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Hi guys!!!!!I have a galaxy ace 2 and an xperia tablet z,but now its time to upgrade my phone...
Im thinking the z2 and the g3.if i put it side by side i would choose the z2 for these features
1 water proof and dust proof
2 front speakers
3 bigger battery
and of course the 3 gb ram
the experience i have from my tablet is perfect,never had a problem and has a huuuuuuge battery (6000mha)
the only thing that put me into thoughts is that everyone are saying about the poor service of sony and that is a shi**y company
.I dont see that on my tablet but i feel that i must ask you what do you think about these two phones now that they are in our hands
do you have any problems about z2? what do you think?
No problems with Z2 here, I had same dilemma I bought the Z2 over G3 because of the RAM, real world battery performance seems much better due to larger battery and no 4k screen and camera.
For me, majority of customer service are sh**tty they will try evade from warranty repair or replacement but in the case of there is a money involved im pretty sure you will be entertained. Anyway for me, I don't judge based on customer service but the product itself and updates of software. So for me, z2 is much more reliable and better than others cause of overall aesthetics, usefulness of application such as walkman, camera and movies, water resistant my how I loved this feature, and lastly the great battery life. The wishlist only I have is a better front facing camera. Qhd is just a gimmick for me I did compare from z2 and its not a really big difference to compromise the battery life. Rather had a great battery life than a little difference of display quality. I hope sony doesn't bring that qhd from z4 and unless they dont compromised size and battery.
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Z2 all the way
Great design, best battery life,good performance and of course the waterproof!!!
g3 is overrated with qHD and bigger screen!!!
what about the warming problem that many say? Any lag problem? Have you had any software upgrade?
And the last thing that im really curius,why the other brands dont make a 3 gb ram phones?(except the big and pricy G3)
in my eyes the z2 even though it is close to 1 year old phone,is equal than the g3
last question(i promise) if i take the z2 is it possible to have 3 years more with the latest firmwares(custom roms) etc
and will it be possible to run the future apps?
Ive personaly compared those 2 and i can say that the camera of the G3 is better than the Z2 (z2 makes better daylight ones tho). 2 Gb of RAM can still handle everything and it will be like that for a long time (3Gb are a showoff for now). The screen of the G3 is way better and we know why , Just the battery backup is abit worse for the G3. For videos Z2 also wins. With a mod G3 can reproduce 60fps of 1920x.. and its still laggy. I personaly can't talk about design..Z2 wins in every aspect + the waterproofness aswell as you mentioned.Speakers of Z2 are better also. Its up to you.LG have a vry friendly interface with good stuff in it and ofcourse a infrared and a vry helpful buttons on its back.
Thank you guys, I'm probably going for the z2, I ll try to watch more reviews but I think that the xperia is going to be my next phone.... Thanks again
Guys, would you help me deciding between both phones? I am coming from Xperia SP
- Z2: What I like:
Better design -for me-, better price, larger developmental community/more better future custom roms, larger battery..
or
- Z3 Plus: What I like:
Better front Camera/Dual Sim/more predictable official updates/better waterproofness/more over-heating issues..
I don't like Z3 ://
you may help me If stated new or neglected something in the comparison like: the front cameras don't differ too much, or Z3+ is not expected to receive Android N or expected to grow large custom roms community like Z2 (I don't think so) etc..
Thanks a lot ))
I think that the most important is the price. It should be your main argument.
After that comes everything else.
To be honest front camera on z2 isn't too good, a lot of noise mostly in darker light conditions.
Z2 comes with (great) headphones which is a big +
Temperature, idk. if you do care about it then don't choose z3+
The flaps may be a pretty important argument. On z2 you've got 2 flaps = 2 times bigger risk that water gets in.
The choice is your, but for me Xperia Z2 is the most functional phone I've ever had (and I would upgrade to z3+ if it didn't cost 2x so much as z2, because it's not worth it)
I would go for the z2.
Much cheaper and isn't really plagued by overheating issues even when gaming, while the z3+ is known for these issues because of it's snapdragon 810, plus it's specs are not really outdated to be honest
Thanks a lot ) here I found an offer for Z3+ that it is not that expensive as x2 price the Z2 at all
That's what made me think about it .. but now I am favoring the Z2 over Z3/Z3+, but now after more searching .. the LG G4 came up with another offer in the same market lol ://
Its camera is amazing but its battery is toooo bad .. do you have any idea about it ? I don't think it deserves taking a risk .. what do you think ??
Yes, that's what I am thinking about .. and the one thing remaining is .. to hope that it will receive a decent Android M Support
Lg. Hmm. I've had g2 and it was pretty good, especially the screen to size ratio and it's quality.
Xperia devices offer waterproofness, good headphones and you can use it with a pencil
If you don't care about these things you may take the g4. 3000mAh also isn't so bad.
But remember that Lg devices get faster cheap in case you would like to sell it someday.
oh, I wasn't paying attension for that
Well, I think I am going to get Z2 )
Thanks a lot for your time )
I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life YES
IPXX Certification YES
Magnetic/fast charging YES
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs YES
5 poles audio jack YES
Memory card support YES
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6 YES
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night YES
The fastest mobile GPU available YES
Mini/Compact body desing YES
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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SO YES Upgrade to XZ5c
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[email protected] said:
I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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Bro, just get the Z5 compact......unless if you are picky on the design and pricey, then get the Z3 compact
Okay
So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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That's true at this moment. The manufacturers are all looking for the big screens.[emoji174]
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I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
Unfortunately, the Z5 compact is the only hi-end (2015) Android phone with small size. Your other 2015 option is the iPhone 6S but it has a totally different OS as you probably know.
Other old options are:
Z3 compact: still a good phone, still supported, not too old.
Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
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Yeah, I read that about the volume button position. But, Ok, it's nothing really severe.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 too. Do you feel the camera better or worse? (I really like the HDR+ quality of the Nexus 5).
I have moved from Z3c into Z5c and I can't complain. The only issue i have is its little but slippy but my old iPhone was that too.
Build quality is very good as well as screen and speakers (which are btw louder than in Z3c)
New UI looks more vanilla which if you are Nexus fan a good think (I am )
I havent tested camera yet nor battery life but it drops around 4% in 7 hours standby (considering push emails, bt on)
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Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I recently sold an unlocked Moto X 2013 and it had Lollipop on it. I doubt it will get updated again but it was good to get it to 5.1.
About z5c vs nexus 5 camera: I can't compare because after I dropped my nexus, the camera became useless. It could not focus anymore.
Afternoon all from a very cold Wales....
I'm after a little bit of advice, I came from an old iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z2, and my contract is just about up...
What do you guys recommend I look at for my next phone?
I have loved the Xperia, have never felt the need to root, it does everything I need.
I will be keeping my Z2 as something to play around with (i use it whilst hiking for my mapping etc) but I'm not convinced by the Z5.
Is there any others I should be keeping an eye on? I do actually like the look of the big iPhone 6plus (or whatever its called) but not so sure I want to go back into the apple fold....
Any advice would be welcome!
I bought an z2 n I'm kind of disappointed, it has a lot of problems, the front camera is grainy and sometimes takes soft skin pics, the mic in the call is very aggressive and literally cuts the last words u say, sigh....I might buy an iPhone 6 or 6 plus because it's safe to say the front camera of iPhone 6 which is 1 mp I think ? is better than z2's rear camera that is 20 megapixel ?
iRadio said:
Afternoon all from a very cold Wales....
I'm after a little bit of advice, I came from an old iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z2, and my contract is just about up...
What do you guys recommend I look at for my next phone?
I have loved the Xperia, have never felt the need to root, it does everything I need.
I will be keeping my Z2 as something to play around with (i use it whilst hiking for my mapping etc) but I'm not convinced by the Z5.
Is there any others I should be keeping an eye on? I do actually like the look of the big iPhone 6plus (or whatever its called) but not so sure I want to go back into the apple fold....
Any advice would be welcome!
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I think the Z2 is still a solid phone to be fair, as much as its great Sony are consistent in their design and features, they started to run into problems (mainly overheating) after the Z3 which is much the same phone as the Z2. I have a phone with the Snapdragon 801 and my wife has a Z2 and its still a quick processor while also being easy on the battery (it also helps that Sony have always been generous in this department).
Realistically, if your not fussed on the Z5, the Z6 should only be 2-3 months away if you could hold out. In the meantime you might even get the Marshmallow update on your Z2 to keep you feeling up to date.
My own contract is not up until Jul/Aug time, but I'm keeping an eye on the upcoming Galaxy S7, HTC One M10, as the competition between these two could be closer than ever this year. But I'm also open to devices like Huawei, after the job they did with the 6P and Mate 8. The Honor 5X and 7 seem decent value for money too.
I'm not a massive fan of apple to be honest, they do make nice hardware theres no doubt. I had a iPhone 5 for a while and it was ok, but just prefer the freedom and choice with android.
to be honest i am selling my z2 and its not the phone that i wanted... especially for camera.. the back is good but the front is just poor... i might get the nexus 6p or 5x or may return to samsung too...
iphones are worst in cameras... i dunno what you people see in it.. i see my friends iphone 6 and its nothing great.. if you dont believe me go to supersaftv channel on youtube and check the comparisons... the new nexuses just blows the 6s in low light... also the s6...
I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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Sony is always the first to update new versión and sell 1 phone no pixel con new version android in october
The 4k oled 21: 9 screen is addictive since I don't want 16: 9 screens to go 18: 9.
The flying phone has android stock with addictive features.
The battery is neither bad nor excellent I always arrive at bedtime with a battery
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I really like this phone...eventhough not perfect.
Itd easy to handle with one hand in portrait
Camera its not perfect but among the best.
AhsanU said:
I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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its depend, but one thing for sure when you pick sony xperia 1 ,you will get overall new experience on watching movies.
I was in the same position as you @AhsanU. I had the OnePlus 7 pro 256/12gb combo nebula blue and I traded it 2 days ago for a piano black Xperia 1. From my early experience I can tell you a few things.
I love the form factor, the Op7p feels a lot bigger even tho the Xperia is slightly taller. The Xperia screen defaults to 1080p but it isn't a big problem because it's super sharp and watching 4k content is insane. I hated the curved edges of the Op7p. You won't even notice the 90hz display difference.
Battery life is about equal with both device even tho the Xperia has a smaller battery, Sony optimization and the default 1080p screen mode helps there. I do however miss warp charge but the Xperia has power delivery, I have to buy a new car charger and additional USB type c cable.
Speakers are on par, the haptic feedback on Sony is way better, I can't stress this enough. Many times I'd miss notification while my phone was on vibrate on the Op7p.
Camera so far are very comparable with the X1 slightly taking the advantage, both camera suffers when the subject is moving, I have a 2 year old who can't sit still and it's a pain to capture him with both cameras compared to the super fast s10+ and iPhone xs max.
That's all I can think of for now.
Coming from a Note 9 & Galaxy S10+, here's my opinion:
The Sony fits what you need it to fit, what I mean by that is, devices can be tailored more for you than others by having different features etc.
The Note 9 & S10+ where both great, however they where great at being all round good, I felt they didn't stand out in a lot of aspects, which is where the Sony gets the advantage.. the software on Sony is leaps ahead of Samsung, don't get me wrong, OneUI is so much better than the older software and feels smoother, however Sony's feels much more refined and flows better in my opinion.
I know how the 3300mAh battery looks on paper but in my experience it's held up well and something you should be too concerned about, is it the best? No, does it need to be?, Not really, of course it would benefit from a larger cell but is 3300mAh enough to make me not want the phone? Hell no!
Then of course we have the screen & haptic feedback, this is where I feel like you need a Sony, the amount of reviews I saw that said both where gimmicky makes no sense to me, if the sharpness & clarity of 4K is a "gimmick" then surely the 90hz trend for fluidity is too?.. Anyway my point is the 4K screen is beautiful, best of the best in my opinion, same with the haptic feedback, was palmed off as gimmicky but it's something so many users overlook, having a powerful vibration for media, games & most importantly notifications is something lacking in so many other phones..
To conclude, I'm happy with my Xperia 1, and don't regret getting one
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Delighted with mine, especially interested to read that you liked the XZ1, that was one of my favourite ever phones in terms of form factor and build and in my opinion, the Xperia 1 is the spiritual successor to the XZ1. Basically, if you liked the XZ1 you should love the Xperia 1 as it adds a better screen, far more speed, better battery life, superior camera ability and various other things.
I've never used the OnePlus 7 as I had a 6T and wasn't especially impressed by it, in addition I'm not a fan of curving screens....can't see what benefit they add.
Looks great in white as well!
Yeah I would say so. Depends of course which device you have to begin with. As far as I'm concerned, the Xperia Z2 is Sony's best smartphone ever, and design-wise, the Xperia 1 is a downgrade from the Xperia Z2, although to be fair to the Xperia 1, it looks better than the entire Xperia X series, and is somewhat of a return to form for Sony, starting to resemble the classical OmniBalance design of the early Xperia Z series, and Sony made that clear by using glas for its back (and finally getting the NFC chip located on the back side again) and also releasing the Xperia 1 in the Xperia Z colors, black, white and purple (a long time ago we saw a purple Xperia flagship!). The Xperia 1 still has some of that soap bar design Sony introduced in the XZ2 though, but it's kept at a minimum here, thank God. And while I do prefer the stylish edges of the Z/Z1/Z2, I think the aluminium frame of the 1 looks quite okay. And the classical round power button of the Xperia Z should have been brought back too; the current generic pill designed power button, only works for camera and volume; Sony's power button was unique and really cool looking, and also much easier to press too.
But other than that, the Xperia 1 is an improvement in most ways over the early Xperia Z series (I'm no fan of the Z3, Z3+ and Z5; the Xperia Z series began going downhill with these devices, and that downhill continued with the Xperia X series), although there are some other drawbacks compared to the Z2, but that's mostly due to the downgrade known as Android 9 Pie, and not with the actual hardware. The 21:9 screen may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's an acquired taste, and personally I really like it at this point. The lack of wireless charging doesn't bother me as I'd never use it anyway, although perhaps it should have been added for keeping the USB port in a more mint condition. And I imagine wireless charging doesn't work that well with Sony's excellent battery care, which learns how long you charge the device, and adapts after that. Of course the battery could have been more powerful, like at the very least, 4,000 mAh, but you can get a lot of extra juice out of the 3,330 mAh battery by using black wallpaper, dark theme and so on in everything.
Personally, I think Sony's change in direction to OLED, is a mixed bag. Yeah, OLED looks great, and is very useful for saving battery life if you use completely black wallpaper and dark theme and so on, but the problem with OLED is that it wears out much faster than LCD, and it's also more sensitive to burn-ins and so on, so for that reason, I wish Sony would have kept using LCD screens. I mean after 6 years, my Xperia Z still has the exact same screen quality as it did when it was brand new; I know that won't be the case with my Xperia 1 when it turns 6.
The two main issues with the Xperia 1 right now, is that Sony has yet to add it on their Open Devices list, and that Sony still hasn't updated Xperia Transfer Mobile to work with the Xperia 1 and the Xperia 10 (I imagine this is an Android Pie issue more than anything). These two issues I'm sure will be resolved in the coming months, but it bothers me that it wasn't done at launch.
Perhaps the best thing about the Xperia 1, is that it has no ugly notches. While Sony has complied with the popularity of what I call, bezels autism, which has given us these ugly and disturbing notched smartphones, fortunately Sony didn't go all the way with the bezels autism trend, and so the Xperia 1 has a full screen, as it's supposed to be.
Not really an upgrade.
It's going to come down to 90hz screen or 21:9, that's basically it.
Rest is about the same
It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Pretty much all manufacturers have abandoned their phones using your logic
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Well obviously Sony will abandon it if everyone's going to have your attitude and not buy non-Apple and non-Samsung devices. It might even get so bad that all we will get is Apple and Sapple. And that's the main reason I buy a non-mainstream smartphone brand like the Xperia, because I want market competition and also, Sony is a world class brand, Sony understands quality and design, and their Open Devices program alone is a good reason to buy the Xperia 1. We want open source and freedom in our smartphones.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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maybe they are not list the changelog but i can say they fix something in newest update.
i notice the improvement even not major.
so your posting not entirely valid.
you must look even samsung is rare to provide the update except their the latest device and in term of speed update they are slower, too slow