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Just what the title says, opinions? I have had the 3d for the weekend pretty much and it is ok, but some things I am finding out about it are lacking. The 3d camera is nice, but what would I really use it for? To me its almost just a, ' Hey look at my cool camera' type gimmick.
What are some of your guys' thoughts on the Epic/Nexus, or how about the Photon, I think the Photon actually looks pretty cool and I would have my kickstand back.
Thoughts? Please be as detailed as possible, would be appreciated.
Thanks
I can't really give any opinion on the Photon as it's not out yet, but the Evo 3D is well ahead of both the Epic and the Nexus S in terms of hardware. I currently have an Evo 4G and owned an Epic for a while before I got fed up with it and gave it to my wife so I could get my Evo back. I suppose it all depends on what you intend to do with your phone, but the current Samsung offerings aren't in the same league as the Evo 3D. It has a higher res screen, a faster clock speed, twice as many cores, and twice as much RAM.
Between Sprint giving me my original Sprint Premier early upgrade back for the EVO 3D launch, and Target giving me $150 trade it, total out of pocket cost to upgrade was just $68 and adding a year to my contract.
It's also a big plus that HTC will OFFICIALLY be permitting root. I know at least one dev (I forget which it was) has a 3D in hand. So, there ought to be lots of non-Sprint options.
So far my only complaint is that the colors on the screen seem faded. Like a cloudy day. Not the end of the world, but I wouldn't have liked a better/brighter screen. (Not the AMOLED one though, those are too saturated. Like looking inside a fish tank.)
I currently have the epic and evo 3d as my daily phones and i can tell you to avoid the epic like the plague....i have had software problems from phone ramdomly exiting applications to slow laggy perfromance on almost everything except gaming. I have had my epic since release and will never purchase a samsung phone again...their hardware is usually incrementally better than the competition but their software implementation leaves much to be desired, which makes superior hardware null at best. The feel of the evo 3d in hand really makes it feel like you are holding something premium in your hand...im sure the sgs2 will follow the same lead with hardware being better, but i have no faith in their ability to deliver on thevsoftware front........i bet the evo 3d will get ice cream sandwich before the sgs2 at least by 6 months.
dee32181 said:
I currently have the epic and evo 3d as my daily phones and i can tell you to avoid the epic like the plague....i have had software problems from phone ramdomly exiting applications to slow laggy perfromance on almost everything except gaming. I have had my epic since release and will never purchase a samsung phone again...their hardware is usually incrementally better than the competition but their software implementation leaves much to be desired, which makes superior hardware null at best. The feel of the evo 3d in hand really makes it feel like you are holding something premium in your hand...im sure the sgs2 will follow the same lead with hardware being better, but i have no faith in their ability to deliver on thevsoftware front........i bet the evo 3d will get ice cream sandwich before the sgs2 at least by 6 months.
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I pretty much agree with both of these guys. Consider that the 3d has had 3 OTAs to fix "bugs" and it's only been a week. The hold up for Gingerbread to show up on the Evo 4G was more due to the fact that the Nexus S was the only device allowed to have Gingerbread for a certain period of time as per Google. As soon as that time frame was up, HTC and Motorola both had Gingerbread for their flagship phones... The Epic and some other Galaxy S phones are still waiting.
I think HTC and Motorola are sharing the title of "King of the Hill" when it comes to android phones. I personally like HTC's hardware better. They both have provided similar (i.e. good) support to their user community. Motorola's success I attribute to the "Droid" marketing campaign by Verizon, but they have backed that up with action and performance. Will have to see how the Photon pans out, though.
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the 3d has had 3 OTAs to fix "bugs" and it's only been a week.
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The phone has only been "officially" out for 4 days, not even a week yet. HTC seems to be working hard to keep the bugs to a minimum (of course opening up the bootloader is another thing entirely).
ballr4lyf said:
I pretty much agree with both of these guys. Consider that the 3d has had 3 OTAs to fix "bugs" and it's only been a week. The hold up for Gingerbread to show up on the Evo 4G was more due to the fact that the Nexus S was the only device allowed to have Gingerbread for a certain period of time as per Google. As soon as that time frame was up, HTC and Motorola both had Gingerbread for their flagship phones... The Epic and some other Galaxy S phones are still waiting.
I think HTC and Motorola are sharing the title of "King of the Hill" when it comes to android phones. I personally like HTC's hardware better. They both have provided similar (i.e. good) support to their user community. Motorola's success I attribute to the "Droid" marketing campaign by Verizon, but they have backed that up with action and performance. Will have to see how the Photon pans out, though.
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I tend to agree with everyone here for the most part, although the Photon looks pretty sick imo. I do like HTC better but we are not 100% sure that the 3d will be rooted yet are we? I have seen conflicting results. The specs on the Photon seem a bit better than the 3d in some aspects. As far as the other two go I won't get either of those. It would only be between the Photon and this 3d right now.
On a better note I don't understand why people had to pay for their 3d's, makes me feel good. I didn't pay a dime, just gave them my EVO back and dude gave me the 3d. Even got my girl her first smartphone, the LG optimus, decent unit also for absolutely nothing. Guess it helps when the manager at that store wants to keep your business. Not to mention a free screen protector and case.
Lucky I guess.
Very curious about the Photon. Has intrigued my interest.
Thanks for everyone's input.
So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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I thought you could only do the 30 day exchange once?
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So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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You can only do the exchange once per ugrade... and you can't do it on the same phone. You can get a replacement if there's a problem, but you can't just exchange for one of the same thing. You can return it, but then if you get another 3D, you won't get another 30 day grace-period.
Either they lied to you to get you to shut up and buy the phone, or that manager is an idiot.
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So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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im pretty sure exchanging doesn't reset your 30-day
what would keep people from endlessly exchanging after 28 days to keep their return window?
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You can only do the exchange once per ugrade... and you can't do it on the same phone. You can get a replacement if there's a problem, but you can't just exchange for one of the same thing. You can return it, but then if you get another 3D, you won't get another 30 day grace-period.
Either they lied to you to get you to shut up and buy the phone, or that manager is an idiot.
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No, I know the manager. I know he isn't lying, and maybe you 'can't' do it normally but he is doing it for me. Think what you will.
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No, I know the manager. I know he isn't lying, and maybe you 'can't' do it normally but he is doing it for me. Think what you will.
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Well when he loses his job, feel free to pay his rent for him. You can return the phone for any reason within 30 days, but you can't just keep exchanging. I'm sure that will throw a flag up in Sprint's database real quick.
If you get away with it, all the more power to you... but if you get stuck with a phone that you don't actually want because you're trying to leapfrog a free ticket and your friend ends up jobless... it's your own fault.
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Well when he loses his job, feel free to pay his rent for him. You can return the phone for any reason within 30 days, but you can't just keep exchanging. I'm sure that will throw a flag up in Sprint's database real quick.
If you get away with it, all the more power to you... but if you get stuck with a phone that you don't actually want because you're trying to leapfrog a free ticket and your friend ends up jobless... it's your own fault.
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Actually I just got off the phone with Sprint and the process is allowed, to a certain extent. Not sure why your so mad, but to each their own. Why would I pay someone's rent for someone? That has nothing to do with anything, and I doubt he is going to do something like that if it would cost him his job. Get real.
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Actually I just got off the phone with Sprint and the process is allowed, to a certain extent. Not sure why your so mad, but to each their own. Why would I pay someone's rent for someone? That has nothing to do with anything, and I doubt he is going to do something like that if it would cost him his job. Get real.
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I'm not mad about anything, just pointing out that doing something sneaky and underhanded like allowing someone to leapfrog their contract and 30 day return is a good way for someone to lose their job.
Apparently you didn't get what I meant by paying his rent... I guess I have to type things very literally so it doesn't go over people's heads. If he loses his job, he won't have any money. If he doesn't have money, he can't pay rent. If he can't pay rent because he lost his job for you... then it goes back to what I said before.
If it were allowed at all, nobody would ever be locked into a contract, because we'd all just keep leapfrogging our phones around every 30 days to something else, or even the same thing.
Anyway, pick which phone you want, it's all up to personal preference. I got my EVO 3D because it's the EVO's big brother (shouldn't say that, someone might not understand...). Alright, it's the EVO's successor, so it was a logical choice for me because of how well my EVO has treated me. Don't let everyone else decide which phone you should get, you're the one that will be using it.
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I'm not mad about anything, just pointing out that doing something sneaky and underhanded like allowing someone to leapfrog their contract and 30 day return is a good way for someone to lose their job.
Apparently you didn't get what I meant by paying his rent... I guess I have to type things very literally so it doesn't go over people's heads. If he loses his job, he won't have any money. If he doesn't have money, he can't pay rent. If he can't pay rent because he lost his job for you... then it goes back to what I said before.
If it were allowed at all, nobody would ever be locked into a contract, because we'd all just keep leapfrogging our phones around every 30 days to something else, or even the same thing.
Anyway, pick which phone you want, it's all up to personal preference. I got my EVO 3D because it's the EVO's big brother (shouldn't say that, someone might not understand...). Alright, it's the EVO's successor, so it was a logical choice for me because of how well my EVO has treated me. Don't let everyone else decide which phone you should get, you're the one that will be using it.
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Oh I get it, you're just an asshole. Thanks for sharing. Go be a douche somewhere else. Every single thing you said had no bearing on my question. I didn't say it was the honorable thing to do, but hey, if I can do I am going to do it. I have a feeling that if you could do it, you would to. So get off your high horse there chump.
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Oh I get it, you're just an asshole. Thanks for sharing. Go be a douche somewhere else. Every single thing you said had no bearing on my question. I didn't say it was the honorable thing to do, but hey, if I can do I am going to do it. I have a feeling that if you could do it, you would to. So get off your high horse there chump.
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There are no needs for insults my friend. Let's keep the peace!
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There are no needs for insults my friend. Let's keep the peace!
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I find what he said more insulting. I will speak my peace, thank you.
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Actually I just got off the phone with Sprint and the process is allowed, to a certain extent. Not sure why your so mad, but to each their own. Why would I pay someone's rent for someone? That has nothing to do with anything, and I doubt he is going to do something like that if it would cost him his job. Get real.
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Well damn if that's the case, then I'm gonna have a brand new EVO 3D every 29 days now!
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Oh I get it, you're just an asshole. Thanks for sharing. Go be a douche somewhere else. Every single thing you said had no bearing on my question. I didn't say it was the honorable thing to do, but hey, if I can do I am going to do it. I have a feeling that if you could do it, you would to. So get off your high horse there chump.
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1: I am an asshole
2: I wouldn't do what you're doing, as I get a phone that I want, I don't need the next best thing every month. I got the 3D as my phone for the next year at least, regardless of the other phones that are around the corner
3: Pick a phone that's good for you, but because you obviously need the biggest ego around, keep trying to hop around to make sure you have the best phone possible. The 3D section of XDA doesn't need you here, good luck on the Nexus S, Epic, or Photon boards...
Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
omgtheybetterfixitinthenexttwelvesecondsorimsogoingtoreturnthisphonegoddamn
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
I certainly understand that you're looking for the bootloader of the EVO 3D to be unlocked. This is indeed something that we're working on, true to our word. We don't have a date set yet for when the update to do so will be available, but as this is a high priority situation when there is news on the subject it will be posted to our social media outlets, like our Facebook and our Twitter just as the previous announcement was. I hope that it is soon.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number
Sincerely,
Philip
Kind of makes me feel better missing the great deal, though at $100, the current function still makes the device a bargain.
Based on the time that has passed, seems a easy to install for the masses and 100% functional Android firmware gets more remote, as time passes.
I would still buy one in a second for $100
So you don't have a touchpad right?
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Kind of makes me feel better missing the great deal, though at $100, the current function still makes the device a bargain.
Based on the time that has passed, seems a easy to install for the masses and 100% functional Android firmware gets more remote, as time passes.
I would still buy one in a second for $100
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1. You are an idiot
2. Search for cm7 progress for th touchpad.
rushless said:
Kind of makes me feel better missing the great deal, though at $100, the current function still makes the device a bargain.
Based on the time that has passed, seems a easy to install for the masses and 100% functional Android firmware gets more remote, as time passes.
I would still buy one in a second for $100
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Yawn........
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1. You are an idiot
2. Search for cm7 progress for th touchpad.
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I didnt have the energy to reply to his question, lol, well done mate for your strength
It makes me sick how misinformed people are about the Android port, just because it isnt in their pocket 24 hours after they bought the product...
Its coming, and so is ICS for us, if you bought this tablet for even 300 pounds you got a bargin because it will have the most advanced mobile operating system on it very soon so well done
JD
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I didnt have the energy to reply to his question, lol, well done mate for your strength
It makes me sick how misinformed people are about the Android port, just because it isnt in their pocket 24 hours after they bought the product...
Its coming, and so is ICS for us, if you bought this tablet for even 300 pounds you got a bargin because it will have the most advanced mobile operating system on it very soon so well done
JD
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It makes me feel so better missing the great deal... hahaha, from that line all you know thats coming is garbage. lollol
If you bought the TP, well done... This guy obviously got left behind and is showing his grief by trying to make us adopters look like we have made a mistake...
If you think a 1.2ghz dual core adreno chipset with an ips screen and wolfsen audio chip being sold for 100 dollars is not a missed opportunity, then i dont know what is!
Pat yourselves on the back TP buyers, you rock and know a future bargin when you see one
Rant Over There are just too many threads like this, and all they really do is just totally suck!
JD
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All you TPers are retarded for buying 330 in hardware for 100 dollars because an OS that needs to be assembled from nearly scratch isn't out yet!!
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All you TPers are retarded for buying 330 in hardware for 100 dollars because an OS that needs to be assembled from nearly scratch isn't out yet!!
/sarcasm
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no1 cares about your opinion.
If you dont likeit , never visit the TP section.
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no1 cares about your opinion.
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lol i was confused by this too, for he put /sarcasm AFTER his comment he was joking im sure
just to ratify WHY someone should have bought one:
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/HP-TouchPad-Carries-$318-Bill-of-Materials.aspx
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lol i was confused by this too, for he put /sarcasm AFTER his comment he was joking im sure
just to ratify WHY someone should have bought one:
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/HP-TouchPad-Carries-$318-Bill-of-Materials.aspx
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for 500 dollars it was a ,joke. Its slow, the browser is buggy,freezes randomly for up to a few minutes and the cases develop cracks. If I had paid 500 bucks for mine,I would be very upset.
I paid 168 for mine though. For that price,I got a 32gb tablet with technical specifications similar to 500 dollar tablets. It all of the problems except the poor quality plastics are solvable when we get android. Since I'm the sort of person that likes Lessig around with my computers and phones (and now tablets) a tablet with an open is is something I like. Mine seems only to have developed a single crack. In hp s defense I'm told they will fix it,but if I send it in,I'll get a refurb that could be worse than what I have so I fixed it myself by prying the crack apart and applying a uL of a solution of 20% ethyl acetate and 80% tetrahydrofuran (home made plastic glue) and then I drilled a relief hole at the end of the crack with a very very small drill bit. if I had paid 500 I would be very angry at this. For 168 bucks,I can live with it.
Looking at the progress of cm7,its impressive. ICS will be amazing.
still worth the money, and Android's obviously right around the corner
the primary reason i bought mine ($200CAD w/ targus case) was because the hardware for that price is OUTSTANDING! its the same specs as the HTC sensation/evo3d, and i always knew android would be possible because of this. my biggest concerns for android efficency were the partition table and the fact that everything is done in userspace.
...but then again, i knew it was a challenge that CMteam couldnt resist ;P
why is this retards thread still active?
Because we as a community support the mentally challenged and support the diversity in our forums. Mainly because we are bored and hasn't been any real or good information on this forum in 2 months. Just people asking for the alpha of the cm build( that in itself is retarded)
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1. I basically posted would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted- I would like one (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. That said, I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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1. I basically posted I would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted I would like one and at $100 (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. Then again I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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your first post did come off as sour grapes, but this one made up for it lol. damn basement dwelling oreo eaters
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your first post did come off as sour grapes, but this one made up for it lol. damn basement dwelling oreo eaters
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Not sour, but surprised the Touch is more difficult to bake a 100% functional and stable rom than expected. Probably 80% of the people that bought this hoping they can get Android on it will have no clue how, unless installs as easy as an OTA (including root process), which probably is not likely.
As long as people appreciate it is still a bargain without a dead easy Android solution, they still will be happy. I do believe mentioning this in the OP as well. My Flyer and Thrive are great devices, so nothing but good wine here.
Just would like a low cost Christmas present, but another $100 or so will cover that if not.
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If I had posted this in the dev section, I could then kind of possibly seen a just ribbing, but the rudeness is childish. I would say "mentally challenged", but that would insult and demean people that are.
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1. I basically posted would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted- I would like one (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. That said, I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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Thank you for your service. Semper Fi.
rushless said:
1. I basically posted would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted- I would like one (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. That said, I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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obviously if you are even half as smart as you are portraying yourself to be, you would know this isn't a simple as making a ROM. They are importing an entirely new OS. If its so easy and should have already been done, then why couldn't your smart ass do it?
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obviously if you are even half as smart as you are portraying yourself to be, you would know this isn't a simple as making a ROM. They are importing an entirely new OS. If its so easy and should have already been done, then why couldn't your smart ass do it?
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Never said I was smart, but that even apparently "mentally challenged" can get ahead with their education.
The folks that work on CM7 are precisely why I am surprised. Point being, if they can not do it, it is NOT as easy as a lot of people assumed when they got the Touch.
Even if there is not a 100% stable and functioning Android OS, the device has more than enough function to cover the $100. Then again, the Touch would probably be selling pretty well to begin with if HP did not get so warm and fuzzy with Web OS. Seems having Android rather than Web OS to begin with would meant no $100 tablet liquidation sale to begin with.
Their strategic blunder got a LOT of people a great deal on a tablet.
Hate to spoil this love-fest w/data, but what the heck:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5682-Build-Progress-Updated-10-9
I'm out.
rushless, you should check out the build progress thread on rootzwiki
if you really graduated with a degree in computer electronics you should know that writing an OS for a hardware that is made for another OS is a very difficult task because everything has to be written or acquired (by the graces of the manufacturer of either the device or part) from the ground up. This also includes writing the driver and also creating a kernel that is able to understand the communications between the device (hardware) and android.
whether or not they are 100% functional, it is to be noted that they have done ALOT and at an amazing speed.
Just because you haven't heard any news doesn't mean the chances of android diminishing. Fortunately for the rest of the world, you being up to date with the latest info does not affect the chances of progress happening. That's about it.
p.s. thank you for your service for our country.
Not speaking about all reps. But most if not all I have encountered dont know
Sh0t. I call them about carrier billing. It is not working for me for some reason. They first want to check my imei/meid to see if my device and line support it. I am put on hold for 5 minutes and they come back stating they cant find a way for me to access these items. I tell them either on back under battery or in about phone under settings. They so OK, then ask me to read it. We proceed to featuers blocked on my line. They say the only thing blocked is the MBBN. I ask if that will block billing and he says I honestly dont know. I then ask him if I need to contact the FCC. He then asks "What is a FCC?" I say really... so then I have to explain to him what that is. Subject never gets resolved. Moral of this story, might not want to look to VZW for certain support info. Anyone else ever encounter a problem like this with VZW support.
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 2. FU Verizon and all tour BS you throw around.
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Not speaking about all reps. But most if not all I have encountered dont know
Sh0t. I call them about carrier billing. It is not working for me for some reason. They first want to check my imei/meid to see if my device and line support it. I am put on hold for 5 minutes and they come back stating they cant find a way for me to access these items. I tell them either on back under battery or in about phone under settings. They so OK, then ask me to read it. We proceed to featuers blocked on my line. They say the only thing blocked is the MBBN. I ask if that will block billing and he says I honestly dont know. I then ask him if I need to contact the FCC. He then asks "What is a FCC?" I say really... so then I have to explain to him what that is. Subject never gets resolved. Moral of this story, might not want to look to VZW for certain support info. Anyone else ever encounter a problem like this with VZW support.
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 2. FU Verizon and all tour BS you throw around.
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All the time. In store I had a rep tell me that their verizon intuition had "way better" the specs then the note 2. I loled
I think I would have had a natural reflex and slapped them
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 2. FU Verizon and all tour BS you throw around.
A lot of techie stores are like this. The people working there know sqwak and then like to give people that do know stuff dirty looks. Whenever I'm in a Best Buy with my dad and a rep comes over we tell them we're fine and my dad always makes a joke like "I'm fine with him, he knows everything." The reps just glare me down. Most of them stand next to the info tag and read directly from it to the customer they're helping which is pretty sad.
They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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A lot of techie stores are like this. The people working there know sqwak and then like to give people that do know stuff dirty looks. Whenever I'm in a Best Buy with my dad and a rep comes over we tell them we're fine and my dad always makes a joke like "I'm fine with him, he knows everything." The reps just glare me down. Most of them stand next to the info tag and read directly from it to the customer they're helping which is pretty sad.
They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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Any sales experience? Pretty sure 6 months is required. I applied with 1 year of sales and IT experience and said no after they wanted to make me a cashier.
Best Buy is terrible anyway. I ordered the Collector's Edition of Diablo 3 at a store that was closing (found out 3 weeks after I ordered) and got an email that I needed to call them to change the store or ship it to my house. I called them 5 times and opened 2 cases. They couldn't get it changed or shipped to my house because of a glitch it the system. 2 days before the game came out they said they would "send it to the correct department for viewing" and yeah... never got it.
Verizon is terrible about knowing about their phones (in or out of the store). When I bought my Thunderbolt, the first rep said I didn't have a discounted upgrade (literally saw it on her little tablet thing that I did) so I went to the next rep and he didn't know how much internal storage their was. Needless to say, I've ordered online since then.
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A lot of techie stores are like this. The people working there know sqwak and then like to give people that do know stuff dirty looks. Whenever I'm in a Best Buy with my dad and a rep comes over we tell them we're fine and my dad always makes a joke like "I'm fine with him, he knows everything." The reps just glare me down. Most of them stand next to the info tag and read directly from it to the customer they're helping which is pretty sad.
They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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A friend of mine works at the Target Mobile kiosk; he literally knows crap-all about phones, owns an old smartphone he's never turned on, and whenever I'm there talking to him, I end up telling the customers more about the phones they look at than he does. Which is why I work in a car wash, and he tries to sell people tech he doesn't understand. It's practically a joke by now.
Did you really pull the FCC card because of an account snafu?
That makes you as ridiculous as the rep.
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Did you really pull the FCC card because of an account snafu?
That makes you as ridiculous as the rep.
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That's about what i was thinking.
A lot depends on the customers attitude.
A buddy of my Son's works at BestBuy. He and all his coworkers are great guys.
I stop in there all the time to shoot the breeze with those guys.
As long as you don't go in there with a "know it all" attitude, I find the BB guys are all helpful & a pleasure to talk to.
Some of them are tech geeks & others are not so knowledgeable but they don't pay sh!t so that's understandable.
I have had some great tech B.S. sessions concerning ROMs, locked bootloaders etc with these guys.
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Did you really pull the FCC card because of an account snafu?
That makes you as ridiculous as the rep.
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No kidding.
jmorton10 said:
A lot depends on the customers attitude.
A buddy of my Son's works at BestBuy. He and all his coworkers are great guys.
I stop in there all the time to shoot the breeze with those guys.
As long as you don't go in there with a "know it all" attitude, I find the BB guys are all helpful & a pleasure to talk to.
Some of them are tech geeks & others are not so knowledgeable but they don't pay sh!t so that's understandable.
I have had some great tech B.S. sessions concerning ROMs, locked bootloaders etc with these guys.
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No kidding.
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You are right about attitude as well. When I exchanged my DNA for my Note II, I could have berated and slammed the rep working with me that was telling me that KLP source was online, but instead I just lightly conversed with him and ignored it.
As a result, I was in and out quickly without any troubles.
Be careful how you treat people who are in a position to screw you. He could have easily nixed my unlimited data because I was getting in through a loophole.
About 10 years ago I worked for MS doing tech support. If a customer was a douche to me (or acted like a know it all), the resolution immediately became format and reinstall the OS. If they hung up on me, I put it in the notes and as a senior tech, others listened to me. However, if you were acting decent and respectful, I would fix your OS without reinstalling it and potentially losing data.
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They give jobs to 20 year olds that still say "axe" instead of "ask," use other slang/ghetto speak, and don't know the difference between two TVs besides one is LG and LCD the other is Sony and LED, but don't accept the 17 year old that goes to a prestigious high school in the area and who's resume shows tech experience.
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Technically they are both LCDs, just with different backlighting.
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About 10 years ago I worked for MS doing tech support. If a customer was a douche to me (or acted like a know it all), the resolution immediately became format and reinstall the OS. If they hung up on me, I put it in the notes and as a senior tech, others listened to me. However, if you were acting decent and respectful, I would fix your OS without reinstalling it and potentially losing data.
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LOL, I can relate to that.
A number of years ago I did some tech support for HP Pavilion desktops.
Same thing, if the customer was a douche I would simply tell them the only fix was to run the recovery disc which was the same thing as a format and OS reinstall.
Some of the customers where great however and with them I occasionally spent hours on the phone with them, walking a novice through basic PC troubleshooting etc.
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Technically they are both LCDs, just with different backlighting.
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And they probably wouldn't know that
Lol. Was all part of it. He didnt know anything else. In all reality was a test. No lie did it on purpose
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 2. FU Verizon and all tour BS you throw around.
I work at a store and me and one other guy knows what we're talking about...so yeah you get about a 5 percent chance of the reps knowing anything, but as a guy said before me it's easier to be nice to the rep and probably get what you want than to be a Douche and end up getting nothing and possibly losing something.
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No offense to anyone, but if you know enough to be here at XDA there should be no reason to step foot inside a store or call tech support. I buy all my gear online and If I call tech its because I already know it's gonna be a warranty replacement. I do the little song and dance on the phone, and a couple days later the phone shows up.
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I wasnt mean.
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 2. FU Verizon and all tour BS you throw around.
Yep, I really don't get the folks trying to buy stuff in stores or calling tech support. It's literally just someone reading a screen, there is no such thing as tech info you can't find yourself online and quicker than tech support. Sad but true.
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The moral of this story is:
Be nice to the guys at the store or on the phone. They make less than you do, and they have to deal with a hundred people just like you every day. They don't owe you anything but if you're cool they'll help you out. Oddly enough this is a lesson which can be applied to human interactions everywhere in your life.
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No offense to anyone, but if you know enough to be here at XDA there should be no reason to step foot inside a store or call tech support. I buy all my gear online and If I call tech its because I already know it's gonna be a warranty replacement. I do the little song and dance on the phone, and a couple days later the phone shows up.
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All you have to know to be here at XDA is how to read and follow a simple sign up. Not that special.
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Yep, I really don't get the folks trying to buy stuff in stores or calling tech support. It's literally just someone reading a screen, there is no such thing as tech info you can't find yourself online and quicker than tech support. Sad but true.
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Most tech supports have a database of issues that have occurred in the past and how to fix them (not found on Google). There are also things that can happen that is beyond the user's control. I didn't get a delivery notice from Verizon for my Note 2 so I called them and found out there was a bug in the system and we had to resubmit it. If I had your way of thinking on the matter I would have never got my phone.
Just because many people here at XDA don't need tech support, doesn't mean the majority of people don't. You can see this in most mod/ROM threads. Lots of people ask questions because they have issues and the communuty helps them out (basically tech support). I work in IT and some people don't know anything about electronics eventhough they work with them everyday.
Not trying to attack you guys or anything, just trying to bring the real world to a tech forum since I help them every day.
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I was passing by on my way from the One X+ Forums, and I recently got confirmation from this wonderful man that my phone would be receiving the 4.2.2 update by the end of the year.. While browsing through his Twitter feed, I came across this tweet from him, which at least confirms that a plan is being worked out to release the same update for you guys. That is the same response he gave about the One X+ not too long ago, but now that has been confirmed, so I would expect a full confirmation soon for the EVO. It looks like you guys haven't been forgotten after all. :highfive:
Update 1: I contacted him directly about it, and got a slightly different and more vague response here. He won't confirm anything, but he says he is "working on it", so take it for what you will. I still believe it will receive the update, although @Fifth313ment is willing to bet $100 that it won't.
Update 2: We've got an official comment from the President of HTC USA here. It's still very vague, but it looks like we'll be hearing about a possible update plan soon.
Update 3: It's official folks! https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/386284246521769984 And it's a version newer than most were even expecting! I believe @Fifth313ment owes me a healthy chunk of money and an apology to HTC. ;D
Update 4 (11/26/13): It looks like the update is still on track for the end of the year, but a delay is not out of the question. It is in internal lab testing right now though. https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/405422654338777088
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I was passing by on my way from the One X+ Forums, and I recently got confirmation from this wonderful man that my phone would be receiving the 4.2.2 update by the end of the year.. While browsing through his Twitter feed, I came across this tweet from him, which at least confirms that a plan is being worked out to release the same update for you guys. That is the same response he gave about the One X+ not too long ago, but now that has been confirmed, so I would expect a full confirmation soon for the EVO. It looks like you guys haven't been forgotten after all. :highfive:
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I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.
Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!
+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!
+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!
WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.
5th
On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
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I won't believe anything until it is actually released.
That said, it is still too little too late and I will be moving on from HTC.
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On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 4
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He directly answered a question about the Evo LTE and said they were working on it internally and with Sprint. It's vague, but it's something.
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I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.
Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!
+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!
+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!
WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.
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I don't have this phone, so I can't say for sure if the update breaks root or S-OFF. Someone will have to test it first.
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On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
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I won't believe anything until it is actually released.
That said, it is still too little too late and I will be moving on from HTC.
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I understand your guy's frustrations. For the longest time, we over at the HOX+ section didn't believe that we'd get the 4.2.2 update, but we did. And now that 4.2.2 has been confirmed for the HOX and almost confirmed for the EVO, I believe that HTC won't leave you guys behind that quickly. At least not until after the 4.2.2 update.
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I don't have this phone, so I can't say for sure if the update breaks root or S-OFF. Someone will have to test it first.
I understand your guy's frustrations. For the longest time, we over at the HOX+ section didn't believe that we'd get the 4.2.2 update, but we did. And now that 4.2.2 has been confirmed for the HOX and almost confirmed for the EVO, I believe that HTC won't leave you guys behind that quickly. At least not until after the 4.2.2 update.
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Did you see my post above? I STILL can't send MMS messages without going through a huge task or another app altogether. HTC doesn't care about their customers sadly. They will leave us in the dust, I'm willing to bet $100 and start a pool if anyone is interested?! LTE still sucks on the phone as does signal strength. I used to get a better signal with my OG EVO and I have a list of other issues. But I'm stuck on my contact and there is not much I can do for now. I can tell you that I will never give HTC another dollar of my money as long as I live! WindyCityRockr keep up the good work bro!
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Just because the HOX got the update doesn't mean we will. We're not the same breed. It's like assuming that because we share so much DNA with chimps, we will be able to have chimp babies too. Not happening until it happens, which, in all likelyhood, will be never.
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I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.
Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!
+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!
+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!
WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.
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It locks your bootloader but you still have s off
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3.17.651.4 rolling out now. Not much in it.
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I'm not seeing anything in your link to suggest we'll be getting 4.2.2 or sense 5. Do you have a more direct link you could share to that information?
All I see is a reply from him regarding the Evo LTE saying, "No worries, nothing confirmed yet..."
With the keyword being "nothing".
He didn't mention 4.2.2 or Sense 5, or that we would even be getting anything at all.
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I'm not seeing anything in your link to suggest we'll be getting 4.2.2 or sense 5. Do you have a more direct link you could share to that information?
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The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.
Edit: Yes, he did make that clarifying statement afterwards, but he did confirm work at one point in time. Most likely he is waiting on a specific timeline, as his response is similar to many other phones before the update was official.
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The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.
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To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.
We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?
If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
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To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.
We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?
If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
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I completely understand. I'm probably being too optimistic here with my hopes for HTC. They, and most manufacturers, have bad track records when it comes to these kinds of updates, though HTC has improved recently. Improvement unfortunately means already 1 year old software released as a new update, but it is progress towards the ultimate goal of quick Android updates. There is most likely a lot of PR going on here, but he did confirm they are working with the carriers, one of which, I'm again assuming, is Sprint, as they're working with AT&T for updates on similarly older phones, such as the One X and One X+. Yes, they are very different phones, but the One X+ was a mid-cycle phone and has a considerably smaller user base, and they are still releasing 4.2.2, so that gives me some hope for the EVO.
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The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.
Edit: Yes, he did make that clarifying statement afterwards, but he did confirm work at one point in time. Most likely he is waiting on a specific timeline, as his response is similar to many other phones before the update was official.
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xHausx said:
To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.
We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?
If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
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xHausx I tweeted to HTC as well and you are correct, that is the normal PR spin, I got the SAME response. WindyCityRockr, do not forget all of our talented DEVs that will bring us 4.2.2 & 4.3 to our phones. They are keeping it alive!
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xHausx I tweeted to HTC as well and you are correct, that is the normal PR spin, I got the SAME response. WindyCityRockr, do not forget all of our talented DEVs that will bring us 4.2.2 & 4.3 to our phones. They are keeping it alive!
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I am by no means, at all, trying to diminish the work that the Devs have done. They are some of the most important people for maintaining a device and keeping it up to date. I'm just trying to be optimistic about HTC's prospects for the phone. There isn't very much evidence at this point, but they haven't outright denied it, which makes it more of a possibility than most people around here have made it seem.
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I was actually kinda expecting this from them. I got shat on with the Hero and was really not expecting much in the way of constant support from HTC. Especially when all you hear in the news stories is how badly they are doing as a company. I guess it's a good thing I've grown tired of Sense anyways.
Update from President of HTC USA in the OP. Again, nothing confirmed, but he did corroborate the developer's original tweet in that they are working on finalizing a plan for the update.
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Update from President of HTC USA in the OP. Again, nothing confirmed, but he did corroborate the developer's original tweet in that they are working on finalizing a plan for the update.
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Would require no plan if they were to drop support entirely. Optimistic since the one x shares the same hardware.
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Would require no plan if they were to drop support entirely. Optimistic since the one x shares the same hardware.
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IMHO, they are working on it. things could change, but the president of the company doesn't tweet that unless it is getting worked on.
who knows whose hands the update is in right now (htc or sprints) but it is likely that this device moves up in priority now that the One has 4.3.
I can't think of many devices more popular on sprint that are more popular than this other than iphone (os updates go much quicker), HTC one (already up to date), the GS3/4 (not sure where they are)>
Fingers crossed for maybe middle november.
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IMHO, they are working on it. things could change, but the president of the company doesn't tweet that unless it is getting worked on.
who knows whose hands the update is in right now (htc or sprints) but it is likely that this device moves up in priority now that the One has 4.3.
I can't think of many devices more popular on sprint that are more popular than this other than iphone (os updates go much quicker), HTC one (already up to date), the GS3/4 (not sure where they are)>
Fingers crossed for maybe middle november.
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Would be a win to beat out the gs3
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