Just bought the Verizon moto e at best buy and have it working on t mobile but want to install custom roms.
Sadly it does not. Just bought mine today as a secondary device.
I am just hoping that someone can do something to unlock that bootloader (could the stagefright vulnerability be used to do some things since it does have some root capabilities?) or at least get the device loki'd.
Christopher876 said:
Sadly it does not. Just bought mine today as a secondary device.
I am just hoping that someone can do something to unlock that bootloader (could the stagefright vulnerability be used to do some things since it does have some root capabilities?) or at least get the device loki'd.
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i bought it for the same reason at best buy to uses as a backup for myself or a friend of family member. Just like you i was curious about rooting and custom roms for it. Sadly i found out by trying to follow the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and when i went to Motorola website for the unlock code it said my device couldn't be unlocked :crying:
Before i picked up the Moto e i seen on XDA the Verizon variant could be used on any service so i didn't even think twice to see if it was unlock-able before trying.
Just now wile typing this it actually got me thinking and the thought of the Verizon variant being able to be used on. got me wondering.
Under the hood of the Verizon Moto e is the hardware exactly the same as the other variants or are there more radios for the Verizon network? I ask this because if its the same would there be someway to install the international variant bootloader on the Verizon variant and then unlock it?
if that sounds very stupid im sorry lol. I don't know very much about unlocking devices besides how to follow tutorials of how to unlock a device. But i do know how to flash and install things im kind of a flashaholic thats one reason i looked to unlock this device right away
Verizon as is already annoys me by how there devices have locked bootlaoders thankfully someone found a workaround for the G3, but seeing how this is a prepaid device that customers pay in full for i don't see why they have to lock it down...
$9.99 from bestbuy, it's the best budget phone. I made it work under t-mobile.
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i bought it for the same reason at best buy to uses as a backup for myself or a friend of family member. Just like you i was curious about rooting and custom roms for it. Sadly i found out by trying to follow the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and when i went to Motorola website for the unlock code it said my device couldn't be unlocked :crying:
Before i picked up the Moto e i seen on XDA the Verizon variant could be used on any service so i didn't even think twice to see if it was unlock-able before trying.
Just now wile typing this it actually got me thinking and the thought of the Verizon variant being able to be used on. got me wondering.
Under the hood of the Verizon Moto e is the hardware exactly the same as the other variants or are there more radios for the Verizon network? I ask this because if its the same would there be someway to install the international variant bootloader on the Verizon variant and then unlock it?
if that sounds very stupid im sorry lol. I don't know very much about unlocking devices besides how to follow tutorials of how to unlock a device. But i do know how to flash and install things im kind of a flashaholic thats one reason i looked to unlock this device right away
Verizon as is already annoys me by how there devices have locked bootlaoders thankfully someone found a workaround for the G3, but seeing how this is a prepaid device that customers pay in full for i don't see why they have to lock it down...
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Can't overwrite the bootloader since it is locked, the partition is locked to read. However, I was thinking, since it has that 5.1 update, it must've written to the system partition and which case I wonder if a fake update of some kind be used. Kingoroot also somehow can mount and write to the system partition through their rooting process, if someone can figure how it does that, there is hope for this version.
There is also the possibility of someone developing loki for this phone too, which would bring at least some custom action to this.
Verizon does some weird things, both it and AT&T, I just don't understand them. AT&T locks down the device and sometimes they even get updates that were released for the phone. Verizon declines other phones which people want. Anyways, we only paid $10 for phone, couldn't say no to that, right? Unlocked SIM and if they do find a workaround, just cherry on top of the icing.
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$9.99 from bestbuy, it's the best budget phone. I made it work under t-mobile.
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+1 - cant beat the price.
With so many of these out there now, I think its only a matter of time until someone figures out the bootloader and rom questions.
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+1 - cant beat the price.
With so many of these out there now, I think its only a matter of time until someone figures out the bootloader and rom questions.
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I hope so, would really suck to stay on 5.1 and miss out on any security updates, etc.
But from the looks of scanning through part of the forum, no seems to be taking on the task of figuring out a way to do so. The one guy that was trying had school that took over his time and then there are no other threads about it.
Yeah, I hope that you are right that all these new devices out there will spark something.
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Hey,
I have recently bought an Xperia Z ultra, and when i was about to CM11 it, i found out that the boot loader unlock allowed is NO.
Now where is live, i brought the phone through and import shop. so the procedure to obtain a operator key and send to Sony is impossible.
I can access my fastboot, i have even rooted my phone, but i really want custom roms and kernels to be an option.
I know that the usual answer to this is that its impossible. But i would appreciate if we discuss it to progress on this as i have seen too many people with this issue and i think it needs a solution. I would request the admin/moderators to keep this thread alive.
Now does anyone know why is it impossible ? is it hardware or software ?
any directions or people that i can personally request to work on this ? any leads ? i am really desperate, i really cant afford to spend that much on a phone again.
is the Xposed Framework any possible solution for this ?
any ideas information is helpful......
There is no solution, or one being worked on that I know of. In one thread it has been asked and a very good hardware hacker said that even taking the back off and putting a Xperia into it's maintenance mode you cant unlock a BL for these locked devices.
Have a read of the hard brick thread for the details
there seems to be a way, just a thought.
Upon on reseaerch, i am finding out a Linux command called kexec seems to be favour here. Since it can bypass kernel and force a custom one...
Work in progress for z1 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462799
Just leaving this link for other users like me, who might be searching... And also requesting to post replies here to see how much demand we have for this issue..
sp has something going on too
Xperia sp seems to have been worked upon in this matter recently http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377972&page=7
kexec for ultra
Kexec for the ultra itself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615708&page=4
Are there any developers I can call out/plead to regarding this matter?? its really frustrating to have this much of a powerful device and not play with it. I miss CM.
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I had no idea that the sony z ultra had some units that couldn't be unlocked. why would sony do this, it says being able to unlock your bootloader is important to sony. They even gave me an unlocked code from their site. I bought an factory unlocked phone, so stupid that this one here can be unlocked and that one can't. so am I stuck with a locked bootloader now? I sold my Lg because of this crap now I am dealing with it again ****
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I had no idea that the sony z ultra had some units that couldn't be unlocked. why would sony do this, it says being able to unlock your bootloader is important to sony. They even gave me an unlocked code from their site. I bought an factory unlocked phone, so stupid that this one here can be unlocked and that one can't. so am I stuck with a locked bootloader now? I sold my Lg because of this crap now I am dealing with it again ****
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It's your carrier that has locked it (Rogers, i'm guessing?). There are only a couple of carriers that locks down the bootloader, like Rogers, O2 (i think) and another one that we're aware of.
It was bought factory unlocked from store no carrier involved which makes it even more crazy. I guess I will sell this model and get different one. Does the gpe have this stupid restriction on its model. I really like the 6.4 inch screen and don't want to go down in size. I am already going to get the nexus 6 so I definitely want a z ultra also
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It was bought factory unlocked from store no carrier involved which makes it even more crazy. I guess I will sell this model and get different one. Does the gpe have this stupid restriction on its model. I really like the 6.4 inch screen and don't want to go down in size. I am already going to get the nexus 6 so I definitely want a z ultra also
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It's shouldn't be locked. Only a couple of carriers locks the bootloader. The GPe's bootloader is unlockable.
@BrownDog99 type *#*#7378523#*#* and check if you haven't. I don't think I've seen a factory one they is bootloader locked. What model? And from where did you buy it?
Ya i tried that it says no bootloader unlock. I bought it from a used cell store in toronto. It has a factory unlocked sticker on it, with no carrier apps installed or anything. Maybe it was a carrier phone, weird it came factory unlocked and with no carrier apps installed. I rooted it and put a dual recovery for lb and of course installed xposed. No custom kernel for me I guess. Too bad. I think it is Rogers and Bell that lock down the bootloader. I am impressed with the speed of it for a 800 snapdragon.
Can anyone explain why AT&T won’t allow Motorola to unlock the bootloader for the Moto E? I just picked one up for $50 from Walmart (it’s branded for Cricket - had it sim unlocked for $2.68). Thought I’d have a nice, cheap toy to play with but since the bootloader can’t be unlocked I can’t do much to it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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Can anyone explain why AT&T won’t allow Motorola to unlock the bootloader for the Moto E? I just picked one up for $50 from Walmart (it’s branded for Cricket - had it sim unlocked for $2.68). Thought I’d have a nice, cheap toy to play with but since the bootloader can’t be unlocked I can’t do much to it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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Yup after my xt1022 smashed,I picked up this toy.?.I think sunshine app can help us.but it is pretty expensive.
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ashwin007 said:
Yup after my xt1022 smashed,I picked up this toy..I think sunshine app can help us.but it is pretty expensive.
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Sunshine does not work on cricket xt1021 from Walmart, at the present time. I just tried. Maybe later.
Also discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e/help/help-moto-e-xt1021-cricket-unlock-t2942093
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Thought I’d have a nice, cheap toy to play with but since the bootloader can’t be unlocked I can’t do much to it.
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And that's the reason it's locked.
The only way it can sell for $50 (or $10 on Cyber Monday for the Tracfone XT830C variant) is if the carrier subsidizes it--at those prices, they're selling at a loss. So they need a way to discourage people from buying it with no intention of actually using it on their service. And one way to do that is to lock down the bootloader. You can get it with no carrier SIM lock and no bootloader lock if you buy from Motorola, but you'll be paying the full price, without the benefit of the carrier's subsidy.
@ code65536
I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree. The locked bootloader only prevents me from rooting it. I got the phone sim unlocked for $2 and my wife is using it on a different network. Hence, they took a loss selling it for $50 AND now they don’t even get my monthly business. The locked bootloader does not keep me on their network. If that is their reason, it is flawed logic and not doing what they intended. At this point, why prevent me (us) from unlocking the bootloader.
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@ code65536
I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree. The locked bootloader only prevents me from rooting it. I got the phone sim unlocked for $2 and my wife is using it on a different network. Hence, they took a loss selling it for $50 AND now they don’t even get my monthly business. The locked bootloader does not keep me on their network. If that is their reason, it is flawed logic and not doing what they intended. At this point, why prevent me (us) from unlocking the bootloader.
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That's why I said a locked bootloader was only one of the means. Carrier SIM locking discourages use on another carrier (the Motos are easy to unlock but many other phones are harder), and bootloader locking discourages people who have no intention of using it on any carrier and just want a device for the hardware.
Obviously these are imperfect since I bought a XT830C with no intention of using it as a phone at all, but limited deterrent is better than zero deterrent for them. For example, Consumer Cellular offers a 2nd gen Moto G for a substantial discount from the vanilla XT1064. With an easy to defeat SIM and an unlocked bootloader, it's easy for people to just convert it to a regular XT1064, and everyone at SlickDeals who buys it is not planning to use it on CC. People would still do that if they can't remove CC's customizations, but not as many.
Also, bootloader locking protects Cricket's “features” like their crippled tethering. Again, not perfect since you can use a non-Cricket phone for that...
Anyway, I am not saying that I agree with this practice (I was hoping to do more with my XT830C, but can't). Just offering the “insight” that the first post asked for.
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@ code65536
I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree. The locked bootloader only prevents me from rooting it. I got the phone sim unlocked for $2 and my wife is using it on a different network. Hence, they took a loss selling it for $50 AND now they don’t even get my monthly business. The locked bootloader does not keep me on their network. If that is their reason, it is flawed logic and not doing what they intended. At this point, why prevent me (us) from unlocking the bootloader.
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Excuse me, where did you unlock it for 2 dollars?
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And that's the reason it's locked.
The only way it can sell for $50 (or $10 on Cyber Monday for the Tracfone XT830C variant) is if the carrier subsidizes it--at those prices, they're selling at a loss. So they need a way to discourage people from buying it with no intention of actually using it on their service. And one way to do that is to lock down the bootloader. You can get it with no carrier SIM lock and no bootloader lock if you buy from Motorola, but you'll be paying the full price, without the benefit of the carrier's subsidy.
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That has nothing to do with it. Bootloader unlocking isn't sim unlocking, so I don't see your point. In fact, they've failed (based on what you said), since I AM using it on a different carrier other than Cricket, since I was able to sim unlock it.
ATT is just making sure most of their phones get locked now. They likely want to force people to use their worthless software and preventing bricking phones. The only recent one that hasn't been shut down is the HTC m8 as far as I know.
edit: saw you're second post " bootloader locking discourages people who have no intention of using it on any carrier and just want a device for the hardware."
Still, bootloader locking only discourages small niche of people. You don't need to root to make this a useful $50 small tablet. I can't imagine that is the main thought that goes through their heads when they decide to lock it.
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That has nothing to do with it. Bootloader unlocking isn't sim unlocking, so I don't see your point. In fact, they've failed (based on what you said), since I AM using it on a different carrier other than Cricket, since I was able to sim unlock it.
ATT is just making sure most of their phones get locked now. They likely want to force people to use their worthless software and preventing bricking phones. The only recent one that hasn't been shut down is the HTC m8 as far as I know.
edit: saw you're second post " bootloader locking discourages people who have no intention of using it on any carrier and just want a device for the hardware."
Still, bootloader locking only discourages small niche of people. You don't need to root to make this a useful $50 small tablet. I can't imagine that is the main thought that goes through their heads when they decide to lock it.
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also no lollipop update until now, criket raped us, i hate them.
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Has anyone found a workaround for this yet? Have a Moto E XT1021 for Cricket and am not able to root because of this ... help!
I just simply do not understand why it cannot be unlocked, because I mean a lot of other phone's bootloaders are locked and a lot of them are unlocked just using adb... I could be missing something, don't understand. I also heard you can make custom roms if you build it on the stock kernel, is this true?
Generally speaking it is up to the carrier to lock the bootloader if they wish it to be locked. Most carriers opt to lock it down so they "can ensure a good experience for all their users". T-mobile has been leaving the bootloader unlocked recently this is why, with the t-mobile variant of the v10 you can just issue a fastboot command and then go to flashing. Nexus devices are also in this category, as well as a lot of international variants.
When a carrier decides to lock the bootloader down it has to generally be cracked or have a factory unlock method like that of htc with the Java card. If it gets unlocked at all its most likely going to be a long wait unless someone jumps in that is intimately familiar with the chipset/bootloader.
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Generally speaking it is up to the carrier to lock the bootloader if they wish it to be locked. Most carriers opt to lock it down so they "can ensure a good experience for all their users". T-mobile has been leaving the bootloader unlocked recently this is why, with the t-mobile variant of the v10 you can just issue a fastboot command and then go to flashing. Nexus devices are also in this category, as well as a lot of international variants.
When a carrier decides to lock the bootloader down it has to generally be cracked or have a factory unlock method like that of htc with the Java card. If it gets unlocked at all its most likely going to be a long wait unless someone jumps in that is intimately familiar with the chipset/bootloader.
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I mean, I would really love to become a developer for these sort of things, I just don't know where to start with Androids. I am really familiar with PC repair and Windows, Linux, Mac OS (ugh not that os) and would love to learn how to master Android, but it is very different from what I have been doing. Do you know where to start learning? I would really love to help.
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I just simply do not understand why it cannot be unlocked, because I mean a lot of other phone's bootloaders are locked and a lot of them are unlocked just using adb... I could be missing something, don't understand. I also heard you can make custom roms if you build it on the stock kernel, is this true?
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Because it's AT&T, move to TMO and enjoy the freedom.
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Charliebill33 said:
Because it's AT&T, move to TMO and enjoy the freedom.
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Oh trust me, I would if I could. But im 14 and chained against a wall to AT&T. I got a free phone, can't complain... but I can complain about the carrier. This is unacceptable. I can see why they would want the boot loader locked, and why it is not a priority to have it unlocked.
Charliebill33 said:
Because it's AT&T, move to TMO and enjoy the freedom.
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And even if I did switch carriers, I would have to get another phone, as the software will still be the same and the bootloader will as well.
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Oh trust me, I would if I could. But im 14 and chained against a wall to AT&T. I got a free phone, can't complain... but I can complain about the carrier. This is unacceptable. I can see why they would want the boot loader locked, and why it is not a priority to have it unlocked.
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Sorry then I was being flip, I recall 14 but it was a long time ago. The V10 is a great device but the "problem" is that it's rather limited release, so there simply isn't the install base for lots of folks to be modding. I have not paid close attention to what has gone on with AT&T's version but do recall seeing something about the international version recently being rooted.
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Sorry then I was being flip, I recall 14 but it was a long time ago. The V10 is a great device but the "problem" is that it's rather limited release, so there simply isn't the install base for lots of folks to be modding. I have not paid close attention to what has gone on with AT&T's version but do recall seeing something about the international version recently being rooted.
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Yeah, all models have root atm even mine right now. And I am rooted. The bootloader is still locked tho.
Hello guys, i was looking in different sources of how to root my lg G5 h831..
I would like to know if there is any way to root this before i decides to change it....
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Hello guys, i was looking in different sources of how to root my lg G5 h831..
I would like to know if there is any way to root this before i decides to change it....
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unfortunately theres no way to root H831 as of now due to locked bootloader.
Apparently I have been able to root my H831...
I recently had my 4 month old LG 5 overheat and quit working. I returned it to the Cell phone provider (FreedomvMobile) who sent it to Futuretel in Ontario as the authorized repair centre in Canada.
They have informed me that I have rooted the phone and therefore it is not covered under warranty. I did not know what rooting was until I googled it. I have not rooted the phone. They are refusing to fix the phone. They say that the test of the phone is conclusive and that it was rooted. It was not. Does anyone have any idea if there are other causes that would make the technician at Futuretel think that it was rooted? I need some information before I go even further with this ridiculous response from Futuretel. Help!
Futureteller said:
I recently had my 4 month old LG 5 overheat and quit working. I returned it to the Cell phone provider (FreedomvMobile) who sent it to Futuretel in Ontario as the authorized repair centre in Canada.
They have informed me that I have rooted the phone and therefore it is not covered under warranty. I did not know what rooting was until I googled it. I have not rooted the phone. They are refusing to fix the phone. They say that the test of the phone is conclusive and that it was rooted. It was not. Does anyone have any idea if there are other causes that would make the technician at Futuretel think that it was rooted? I need some information before I go even further with this ridiculous response from Futuretel. Help!
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The tech is scamming you. Been there done that. Send a message to LG global through Facebook. It will get replaced. They do not want a bad rep.
Petition
Sign the petition and spread the word guys, we are really close! change.org/p/lg-electronics-unlock-lg-g5-bootloader-for-all-varients
I just signed
Any word on Canadian bootloader yet?
Well, I went and signed for all it is worth. I still have a G5 in my collection and I would love to get it onto Lineage and let my son use it.
Really would like to root my phone as well :/
Still no news on rooting h831??
That is a good question. There was finally an update to Android 8.0 for our devices but I wonder if it made it so they can be unlocked and whatnot...
I don't want to be negative, but I guess in the end we will have to sell this device and buy another one, just to have an unlocked bootloader and root
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I don't want to be negative, but I guess in the end we will have to sell this device and buy another one, just to have an unlocked bootloader and root
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Well, I and my wife upgraded to Galaxy S9s this spring due to a seriously unbeatable deal. Had the G5 supported the AWS bands used by the new carrier we switched to, she would still have been using it but alas, nope.
We still have her LG G5 and my son uses it as an ipod of sorts. I would love to root the thing just so newer OS' can be installed on it as it will never be a phone again so I don't need to worry about things like tap to pay and such. I guess it getting to Android 8 will have to do.
Yeah, I would love to root if possible too but I understand that our device is not popular enough just as H850 is or H830.
Would be trying to sell this device and buy another one then...
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I understand that our device is not popular enough just as H850 is or H830.
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Ya, see, there is one general complaint that fits this... I hate that there are so many damned models of each of the main model names... As in there is never really JUST an LG G5 or JUST a Galaxy S9.
If you look HARD enough there is a way to ROOT a H831. You have to use Marshmallow 6.0 and follow a small tutorial that you will find if you look HARD. I am not sure if you can roll back to v6.0 so you can force root but hey all you have to do is LOOK!
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If you look HARD enough there is a way to ROOT a H831. You have to use Marshmallow 6.0 and follow a small tutorial that you will find if you look HARD. I am not sure if you can roll back to v6.0 so you can force root but hey all you have to do is LOOK!
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Can you provide a link? I've searched for months w/ no success.
You can't downgrade from Oreo to Marshmallow so no root
I have looked everywhere and even tried the motorola official site. Is there absolutely NO WAY to unlock this phone? I would love to give LineageOS a try on this phone as it's a bit outdated. However, I have spent countless hours trying to figure out a way to brute force it to unlock the bootloader. I don't understand why you can do it easily on other models but not on this one? It even shows support for LinageOS on the official website. So I'm super confused.
Has anyone found a way to actually unlock or install any custom roms on this particular phone? Any help would be great. I already tried the official motorola website and it saids it's not supported. Which I think is just a bunch of **** and a money grab honestly.
Doh I just realized this may have been better in the ROM forum. LOL oh well the question still applies.
Motorola Unlocker should be usable by a lot of new devices: https://en-us.support.motorola.com/...e-supported-by-the-bootloader-unlock-program?
Check if your phone supports it.
Reelin said:
Motorola Unlocker should be usable by a lot of new devices: https://en-us.support.motorola.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/~/what-devices-are-supported-by-the-bootloader-unlock-program?
Check if your phone supports it.
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Hey thanks for responding.
I already tried this on the official website (the link you provided) and it said it couldn't be unlocked or it's not supported. I find that hard to believe and honestly think it's a cheap way to just force us to buy new phones. This is why I was asking here if there are any other possible methods to unlock the bootloader for the XT2075-2 Moto One 5G from Cricket Wireless.
Darn guess not What a shame.
Hello I have the same phone and as I was told the problem is that cricket and atyt phones do not allow the unlocking of the bootloader