Hey,
I have recently bought an Xperia Z ultra, and when i was about to CM11 it, i found out that the boot loader unlock allowed is NO.
Now where is live, i brought the phone through and import shop. so the procedure to obtain a operator key and send to Sony is impossible.
I can access my fastboot, i have even rooted my phone, but i really want custom roms and kernels to be an option.
I know that the usual answer to this is that its impossible. But i would appreciate if we discuss it to progress on this as i have seen too many people with this issue and i think it needs a solution. I would request the admin/moderators to keep this thread alive.
Now does anyone know why is it impossible ? is it hardware or software ?
any directions or people that i can personally request to work on this ? any leads ? i am really desperate, i really cant afford to spend that much on a phone again.
is the Xposed Framework any possible solution for this ?
any ideas information is helpful......
There is no solution, or one being worked on that I know of. In one thread it has been asked and a very good hardware hacker said that even taking the back off and putting a Xperia into it's maintenance mode you cant unlock a BL for these locked devices.
Have a read of the hard brick thread for the details
there seems to be a way, just a thought.
Upon on reseaerch, i am finding out a Linux command called kexec seems to be favour here. Since it can bypass kernel and force a custom one...
Work in progress for z1 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462799
Just leaving this link for other users like me, who might be searching... And also requesting to post replies here to see how much demand we have for this issue..
sp has something going on too
Xperia sp seems to have been worked upon in this matter recently http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377972&page=7
kexec for ultra
Kexec for the ultra itself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615708&page=4
Are there any developers I can call out/plead to regarding this matter?? its really frustrating to have this much of a powerful device and not play with it. I miss CM.
unlocked bootloader if it says no
I had no idea that the sony z ultra had some units that couldn't be unlocked. why would sony do this, it says being able to unlock your bootloader is important to sony. They even gave me an unlocked code from their site. I bought an factory unlocked phone, so stupid that this one here can be unlocked and that one can't. so am I stuck with a locked bootloader now? I sold my Lg because of this crap now I am dealing with it again ****
BrownDog99 said:
I had no idea that the sony z ultra had some units that couldn't be unlocked. why would sony do this, it says being able to unlock your bootloader is important to sony. They even gave me an unlocked code from their site. I bought an factory unlocked phone, so stupid that this one here can be unlocked and that one can't. so am I stuck with a locked bootloader now? I sold my Lg because of this crap now I am dealing with it again ****
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It's your carrier that has locked it (Rogers, i'm guessing?). There are only a couple of carriers that locks down the bootloader, like Rogers, O2 (i think) and another one that we're aware of.
It was bought factory unlocked from store no carrier involved which makes it even more crazy. I guess I will sell this model and get different one. Does the gpe have this stupid restriction on its model. I really like the 6.4 inch screen and don't want to go down in size. I am already going to get the nexus 6 so I definitely want a z ultra also
BrownDog99 said:
It was bought factory unlocked from store no carrier involved which makes it even more crazy. I guess I will sell this model and get different one. Does the gpe have this stupid restriction on its model. I really like the 6.4 inch screen and don't want to go down in size. I am already going to get the nexus 6 so I definitely want a z ultra also
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It's shouldn't be locked. Only a couple of carriers locks the bootloader. The GPe's bootloader is unlockable.
@BrownDog99 type *#*#7378523#*#* and check if you haven't. I don't think I've seen a factory one they is bootloader locked. What model? And from where did you buy it?
Ya i tried that it says no bootloader unlock. I bought it from a used cell store in toronto. It has a factory unlocked sticker on it, with no carrier apps installed or anything. Maybe it was a carrier phone, weird it came factory unlocked and with no carrier apps installed. I rooted it and put a dual recovery for lb and of course installed xposed. No custom kernel for me I guess. Too bad. I think it is Rogers and Bell that lock down the bootloader. I am impressed with the speed of it for a 800 snapdragon.
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okay so i dont know how this may shed some light to any devs on this device, but i have a vodafone smlocked xplay and i downgraded to obtain root on generic uk then update ota to 2.3.3 with root carried over. so i got a bit bored refreshing the recovery and cm7 thread on arc forum and decided to go ahead and try unlock the bootloader on my phone via sony ericsson guide. and well.... it worked. i think. im not sure how to test if the bootloader is unlocked now but i just did the procedure and it said it finished so
thoughts on this???
EDIT so i just rebooted after flash and my phone is asking for setup details again so i think this means i have a bootloader unlocked simlocked xperia play???????????????
so you got fastboot? blue led?
Sent from my E15i using XDA App
I had fastboot blue led when I plugged in usb and held the search button while doing so. I flashed the loader using Sony unlocker and it rebooted the device with fresh Rom and I had to go through standard setup wizard first time round
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
blagus do you want to IM about anything, i really want to see progress on this device and it seems a very quiet forum at the moment. any tests you want me to run i will happily do and anything you need of me i will do if possible if it helps you guys along in ur missions
this proves simlock doesnt totally rule out bootloader unlockability
so i did a fastboot devices check after flashing the bootloader through the official site and this is what it came back with so i presume that means i have an unlocked bootloader now??
what we really need to figure out is whether this is down to the fact that either 1)
vodafone dont simlock their first set of shipped handsets or 2) simlock does not totally mean you cannot unlock the bootloader of your phone
iv had a few phones from vodafone since the xperia x1 (which came sim free even on contract) but my desire hd definitely was simlocked and branded to vodafone (cid VODAP001) so now i leave it to any devs this may be of interest to to contact me or post thoughts in this thread
meh
yup voda play is unlocked SIM free model, I have two
excited over nothing then
waz000000 said:
yup voda play is unlocked SIM free model, I have two
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damn i thought it would be the same as the rest because i could not get an orange sim to work in the phone... god bless vodafone for not really caring what you do with your phone lol
sorry for the false alarm if that is the case
Seems like Vodafone Plays aren't SIM-locked for some strange reason... probably because they want these Xperias to be unlockable to attract customers
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Seems like Vodafone Plays aren't SIM-locked for some strange reason... probably because they want these Xperias to be unlockable to attract customers
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lol no doubt, take it you have seen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066266 that. so now i have unlocked boot and root, is there anything i can test for you guys to bring back some results. i feel like i need to be doing something to contribute like i have on my other devices when they were in infancy stages.
Hi all,
I've been considering getting the Z2 Tablet, but (despite the current lack of major ROMs and development for it), the deal-breaker for me is having a tablet which can have the bootloader unlocked.
I wanted to ask if anyone has got/seen a Z2 Tablet which has the rooting status set to "no", or cannot unlock their bootloader? I only ask because I have the Xperia T which came SIM and Bootloader locked and I cannot install custom kernels on it and I want to be completely sure of the fact that there is no chance of this Tablet being permanently Bootloader locked.
Thanks!
Peace out,
-Galcactus.
Firstly, the tablet has only just come out in some areas and it still is not available in most of the world - and we only just got root over the weekend. So roms/development for it is right at the beginning - give it time.
As far as unlocking goes - they 'should' all be unlockable - but if you are buying from a carrier in some countries they might lock it down. I can't see why any wifi-only ones would not be unlockable and in fact I haven't heard of any not being unlockable (although as I said it is only just released so there aren't a lot out there yet)
Just bought the Verizon moto e at best buy and have it working on t mobile but want to install custom roms.
Sadly it does not. Just bought mine today as a secondary device.
I am just hoping that someone can do something to unlock that bootloader (could the stagefright vulnerability be used to do some things since it does have some root capabilities?) or at least get the device loki'd.
Christopher876 said:
Sadly it does not. Just bought mine today as a secondary device.
I am just hoping that someone can do something to unlock that bootloader (could the stagefright vulnerability be used to do some things since it does have some root capabilities?) or at least get the device loki'd.
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i bought it for the same reason at best buy to uses as a backup for myself or a friend of family member. Just like you i was curious about rooting and custom roms for it. Sadly i found out by trying to follow the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and when i went to Motorola website for the unlock code it said my device couldn't be unlocked :crying:
Before i picked up the Moto e i seen on XDA the Verizon variant could be used on any service so i didn't even think twice to see if it was unlock-able before trying.
Just now wile typing this it actually got me thinking and the thought of the Verizon variant being able to be used on. got me wondering.
Under the hood of the Verizon Moto e is the hardware exactly the same as the other variants or are there more radios for the Verizon network? I ask this because if its the same would there be someway to install the international variant bootloader on the Verizon variant and then unlock it?
if that sounds very stupid im sorry lol. I don't know very much about unlocking devices besides how to follow tutorials of how to unlock a device. But i do know how to flash and install things im kind of a flashaholic thats one reason i looked to unlock this device right away
Verizon as is already annoys me by how there devices have locked bootlaoders thankfully someone found a workaround for the G3, but seeing how this is a prepaid device that customers pay in full for i don't see why they have to lock it down...
$9.99 from bestbuy, it's the best budget phone. I made it work under t-mobile.
clapper66 said:
i bought it for the same reason at best buy to uses as a backup for myself or a friend of family member. Just like you i was curious about rooting and custom roms for it. Sadly i found out by trying to follow the tutorial to unlock the bootloader and when i went to Motorola website for the unlock code it said my device couldn't be unlocked :crying:
Before i picked up the Moto e i seen on XDA the Verizon variant could be used on any service so i didn't even think twice to see if it was unlock-able before trying.
Just now wile typing this it actually got me thinking and the thought of the Verizon variant being able to be used on. got me wondering.
Under the hood of the Verizon Moto e is the hardware exactly the same as the other variants or are there more radios for the Verizon network? I ask this because if its the same would there be someway to install the international variant bootloader on the Verizon variant and then unlock it?
if that sounds very stupid im sorry lol. I don't know very much about unlocking devices besides how to follow tutorials of how to unlock a device. But i do know how to flash and install things im kind of a flashaholic thats one reason i looked to unlock this device right away
Verizon as is already annoys me by how there devices have locked bootlaoders thankfully someone found a workaround for the G3, but seeing how this is a prepaid device that customers pay in full for i don't see why they have to lock it down...
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Can't overwrite the bootloader since it is locked, the partition is locked to read. However, I was thinking, since it has that 5.1 update, it must've written to the system partition and which case I wonder if a fake update of some kind be used. Kingoroot also somehow can mount and write to the system partition through their rooting process, if someone can figure how it does that, there is hope for this version.
There is also the possibility of someone developing loki for this phone too, which would bring at least some custom action to this.
Verizon does some weird things, both it and AT&T, I just don't understand them. AT&T locks down the device and sometimes they even get updates that were released for the phone. Verizon declines other phones which people want. Anyways, we only paid $10 for phone, couldn't say no to that, right? Unlocked SIM and if they do find a workaround, just cherry on top of the icing.
litan1106 said:
$9.99 from bestbuy, it's the best budget phone. I made it work under t-mobile.
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+1 - cant beat the price.
With so many of these out there now, I think its only a matter of time until someone figures out the bootloader and rom questions.
wogeboy said:
+1 - cant beat the price.
With so many of these out there now, I think its only a matter of time until someone figures out the bootloader and rom questions.
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I hope so, would really suck to stay on 5.1 and miss out on any security updates, etc.
But from the looks of scanning through part of the forum, no seems to be taking on the task of figuring out a way to do so. The one guy that was trying had school that took over his time and then there are no other threads about it.
Yeah, I hope that you are right that all these new devices out there will spark something.
SM-s918UZGAXAA?
I'm reading around and just wanted to double check before I brick my phone.
As long as the model number does NOT end in u or u1 you can root your 23 ultra
spart0n said:
As long as the model number does NOT end in u or u1 you can root your 23 ultra
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Nevermind mine ends in u1, so there's no potential to root in the future either?
draggy123 said:
Nevermind mine ends in u1, so there's no potential to root in the future either?
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Absolutely not possible. Samsung in their infinite wisdom decided to make the u and u1 (north American models) not have an OEM unlock option in the software because without that the bootloader can NEVER be unlocked and no bootloader unlock no flashing anything but Samsung software.
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Absolutely not possible. Samsung in their infinite wisdom decided to make the u and u1 (north American models) not have an OEM unlock option in the software because without that the bootloader can NEVER be unlocked and no bootloader unlock no flashing anything but Samsung software.
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got it, thank you very much.
spart0n said:
Absolutely not possible. Samsung in their infinite wisdom decided to make the u and u1 (north American models) not have an OEM unlock option in the software because without that the bootloader can NEVER be unlocked and no bootloader unlock no flashing anything but Samsung software.
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Isn't the locked bootloader issue, at least in North America, more about the demands of the carriers? Particularly Verizon?
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Isn't the locked bootloader issue, at least in North America, more about the demands of the carriers? Particularly Verizon?
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Nope because even if you buy it out completely from Samsung without a carrier you still can't unlock the bootloader in north America. It's baked into the firmware for all u and u1 devices that Samsung removed the ability to OEM unlock
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Nope because even if you buy it out completely from Samsung without a carrier you still can't unlock the bootloader in north America. It's baked into the firmware for all u and u1 devices that Samsung removed the ability to OEM unlock
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Oh, I didn't even know that. I remember back a decade or so ago, when I first got into flashing firmware and all that, there was a lot of talk about how Verizon and (I think ATT) were basically demanding the phone producers lock the bootloaders. And they cited things like "safety" arguing that it was dangerous having people run unofficial operating systems on their networks. That kind of garbage. I guess that's not what it is anymore, which is even more sad.
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Oh, I didn't even know that. I remember back a decade or so ago, when I first got into flashing firmware and all that, there was a lot of talk about how Verizon and (I think ATT) were basically demanding the phone producers lock the bootloaders. And they cited things like "safety" arguing that it was dangerous having people run unofficial operating systems on their networks. That kind of garbage. I guess that's not what it is anymore, which is even more sad.
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It's one of the big talking points of right to repair now the right to use your device as you want because if you install what you want on something you own, do you actually own it?
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It's one of the big talking points of right to repair now the right to use your device as you want because if you install what you want on something you own, do you actually own it?
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Yeah for sure. Wasn't that part of what went into the Library of Congress basically making explicit it was okay to root/jailbreak your device?
I haven't been able to properly unlock a bootloader and root a phone since my LG3. The S7 had that ENG boot you could flash but that impacted your phone's stability. My S20, I know for a time you could pay people to unlock you, but that also made me sad LOL and I never did it. I miss being able to unlock and root "normally" but have learned to cope, I guess.
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Yeah for sure. Wasn't that part of what went into the Library of Congress basically making explicit it was okay to root/jailbreak your device?
I haven't been able to properly unlock a bootloader and root a phone since my LG3. The S7 had that ENG boot you could flash but that impacted your phone's stability. My S20, I know for a time you could pay people to unlock you, but that also made me sad LOL and I never did it. I miss being able to unlock and root "normally" but have learned to cope, I guess.
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Unfortunately afaik it was only specified for apple devices not android
Hi I'm definitely considering on purchasing a a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, but now that I read that US version bootloader can't be unlocked the question is which variant should I get International or Global? I live in US will these versions work properly on T-Mobile? Currently I own a OnePlus 7T Pro it's rooted and I have an awesome custom ROM on it. I was going to upgrade for a newer model and then I found out that OnePlus has made it difficult to do so, it was so easy that if you bricked your phone by a mistake to recover using MSM tool which was available publicly at no cost. The newer models not so if you happen to brick your phone you have to pay, at a hefty price to have it un-bricked remotely and even so not guaranteed to work properly after. Anyway will Global or International S23 Ultra function on T-Mobile also I'm well aware that by rooting, the Knox will be tripped. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
slapman said:
Hi I'm definitely considering on purchasing a a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, but now that I read that US version bootloader can't be unlocked the question is which variant should I get International or Global? I live in US will these versions work properly on T-Mobile? Currently I own a OnePlus 7T Pro it's rooted and I have an awesome custom ROM on it. I was going to upgrade for a newer model and then I found out that OnePlus has made it difficult to do so, it was so easy that if you bricked your phone by a mistake to recover using MSM tool which was available publicly at no cost. The newer models not so if you happen to brick your phone you have to pay, at a hefty price to have it un-bricked remotely and even so not guaranteed to work properly after. Anyway will Global or International S23 Ultra function on T-Mobile also I'm well aware that by rooting, the Knox will be tripped. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
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It should but I don't think 5g will be supported but other bands should work. But don't quote me on it.
I have looked everywhere and even tried the motorola official site. Is there absolutely NO WAY to unlock this phone? I would love to give LineageOS a try on this phone as it's a bit outdated. However, I have spent countless hours trying to figure out a way to brute force it to unlock the bootloader. I don't understand why you can do it easily on other models but not on this one? It even shows support for LinageOS on the official website. So I'm super confused.
Has anyone found a way to actually unlock or install any custom roms on this particular phone? Any help would be great. I already tried the official motorola website and it saids it's not supported. Which I think is just a bunch of **** and a money grab honestly.
Doh I just realized this may have been better in the ROM forum. LOL oh well the question still applies.
Motorola Unlocker should be usable by a lot of new devices: https://en-us.support.motorola.com/...e-supported-by-the-bootloader-unlock-program?
Check if your phone supports it.
Reelin said:
Motorola Unlocker should be usable by a lot of new devices: https://en-us.support.motorola.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/~/what-devices-are-supported-by-the-bootloader-unlock-program?
Check if your phone supports it.
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Hey thanks for responding.
I already tried this on the official website (the link you provided) and it said it couldn't be unlocked or it's not supported. I find that hard to believe and honestly think it's a cheap way to just force us to buy new phones. This is why I was asking here if there are any other possible methods to unlock the bootloader for the XT2075-2 Moto One 5G from Cricket Wireless.
Darn guess not What a shame.
Hello I have the same phone and as I was told the problem is that cricket and atyt phones do not allow the unlocking of the bootloader