It's nowhere as silly as sidetalking on nokia ngage (hmm old times).
Already have the SBH50 (preorder bonus) and it is nice to have, though putting my xzu inside a bag with only the bluetooth headset readily available is a very rare scenario for me. I keep my zu in pocket all the time.. Now I'm thinking whether its worth it to upgrade to SBH52...
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Personally, im leaning towards the z1.
Mainly due to the camera flash, as is really quite important to me.
The speaker is quite impotent to me to, so I'm hoping the z1 is better than zu.
I am still waiting to see the z1 zu and GN3 for myself in the shop before making any decisions.
Zu all the way. Nothing can beat the screen and yeah a 5inch screen is just way too small
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Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war
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Okay, WAREFAREONLY (LOL), I would pick the Ultra. The screen is huge and has way better viewing angles than the Z1 (Ultra uses an AH-IPS LCD while the Z1 uses a VA LCD) and therefore it's easier to use (browsing, gaming etc.), its design is much better than the Z1 (subjective) and it's so freaking thin. We got ROMs and the Z1 and Ultra share the same internals, so cross development is expected down the road, so it's all good in that department. The only negative aspects of it is the camera.
Z1: Chubby with a nice camera
Ultra: Anorexic with a bad camera
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warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Personally, this is how I see it from the XZU point of view.
1. Camera isn't an issue. For perfectly good quality pictures, use a decent third party app. OK, no flash is an issue if night pictures are required. Personally I've never seen the appeal of phone cameras... I'd always use an slr.
2. Yes, the z1 has more developers, but I guarantee we'll be getting those roms as pretty much direct ports.
3. Speakers on a phone have never been intended as anything other than for notifications. Headphones will always be needed for actual media unless you're a bit weird.
4. If you got the XZU, there's something in you that loves this screen. I've looked at all the other 5.8 inch and lower screens and they are far too small. This is a true phablet and makes media stand out by a mile. You won't get that many other places. Thats all this phone is really about.
Stick with XZU. No comparison.
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Stick with the Ultra.
My wife has the Z1 and I find the screen to small for my work. I have gotten used to carrying the Ultra now.
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
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Well.. you are only going to get a bias opinion from us. We are ultra owners.. so we obviously want the big screen.
I moved from the Galaxy S4 to the Ultra. Purely for the screen size.
I still had my S4 a few days ago, until i sold it. I picked it up to take some better images, but didn't want to use it. It has a better camera (like the Z1) but its just too small. In fact its bordering on ugly!
The Z1 is similar, but just to fat. Like Lord says.. I can't go to a fatter device, or a smaller device... The Ultra is for me! and I would think you would hate moving to a smaller device also.
Additionally @SpyderTracks makes a good point. I've made 3 posts in the app section regarding mods that were originated on the Z1, and will work for the ultra. So expect what ever happens with the Z1 to happen to the ultra.
Well, you decide whats better for you, but there are some facts and imprecision to revaluate in your points:
Z1 has not a better Rom, they have just updates at different stage.
Z1 has not a "tiny" screen, is a top huge smartphone sized for its class.
Ultra is +- 6mm thick
Z1 has not a better screen than Ultra
Ultra is more suitable for book reading too
Z1 has a better camera but now there is the option QX10 around: Ultra + QX10 = better camera than Z1, of course..for who dont care carrying much sized stuff outside.
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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coming from the note 2 to the ZUltra was worth it. I was playing with my note 2 and couldn't adjust to the small screen. Go big or go home xD
That's it, I'm sticking with the Ultra !
I just can't be separated from this huge, beautiful screen !
Thanks for your opinions guys ! Much appreciated
Or you could just get the best of both worlds
Walking around with nearly 1500 USD stuffed in my pockets is not really an option
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Same family so share! Solved.:highfive:
Or am I better off going with the OPO or something? Battery life and overall performance are most important to me, as well as updates and whatnot (I don't want any custom ROMs or anything).
Thanks
Battery life for my XZU has been pretty good, it has fast performance though I assume the OPO meets or surpasses both of those. The Xperia Z Ultra is more of a tablet that makes calls, while the OPO can go in more pockets. Both are getting 5.1.1 Android, Android M is unknown I think though for the XZU, it's from 2013 after all. I love mine though.
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If you excuse my stupid word play ..we can go ahead with the actual question...
I have a Z ULTRA. Totally love it.however, over a period, have started to hate the camera quality and the size is tad too uncomfortable.
So if i were to convince my dad and get a XA ULTRA, would it be too much to ask?
So would the XA ULTRA be a worthy upgrade? Or am I just moving horizontally ahead?
Also, the ROM scene doesn't look very good on the XA Ultra..will it pick up over time? Can we root it at least ?
Thanks a lot!
X0LARIUM said:
If you excuse my stupid word play ..we can go ahead with the actual question...
I have a Z ULTRA. Totally love it.however, over a period, have started to hate the camera quality and the size is tad too uncomfortable.
So if i were to convince my dad and get a XA ULTRA, would it be too much to ask?
So would the XA ULTRA be a worthy upgrade? Or am I just moving horizontally ahead?
Also, the ROM scene doesn't look very good on the XA Ultra..will it pick up over time? Can we root it at least ?
Thanks a lot!
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Well I'm rooted and running xposed. I also had a z ultra about two years ago. This phone runs fine to me no lag. Had it about 3 weeks now
X0LARIUM said:
If you excuse my stupid word play ..we can go ahead with the actual question...
I have a Z ULTRA. Totally love it.however, over a period, have started to hate the camera quality and the size is tad too uncomfortable.
So if i were to convince my dad and get a XA ULTRA, would it be too much to ask?
So would the XA ULTRA be a worthy upgrade? Or am I just moving horizontally ahead?
Also, the ROM scene doesn't look very good on the XA Ultra..will it pick up over time? Can we root it at least ?
Thanks a lot!
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Even the normal xa is a great device my advice go and try the xa ultra if possible you'll soon make your mind up. Yes it's quiet it's a new device don't expect as many custom roms as the z ultra had but then from previous experience I think modified stock is much better anyway Just make sure you get a xa ultra with a unlockable Bootloader if you want to root it which I'm guessing you do there is also no way to back up ta keys currently either on any of the x range its why I'm holding off rooting for a while certainly shouldn't believe everything bad you hear about the xperia x range I think it's some of there best yet despite what people say.
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THANks both you guys...My other alternative was the Lenovo Vibe Z2 PRO. I don't know but even though it was an old device, the specs still rock. What do you guys think? I have my Lumia 1520 as my second device. An XA Ultra will really complement the 1520?
I am getting a really good deal on my Z Ultra. And it is working absolutely fine. I am not a heavy user. Just a few apps like WhatsApp, Twitter, Snapchat etc. And a few games sometimes. I wanted to know if the XAU will be a total mess? I saw some comparison videos and looks about just as fast as the Z5 Premium.
So should I take the plunge?
You won't gain any performance as they perform the same if you benchmark. That's kind of bad that the XA Ultra does not perform better than the Z Ultra which is very old. The device does lag a little from time to time and smaller hickups can occur. In general it's pretty smooth but stutters here and there. That being said, they also failed on the battery life department on this phone. It's bad for a 6" phone.
Good points are screen and camera. They do not disappoint. Because of them I really like the phone. The camera in the Z Ultra is easily the worst I have ever had. That will be a huge upgrade.
You might want to consider the Xiaomi Mi Max if you want to stay with 6,44" but get a little smaller device anyway compared to the Z Ultra. It has a Snapdragon 650 and it outperforms the Mediatek in the XA Ultra. The Mi Max is a lot faster and smoother in everyday operation and battery life is totally amazing and crushes the XA Ultra battery life.
dannejanne said:
You won't gain any performance as they perform the same if you benchmark. That's kind of bad that the XA Ultra does not perform better than the Z Ultra which is very old. The device does lag a little from time to time and smaller hickups can occur. In general it's pretty smooth but stutters here and there. That being said, they also failed on the battery life department on this phone. It's bad for a 6" phone.
Good points are screen and camera. They do not disappoint. Because of them I really like the phone. The camera in the Z Ultra is easily the worst I have ever had. That will be a huge upgrade.
You might want to consider the Xiaomi Mi Max if you want to stay with 6,44" but get a little smaller device anyway compared to the Z Ultra. It has a Snapdragon 650 and it outperforms the Mediatek in the XA Ultra. The Mi Max is a lot faster and smoother in everyday operation and battery life is totally amazing and crushes the XA Ultra battery life.
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I am actually done with anything above 6". I was looking for a decent 6" and after seeing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDLtbJIOcaw
I am convinced XA is totally bang for the buck.
I am just waiting for developers to show some interest and get a couple of good ROMs.
Thanks!
Yeah it's a good phone. After all I'm using it and am happy
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I've gone from the Z Ultra to the XA Ultra, but not by choice - my beloved Z Ultra died.
I didn't find it an upgrade, I didn't even find it a horizontal move, I think the XA Ultra can't hold a candle to the good ol' Z Ultra. But it is a little bit smaller (albeit much thicker) and the camera is indeed incomparably better. So you may be happy with it.
Azra4 said:
I've gone from the Z Ultra to the XA Ultra, but not by choice - my beloved Z Ultra died.
I didn't find it an upgrade, I didn't even find it a horizontal move, I think the XA Ultra can't hold a candle to the good ol' Z Ultra. But it is a little bit smaller (albeit much thicker) and the camera is indeed incomparably better. So you may be happy with it.
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Your trying to compare a ex flagship(specs wise at least) with a midrange device. I went from midrange xperia to midrange xperia and consider the xa a big leap all round compared to older midrange devices.
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aidy.lucas said:
Your trying to compare a ex flagship(specs wise at least) with a midrange device. I went from midrange xperia to midrange xperia and consider the xa a big leap all round compared to older midrange devices.
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Guilty as charged, the Z Ultra spoiled me royally. But it was not just the specs, it was the execution that made the Z Ultra like no other phone.
Azra4 said:
Guilty as charged, the Z Ultra spoiled me royally. But it was not just the specs, it was the execution that made the Z Ultra like no other phone.
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It's a nice phone bit way too big for its screen size. Too big for phone usage. Great hardware though but oh my god that horrendous camera.
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dannejanne said:
It's a nice phone bit way too big for its screen size. Too big for phone usage. Great hardware though but oh my god that horrendous camera.
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Don't agree about the camera, the xa ultra has a larger camera than the xa so should be better. I've seen some good pictures taken with the xa+xa ultra on g+ and reddit, it's a massive improvement over previous midrange xperia devices in every way.
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Don't agree about the camera, the xa ultra has a larger camera than the xa so should be better. I've seen some good pictures taken with the xa+xa ultra on g+ and reddit, it's a massive improvement over previous midrange xperia devices in every way.
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Yeah I meant the camera in the Z Ultra. I find the camera in my XA Ultra to perform very well.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but XA Ultra isn't waterproof, right? That's is a spec that I look in a phone, and in a Sony should be standard at least at this level mid range...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but XA Ultra isn't waterproof, right? That's is a spec that I look in a phone, and in a Sony should be standard at least at this level mid range...
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No it isn't waterproof, only the xp and xz are waterproof
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So I have a question about the screen brightness even on lowest setting it's blinding in the dark, yes u have turned off auto brightness, live the phone I have cone from a 6s plus too
r8dooo said:
So I have a question about the screen brightness even on lowest setting it's blinding in the dark, yes u have turned off auto brightness, live the phone I have cone from a 6s plus too
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It's the latest firmware update that caused this. On previous firmware the minimum screen brightness was very very low. Quite the opposite now. It's so bright on lowest setting that I'm thinking of selling the phone as I can't use it without being blinded this time of the year here in Sweden where it's dark most of the day at winter.
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NO!!! Don't get yourself xa ultra, I always love Xperia and I convince my wife to get one and her phone after just a couple of months is completely rubbish, it lags a lot and battery life goes like from 100% to ZERO in about half an hour! I try the software repair a few times and all that stuff that Sony recommends on their support page and phone still a paperweight ( an expensive one). It works great for about 20 minutes then again the sluggish and the fast battery drain.
Hi. I would like to know if its worth it the extra cost to buy a z3
For those who owned both devices
How does the speaker quality compare?
Is it true that z2 has better screen with deeper blacks
How does battery life compare?
Z2 is better than z3
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Z2 is better than z3
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Why would you say that?
i had xperia Z,Z2,Z5 and now Xz all i can say is that for me the Z2 model was the best phone from Sony since z3 everything is going more or less downwards i dont like plain design of z3...Z2 has beter lookin speakear grills and also that led notification light is integrated in the speaker grill and it looks nice...as for the perfomance they are both almost same cuz they share same proc but Z3 has overclocked one...so about the screen and speakers ,ill say that z3 has better speakers and screen i know that cuz i tested with my friends z3 back then when i had z2...screen is brighter on z3 and also speakers have little bit punchier bass but the diferences are very small. cheers
Z2 outrun Z3 in several aspects,
Better battery;
Lower cost for nearly the same SoC and hardware;
Original OMNI design;
better speaker;
etc...
For a more general and objective comparasion please refer HERE.