Hi guys,
I had the idea to fully replace my Android OS with Debian.
I'm using Debian at home all day and wouldn't use anything else
Well is it possible to use functions on the phone (like Dialing Numbers / contacts / whatsapp) via debian?
Then I would install it on my Z2. I mean it got 3GB of RAM (more then Debian needs to run) and yeah ^^
I also took a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
Debian can run on 600MB, i run a debian based OS on my server
(server idles around 400ish)
Lets see if someone wants to pick this up
It'd be nice to have something like so on our device
Envious_Data said:
Debian can run on 600MB, i run a debian based OS on my server
(server idles around 400ish)
Lets see if someone wants to pick this up
It'd be nice to have something like so on our device
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Well yeah Debian is also able to get controlled via Touch so I may gonna try this out tomorrow.
I run debian desktop via Linux Deploy and access the UI via vnc
That'd be nice to hear how this goes
Envious_Data said:
I run debian desktop via Linux Deploy and access the UI via vnc
That'd be nice to hear how this goes
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Same here, but with Kali Linux. I use it for stealing passwords on-the go I couldn't make it run through the framebuffer. If someone figures it out, it would be amazing!
P.S. Setting it up is a real pain. A VNC client on the PC wit mouse and kb is a lot easier than touch screen(for typing in the terminal)
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Same here, but with Kali Linux. I use it for stealing passwords on-the go I couldn't make it run through the framebuffer. If someone figures it out, it would be amazing!
P.S. Setting it up is a real pain. A VNC client on the PC wit mouse and kb is a lot easier than touch screen(for typing in the terminal)
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I use RealVNC both on my laptop and my phone, for desktop it is just a simple exe that requires no install where as phone its a fairly simple app
localhost on my phone and my internal network ip on my laptop unless im not at home then i just use localhost from my phone.
i mostly use debain desktop just for random stuff aka accessing desktop pages or using a desktop OS torrent manager or downloading files through a webbrowser
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I want to use my pc from my tablet to play runescape has anyone got any clue how?
The image quality/fps over a remote connection may not work too well for a flash game, but it might be playable. I have attempted vnc and remote desktop clients on android in the past, but my favorite is LogMeIn which is $30 in the market but has no monthly fee. LogMeIn works really well and gets around firewalls without any effort.
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The image quality/fps over a remote connection may not work too well for a flash game, but it might be playable. I have attempted vnc and remote desktop clients on android in the past, but my favorite is LogMeIn which is $30 in the market but has no monthly fee. LogMeIn works really well and gets around firewalls without any effort.
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I was looking at that at one point..not sure...would be easier if this ran java lol
I use Vino (linux VNC server) on my netbook and access it using my Android devices using androidVNC. There's hardly any lag, and you could use that to play Runescape.
Both VNC and Team Viewer work wonderfully. I have both and regularly access my home pc with TV.
hannsz said:
I use Vino (linux VNC server) on my netbook and access it using my Android devices using androidVNC. There's hardly any lag, and you could use that to play Runescape.
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I have a dual boot pc but I was hoping for something in the windows vista area please and thanks for the information ...Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated I am just looking for ideas and I will try some thanks guys.
ant667 said:
I have a dual boot pc but I was hoping for something in the windows vista area please and thanks for the information ...Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated I am just looking for ideas and I will try some thanks guys.
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http://androidforums.com/application-requests/3415-runescape-wow-app-g1.html
may help. They seem to use an vnc client called mocha (available on Market), and RealVNC on the windows machine. I haven't personally used this.
I use PocketCloud on the tablet with TightVNC server on the windows machine. The performance is good, but not good enough for games.
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http://androidforums.com/application-requests/3415-runescape-wow-app-g1.html
may help. They seem to use an vnc client called mocha (available on Market), and RealVNC on the windows machine. I haven't personally used this.
I use PocketCloud on the tablet with TightVNC server on the windows machine. The performance is good, but not good enough for games.
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Yea I'm attempting to use RealVNC with and vnc pro
+ 1 for logmein but again, I don't use it for games.
Im having double NAPT problem now...never ending =\...
Hey guys, what are some of the advantages of installing Ubuntu Linux on the HP touchpad?
ubuntu is a desktop OS. so you have a lot of stuff you can install (or compile yourself and install)
i.e. full office suite via LibreOffice. full photo editing suite via Gimp
(of course using them might be more difficult on the touchscreen, since you're supposed to use keyboard+mouse)
ubuntu is a beginner friendly distribution.
with unity as wm it is more optimized for touchscreen devices than the old gnome2 for example. and there is an arm build
Ok thanks, so it's only needed for like more of a person who is business orientated or someone who is looking to edit photos. I don't need office on it at this time nor do I edit photos. So is it better off not taking a chance installing it and messing something up that I might not use? Would you still be able to run WebOS?
right now, unless you don't follow the instructions properly, ubuntu is set up as chroot (meaning it opens INSIDE webos in a card). if you close ubuntu, you just discard the card (like a regular webos app)
if you don't want-to-mess/know-how-to-use linux/ubuntu, dont touch it
i use linux/ubuntu enough, and know my way around it, and like the extended stuff it provides
webos has few apps. ubuntu programs can run(so long you compile/find an ARM .deb)
you surely should first sort out what you do there by installing sth.
actually ubuntu runs in a chroot on the touchpad. so its not like you flash a new rom and have ubuntu running (natively) its more like in a virtual machine.
and if you have no clue at all, dont fiddle with things!
before I attempt this.. Can you install gnome desktop or another distro like Linux Mint which I use on my notebook? Or is chroot the only version you can use?
Anyone try out the Ubuntu Installer on the Play Store with the TFP( link below ) I wanna give it a go but was wondering what other peoples experience with it is first. I saw there is a way to run Ubuntu nativly on our device, but it seems like it may be a bit 'new' ( as in driver support etc... ) which I'd be ok with, but the dual boot process seems like a pain to have to change the boot image everytime you want to use it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ubuntuinstallpaid&feature=more_from_developer
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Anyone try out the Ubuntu Installer on the Play Store with the TFP( link below ) I wanna give it a go but was wondering what other peoples experience with it is first. I saw there is a way to run Ubuntu nativly on our device, but it seems like it may be a bit 'new' ( as in driver support etc... ) which I'd be ok with, but the dual boot process seems like a pain to have to change the boot image everytime you want to use it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ubuntuinstallpaid&feature=more_from_developer
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Yes, I have been messing wth it since I got my Prime a few months ago (running Linux on it was the reason I bought in the first place). Like you, the native stuff seems a little too "fresh" and the risk of a brick a bit too much.
Anyway, the Linux Installers Zac is doing can work well on the Prime. There is an issue with the Ubuntu 12.04 Unity at present which I have not been able to figure out as I can't deal with Unity for longer than bout 60 seconds before reaching for Xfce anyway.
I have had good results using the Ubuntu 12.04 image and installing Xfce. The VNC client you choose makes a huge difference. I have found Jump Desktop by far the best (middle and right mouse buttons, scroll wheel, dock keyboard all work great) and it is quite close to using it natively.
The real downer with the chroot methods is there does not appear to be any way to do it except by running the GUI/X as root while in Ubuntu. Not really a workable option for any long term use. This is down to how Android handles permissions and the use of TCP/UDP ports. If you try to run the VNC server as anything other than root you just get a permission failure. I have not been able to figure out a way around this yet.
Worth the download to try it out.
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I'd like to ask a serious question here.. and I'm not trying to put down Ubuntu or anything - if you're into Linux, it's a good choice...
But..
*Why* would someone want to take an Android tablet and install an OS that's not really tablet friendly on it? What's the benefits?
Unless you plan to keep it in the dock all the time - then why not just buy a netbook?
What am I missing here?
You don't have to take two devices with you if you have Ubuntu installed on Transformer. If you had a tablet AND a netbook the weight would be doubled... Netbooks also have poor screens and probably less battery life.
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I'd like to ask a serious question here.. and I'm not trying to put down Ubuntu or anything - if you're into Linux, it's a good choice...
But..
*Why* would someone want to take an Android tablet and install an OS that's not really tablet friendly on it? What's the benefits?
Unless you plan to keep it in the dock all the time - then why not just buy a netbook?
What am I missing here?
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Versatility, choice, and because we can
Android is great for some things but a lot of what I do would be much better done in a Linux environment. The Prime has replaced my laptop, and having a dual boot option would make it pretty much the perfect piece of kit for me.
I didnt realise this was available !
I will be giving it a go as soon as i get home!!
Would prefer a native install, but this looks pretty easy and quick to do, so i'll give it a shot.
And another nice thing we are not able to use because of missing root rights
I really hope somebody finds and publishes a new way to gain root. (without unlocking)
Running Linux on it was also a reason for my to chose the Prime.
Great comments all... Personally I want Linux on the Prime for some of the reasons above ( portability, not having to carry two machines, "because we can" lol ) however I mostly want it because it should offer a much better development environment on the Prime which would be great. Still haven't gotten it up and running yet, but bought everything I need, should be able to play today
will installing ubuntu thru this app break future ota updates? I do have root, but i only use it for a working ipsec vpn right now
Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
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Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
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Haven't tried that one yet, gonna start with 10.10 large, then move to 12.04 after...
Do you have to unlock prime to use this? I have root, but it says something about needing kernel or something on the app.
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will installing ubuntu thru this app break future ota updates? I do have root, but i only use it for a working ipsec vpn right now
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No it shouldn't have any affect. It does not touch anything outside of /data/local (or wherever you install the ubuntu.img file - could be your sdcard) - no system files are changed.
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Anyone having problems unzipping the beta Ubuntu 12.04 Full V1 download to get the image file? I've tried various unzip tools, and multiple download attempts, and it always comes up corrupt. The 12.04 small works fairly well.
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I think there was an issue with the Full V1 file. The dev re-uploaded today so you might try it again. However, the default Unity interface on Full does not seem to work on the Prime for whatever reason (Tegra 3 differences it has been said) so it might not be worth the effort until that is fixed. Firefox also does not work (I have never got Firefox of Chrome to work on any of these builds)
The older Ubuntu version (10.10 was it?) works fine, except Firefox just crashes, and Midori is the only currently working browser
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Do you have to unlock prime to use this? I have root, but it says something about needing kernel or something on the app.
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Your kernel needs to support the loop device which is the way that the ubuntu.img file gets "mounted" on the system. I dont recall if the stock kernel supports this but I would be surprised if it doesn't
Stock kernel apparently has the loop device, as I have been able to run Ubuntu on stock (rooted of course).
Thanks for info on new upload of 12.04 full. Didnt you say you installed Xfce and 12.04 worked well?
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Stock kernel apparently has the loop device, as I have been able to run Ubuntu on stock (rooted of course).
Thanks for info on new upload of 12.04 full. Didnt you say you installed Xfce and 12.04 worked well?
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Yes, Xfce I find works well. Just did not know how much effort you might be willing to put into it
Bit of advice - don't use "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to change to Xfce. That wants to install a ton of stuff that is not needed. Just try installing the the meta package "xfce4" and then add the other bits you want. I then removed the Unity desktop and it booted straight in to Xfce.
Edit: Actually, in this 12.04 image doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" does not appear to be as bad. A previous image wanted to download 750Mb of stuff!
Edit2: Oh, and to get xfce loading instead of Unity, you need to edit /root/.vnx/xstartup and change the last line:
/etc/X11/Xsession
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startxfce4
..then restart the linux chroot by typing exit
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Yes, Xfce I find works well. Just did not know how much effort you might be willing to put into it
Bit of advice - don't use "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to change to Xfce. That wants to install a ton of stuff that is not needed. Just try installing the the meta package "xfce4" and then add the other bits you want. I then removed the Unity desktop and it booted straight in to Xfce.
Edit: Actually, in this 12.04 image doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" does not appear to be as bad. A previous image wanted to download 750Mb of stuff!
Edit2: Oh, and to get xfce loading instead of Unity, you need to edit /root/.vnx/xstartup and change the last line:
/etc/X11/Xsession
to be
startxfce4
..then restart the linux chroot by typing exit
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Great info I have the 10.10 full image up and running and Firefox does seem to be working fine for me "out of the box". Think I'm going to try the 12 image and Xfce next.
Anyone have any optimization tips and tricks to get this running as fast as possible? I'm trying the Jump VNC client, seems pretty nice, just need to get some kind of gesture to hide the tablets nav bar as it covers the screen.
Hey Barryflanagan, I'm playing with Zac's images and I am wondering if you got ubuntu to read any external storage media plugged into the dock : like sdcard or usb external drive. I don't know if it's because of the dock proper, or ubuntu, or chroot, but I got the prime on ubuntu to read microsd on the prime proper but nothing routing through the dock..
As to why I'd want both linux and android, most of the time I'm fine with android, sometimes with the dock sometimes without. I don't have a laptop anymore and 2 weeks ago I happened to get to my first need that android couldn't handle: I have to trim and clean 10 000+ files of music library with many copies and variations by file names, lengths, quality, and tags, and to pick the good tracks manually, and nothing on the android's ecosystem is as good or useful as mediamonkey. I've had to borrow a laptop from somebody to get the job done. I'm pretty sure in linux I could have found a working application-- if the usb hard drive for those 70gigs could have been recognized through the dock. Anyway -- also, some more intensive work like the occasional flyer or poster I design for friends.
By the way, have anyone tried to get Wine working on the chroot ubuntu? Maybe with kernel overclocked to 1.8 it might work?
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Is it possible to run Ubuntu offline, like without VNC, or do you need internet to use it? I followed the instructions on the app and connected with vnc. I would rather use splashtop and connect to my desktop if ubuntu cant be run offline.
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Is it possible to run Ubuntu offline, like without VNC, or do you need internet to use it? I followed the instructions on the app and connected with vnc. I would rather use splashtop and connect to my desktop if ubuntu cant be run offline.
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I'm confused as to what you're asking. Technically, Ubuntu is running offline. You're only connecting to the GUI over VNC. You do not need internet.
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I'm confused as to what you're asking. Technically, Ubuntu is running offline. You're only connecting to the GUI over VNC. You do not need internet.
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Ah, I see. But what use has ubuntu without the GUI? I'm obviously new to this, but I assumed that you could use the ubuntu OS offline. Like open and use programs like open office. How would you be using ubuntu if you were at a place without internet?
I'm probably not the only one that has done this,but yesterday at work I setup a headless Windows XP VM with virtualbox on a computer,and used RealVNC Viewer on my phone to login remotely,and it worked pretty well. Our service order system does not display correctly in mobile web browsers (even the ones you can set to view in desktop mode),so this was an interesting alternative. I didnt specifically do this for my phone,but more or less to see how it would work on a bigger tablet. I used RealVNC,which is a paid app,but its definitely one of the best ones out there for this setup, more on that at the end.
Anyway,heres a few pointers if anyone wants to try this out.
1. Install virtualbox (and the extension pack),install your favorite guest OS and install your favorite VNC server (I just used TightVNC for the server as well). Also, shut down the VM and change the network type from NAT to Bridge (so it gets an IP from your network). Start it back up, get the IP address and shut it back down.
2. With the VM off,start it back up in headless mode:
My host OS was windows 7,so I created a batch file in the VB program files folder and added this:
Code:
VBoxManage startvm "VM name" --type headless
Then I made a shortcut to the batch file on the desktop.
the command is same for linux,but you can run it from any terminal directory I do believe
3. Give it a min to boot up,then adjust the resolution with:
Use this one time command,adjust the values if necessary. I created another batch file to run this command,then changed it for the next command we have to run.
Code:
VBoxManage setextradata global GUI/MaxGuestResolution 1920,1200
that will allow VirtualBox to globally use any resolution up to 1920x1200,but it wont actually change it,that is what the next one is for,this changes it on the fly:
Code:
VBoxManage controlvm "VM name" setvideomodehint 960 503 24
for best usage,disconnect and reconnect from the phone when changing it on the fly,RealVNC didnt exactly like the resolution changing while logged in.
Now with the RealVNC viewer,it keeps the notification bar at the top,so you cant exactly use it full screen,so thats why its not 960x540.
The realVNC app for 9.99 is worth it,all the other remote apps I have tried are either slower,or had dumb control schemes. This one seems to work the best. Also,I have never used the built in remote display function,so I dont know if it would work any better or not.
I had very minimal lag with 24 bit color on the phone,this method will work on any android device,you just have to figure out the maximum resolution to use without having to pan the screen. Obviously this will work great at home or at work using wifi,but not that great using 3G service.
thats pretty bad ass. For the Tegra 3 crowd, such as myself, Splashtop THD is more than just for gaming, again, it is paid like RealVNC, but the best part about it is it runs nearly lagless. Give it a shot if your hardware supports it
Can we install Windows 10 on the S7/S7+?
LMFAO
Please tell me you're kidding?
Yes we can.
FAQ
It's not as stupid of a question as you guys make it seem. Windows 10 ARM version exists (but there is no way to get a legal license and/or installation media for it) for the Surface Pro X and a few other devices. Of course there would most likely be no drivers, but in theory Win 10 COULD be possibly.. but yea in reality it's not at the moment.
Is anybody able to use a windows emulator? I tried Linux on it but wondering if there's a better way to use Windows apps if I need to other than remoting into my PC
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Is anybody able to use a windows emulator? I tried Linux on it but wondering if there's a better way to use Windows apps if I need to other than remoting into my PCi highly appreciate your factual statement, thankyou for elaboration, i wasn't aware of much of the info.
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I've found a few solutions to this. Ibochs works but is basically unusable. TeamViewer allows you to wake up your home PC and control it. This works surprisingly well if you have a good connection. Microsoft also has an app called Azure that lets you use a virtual desktop for less than $.01/hr if you can't wake up your home PC over ip for some reason
I'm going to go out on a limb here and use a throwback analogy... Much like a free ride from a partner with an STD... Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should... LOL