I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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Thank you! You think I should go with the Z2 and save a little extra cash?
Its honnestly worth it concidering they are simular
Z3 all it has is better camera, brighter backlight and slighly different design for almost %200 the price of Z2
I would take Z2 over Z3 if i was in your place
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso 12800 vs 6400. Also those high iso values are only available in auto mode and since that's the worst shooting mode on Sony smartphones, I'd say the 12800 thing is just a marketing gimmick. In manual mode both phones have a max iso option of 3200 and then only at 8mp. At full res, they both max out at 800 iso.
The z3 produces sharper photos at full res but as I understand it 4.4.2 has a focusing bug which Google fixed with 4.4.4. Sony obviously didn't compensate for this bug on their 4.4.2 firmware as others did. Also quite a few reviews have claimed the z2's camera to actually perform better especially in video recording. Z3 has a better mic though but the mic on the z2 is said to improve with 4.4.4.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
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In terms of ip rating, I doubt users will be able to tell the difference. The z2 survived 6 weeks in sea water. I think that should be fine for anyone lol
Is the z3 worth $150 more than z2? Emphatically NO! The most I'd pay extra for rounded sides and brighter display is maybe $40. That's being generous actually. I also prefer the colour calibration of z2's display. Much warmer than the colder z3.
The z2 has double tap to wake and will soon be on par softwarewise with the z3 once it gets the 4.4.4 update up to and including ps4 remote play.
My advice is wait for z4 in a few months but if you want to take the plunge now, go with z2. Z3 is over priced. It's in the same category of smartphone as z2,m8,s5 and g3 and it's price will drop in line with those soon enough.
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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zodiac100 said:
You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
Envious_Data said:
If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I dont know if the thread is over or not but id like to say that the Z2 is an excellant phone, i got mine a month ago, the display is sharp, it never lags and the battery life still amazes me, today I was travelling all day listening to music , playing games and taking photographs from 7:30 A.M and now at 8:00 its at 30%, it is still an excellant phone to this day and i would highly recommend it
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I would like to wait for the Z4, but isn't that going to end up being $700+ on launch?? I don't get phones on contract so that generally why i wanted to go with the Z2 in the first place, other than the fact that the Z3 isn't much of an upgrade over the Z2.
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Im in the market for a new phone.
Currently own a Xperia Z and a Nexus 7 (2013) combo. Cant decide whether to go for the Ultra or Z1.
Any ultra owners wished they went for the Z1 or are you happy with the ultra?
Happy with XZ ultra, I like the screen size good for gaming and watching movies on the go and having a phone at the same time.
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I don't know much about the Z1 (i havent bothered researching about it).. all i noticed is that it has a higher res camera and the rest is pretty much the same in the real wolrd...
I don't care much about a camera that is greater than 8mp.. and i am more inclined to a big screen phablet..
So XZU it is.. i'm just saving up on some cash right now to buy the LTE version.. hopefully I can complete it before end of month..
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The Z1 is as you mentioned above like a ZU in a smaller package, and the camera? Im not impressed at all..buy a camerahouse and some lenses if you do photography. And ZU costs only 75 cents more than the Z1..that's a hell of a lot more screen for that price!
I'm very happy with giant screen of ZU. I don't that I'll buy another device with smaller screen.
Better camera is a good plus but does not worth to change ZU.
I also love this very thin design.
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I have been a Z Ultra owner for 5 weeks and i also own an Xperia Z and a Nexus 7 2012 edition.
i would buy the Z Ultra, hands down no question. Why?
First of all, my Xperia Z and its 5 inch screen feels too small now, like tiny!! Crazy right, its 5 inches! haha.
On top of this, the Z Ultra is super fast and lag free, it makes my Nexus 7 feel like a huge step back when i use it.
Basically it combines all the best things from a tablet and a phone and puts them in to one amazing package. So yeah, buy the Ultra and do not look back, you will not regret it
1 last thing, it would appear from what i have seen that the Z1 has a worse screen than the Z Ultra. Looks to wash out more easily similar to the original Xperia Z.
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I have been a Z Ultra owner for 5 weeks and i also own an Xperia Z and a Nexus 7 2012 edition.
i would buy the Z Ultra, hands down no question. Why?
First of all, my Xperia Z and its 5 inch screen feels too small now, like tiny!! Crazy right, its 5 inches! haha.
On top of this, the Z Ultra is super fast and lag free, it makes my Nexus 7 feel like a huge step back when i use it.
Basically it combines all the best things from a tablet and a phone and puts them in to one amazing package. So yeah, buy the Ultra and do not look back, you will not regret it
1 last thing, it would appear from what i have seen that the Z1 has a worse screen than the Z Ultra. Looks to wash out more easily similar to the original Xperia Z.
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Didn't realise the Z1s screen was worse than the Ultras. If thats the case it is an ultra for me. I don't care about the camera function on a phone.
Do you guys feel odd when you answer a call from the Ultra? This is my biggest concern although I will definitely buy the SBH52 when released to go with the ultra.
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Didn't realise the Z1s screen was worse than the Ultras. If thats the case it is an ultra for me. I don't care about the camera function on a phone.
Do you guys feel odd when you answer a call from the Ultra? This is my biggest concern although I will definitely buy the SBH52 when released to go with the ultra.
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Eventually no, just put the phone on the side of your face and forget that it's bigger than average. It's nowhere as silly as sidetalking on nokia ngage (hmm old times).
Already have the SBH50 (preorder bonus) and it is nice to have, though putting my xzu inside a bag with only the bluetooth headset readily available is a very rare scenario for me. I keep my zu in pocket all the time.. Now I'm thinking whether its worth it to upgrade to SBH52...
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Personally, im leaning towards the z1.
Mainly due to the camera flash, as is really quite important to me.
The speaker is quite impotent to me to, so I'm hoping the z1 is better than zu.
I am still waiting to see the z1 zu and GN3 for myself in the shop before making any decisions.
Zu all the way. Nothing can beat the screen and yeah a 5inch screen is just way too small
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Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Okay, WAREFAREONLY (LOL), I would pick the Ultra. The screen is huge and has way better viewing angles than the Z1 (Ultra uses an AH-IPS LCD while the Z1 uses a VA LCD) and therefore it's easier to use (browsing, gaming etc.), its design is much better than the Z1 (subjective) and it's so freaking thin. We got ROMs and the Z1 and Ultra share the same internals, so cross development is expected down the road, so it's all good in that department. The only negative aspects of it is the camera.
Z1: Chubby with a nice camera
Ultra: Anorexic with a bad camera
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warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Personally, this is how I see it from the XZU point of view.
1. Camera isn't an issue. For perfectly good quality pictures, use a decent third party app. OK, no flash is an issue if night pictures are required. Personally I've never seen the appeal of phone cameras... I'd always use an slr.
2. Yes, the z1 has more developers, but I guarantee we'll be getting those roms as pretty much direct ports.
3. Speakers on a phone have never been intended as anything other than for notifications. Headphones will always be needed for actual media unless you're a bit weird.
4. If you got the XZU, there's something in you that loves this screen. I've looked at all the other 5.8 inch and lower screens and they are far too small. This is a true phablet and makes media stand out by a mile. You won't get that many other places. Thats all this phone is really about.
Stick with XZU. No comparison.
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Stick with the Ultra.
My wife has the Z1 and I find the screen to small for my work. I have gotten used to carrying the Ultra now.
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
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Well.. you are only going to get a bias opinion from us. We are ultra owners.. so we obviously want the big screen.
I moved from the Galaxy S4 to the Ultra. Purely for the screen size.
I still had my S4 a few days ago, until i sold it. I picked it up to take some better images, but didn't want to use it. It has a better camera (like the Z1) but its just too small. In fact its bordering on ugly!
The Z1 is similar, but just to fat. Like Lord says.. I can't go to a fatter device, or a smaller device... The Ultra is for me! and I would think you would hate moving to a smaller device also.
Additionally @SpyderTracks makes a good point. I've made 3 posts in the app section regarding mods that were originated on the Z1, and will work for the ultra. So expect what ever happens with the Z1 to happen to the ultra.
Well, you decide whats better for you, but there are some facts and imprecision to revaluate in your points:
Z1 has not a better Rom, they have just updates at different stage.
Z1 has not a "tiny" screen, is a top huge smartphone sized for its class.
Ultra is +- 6mm thick
Z1 has not a better screen than Ultra
Ultra is more suitable for book reading too
Z1 has a better camera but now there is the option QX10 around: Ultra + QX10 = better camera than Z1, of course..for who dont care carrying much sized stuff outside.
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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coming from the note 2 to the ZUltra was worth it. I was playing with my note 2 and couldn't adjust to the small screen. Go big or go home xD
That's it, I'm sticking with the Ultra !
I just can't be separated from this huge, beautiful screen !
Thanks for your opinions guys ! Much appreciated
Or you could just get the best of both worlds
Walking around with nearly 1500 USD stuffed in my pockets is not really an option
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Same family so share! Solved.:highfive:
Now that the Ultra LTE is finally available at the Sony Stores, there is only one question - should i get this or the Z1?
I cant decide. I really like this phone but the camera is sub par with no flash. The Z1 has a decent shooter, but the design is not so thin and the screen had some negative reviews. ohh and its 1.4" smaller
what do you guys say?
X1? Haha or you mean Z1
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X1? Haha or you mean Z1
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lol yes, i meant z1
It really depends..overall Z1 is a better phone than the Z ultra. (unless the screen is as bad as some reviewers are saying..the screen on the z ultra is amazing)
If you like big screens than obviously Z ultra
If you take a lot of photos than obviously Z1
That's pretty much the difference between the two.
I had this same dilemma and chose Z ultra simply because I wanted a big (the biggest) screen and although the camera is not that great, it's okay because i don't take photos anyway.
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It really depends..overall Z1 is a better phone than the Z ultra. (unless the screen is as bad as some reviewers are saying..the screen on the z ultra is amazing)
If you like big screens than obviously Z ultra
If you take a lot of photos than obviously Z1
That's pretty much the difference between the two.
I had this same dilemma and chose Z ultra simply because I wanted a big (the biggest) screen and although the camera is not that great, it's okay because i don't take photos anyway.
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i guess thats the issue. although i dont take a lot of photos, but when i do, my cellphone is my main (and only) camera. lol
so i expect decent pictures. Ultra really fails at that, especially in low light
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i guess thats the issue. although i dont take a lot of photos, but when i do, my cellphone is my main (and only) camera. lol
so i expect decent pictures. Ultra really fails at that, especially in low light
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In decent lighting i think the z ultra is okay for the occasional shot. It's not THAT bad but yeah in low light it really suffers.
Same here, my phone is my only camera, but since I watch much more videos, play more games and browse the web far more often than i take photos, choosing the z utlra was a no brainer..
So I guess it depends on what you need most.
If only the z ultra had a good camera, it would be a perfect phone!
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In decent lighting i think the z ultra is okay for the occasional shot. It's not THAT bad but yeah in low light it really suffers.
Same here, my phone is my only camera, but since I watch much more videos, play more games and browse the web far more often than i take photos, choosing the z utlra was a no brainer..
So I guess it depends on what you need most.
If only the z ultra had a good camera, it would be a perfect phone!
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If the ultra had a good camera it would be as thick as a ****ty One Max and lose much of it's appeal.
I got both the Z1 and Z Ultra. If I had to chose I'd pick the ultra. It's just the best phone to work with in the whole world. Size is an issue but you can always manage somehow.
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If the ultra had a good camera it would be as thick as a ****ty One Max and much of it's appeal.
I got both the Z1 and Z Ultra. If I had to chose I'd pick the ultra. It's just the best phone to work with in the whole world. Size is an issue but you can always manage somehow.
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Yeah I agree one max is too thick. Stupid actually from HTC
Actually the Z ultra still fits in my jeans pocket so for me size is not so bad!
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Z1 is the better all round phone in my opinion. Z Ultra has the better and bigger screen, but sacrifices the camera and is less portable due to the size.
All smartphone cameras are terrible anyways when compared to a DSLR.
For me its all about the screen. Its large enough so that it can replace your tablet and forms your primary reading/media consumption device as well as phone.
Z1 is just another phone with an overrated camera.
Both cameras will be fine for social media/happy snaps.
YMMV.
Yep I agree, if camera is ok enough for social media sites, I'm a-ok with that! Hence, I decided to get the XZU. I'd rather have a unique looking phablet (in terms of size) that I can browse, read, text, call and take pics with.
I was in the same boat last week. I went with ZU because the extra screen estate was on top of my list. You need to sort out your priorities as well. For me, ZU replaced a 5 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet all together. So it was a no-brainer. I also considered z1 for its camera. Like someone else said, ZU camera is not bad at all and I never used flash to take low light pictures (it freaks people out and these cheap $1 flash on smartphones basically ruin lowlight pictures). To sum it up
For big screen, sleek profile, excellent display, tablet usage, decent camera - go for ZU. Get the Sony CP12 3000 mAh power cover and double up on battery life.
For compact size, excellent camera - go for z1.
Performance of both are pretty much the same.
So an update for the OP I looked at the Z1 in store and reviewer's were right. The Z1's screen is washed out when compared to the Z ultra's and the viewing angles are comparable to the original Z
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yeah i noticed the same.
I called all the sony stores in Toronto and NONE of them had the unlocked ZU in stock. Apparently they don't have stock :S
I may just order online from the sony store. Its weird how they have NO cases on the sony store website for the phone either.
all the cameras on cell phones to me are the same with the exception of the nokia lumia and HTC one because the yhave optical image stabilization. A sony store employee told me last week when choosing the Z1 or ZU that they don't have OIS because they sell the QX100 and QX 10.
Funny, probally everybody went trough this process. I also hesitated when I heard of the camera.
But this screen is awesome, its like having a new high end lcd tv. But the in your hand.
The device is very thin, it gives it a very sophisticated look. Because its so thin i've the feeling it makes the phone look smaller then it actually is. And as mentioned before in daylight pictures are ok. Pictures outside are just the same as any other phone. Actually a photo outside and subject closeby it makes very decent photos.
When people see me with the phone, they first make a joke or something. When i turn the screen on, they're openly asking themselves if they also should buy and then where they should put it
Let me tell u something in terms of picture quality. It os beaten by even the ipad and ipad mini. Video recording. Quality is pretty good. But this is the worst.shooter.
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Not a pro when taking photos. I take photos too but not too often, sometimes at daytime and seldom in the night. actually it's terrible at night. however, as i mentioned, I'm not a pro but for normal use, under normal, ISO and other adjustments would be better than auto. Just give a shot bro.
And for z1, i think camera is the only advantage.
Zu, fails for camera, but wins for all.
Cuz i like bigger screen and thinner body more than a camera which i could buy a real camera in the future.
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Hi all,
Just wondered what people's opinions are on upgrading from the Xperia Z3 compact to the Z5 Compact.
I generally keep my phones for 12 months then upgrade to get a decent resell value.
I love the Z3c and don't really want to go any bigger. Looking at the reviews the Z5c comes out as better value than the full size Z5, with almost identical hardware.
Any thoughts?
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Honestly, now its NO, but in month or two it just might be a YES. But keep tracking threads here to see general opinions.
Unless your waiting for the price to come down, I say buy! I also have the z3c but I feel the fingerprint scanner alone is worth the upgrade if you can handle it. The z5c has quick charging, a more powerful processor a more attractive build and improved speakers from what I gather. I was hesitant as well but actually because of things I read about performance problems but it seems there has been software updates to clean it up. Some say the Camara has a blurred edge at distance but honestly I could care less. Pictures for the Internet or the kids at events will be fine to take with this Camara and I'm not sure it's indicative of all units. I just ordered mine and can't wait! Remember Marshmallow hopefully in December!
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YesEvil said:
Hi all,
Just wondered what people's opinions are on upgrading from the Xperia Z3 compact to the Z5 Compact.
I generally keep my phones for 12 months then upgrade to get a decent resell value.
I love the Z3c and don't really want to go any bigger. Looking at the reviews the Z5c comes out as better value than the full size Z5, with almost identical hardware.
Any thoughts?
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I have upgraded from Z3c recently. After the latest software update, I can say that Z5c is better than Z3c in nearly every way. The battery life is a little worse but the camera is far better. The z5c is much better for gaming but there are occasional stutters in the UI. Once those are fixed, Z5c > Z3c
Speakers with clear audio turned on, are far better. And the fingerprint sensor is awesome. Plus, i LOVE the new back *_*
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I have upgraded from Z3c recently. After the latest software update, I can say that Z5c is better than Z3c in nearly every way. The battery life is a little worse but the camera is far better. The z5c is much better for gaming but there are occasional stutters in the UI. Once those are fixed, Z5c > Z3c
Speakers with clear audio turned on, are far better. And the fingerprint sensor is awesome. Plus, i LOVE the new back *_*
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What stutters do you still see?
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What stutters? I dont see any with new update...
A few here and there. I see them hardly nowadays except for when i tap on a contact in the contacts app. Does anyone else have this? Other than that, it's perfect. Getting better everyday in fact
I've upgraded from Z1c(and also own a S6). The battery performance is identical to Z1c, it won't be as good as Z3c but still good enough for one day normal use.
The screen is much better than Z1c(should little better than Z3c as well). The real major improvement comes from camera, the focus is incredible now about the same with S6 while I think the details remain the same level on Z1c, still not as nice as S6 though. BTW, they finally fixed the annoyed focus which is a big big big mile stone.
If you don't always shoot photo then I think no need to Z5c wait one more year until SD820 Z6c comes out because Z5c is very hot during heavy gaming or video recording. My S6 performs much cooler, not to mention my even cooler SD810 Z1c. SD820 speed is real quick, though a bit slower than Exynos 7420 but on a 720P screen, I think the smoothness is nearly same, noticeably faster than Z1c.
I won't upgrade from my z3c.
The screen is basically the same, and the z5c is not as beautiful.
The battery is better on the z3c, and I am currently happy with the camera but I know it can probably be better in certain conditions.
I don't miss the fingerprint scanner since the lockscreen is automatically triggered with my smartwach presence.
Oh and my z3c is fast as hell and do not heat.
I don't thing the extra cost with it for me.
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Sichroteph said:
I won't upgrade from my z3c.
The screen is basically the same, and the z5c is not as beautiful.
The battery is better on the z3c, and I am currently happy with the camera but I know it can probably be better in certain conditions.
I don't miss the fingerprint scanner since the lockscreen is automatically triggered with my smartwach presence.
Oh and my z3c is fast as hell and do not heat.
I don't thing the extra cost with it for me.
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I upgraded from z1 compact to z3 compact and was disappointed that nothing had improved. Now having upgraded from z3 compact to z5 compact and couldnt be more impressedimpressed.
1. Much better camera - video and pictures are great. Video is next to perfect!
2. The build and finish off the phone is impeccable. So nice in the hand.
3. The glass, front and back is 100% better. No finger prints on the back due to the frosting but the front glass is amazing! On the old z1 and z3 I had to wipe it all the time as the oil and prints from my fingers were always over it. (and I got super oily fingers) on the z5 compact it just stays clean! I never have to wipe it!
4. Screen viewing and brightness - on the z1 and z3 the white balance was easy off (blueish) on the z5-compact it's pretty spot on. The screen is also way brighter, I only need the brightness on about 25% most of the time and 50% - 70% in bright sunlight.
5. Speakers - 3x louder than the previous compacts and clearer.
6. Fingerprint sensor - works fast every time, all the time.
7. No stutters or lags ever with the 32.0.A.6.152 firmware.
8. Battery life - wasn't as good at first but once Google play services fix was applied and google chrome (merge tabs and apps) disabled, it's now the same as previous models.
9. I think many things will improve even further with the next firmware update and android 6.0.
Cheers mate
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I upgraded from z1 compact to z3 compact and was disappointed that nothing had improved. Now having upgraded from z3 compact to z5 compact and couldnt be more impressedimpressed.
1. Much better camera - video and pictures are great. Video is next to perfect!
2. The build and finish off the phone is impeccable. So nice in the hand.
3. The glass, front and back is 100% better. No finger prints on the back due to the frosting but the front glass is amazing! On the old z1 and z3 I had to wipe it all the time as the oil and prints from my fingers were always over it. (and I got super oily fingers) on the z5 compact it just stays clean! I never have to wipe it!
4. Screen viewing and brightness - on the z1 and z3 the white balance was easy off (blueish) on the z5-compact it's pretty spot on. The screen is also way brighter, I only need the brightness on about 25% most of the time and 50% - 70% in bright sunlight.
5. Speakers - 3x louder than the previous compacts and clearer.
6. Fingerprint sensor - works fast every time, all the time.
7. No stutters or lags ever with the 32.0.A.6.152 firmware.
8. Battery life - wasn't as good at first but once Google play services fix was applied and google chrome (merge tabs and apps) disabled, it's now the same as previous models.
9. I think many things will improve even further with the next firmware update and android 6.0.
Cheers mate
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Two of the annoyances I have with my z3c is the bluish screen and the speakers being low, especially in a call. I'm glad to see they have improved things that need improving and made pretty much everything else better. My z5c should be here early next week and I can't wait!
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Notchr302 said:
Two of the annoyances I have with my z3c is the bluish screen and the speakers being low, especially in a call. I'm glad to see they have improved things that need improving and made pretty much everything else better. My z5c should be here early next week and I can't wait!
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Honestly, you'll love it. My two previous compacts were black. I got the white now, it just oozes style, it's the bomb ?
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Honestly, you'll love it. My two previous compacts were black. I got the white now, it just oozes style, it's the bomb ?
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My previous one was white so I got black. Lol. I actually think it's more gunmetal color which I think I'll like. The white does look stylish though!
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Z5c ordered, hopefully here in a couple of days.
Thanks for all the input guys
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Mine is grey and it looks just *_* i'm loving this phone more and more and the camera is VERY impressive. Just the auto mode on 8 mp is enough for any shot. The best feature is that the exposure and saturation can be tweaked even in Superior Auto to get the best colours.
I would upgrade from my x3c in a heartbeat, but they dropped the aws 1700 band and that's what my carrier uses. reading this post makes me pissed that sony dropped the aws 1700 band.
oh well what to do.
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I would upgrade from my x3c in a heartbeat, but they dropped the aws 1700 band and that's what my carrier uses. reading this post makes me pissed that sony dropped the aws 1700 band.
oh well what to do.
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Is that the Tmobile band?
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T mobile now uses the 1700 for lte, im on wind in Canada and I need 1700 for hspda.
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8. Battery life - wasn't as good at first but once Google play services fix was applied and google chrome (merge tabs and apps) disabled, it's now the same as previous models.
Cheers mate
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Can you offer your GServiceFix patch?
TheEndHK said:
Can you offer your GServiceFix patch?
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Read the opening post. Download Gservicefix from play store
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
bye bye Sony
Very disappointed with Sony :crying:
Xz2 compact is not compact anymore. Thick (12mm), tall (135mm), no headphone jack, fingerprint reader on the back. What the f*ck is Sony doing?
The only fast compact device on the market is no more. Well, back to Samsung
NO, I'm really sad about this, but at least we have the XZ1 Compact to upgrade to, which seems like the best Compact they've ever made, basically updating SOC and better, matte, metal back/sides compared to the slippery, glossy sides we have on the X Compact...the lack of headphone jack and side fingerprint scanner on the XZ2's are really unfortunate changes imo
Kianush said:
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
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5" screen is not compact. I was already pushing my limits when I started with Z1c, (127mm tall), 4 years ago. I only upgraded to Z3c and Xc because they haven't gotten any bigger. I won't do 135mm..
No.
No. No real innovations, but it's gotten bigger and lost features like head phone jack and fingerprint on the side. The camera has to be on par with Samsung and iPhone to even consider the XZ2.
Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Yeah, for me after a lot of reading i just think xz1 is not worth the cost, xz2 compact is like a new model phone. I am just going to wait for xz3 or any other compact version.
My next phone will probably not be from Sony. If I convert to a "normal" size it doesn't have to be Sony anymore.