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Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Okay, WAREFAREONLY (LOL), I would pick the Ultra. The screen is huge and has way better viewing angles than the Z1 (Ultra uses an AH-IPS LCD while the Z1 uses a VA LCD) and therefore it's easier to use (browsing, gaming etc.), its design is much better than the Z1 (subjective) and it's so freaking thin. We got ROMs and the Z1 and Ultra share the same internals, so cross development is expected down the road, so it's all good in that department. The only negative aspects of it is the camera.
Z1: Chubby with a nice camera
Ultra: Anorexic with a bad camera
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warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Personally, this is how I see it from the XZU point of view.
1. Camera isn't an issue. For perfectly good quality pictures, use a decent third party app. OK, no flash is an issue if night pictures are required. Personally I've never seen the appeal of phone cameras... I'd always use an slr.
2. Yes, the z1 has more developers, but I guarantee we'll be getting those roms as pretty much direct ports.
3. Speakers on a phone have never been intended as anything other than for notifications. Headphones will always be needed for actual media unless you're a bit weird.
4. If you got the XZU, there's something in you that loves this screen. I've looked at all the other 5.8 inch and lower screens and they are far too small. This is a true phablet and makes media stand out by a mile. You won't get that many other places. Thats all this phone is really about.
Stick with XZU. No comparison.
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Stick with the Ultra.
My wife has the Z1 and I find the screen to small for my work. I have gotten used to carrying the Ultra now.
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
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Well.. you are only going to get a bias opinion from us. We are ultra owners.. so we obviously want the big screen.
I moved from the Galaxy S4 to the Ultra. Purely for the screen size.
I still had my S4 a few days ago, until i sold it. I picked it up to take some better images, but didn't want to use it. It has a better camera (like the Z1) but its just too small. In fact its bordering on ugly!
The Z1 is similar, but just to fat. Like Lord says.. I can't go to a fatter device, or a smaller device... The Ultra is for me! and I would think you would hate moving to a smaller device also.
Additionally @SpyderTracks makes a good point. I've made 3 posts in the app section regarding mods that were originated on the Z1, and will work for the ultra. So expect what ever happens with the Z1 to happen to the ultra.
Well, you decide whats better for you, but there are some facts and imprecision to revaluate in your points:
Z1 has not a better Rom, they have just updates at different stage.
Z1 has not a "tiny" screen, is a top huge smartphone sized for its class.
Ultra is +- 6mm thick
Z1 has not a better screen than Ultra
Ultra is more suitable for book reading too
Z1 has a better camera but now there is the option QX10 around: Ultra + QX10 = better camera than Z1, of course..for who dont care carrying much sized stuff outside.
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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coming from the note 2 to the ZUltra was worth it. I was playing with my note 2 and couldn't adjust to the small screen. Go big or go home xD
That's it, I'm sticking with the Ultra !
I just can't be separated from this huge, beautiful screen !
Thanks for your opinions guys ! Much appreciated
Or you could just get the best of both worlds
Walking around with nearly 1500 USD stuffed in my pockets is not really an option
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Same family so share! Solved.:highfive:
Now that the Ultra LTE is finally available at the Sony Stores, there is only one question - should i get this or the Z1?
I cant decide. I really like this phone but the camera is sub par with no flash. The Z1 has a decent shooter, but the design is not so thin and the screen had some negative reviews. ohh and its 1.4" smaller
what do you guys say?
X1? Haha or you mean Z1
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soncarl said:
X1? Haha or you mean Z1
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lol yes, i meant z1
It really depends..overall Z1 is a better phone than the Z ultra. (unless the screen is as bad as some reviewers are saying..the screen on the z ultra is amazing)
If you like big screens than obviously Z ultra
If you take a lot of photos than obviously Z1
That's pretty much the difference between the two.
I had this same dilemma and chose Z ultra simply because I wanted a big (the biggest) screen and although the camera is not that great, it's okay because i don't take photos anyway.
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It really depends..overall Z1 is a better phone than the Z ultra. (unless the screen is as bad as some reviewers are saying..the screen on the z ultra is amazing)
If you like big screens than obviously Z ultra
If you take a lot of photos than obviously Z1
That's pretty much the difference between the two.
I had this same dilemma and chose Z ultra simply because I wanted a big (the biggest) screen and although the camera is not that great, it's okay because i don't take photos anyway.
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i guess thats the issue. although i dont take a lot of photos, but when i do, my cellphone is my main (and only) camera. lol
so i expect decent pictures. Ultra really fails at that, especially in low light
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i guess thats the issue. although i dont take a lot of photos, but when i do, my cellphone is my main (and only) camera. lol
so i expect decent pictures. Ultra really fails at that, especially in low light
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In decent lighting i think the z ultra is okay for the occasional shot. It's not THAT bad but yeah in low light it really suffers.
Same here, my phone is my only camera, but since I watch much more videos, play more games and browse the web far more often than i take photos, choosing the z utlra was a no brainer..
So I guess it depends on what you need most.
If only the z ultra had a good camera, it would be a perfect phone!
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In decent lighting i think the z ultra is okay for the occasional shot. It's not THAT bad but yeah in low light it really suffers.
Same here, my phone is my only camera, but since I watch much more videos, play more games and browse the web far more often than i take photos, choosing the z utlra was a no brainer..
So I guess it depends on what you need most.
If only the z ultra had a good camera, it would be a perfect phone!
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If the ultra had a good camera it would be as thick as a ****ty One Max and lose much of it's appeal.
I got both the Z1 and Z Ultra. If I had to chose I'd pick the ultra. It's just the best phone to work with in the whole world. Size is an issue but you can always manage somehow.
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If the ultra had a good camera it would be as thick as a ****ty One Max and much of it's appeal.
I got both the Z1 and Z Ultra. If I had to chose I'd pick the ultra. It's just the best phone to work with in the whole world. Size is an issue but you can always manage somehow.
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Yeah I agree one max is too thick. Stupid actually from HTC
Actually the Z ultra still fits in my jeans pocket so for me size is not so bad!
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Z1 is the better all round phone in my opinion. Z Ultra has the better and bigger screen, but sacrifices the camera and is less portable due to the size.
All smartphone cameras are terrible anyways when compared to a DSLR.
For me its all about the screen. Its large enough so that it can replace your tablet and forms your primary reading/media consumption device as well as phone.
Z1 is just another phone with an overrated camera.
Both cameras will be fine for social media/happy snaps.
YMMV.
Yep I agree, if camera is ok enough for social media sites, I'm a-ok with that! Hence, I decided to get the XZU. I'd rather have a unique looking phablet (in terms of size) that I can browse, read, text, call and take pics with.
I was in the same boat last week. I went with ZU because the extra screen estate was on top of my list. You need to sort out your priorities as well. For me, ZU replaced a 5 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet all together. So it was a no-brainer. I also considered z1 for its camera. Like someone else said, ZU camera is not bad at all and I never used flash to take low light pictures (it freaks people out and these cheap $1 flash on smartphones basically ruin lowlight pictures). To sum it up
For big screen, sleek profile, excellent display, tablet usage, decent camera - go for ZU. Get the Sony CP12 3000 mAh power cover and double up on battery life.
For compact size, excellent camera - go for z1.
Performance of both are pretty much the same.
So an update for the OP I looked at the Z1 in store and reviewer's were right. The Z1's screen is washed out when compared to the Z ultra's and the viewing angles are comparable to the original Z
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yeah i noticed the same.
I called all the sony stores in Toronto and NONE of them had the unlocked ZU in stock. Apparently they don't have stock :S
I may just order online from the sony store. Its weird how they have NO cases on the sony store website for the phone either.
all the cameras on cell phones to me are the same with the exception of the nokia lumia and HTC one because the yhave optical image stabilization. A sony store employee told me last week when choosing the Z1 or ZU that they don't have OIS because they sell the QX100 and QX 10.
Funny, probally everybody went trough this process. I also hesitated when I heard of the camera.
But this screen is awesome, its like having a new high end lcd tv. But the in your hand.
The device is very thin, it gives it a very sophisticated look. Because its so thin i've the feeling it makes the phone look smaller then it actually is. And as mentioned before in daylight pictures are ok. Pictures outside are just the same as any other phone. Actually a photo outside and subject closeby it makes very decent photos.
When people see me with the phone, they first make a joke or something. When i turn the screen on, they're openly asking themselves if they also should buy and then where they should put it
Let me tell u something in terms of picture quality. It os beaten by even the ipad and ipad mini. Video recording. Quality is pretty good. But this is the worst.shooter.
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Not a pro when taking photos. I take photos too but not too often, sometimes at daytime and seldom in the night. actually it's terrible at night. however, as i mentioned, I'm not a pro but for normal use, under normal, ISO and other adjustments would be better than auto. Just give a shot bro.
And for z1, i think camera is the only advantage.
Zu, fails for camera, but wins for all.
Cuz i like bigger screen and thinner body more than a camera which i could buy a real camera in the future.
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I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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Thank you! You think I should go with the Z2 and save a little extra cash?
Its honnestly worth it concidering they are simular
Z3 all it has is better camera, brighter backlight and slighly different design for almost %200 the price of Z2
I would take Z2 over Z3 if i was in your place
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso 12800 vs 6400. Also those high iso values are only available in auto mode and since that's the worst shooting mode on Sony smartphones, I'd say the 12800 thing is just a marketing gimmick. In manual mode both phones have a max iso option of 3200 and then only at 8mp. At full res, they both max out at 800 iso.
The z3 produces sharper photos at full res but as I understand it 4.4.2 has a focusing bug which Google fixed with 4.4.4. Sony obviously didn't compensate for this bug on their 4.4.2 firmware as others did. Also quite a few reviews have claimed the z2's camera to actually perform better especially in video recording. Z3 has a better mic though but the mic on the z2 is said to improve with 4.4.4.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
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In terms of ip rating, I doubt users will be able to tell the difference. The z2 survived 6 weeks in sea water. I think that should be fine for anyone lol
Is the z3 worth $150 more than z2? Emphatically NO! The most I'd pay extra for rounded sides and brighter display is maybe $40. That's being generous actually. I also prefer the colour calibration of z2's display. Much warmer than the colder z3.
The z2 has double tap to wake and will soon be on par softwarewise with the z3 once it gets the 4.4.4 update up to and including ps4 remote play.
My advice is wait for z4 in a few months but if you want to take the plunge now, go with z2. Z3 is over priced. It's in the same category of smartphone as z2,m8,s5 and g3 and it's price will drop in line with those soon enough.
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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zodiac100 said:
You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
Envious_Data said:
If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I dont know if the thread is over or not but id like to say that the Z2 is an excellant phone, i got mine a month ago, the display is sharp, it never lags and the battery life still amazes me, today I was travelling all day listening to music , playing games and taking photographs from 7:30 A.M and now at 8:00 its at 30%, it is still an excellant phone to this day and i would highly recommend it
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I would like to wait for the Z4, but isn't that going to end up being $700+ on launch?? I don't get phones on contract so that generally why i wanted to go with the Z2 in the first place, other than the fact that the Z3 isn't much of an upgrade over the Z2.
Looking to upgrade. Where is the community headed in regards to a successor?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/10/vivo-xplay-5s-4k-display-snapdragon-820/
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Waiting on zu2 no replacement out there to keep me happy
Maybe Huawei Mate 8
There is NO phone to replace the ZU right now.
Huawei devices are absolute crap:
Hard coded DPI in EMUI. Changing DPI breaks Icons and proper zoom functionality in some apps such as c't Magazin (German computer and technic magazine).
Nearly non existant support (at least in Europe). No answer to e-Mails.
No updates for european non-flagship models. Mostly, only the chinese models get updates on those phones.
Different models to keep an eye on not to buy the wrong one, especially here in Germany [mostly, LTE Band 20 (800 MHz) is not supported]
I got a Huawei MediaPad X2 for a week. Great Hardware, but stays on Android 5 (GEM-701L) stock ROM with ridiculous large 400 DPI, no AOSP custom ROM available. No answers from Huawei support about updates, hard to unlock Bootloader and so on... so I strongly suggest NOT to support such a crap company. Got a spare phone here (Huawei Ascent G620s), no updates, too. Stock Android 4.4. At least for that device CanogenMod 12.1 is available and working except of NFC.
The Lenovo Phab Plus seems OK, but with 2 GB of RAM you can stay at the ZU. It has a faster CPU of course, but only a faster CPU is no reason to spend 400 bucks. And it's not released in Europe as far as I know
No Sony ZU replacement sighted at the horizon, so I stay at the ZU.
Acer Predator 6?
I'm tired of waiting for Z Ultra successor so imma just get a smaller 5,7' phone and keep my Ultra at home as a wi-fi tablet ?
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Acer Predator 6?
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Only 6" Display
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/11/xperia-z5-ultra-listing-pops-indian-website.html
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http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/11/xperia-z5-ultra-listing-pops-indian-website.html
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Hurrah!
Sony Xperia C5 Ultra is a 6 inch device. It is powered by a Mediatek chip but the screen is beautiful and it has very thin bezel especially on the sides. And quite affordable. At least deserves a consideration IMHO.
The rumours on the Z5 Ultra say it'll come out in March 2016. Let's see, there were plenty of rumours on a Z4 Ultra and they amount to nothing. Besides, the thickness of the 6.4" phone is essential, a 8mm phone is too thick for me. Ideally, it should be 7mm or less.
Keeping my fingers crossed for a thin Z5 Ultra.
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paulotex said:
The rumours on the Z5 Ultra say it'll come out in March 2016. Let's see, there were plenty of rumours on a Z4 Ultra and they amount to nothing. Besides, the thickness of the 6.4" phone is essential, a 8mm phone is too thick for me. Ideally, it should be 7mm or less.
Keeping my fingers crossed for a thin Z5 Ultra.
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Another option would be a Z5 or Z6 Tablet Compact if Sony decides to include the ear speaker for the phone (the Z3 TC has the dialer but require a BT headset for calling since there's no ear speaker, only the loud speaker for other purposes).
I would love a Z5 or Z6 Ultra but based on rumors such as the Z3X, I wouldn't believe anything until there are leaked documents showing such a device at FCC. I have a nagging feeling of a Z5/6 Tablet Compact as a more probable product, i.e. that Sony simply merge the Ultra with the TC and therefore can reach two markets in one.
If they reduce the bezels on the sides and go for a C5 Ultra design, a new Tablet Compact would offer a width similar to the Ultra (with or without CP12 depending on exact solution chosen).
A Tablet Compact is perfectly fine as an Ultra replacement to me. I don't see any viable replacement in the market now but have 8 inch tablets on my radar since I have tried some of them and know that they are portable enough provided 16:9 screen.
Z Ultra replacement
The years go by and there's still no viable Z Ultra replacement on the market. The closest would be propably Z3 Tablet Compact but still, it's not the same, considering how pocketable and compact Z Ultra is for a small tablet. Z Ultra is very unique device, it's the only phone - tablet hybrid which is not enlarged smartphone, like Note series are or even huge P8 Max. So in other words, the best Z Ultra replacement is... another Z Ultra.
usarak said:
The years go by and there's still no viable Z Ultra replacement on the market. The closest would be propably Z3 Tablet Compact but still, it's not the same, considering how pocketable and compact Z Ultra is for a small tablet. Z Ultra is very unique device, it's the only phone - tablet hybrid which is not enlarged smartphone, like Note series are or even huge P8 Max. So in other words, the best Z Ultra replacement is... another Z Ultra.
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i guess Z5 Premium will do it for us, just a small tweak to reduce the dpi to 400dpi and we're all set. Not as spacious as Z Ultra admittedly but 5.5inch will be spacey enough.
hansip87 said:
i guess Z5 Premium will do it for us, just a small tweak to reduce the dpi to 400dpi and we're all set. Not as spacious as Z Ultra admittedly but 5.5inch will be spacey enough.
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Too small for me.
rickgillyon said:
Too small for me.
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Agreed, Z5 its pretty good in general but its too small to be considered as a replacememt for Z Ultra.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/antutu-leak-details-sonys-upcoming-xperia-z6-lineup/102465.html
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/antutu-leak-details-sonys-upcoming-xperia-z6-lineup/102465.html
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The Z6 Ultra looks promising. Let's wait and see...
I have 2 xperia ultra's and was also looking for an update, I got sick of waiting so went a bit smaller with the nexus 6 and 6p both are great and I don't really use the ultras anymore the 6p is actually my main phone and the nexus 6 my backup. I actually like the smaller sizes now. Just commenting in case it helps someone decide
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If you excuse my stupid word play ..we can go ahead with the actual question...
I have a Z ULTRA. Totally love it.however, over a period, have started to hate the camera quality and the size is tad too uncomfortable.
So if i were to convince my dad and get a XA ULTRA, would it be too much to ask?
So would the XA ULTRA be a worthy upgrade? Or am I just moving horizontally ahead?
Also, the ROM scene doesn't look very good on the XA Ultra..will it pick up over time? Can we root it at least ?
Thanks a lot!
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If you excuse my stupid word play ..we can go ahead with the actual question...
I have a Z ULTRA. Totally love it.however, over a period, have started to hate the camera quality and the size is tad too uncomfortable.
So if i were to convince my dad and get a XA ULTRA, would it be too much to ask?
So would the XA ULTRA be a worthy upgrade? Or am I just moving horizontally ahead?
Also, the ROM scene doesn't look very good on the XA Ultra..will it pick up over time? Can we root it at least ?
Thanks a lot!
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Well I'm rooted and running xposed. I also had a z ultra about two years ago. This phone runs fine to me no lag. Had it about 3 weeks now
X0LARIUM said:
If you excuse my stupid word play ..we can go ahead with the actual question...
I have a Z ULTRA. Totally love it.however, over a period, have started to hate the camera quality and the size is tad too uncomfortable.
So if i were to convince my dad and get a XA ULTRA, would it be too much to ask?
So would the XA ULTRA be a worthy upgrade? Or am I just moving horizontally ahead?
Also, the ROM scene doesn't look very good on the XA Ultra..will it pick up over time? Can we root it at least ?
Thanks a lot!
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Even the normal xa is a great device my advice go and try the xa ultra if possible you'll soon make your mind up. Yes it's quiet it's a new device don't expect as many custom roms as the z ultra had but then from previous experience I think modified stock is much better anyway Just make sure you get a xa ultra with a unlockable Bootloader if you want to root it which I'm guessing you do there is also no way to back up ta keys currently either on any of the x range its why I'm holding off rooting for a while certainly shouldn't believe everything bad you hear about the xperia x range I think it's some of there best yet despite what people say.
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THANks both you guys...My other alternative was the Lenovo Vibe Z2 PRO. I don't know but even though it was an old device, the specs still rock. What do you guys think? I have my Lumia 1520 as my second device. An XA Ultra will really complement the 1520?
I am getting a really good deal on my Z Ultra. And it is working absolutely fine. I am not a heavy user. Just a few apps like WhatsApp, Twitter, Snapchat etc. And a few games sometimes. I wanted to know if the XAU will be a total mess? I saw some comparison videos and looks about just as fast as the Z5 Premium.
So should I take the plunge?
You won't gain any performance as they perform the same if you benchmark. That's kind of bad that the XA Ultra does not perform better than the Z Ultra which is very old. The device does lag a little from time to time and smaller hickups can occur. In general it's pretty smooth but stutters here and there. That being said, they also failed on the battery life department on this phone. It's bad for a 6" phone.
Good points are screen and camera. They do not disappoint. Because of them I really like the phone. The camera in the Z Ultra is easily the worst I have ever had. That will be a huge upgrade.
You might want to consider the Xiaomi Mi Max if you want to stay with 6,44" but get a little smaller device anyway compared to the Z Ultra. It has a Snapdragon 650 and it outperforms the Mediatek in the XA Ultra. The Mi Max is a lot faster and smoother in everyday operation and battery life is totally amazing and crushes the XA Ultra battery life.
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You won't gain any performance as they perform the same if you benchmark. That's kind of bad that the XA Ultra does not perform better than the Z Ultra which is very old. The device does lag a little from time to time and smaller hickups can occur. In general it's pretty smooth but stutters here and there. That being said, they also failed on the battery life department on this phone. It's bad for a 6" phone.
Good points are screen and camera. They do not disappoint. Because of them I really like the phone. The camera in the Z Ultra is easily the worst I have ever had. That will be a huge upgrade.
You might want to consider the Xiaomi Mi Max if you want to stay with 6,44" but get a little smaller device anyway compared to the Z Ultra. It has a Snapdragon 650 and it outperforms the Mediatek in the XA Ultra. The Mi Max is a lot faster and smoother in everyday operation and battery life is totally amazing and crushes the XA Ultra battery life.
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I am actually done with anything above 6". I was looking for a decent 6" and after seeing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDLtbJIOcaw
I am convinced XA is totally bang for the buck.
I am just waiting for developers to show some interest and get a couple of good ROMs.
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Yeah it's a good phone. After all I'm using it and am happy
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Happy here too ?
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I've gone from the Z Ultra to the XA Ultra, but not by choice - my beloved Z Ultra died.
I didn't find it an upgrade, I didn't even find it a horizontal move, I think the XA Ultra can't hold a candle to the good ol' Z Ultra. But it is a little bit smaller (albeit much thicker) and the camera is indeed incomparably better. So you may be happy with it.
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I've gone from the Z Ultra to the XA Ultra, but not by choice - my beloved Z Ultra died.
I didn't find it an upgrade, I didn't even find it a horizontal move, I think the XA Ultra can't hold a candle to the good ol' Z Ultra. But it is a little bit smaller (albeit much thicker) and the camera is indeed incomparably better. So you may be happy with it.
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Your trying to compare a ex flagship(specs wise at least) with a midrange device. I went from midrange xperia to midrange xperia and consider the xa a big leap all round compared to older midrange devices.
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Your trying to compare a ex flagship(specs wise at least) with a midrange device. I went from midrange xperia to midrange xperia and consider the xa a big leap all round compared to older midrange devices.
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Guilty as charged, the Z Ultra spoiled me royally. But it was not just the specs, it was the execution that made the Z Ultra like no other phone.
Azra4 said:
Guilty as charged, the Z Ultra spoiled me royally. But it was not just the specs, it was the execution that made the Z Ultra like no other phone.
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It's a nice phone bit way too big for its screen size. Too big for phone usage. Great hardware though but oh my god that horrendous camera.
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dannejanne said:
It's a nice phone bit way too big for its screen size. Too big for phone usage. Great hardware though but oh my god that horrendous camera.
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Don't agree about the camera, the xa ultra has a larger camera than the xa so should be better. I've seen some good pictures taken with the xa+xa ultra on g+ and reddit, it's a massive improvement over previous midrange xperia devices in every way.
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Don't agree about the camera, the xa ultra has a larger camera than the xa so should be better. I've seen some good pictures taken with the xa+xa ultra on g+ and reddit, it's a massive improvement over previous midrange xperia devices in every way.
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Yeah I meant the camera in the Z Ultra. I find the camera in my XA Ultra to perform very well.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but XA Ultra isn't waterproof, right? That's is a spec that I look in a phone, and in a Sony should be standard at least at this level mid range...
danielvieira said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but XA Ultra isn't waterproof, right? That's is a spec that I look in a phone, and in a Sony should be standard at least at this level mid range...
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No it isn't waterproof, only the xp and xz are waterproof
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So I have a question about the screen brightness even on lowest setting it's blinding in the dark, yes u have turned off auto brightness, live the phone I have cone from a 6s plus too
r8dooo said:
So I have a question about the screen brightness even on lowest setting it's blinding in the dark, yes u have turned off auto brightness, live the phone I have cone from a 6s plus too
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It's the latest firmware update that caused this. On previous firmware the minimum screen brightness was very very low. Quite the opposite now. It's so bright on lowest setting that I'm thinking of selling the phone as I can't use it without being blinded this time of the year here in Sweden where it's dark most of the day at winter.
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NO!!! Don't get yourself xa ultra, I always love Xperia and I convince my wife to get one and her phone after just a couple of months is completely rubbish, it lags a lot and battery life goes like from 100% to ZERO in about half an hour! I try the software repair a few times and all that stuff that Sony recommends on their support page and phone still a paperweight ( an expensive one). It works great for about 20 minutes then again the sluggish and the fast battery drain.