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GFE on Rooted Z3v 5.0.2?
Followed the guides for the Verizon Sony Xperia Z3v & managed to upgrade to Android 5.0.2 with root access. I was ecstatic until I was told by my IT Administrators, that Good For Enterprises will not run/work on a rooted device. (Followed this guide exactly Guide)
I know it sucks, but I have to have Good For Enterprises for work. So...
1. What is the best way unroot so I can resume using GFE?
2. What will happen to the XZ Dual Recovery I've installed? Is it possible to keep custom recovery & get rid of root access, so that I can still flash new firmware in the future?
Thanks in advance!

did you try rootcloak?

As I understand it, to get back to stock will require flashtool and flashing the stock sony file.

Delebird said:
did you try rootcloak?
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Yes, unfortunately rootcloak plus does not currently work for Lollipop & Good For Enterprises. Thank you for the thought though.
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JediDru said:
As I understand it, to get back to stock will require flashtool and flashing the stock sony file.
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I don't need to get back to stock, rather, I need to "un-root" the device so it will pass the GFE compliance check. In SuperSU there is a Full unroot option. Would that work to unroot the device? If I select that option, what happens to the custom dual recovery I installed per the previously posted guide on how to root & flash Lollipop?
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cofcgrad05 said:
I don't need to get back to stock, rather, I need to "un-root" the device so it will pass the GFE compliance check. In SuperSU there is a Full unroot option. Would that work to unroot the device? If I select that option, what happens to the custom dual recovery I installed per the previously posted guide on how to root & flash Lollipop?
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Going back to stock is the way to fully unroot. You can try the unroot function in the SuperSU app but I can't 100% guarantee that is enough for gfe to work.
I am uncertain if you can keep dual recovery when not rooted.

BladeRunner said:
Going back to stock is the way to fully unroot. You can try the unroot function in the SuperSU app but I can't 100% guarantee that is enough for gfe to work.
I am uncertain if you can keep dual recovery when not rooted.
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Thank you all for the help. Ran the full unroot option in SuperSU, rebooted, installed GFE now works. Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!

So you were on 5.02 rooted and using SuperSU you unrooted and rebooted for it to work? Can you root again using SuperSU just using the app after installing GFE?

pvcdroid said:
So you were on 5.02 rooted and using SuperSU you unrooted and rebooted for it to work? Can you root again using SuperSU just using the app after installing GFE?
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Yes, that's correct. I used SuperSU to unroot, reboot, & then GFE was able to go through the full activation process. My understanding of GFE is that anytime the GFE Service starts, it does a compliance check & if it discovers root, it will force close the app. This is what was occurring when I tried to activate the GFE license with root access. It would activate & then when it went to start the GFE Service it would force close the app.
I have not tried to reroot with SuperSU to see if GFE will work once activated with root access. My guess from reading different forums is that it will not. I will try in a month or two after some time has passed for the IT guys at my company, to re-root the device & see if I can use GFE with the phone rooted.

cofcgrad05 said:
Followed the guides for the Verizon Sony Xperia Z3v & managed to upgrade to Android 5.0.2 with root access. I was ecstatic until I was told by my IT Administrators, that Good For Enterprises will not run/work on a rooted device. (Followed this guide exactly Guide)
I know it sucks, but I have to have Good For Enterprises for work. So...
1. What is the best way unroot so I can resume using GFE?
2. What will happen to the XZ Dual Recovery I've installed? Is it possible to keep custom recovery & get rid of root access, so that I can still flash new firmware in the future?
Thanks in advance!
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did you see if that good for enterprise-root module on xposed that may have worked.

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[Q] Unroot method that DOESN'T wipe?

I have been searching and haven't found this, forgive me if it's out there.
Is there an unroot method for the GTab 10.1 Wifi that DOESN'T wipe and return to stock? I want to install a custom ROM and go back and forth between root as my company doesn't allow their Good for Enterprise app to work on a rooted device.
Thanks!
Delete /system/bin/su, then system/app/superuser.apk and reboot. I have done it and all the signs of root were gone. Also I've read that superSU from market does the job, but never tried it. Either way, afaik, the only way to be 10000% certain is to flash a clean, stock rom.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
Blueback22 said:
I have been searching and haven't found this, forgive me if it's out there.
Is there an unroot method for the GTab 10.1 Wifi that DOESN'T wipe and return to stock? I want to install a custom ROM and go back and forth between root as my company doesn't allow their Good for Enterprise app to work on a rooted device.
Thanks!
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OTA root keeper is working with google play movies to temperarily unroot even works for OTA updates
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
Others have tried OTA root keeper without success with Good for Enterprise (GFE).
I tried SuperSU (which is a cool app!) without any luck. I tried it both with and without a rooted kernel. GFE still detects root even when it's been "turned off" in SuperSU.
I will next try to permanentally unroot via SuperSU and hope it doesn't wipe.
Questions go in the Q&A section
Blueback22 said:
Others have tried OTA root keeper without success with Good for Enterprise (GFE).
I tried SuperSU (which is a cool app!) without any luck. I tried it both with and without a rooted kernel. GFE still detects root even when it's been "turned off" in SuperSU.
I will next try to permanentally unroot via SuperSU and hope it doesn't wipe.
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Permanent unroot works in SuperSU to unroot and allow Good for Enterprise to work on my tablet. I can always reflash the rooted update.zip file to gain root again if I need to.
Success! This allow root to be removed and not wipe the Galaxy Tab.
Blueback22 said:
Permanent unroot works in SuperSU to unroot and allow Good for Enterprise to work on my tablet. I can always reflash the rooted update.zip file to gain root again if I need to.
Success! This allow root to be removed and not wipe the Galaxy Tab.
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Which Galaxy Tab do you have? I have the Tab Pro 8.4 and I tried to do permanent unroot with SuperSU and GFE complained. What version of GFE was it? Did you do anything else after unroot?
imthenachoman said:
Which Galaxy Tab do you have? I have the Tab Pro 8.4 and I tried to do permanent unroot with SuperSU and GFE complained. What version of GFE was it? Did you do anything else after unroot?
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Lol. This was from 2 years ago man. It was the original Galaxy Tab 10.1
I have no idea which version if GFE it was, but I'm sure this thread is old and dead now.

[Q] Lost root, help downgrading to 4.1.2

Hi all,
I'm a bit of a n00b at this, so please forgive me.
I started with Android 4.1.2, Kernel 3.4.0-g298631f-02047-gec59411, build 10.1.C.0.370.
I rooted it using Doomlord's easy-root and then when attempting to flash custom recovery, I accidentally flashed some other .img and the tablet wouldn't even turn on. I cried. Like, a few good tears.
Went online, found out I wasn't screwed, and figured out how to flash SGP312_10.4.B.0.577_VMo DE_1273-3719_WIFI312G.
But, as I said, I lost root, and am confused about how to downgrade back to 4.1.2 properly without bricking.
Here is my current info:
Version 4.3, Kernel 3.4.0-g1b44cd5, build 10.4.b.0.577
In this thread, under "Downgrade your rom" and "back to 4.1.2 and rooting" it says "if you're in 4.3, Flash this SGP 351 4.1.2 FTF using Flash Tool and it will be booted in 4.1.2. if you have different Variant downgrade to your Variant FTF file"
What is a variant FTF file? Can I just use any SGP 312 4.1.2 FTF? Does anyone know a safe one to use?
Thanks!
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
worf_1977 said:
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
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Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
UberBaumer said:
Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
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I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
Cat McGowan said:
I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
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THANK YOU, SIR.
I really appreciate it!
Back onto 4.1 and just rooted again. Now I just need to manage not screwing up installing CWM like I did last time!
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
UberBaumer said:
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
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TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
Cat McGowan said:
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
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Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
UberBaumer said:
Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
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I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
Cat McGowan said:
I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
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Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
UberBaumer said:
Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
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When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
Cat McGowan said:
When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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Damn, maybe I was a bit too hasty in rooting my tablet; why is it that I can no longer to OTA updates? If I were to buy SuperSU PRO (for survival mode) is there any benefit to me? I see that it allows for OTA updates.
I am currently rooted via Superuser (by clockworkmod).
When you say I'll need to install 4.2.2 by flashing, you mean through Flashtool, right? Which build should I get (and where, one of the development forums)?
Is the reason why one is advised to install custom roms via recovery mode in order to maintain root access (which I'm assuming doesn't happen if you flash through Flashtool)?
Something I forgot to mention earlier is that I did unlock the bootloader. I'm not sure if that helps or hinders me at this point.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer all my questions. I really love this new toy, and I'm so terrified of bricking it.
Cat McGowan said:
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
UberBaumer said:
If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
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Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
Cat McGowan said:
Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
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Thank you again my friend.
Is there a list of apps that are safe to uninstall, or, rather, a list of apps that I shouldn't tinker with (for fear of uninstalling an app that has a dependency on something critical)?
Also, I'm on the Google Play store and I see both Titanium Backup Pro and Rom Toolbox Pro. Should I buy both? If you had to buy just one, which would it be?
My main goal is to just make the smoothest experience possible. I want to take maximum advantage of the hardware in the tablet and have as few unnecessary programs running as possible.

Need a bit of input?

Okay,I posted recently about my old z ultra. I bought the z ultra off Craigslist and it was updated to 5.0.
Anyhow the screen got the dreaded 'hairline' Crack in the screen and Sony covered it.
They sent me a new phone international version and the first thing I checked were the hidden functions in the dialer. Rooting status says yes or bootloader rather. Also the phone is still running 4.3. I did some searching and found a root method. I don't want kingroot or any Chinese crap.
Do I need a computer? Can I root using towelroot? Install busboy? DL cwm and flash via the phone?
harley1rocker said:
Okay,I posted recently about my old z ultra. I bought the z ultra off Craigslist and it was updated to 5.0.
Anyhow the screen got the dreaded 'hairline' Crack in the screen and Sony covered it.
They sent me a new phone international version and the first thing I checked were the hidden functions in the dialer. Rooting status says yes or bootloader rather. Also the phone is still running 4.3. I did some searching and found a root method. I don't want kingroot or any Chinese crap.
Do I need a computer? Can I root using towelroot? Install busboy? DL cwm and flash via the phone?
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Nope. Towelroot does not work on 4.3. I hope my phone doesn't force a system update. I'm still 4.3 for now.
Not a gpe edition either
Screw it. I think I'll just take the update
This is why im tempted to multi post. A moderator warned against multi post. Ive had this post up for a few days now and ive not got one answer.
I need to know about 4.3 jellybean. My phone was shipped with it. Do i have to use flashtool? Whats the first step? I haven't taken the update. Im still 4.3
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Hello there lonely islander! I'm randomly passing through with my ship, and I caught your smoke signals.
I can't really remember the root situation on 4.3, but there were quite a few rooting tools in the cross-development section. Not sure if those were for 4.1 or 4.3 though. I'll do some digging and I'll be back.
What's the firmware version? .290?
EDIT: Okay, so I've done some searching, and this method was the one that people used back on 4.3. It's not perfect though since it required the use of Vroot, which is/was the same type of rooting tool as Kingroot, so that's probably a no-go.
Another way of doing it would be to downgrade to a firmware that's supported by towelroot. That would be 4.1? 4.2? Find out which version is compatible and find that firmware FTF in the Dev section. You'll probably have to do some digging since a 4.x ROM thread will be quite old. Flash it using Flashtool and then root with towelroot.
But...
What's your plan now? Backup the TA partition (DRM-files) and then unlocking the bootloader, update to 5.1.1 and easily root again through fastboot since your B/L is unlocked? Or are you planning to keep the bootloader locked and live the rest of your life on an ancient Android version?
EDIT 2: Have you tried this tool on 4.3? It's based on Towelroot, but it's customized for rooting Xperia devices. I think that maybe, probably, it'll work on 4.3. I don't know, so go ahead and just try it unless you've already done it.
EDIT 3: Okay, so it looks like the tool provided in "Edit 2" should be compatible with Android versions up to 4.4.2 before being patched by Google/Sony in 4.4.3/4.4.4 (KitKat), so it should in theory work on 4.3.
EDIT 4: OKay, I have no idea what's real anymore. I just stumbled upon this post from that thread:
v 12.4 worked like a charm on my Xperia Z Ultra C6802 (4.4.4).
Did TA backup. Installed SU chainfire and updated binary in normal mode. Got write to external SD card ability on my Total Commander without any SDFix app. Thanks.
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So... just go ahead and try it. If it fails, then you can downgrade using Flashtool if you're into that.
Build is 136. No,you are correct. King root is king crap. Im not going back there. The bootloader status says yes. Will i have to use the sony web site to unlock bootloader? Yes, i want root and i want too flash roms.
So,can i just root and install safestrap,superSU or do i have to unlock BL.
I could update to 4.4.....
Okay. Forget what i want. Tell me the steps i need to take. Im on 4.3. Build136. Yes i wanna root and i wanna rom..
harley1rocker said:
Okay. Forget what i want. Tell me the steps i need to take. Im on 4.3. Build136. Yes i wanna root and i wanna rom..
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Alright. First step is to test and see if that root tool I linked to in my previous post works. If it does, great. If it doesn't, it'll get a little more time consuming.
But the important question here is: Do you care about the DRM files? They control mostly the camera which will be a little affected by the loss of the keys. It'll happen either way when you unlock the bootloader, but backing them up allows you to restore them later if you ever re-lock the bootloader for some reason.
So you can either:
1. Backup the DRM files, but doing that requires root, which is fairly hard to obtain with a locked bootloader, which you are currently witnessing.
2. Ignore the loss of the DRM files and unlock the bootloader right now. When you have unlocked the bootloader it'll allow you to boot and flash custom code, like a custom kernel with recovery (CWM/TWRP/Philz) which again allows you to flash SuperSU and be done with it, or flash a different ROM. It's the easiest way, but you'll lose the DRM keys. They might become handy if you have to send your device in for repairs down the road (if you have any warranty left, that is)
So what you need to decide right now is what you want to do.
Should i update? the next update is 4.4.2. I could take it then use watevr roottool. So root first then unlock bootloader
harley1rocker said:
Should i update? the next update is 4.4.2. I could take it then use watevr roottool. So root first then unlock bootloader
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No, just try the root tool right now while you're on 4.3. If it works, it works.
Did it work?
Im going to attempt here in a min
But first my good man,in what order do i do this?
Root first,unlock BL,install recovery?
Root bootloader status says yes..do i need to mess with it?
I updated to 4.4.2. Towelroot does not work on any of them
harley1rocker said:
Im going to attempt here in a min
But first my good man,in what order do i do this?
Root first,unlock BL,install recovery?
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Yeah, root then backup the DRM files and then unlock the BL, then install recovery.
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Root bootloader status says yes..do i need to mess with it?
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What yes? Bootloader Unlock allowed: Yes or Bootloader unlocked: Yes?
harley1rocker said:
I updated to 4.4.2. Towelroot does not work on any of them
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Alright, now we know.
If bootloader status says YES on unlocked, then it's already unlocked, and we've wasted a bunch of time! If it's already unlocked, then just install recovery.
Bootloader unlock allowed:yes...... So i take it,its not.
Can i use flashtool? I tried sony "official " way and i did NOT understand it. So ive read into flashtool and it seems easier.
If i get a recovery on this thing im good from there.
I dont understand the steps. On Samsung note devices its root,safestrap, SU then happy flashhing.
This device is crazy confusion
harley1rocker said:
Bootloader unlock allowed:yes...... So i take it,its not.
Can i use flashtool? I tried sony "official " way and i did NOT understand it. So ive read into flashtool and it seems easier.
If i get a recovery on this thing im good from there.
I dont understand the steps. On Samsung note devices its root,safestrap, SU then happy flashhing.
This device is crazy confusion
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OK. Here is what you need to know and do.
1- you didn't need to upgrade. A towelroot variant would have worked.
2- you don't need to unlock bootloader.
3- you need to install, from a PC onto your phone, what's called Xzdualrecovery, which is essentially a recovery. Google it and download the latest installer for this phone. You need to enable USB debugging on the phone so it can be installed from the PC. When your start the installer there is an option to instal AND root. This tool comes with the variant of towelroot tha can properly root your phone, if your OS date is before June 7 2014.
If you need help with these steps message me.
Thank u najoor. I have only updated to 4.4.2. I tried towelroot. Didnt work. I have a c6802. So im completely stock and your saying theres a tool out there that can root and install recovery from a pc.
Flashtool? Could you provide a link?

Z3v 5.1.1 Full Root

I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
Thanks, Iambedook. Every experience helps. Kingoroot got me into trouble once before in the past.
Can you flash back to 4.4 from 5.1.1?
iambedook said:
I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
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I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
GigaSPX said:
Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
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Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
pvcdroid said:
Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
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You may root, but I would advise against anything else. the Z5 Camera is most likely not compatible for our phones on 5.1.1, and neither is the FM Tuner. It's a whole lot I can't touch base on yet.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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I was able to flash back to 4.4.4 after i messed things up, but after going back to 4.4.4 i am struggling to get back to 5.1.1. The updates are not appearing, stating I am at the latest version.
I would also like a confirm if this. Because I'm sitting around and waiting for a rooted 5.1.1 copy for the phone. Im on 5.0.2 right now and all is working good but still waiting. Thanks all.
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow!!! That sounds great, thanks Tiger
thals1992 said:
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
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Just an FYI, after I needed to revert to 4.4.4. I was struggling to receive updates to get back to 5.1.1. I had to use the Flashtool, 3-5 times to get the correct update prompts to appear. If anyone else had similar issues when reverting back, let me know, but re flashing repeatedly worked for me.
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow,
Download url please
immtu said:
Wow,
Download url please
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Just scroll down to the z3v dev section.
I was actually able to flash the stock ftf coming 5.0.2. I had to flash it with default options the first time with it failing. I then found that I have to basically flash noting to clear the error on the phone by checking everything in exclude and the other exclude box where it shows its not displaying any files in the middle of the window.
Once that went through, I was able to upgrade from stock to .44 and then the the two updates for 5.1.1. After all that I reset to factory again to test on rooting the phone. I was too, able to obtain root with King Root. I was able to install zxrecovery and xposed with no problems. I'm actually used to King Root as I had to use it on the Verizon branded 7" tablet that didn't have any other possible methods previously. I also found that Busybox was slightly out of date (difference of 2.0) and installed to /sbin which wasn't too big of an issue.
Beyond that my phone seems to get pretty warm and typically complains about not charging even on a 2 Amp charger.
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
Zandermc3 said:
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
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Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
thals1992 said:
Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
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Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
Zandermc3 said:
Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
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Thats why then. This is only for the Z3v the Verizon variant.
Hi there,
New to the forum. After several hours of reading and searching, I became bewildered enough to decide to register and post .
This thread looked promising. I'm currently on rooted 4.4.4 with this phone. I also have a custom recovery installed. Im trying to get to 5.1.1. As of right now, I assume my only option is to wait for a 5.1.1 ftf so that I can update, because the OTA updates won't work (phone reboots into the custom recovery and the update is interrupted).
Is there an easier way to get the OTA? Or am I stuck waiting for an ftf?
To be clear, my goal is to be on 5.1.1 with root. But at this point I don't think I can get to 5.1.1 at all.

[Tutorial] How to Root the G850A (AT&T Galaxy Alpha)

Huge thanks to vadosnake for discovering this !
It's been a wait of 2 years, and King root has finally achieved root on this device. This method was tested on the Lollipop firmware, and others have said it works on KitKat as well. To root the G850A, follow these steps:
1.) Download the two APKs provided below, which we'll need for later
2.) Enable Unknown Sources by going to Settings, then Security, and the option should be right there
3.) Now install KingRoot 4.81. A message will pop up saying that the app is malicious, but just click "Install Anyway"
4.) Now enter the King root app and click Root. The phone will reboot, but that is normal. Go back into the app again and the process should continue until it's complete. Voila, your phone is now rooted. However, we will be replacing KingRoot with SuperSU.
5.) Install the second APK called SuperSume. After it's done, click the big green button, give it root access, and it will replace KingRoot with SuperSU in 1 minute.
6.) Go into the Play Store and update SuperSU. After it's done updating, go into the app and it will pop up with a message saying to update the binaries. Click continue then "Normal". DO NOT CLICK TWRP/CWM, OR IT WILL SOFTBRICK YOUR DEVICE.
7.) After that., you're done. You now have root with SuperSU.
Please make sure to show this to AT&T Galaxy Alpha users. Especially developers, so we can get some roms
Did anyone try this? Why does King Root need internet access to root? I'm afraid to turn on the internet in case it tries to steal data.
PopTartKing said:
Huge thanks to vadosnake for discovering this !
It's been a wait of 2 years, and King root has finally achieved root on this device. This method was tested on the Lollipop firmware, and others have said it works on KitKat as well. To root the G850A, follow these steps:
1.) Download the two APKs provided below, which we'll need for later
2.) Enable Unknown Sources by going to Settings, then Security, and the option should be right there
3.) Now install KingRoot 4.81. A message will pop up saying that the app is malicious, but just click "Install Anyway"
4.) Now enter the King root app and click Root. The phone will reboot, but that is normal. Go back into the app again and the process should continue until it's complete. Voila, your phone is now rooted. However, we will be replacing KingRoot with SuperSU.
5.) Install the second APK called SuperSume. After it's done, click the big green button, give it root access, and it will replace KingRoot with SuperSU in 1 minute.
6.) Go into the Play Store and update SuperSU. After it's done updating, go into the app and it will pop up with a message saying to update the binaries. Click continue then "Normal". DO NOT CLICK TWRP/CWM, OR IT WILL SOFTBRICK YOUR DEVICE.
7.) After that., you're done. You now have root with SuperSU.
Please make sure to show this to AT&T Galaxy Alpha users. Especially developers, so we can get some roms
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cqdiep said:
Did anyone try this? Why does King Root need internet access to root? I'm afraid to turn on the internet in case it tries to steal data.
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It needs Internet access to search in their database for a root solution.
I got SuperSU to install, but it can't update the binaries. It says "Installation failed! Please reboot and try again." after trying to update the binaries. The Root Checker app did confirm that it was rooted.
PopTartKing said:
It needs Internet access to search in their database for a root solution.
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cqdiep said:
I got SuperSU to install, but it can't update the binaries. It says "Installation failed! Please reboot and try again." after trying to update the binaries. The Root Checker app did confirm that it was rooted.
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For now, I tend to leave the app closed, and just wait until root prompts appear for root apps
Yeah, I'm doing that too.
PopTartKing said:
For now, I tend to leave the app closed, and just wait until root prompts appear for root apps
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No Luck
I just ran the included 4.8.1 and online 5.0.1 versions, neither worked. So I tried the 4.8.1 a few times (including restarts) and the Super-SuMe anyway, but it didn't do anything past "Preparing environment" for 20 minutes.
Additional note, the 4.8.1 seems to have problems in general. After trying to root and failing, it'll continue using 80% of my cpu on some other processes within it's directory (mostly Schrodinger).
I'm running Android 5.0.2 (G850AUCU1BOC7), Kernel 3.4.0-4486597, Build LRX22G. It's the last update ATT gave us.
zyphuris55 said:
I just ran the included 4.8.1 and online 5.0.1 versions, neither worked. So I tried the 4.8.1 a few times (including restarts) and the Super-SuMe anyway, but it didn't do anything past "Preparing environment" for 20 minutes.
Additional note, the 4.8.1 seems to have problems in general. After trying to root and failing, it'll continue using 80% of my cpu on some other processes within it's directory (mostly Schrodinger).
I'm running Android 5.0.2 (G850AUCU1BOC7), Kernel 3.4.0-4486597, Build LRX22G. It's the last update ATT gave us.
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Same, tried both 4.8.1 and 5.0.1, neither worked. Same android and baseband version as yours.
Thanks so much for this. I'm curious exactly which version of Lollipop on the g850a this was tested and working on? Was it specifically 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 something like that? I just want to make sure I can follow it exactly so it works.
Root access was lost after a couple of days. I'm on 4.4.4.
cqdiep said:
Yeah, I'm doing that too.
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Well this is strange, I followed this exact tutorial about 1 month ago and everything worked fine, now the app just freezes and after 5 minutes gives off a "Root Fail" message. I'm still running v4.8.1 on the app and still running on the KitKat firmware. This makes no sense at all.
Edit: The phone is no longer supported by Kingroot
Hey guys, sorry for not replying, my internet has been down for the past two weeks . It seems that everyone is having problems keeping root after a while. I might not be a developer, but here's my advice: Once root is obtained, do what you want to do (ie. change emojis or install ViperAudio), then don't touch the SuperSU app until some more skilled developers put this root to full use . I'm sorry for not being more useful, but I just want everyone to know that this device isn't dead. What we need right now is something like SafeStrap for some some-what custom roms.
Any one having issue getting this to work?
PopTartKing said:
Hey guys, sorry for not replying, my internet has been down for the past two weeks . It seems that everyone is having problems keeping root after a while. I might not be a developer, but here's my advice: Once root is obtained, do what you want to do (ie. change emojis or install ViperAudio), then don't touch the SuperSU app until some more skilled developers put this root to full use . I'm sorry for not being more useful, but I just want everyone to know that this device isn't dead. What we need right now is something like SafeStrap for some some-what custom roms.
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Yeah, Kingroot pulled support from it after people started using supersu-me to get supersu on their devices instead of kingroot. Well, to me, it sounds like a jealousy problem on Kingroots end. It's not like everyone is buying the pro version of the app. Their main source of money is ad revenue. They also pulled support from the Galaxy S5 and many other devices mainly because of people using supersu-me. Kingroot has got to get the stick that is in it's butt right now out ASAP. A 'friend' of mine literally sold his S5 because it couldn't be rooted anymore, and i'm thinking about selling my G850A because it can't be rooted anymore.
Just to clarify this, there's absolutely no way on the internet that the G850A can be rooted, ever?
chocolatewings said:
Just to clarify this, there's absolutely no way on the internet that the G850A can be rooted, ever?
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Not anymore. It only had root for like 1 month then Kingroot removed support, you can blame them. Unless someone is exploit something so we can have root back, there is no way to root this phone anymore. I know, it sucks, just like the Kingroot developers, but that's just life.
cqdiep said:
Root access was lost after a couple of days. I'm on 4.4.4.
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Hi
Im doing that and 100% complete but i check root by root check not request from super user
Solution found!
Hi guys. I think I found the trick. Just disable Internet connection (Mobile data and WiFi) just before lunching kingroot app this would evade the app from "searching the best root solution" which is "nothing found".
I used the exact same files uploaded in the OP and it works great, including the supersume part.
Good luck.
I'm very lucky to root my device. waited One year and 4 months and got the fruit of patience. Now I love my device. I have patched Tethering Provision. Now I can easily open hotspot.. no need of foxfi etc... ? Congratulations to those who got there device ROOOOTED.. ?
babarjoya said:
I'm very lucky to root my device. waited One year and 4 months and got the fruit of patience. Now I love my device. I have patched Tethering Provision. Now I can easily open hotspot.. no need of foxfi etc... Congratulations to those who got there device ROOOOTED..
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Salam. Babar bhai hamen bhi bata den k kaise root kar lia ap ne. please

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