I've posted a thread on Reddit getting into more detail about the spontaneous crinkling of the area surrounding the power/volume buttons, but obviously as a newer user I can't post links.
After reading over some 20-30 different cases and having experienced the crinkling first hand...
I believe that it's related to case usage, but it might help to further narrow down the cause of this issue.
My theory is that since metal expands/contracts in varying weather, it is expanding to a size which is too large for the case it is fitted in, resulting in the metal crinkling in the spot where it has the least amount of structural support. For someone like myself who works in property management, I'm constantly moving back and forth between room-temperature environments and colder 40-50 degree weather. The plastic/TPU case may contract/expand as well, but not at the same rate or the same degree as the metal chassis.
If this issue has happened to you post what type of case you use if applicable and how long you've had your device. Post photos if necessary.
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Oh wow. Maybe I was best to cancel my order
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bipoler said:
Oh wow. Maybe I was best to cancel my order
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Honestly it's not super widespread. Remember it's the minority who will speak out about issues and most people will go on without having any issues. Don't shy away from this great device because a few of us are trying to figure out this issue.
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Oh wow. Maybe I was best to cancel my order
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Lol.
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Oh wow. Maybe I was best to cancel my order
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Lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63898124&postcount=234
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63909486&postcount=238
Happened to me on my first 6P. I was using this case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015X90UJS/
And it crinkled at the exact same spot. I thought it had something to do with the tightness of the case so I got a flexible tpu case to hopefully avoid it
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No problem here. 64 Graphite with diztronic case.
Just going to leave this here.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html
The answer is, the phone is in your pocket, you sit down or do anything that causes your pants to apply pressure to your phone, it flexes and causes that little ripple in the metal.
I'm cautiously calling BS on this one. This is either a manufacturing defect or the result of some mishandling. Aluminum is not deforming like that without considerable force.
Also note the little chip in the glass right where it's bent (2nd picture).
mja0318 said:
Happened to me on my first 6P. I was using this case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015X90UJS/
And it crinkled at the exact same spot. I thought it had something to do with the tightness of the case so I got a flexible tpu case to hopefully avoid it
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That's interesting. I was thinking/hoping that that type of case (Supcase) would prevent any bending because it offers a bit more stability.
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The answer is, the phone is in your pocket, you sit down or do anything that causes your pants to apply pressure to your phone, it flexes and causes that little ripple in the metal.
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If that were true all phones regardless of make/model would bend. Of course any phone can bend with enough force applied but it would seem there's more at play here because the bend/kink is occuring in the same place. A case, especially an OEM sanctioned case, shouldn't bend a phone by simply inserting and removing it. As for being put in a pocket that's pretty common and you'd think it would be designed for.
If you look at the design of the 6P it's more sensitive to top-to-bottom stress because there's nothing holding the mid-frame to the aluminum body in the center. Most people put a case on top-to-bottom; at least I do. You'd be better off putting a 6P case on or removing it side-to-side to avoid putting pressure on the button cut-outs which are the weakest part of the aluminum frame.
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Just going to leave this here.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html
The answer is, the phone is in your pocket, you sit down or do anything that causes your pants to apply pressure to your phone, it flexes and causes that little ripple in the metal.
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I do understand what you mean. The issue is that it doesn't seem to be a problem with 99% of phones on the market. It seems that manufacturers should know by now that the phone will be put in our pockets so they should manufacturer them to withstand it.
BarryH_GEG said:
If that were true all phones regardless of make/model would bend. Of course any phone can bend with enough force applied but it would seem there's more at play here because the bend/kink is occuring in the same place. A case, especially an OEM sanctioned case, shouldn't bend a phone by simply inserting and removing it. As for being put in a pocket that's pretty common and you'd think it would be designed for.
If you look at the design of the 6P it's more sensitive to top-to-bottom stress because there's nothing holding the mid-frame to the aluminum body in the center. Most people put a case on top-to-bottom; at least I do. You'd be better off putting a 6P case on or removing it side-to-side to avoid putting pressure on the button cut-outs which are the weakest part of the aluminum frame.
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They do bend! They are supposed to bend, just like a tall building in the wind. Look up how Apple tests the iPhone, most manufacturers do the same thing.
Valynor said:
I'm cautiously calling BS on this one. This is either a manufacturing defect or the result of some mishandling. Aluminum is not deforming like that without considerable force.
Also note the little chip in the glass right where it's bent (2nd picture).
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No no, heat chipped it! No way these people mishandled their phones!
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That's interesting. I was thinking/hoping that that type of case (Supcase) would prevent any bending because it offers a bit more stability.
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Me too. I like the way the case looks and feels. It's very tight on the phone. The edges around the phone are very flexible though
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designgears said:
They do bend! They are supposed to bend, just like a tall building in the wind. Look up how Apple tests the iPhone, most manufacturers do the same thing.
No no, heat chipped it! No way these people mishandled their phones!
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things bend sure, not like how the OP's picture is, or many others that have had the same issue.
there is bending, and then there is bending . this a design flaw in the nexus 6p . everyone jumped all over jerry rig video on youtube, but he exposed where the flaw was and cracked the phone with his sneeze.
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They do bend! They are supposed to bend, just like a tall building in the wind. Look up how Apple tests the iPhone, most manufacturers do the same thing.
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Here's what's missing from the design Huawei chose for the 6P.
Unlike Samsung, LG, and Motorola who use the same design, there's no unity between the subframe and body of the phone on the 6P. The digitizer/display assembly is attached to the subframe with glue and those parts are secured to the aluminum frame only at the top and bottom. So when bent the aluminum frame is the weakest link. The strongest part of the 6P's structure is the area covered by the battery. The cutouts for the buttons and finger print sensor which weaken the frame just happen to be above the uppermost part of the battery.
Here's the video that still came from.
Cases do not cause the ripple (bend). When the phone is flexed in the middle is when this ripple will occur, has nothing to do with a case. I had a few 6ps up until now, 2 of them had this ripple. One got rippled over time and one was rippled out of the box - Neither were ever in a case.
The one that was slightly rippled out of the box, I did my own testing. I flexed the phone in the middle one way, then back the other way. When I flexed away from the screen the ripple would tighten up. When I flexed the phone towards the screen the edge would ripple a great degree. No matter what I did I couldn't get it to completely straighten out but it was clear that there is a lack a rigidity along the right edge. This has absolutely nothing to do with using a case.
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shortperson1026 said:
I've posted a thread on Reddit getting into more detail about the spontaneous crinkling of the area surrounding the power/volume buttons, but obviously as a newer user I can't post links.
After reading over some 20-30 different cases and having experienced the crinkling first hand...
I believe that it's related to case usage, but it might help to further narrow down the cause of this issue.
My theory is that since metal expands/contracts in varying weather, it is expanding to a size which is too large for the case it is fitted in, resulting in the metal crinkling in the spot where it has the least amount of structural support. For someone like myself who works in property management, I'm constantly moving back and forth between room-temperature environments and colder 40-50 degree weather. The plastic/TPU case may contract/expand as well, but not at the same rate or the same degree as the metal chassis.
If this issue has happened to you post what type of case you use if applicable and how long you've had your device. Post photos if necessary.
For example, the spontaneous crinkling looks like the photos here
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You bent your phone, what is spontaneous about that?
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boynamedstacy said:
Cases do not cause the ripple (bend). When the phone is flexed in the middle is when this ripple will occur, has nothing to do with a case. I had a few 6ps up until now, 2 of them had this ripple. One got rippled over time and one was rippled out of the box - Neither were ever in a case.
The one that was slightly rippled out of the box, I did my own testing. I flexed the phone in the middle one way, then back the other way. When I flexed away from the screen the ripple would tighten up. When I flexed the phone towards the screen the edge would ripple a great degree. No matter what I did I couldn't get it to completely straighten out but it was clear that there is a lack a rigidity along the right edge. This has absolutely nothing to do with using a case.
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How much pressure did it take to get the ripple to come up?
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As the title says, I somehow managed to bend my phone today... Sitting in my shirt pocket without moving, pulled it out and it was bent.
Bent it back without issue but it has me wondering... Is there anything we can add to the phone itself to make it more rigid? Maybe do a One X back swap with a cutout for the kickstand (pipe dream probably)? I may even give up the kickstand for a properly supported backplate.
I'm currently using a Cruzerlite TPU case, which I love, and I don't want to get rid of it for something more rigid (and thicker), so I'm curious what other options there are? I'm not opposed to taking the phone apart and looking into some options... Maybe even something like thin metal rods that can be fed through the kickstand with a couple of small holes?
If there's no way to fix the issue permanently, I'm honestly very tempted to look into some other phone choices... I'm cautious with my phone (which is why I put the phone in my shirt pocket instead of my pants pocket in the first place) and it still happened. Next time I might not be so lucky on bending it back, and I'm not ready to fork out the $100 for insurance to replace a phone with (what I consider to be) a defect.
Am I crazy for expecting my phone to stay in one piece like every other phone I've owned, or is this the way phones are moving towards (giving up build quality for thinness sake)?
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JaredC01 said:
As the title says, I somehow managed to bend my phone today... Sitting in my shirt pocket without moving, pulled it out and it was bent.
Bent it back without issue but it has me wondering... Is there anything we can add to the phone itself to make it more rigid? Maybe do a One X back swap with a cutout for the kickstand (pipe dream probably)? I may even give up the kickstand for a properly supported backplate.
I'm currently using a Cruzerlite TPU case, which I love, and I don't want to get rid of it for something more rigid (and thicker), so I'm curious what other options there are? I'm not opposed to taking the phone apart and looking into some options... Maybe even something like thin metal rods that can be fed through the kickstand with a couple of small holes?
If there's no way to fix the issue permanently, I'm honestly very tempted to look into some other phone choices... I'm cautious with my phone (which is why I put the phone in my shirt pocket instead of my pants pocket in the first place) and it still happened. Next time I might not be so lucky on bending it back, and I'm not ready to fork out the $100 for insurance to replace a phone with (what I consider to be) a defect.
Am I crazy for expecting my phone to stay in one piece like every other phone I've owned, or is this the way phones are moving towards (giving up build quality for thinness sake)?
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Weld a support beam along the sides?
Really would need to be something along the back, and as wide as possible. Might take the phone apart to the bare pieces to see what we're working with.
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put an otterbox defender on it on it
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put an otterbox defender on it on it
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... No.
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... No.
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then dont treat this thing like its "tough" because it obliviously is not. Hell, just look at this thing. This is a prime example on why devices like this should not be made this thin. And people wonder why their phone bends when they put it in a back pocket of a tight pair of jeans *rolls eyes*
Mine stays in my pockets whenever I'm not sitting at my desk at the office. It's not bent at all. I don't know how this is happening to people...
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Mine stays in my pockets whenever I'm not sitting at my desk at the office. It's not bent at all. I don't know how this is happening to people...
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i keep mine in my pocket too but this often happens because people are wearing pants and what not that are too tight thus, causing their phone to bend when the pants are constricted during movement.
Ex: putting phone in back pocket of jeans and bending over/sitting on it.
I have no sympathy for people who bend their phone doing these things. If people cant realize that aluminum wont bend on such a thin phone then its their own damn fault.
dametalone said:
then dont treat this thing like its "tough" because it obliviously is not. Hell, just look at this thing. This is a prime example on why devices like this should not be made this thin. And people wonder why their phone bends when they put it in a back pocket of a tight pair of jeans *rolls eyes*
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Prime example of not reading the OP. Thanks for the ignorance, I needed a chuckle.
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dametalone said:
then dont treat this thing like its "tough" because it obliviously is not. Hell, just look at this thing. This is a prime example on why devices like this should not be made this thin. And people wonder why their phone bends when they put it in a back pocket of a tight pair of jeans *rolls eyes*
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There is a long thread on this problem and it is bending in front pockets also. I really think the only thing to do is put a sturdy case over it.
dametalone said:
i keep mine in my pocket too but this often happens because people are wearing pants and what not that are too tight thus, causing their phone to bend when the pants are constricted during movement.
Ex: putting phone in back pocket of jeans and bending over/sitting on it.
I have no sympathy for people who bend their phone doing these things. If people cant realize that aluminum wont bend on such a thin phone then its their own damn fault.
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iPhones are "Skinny Jean-friendly"
eXplicit815 said:
Mine stays in my pockets whenever I'm not sitting at my desk at the office. It's not bent at all. I don't know how this is happening to people...
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Its those hipsters wearing skinny jeans.
We could call it a feature.... Convertable to a clamshell in one easy step.
A thread was already started for this, May 29th to be exact. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679027
The question that needs to be answered is will they warranty the phone or is it considered physical damage
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The question that needs to be answered is will they warranty the phone or is it considered physical damage
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As a former repair tech for Sprint, MOST stores will consider that physical damage. There are some, I was one of them, that would exchange it, under the right circumstances, but most will not. It will depend on the level of damage and with Assurion cracking down on Sprints exchange policy (Assurion doesn't just do replacements for damaged beyond repair, lost, or stolen... They do all refurbs as well) Sprint tech are being more selective about the phones for advance exchanges. Your absolute best bet, is a repair center at a Preferred Retailer. They have slightly looser rules and quotas to follow. Good luck guys!! Hope this helps.
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For all you people talking about skinny jeans and what not, my phone is bent as well and I've put it in the leg pocket of my cargo shorts since the day I got it. As someone else said, there is another thread about this, it's a known issue. The phone tends to bend just above the kickstand. I bought an Otterbox Commuter in the hope that it will prevent my phone from getting worse. I've had a TPU case on it from the start but everyone has said really good things about the Otterbox so I figured I'd give it a try.
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For all you people talking about skinny jeans and what not, my phone is bent as well and I've put it in the leg pocket of my cargo shorts since the day I got it. As someone else said, there is another thread about this, it's a known issue. The phone tends to bend just above the kickstand. I bought an Otterbox Commuter in the hope that it will prevent my phone from getting worse. I've had a TPU case on it from the start but everyone has said really good things about the Otterbox so I figured I'd give it a try.
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I'm kinda with this quote. I was being polite when I posted the link to the other thread on this very same issue.
The phone is solid guys. As a former repair tech for Sprint who has taken every single phone they sell apart, I can say this phone is sturdy. I have also taken this phone apart and beat on it pretty hard with power tools and an assortment of sand paper to polish the rear aluminum housing. I simply held it in my hand and sanded on it for hours, puttind a lot of stress on the part you guys are all calling weak, with out the screen or anything else the adding structural support.
I have had no issues what so ever and I only use a tpu case, if that.
If your phone is damaged, its not fair to place blame on anyone but yourselves, or possibly someone else if they were responsible.
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sullivan7221 said:
As a former repair tech for Sprint, MOST stores will consider that physical damage. There are some, I was one of them, that would exchange it, under the right circumstances, but most will not. It will depend on the level of damage and with Assurion cracking down on Sprints exchange policy (Assurion doesn't just do replacements for damaged beyond repair, lost, or stolen... They do all refurbs as well) Sprint tech are being more selective about the phones for advance exchanges. Your absolute best bet, is a repair center at a Preferred Retailer. They have slightly looser rules and quotas to follow. Good luck guys!! Hope this helps.
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It would consider it physical damage if the customer was an ass. Now if they were cool and not pulling that whole I've been with sprint for X amnt of years and I demand the best treatment card I'd be more willing to help
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True. Very true!
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I've been hearing about it but I just went to my local at&t store and saw it myself.
Does anyone else have this issue? Maybe I should hold off a month until they fix the issue.
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LOL zero gap.....
Maybe their definition of zero isn't the same as mine. Who knows?
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How is this an "issue"? You probably couldn't stuff a hair into that "gap".
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How is this an "issue"? You probably couldn't stuff a hair into that "gap".
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First off dust can go in there. Second it can get bigger because it does flew closed if you pinch it. Just means that it can go the other way too.
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How is this an "issue"? You probably couldn't stuff a hair into that "gap".
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It's bigger than u think. Really looks bad compared to one that doesn't have a gap. Look at the area below the headphone jack in the ops pic. That is zero gap, you can barely see the line. It loos like the machining process is a little off on some. The aluminum actually looks jagged on higher res pics, not a straight cut at all.
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It's bigger than u think. Really looks bad compared to one that doesn't have a gap.
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I'll take your word for it. I may feel the same way if I get one like that but the quality of this phone is so incredible I'm expecting to be too amazed to care about something so normal looking.
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How is this an "issue"? You probably couldn't stuff a hair into that "gap".
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Hi, I received my HTC One 32GB (AT&T) this morning via FEDEX, and it has a gap at the top. It IS definitely an issue. I can insert my fingernail into the gap. REGARDLESS, it shouldn't be there. it is ugly, and ruins the sleek, professional look of the phone.
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I'll take your word for it. I may feel the same way if I get one like that but the quality of this phone is so incredible I'm expecting to be too amazed to care about something so normal looking.
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That's the whole problem....incredible quality means no gaps.. With gaps like that there will be dust behind the screen in no time. That is very visible. Gaps are not incredible quality. They will replace them for this which means they also agree that it's not right. One x had some dust issues behind screen and were replaced.
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It's bigger than u think. Really looks bad compared to one that doesn't have a gap. Look at the area below the headphone jack in the ops pic. That is zero gap, you can barely see the line. It loos like the machining process is a little off on some. The aluminum actually looks jagged on higher res pics, not a straight cut at all.
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speaking of jagged aluminum, mine has some ugly marks on the mirrored chamfered edge near the headphone jack, looks like the machine that polished the aluminum, or cut it, or however they get the chamfered edge to look so clean and shiny, actually malfunctioned a little bit. I also have a couple obvious pits in the white plastic at a couple different locations around the phone's edge. The headphone jack is rough-edged on mine, and the speaker grille area is not the same height on the top and bottom grille, meaning there's a pronounced "ledge" where the bottom grille sticks out from the glass, and the top one does not, it is nearly perfectly flush.
I am annoyed because the demo unit at my local store is flawless as far as I can see. So it is not like they can't produce a good unit. IF every unit had similar discrepancies, I wouldn't have much to say, but knowing that mine is inferior, and they probably have an inferior assembly line somewhere, or at least some inferior batches, makes me very annoyed. This is not a $99 pay-as-you-go clamshell phone. We paid $650 cash after taxes for this device, and I damn well deserve better than what I got. Sorry if I sound picky or abrasive, that is not my intention. Believe me, I LOVE this phone, and if there is no recourse, I'll just keep it. But I would like to find out how I can return it. I have a feeling HTC is going to refer me to AT&T, and AT&T are going to be jerks about it on the phone. any advice? I know I asked for advice in another thread, but this thread specifically addresses my issue, and I am hoping someone has knowledge of returns with HTC/AT&T. I've only dealt with Apple for mobile phone returns for shoddy build quality; up until now, HTC hasn't shipped me a phone with an issue, neither has samsung.
thanks!
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speaking of jagged aluminum, mine has some ugly marks on the mirrored chamfered edge near the headphone jack, looks like the machine that polished the aluminum, or cut it, or however they get the chamfered edge to look so clean and shiny, actually malfunctioned a little bit. I also have a couple obvious pits in the white plastic at a couple different locations around the phone's edge. The headphone jack is rough-edged on mine, and the speaker grille area is not the same height on the top and bottom grille, meaning there's a pronounced "ledge" where the bottom grille sticks out from the glass, and the top one does not, it is nearly perfectly flush.
I am annoyed because the demo unit at my local store is flawless as far as I can see. So it is not like they can't produce a good unit. IF every unit had similar discrepancies, I wouldn't have much to say, but knowing that mine is inferior, and they probably have an inferior assembly line somewhere, or at least some inferior batches, makes me very annoyed. This is not a $99 pay-as-you-go clamshell phone. We paid $650 cash after taxes for this device, and I damn well deserve better than what I got. Sorry if I sound picky or abrasive, that is not my intention. Believe me, I LOVE this phone, and if there is no recourse, I'll just keep it. But I would like to find out how I can return it. I have a feeling HTC is going to refer me to AT&T, and AT&T are going to be jerks about it on the phone. any advice? I know I asked for advice in another thread, but this thread specifically addresses my issue, and I am hoping someone has knowledge of returns with HTC/AT&T. I've only dealt with Apple for mobile phone returns for shoddy build quality; up until now, HTC hasn't shipped me a phone with an issue, neither has samsung.
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They will replace it. No problem. First try a store. you have 15 days to return if not satisfied. 30 days on premier. Ive replaced a couple of one x's for visual defects without a problem. if the store gives you hassle, Call AT&T and tell,them, they will take care of you.
I don't think this gap will mean dust beneath the screen... It's because HTC decided oddly to put the speaker grills on afterwards and glue ons. So, the unibody is one piece... this glue on is just not very good. Any dust getting in that gap would get in through the speaker holes anyway.
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I don't think this gap will mean dust beneath the screen... It's because HTC decided oddly to put the speaker grills on afterwards and glue ons. So, the unibody is one piece... this glue on is just not very good. Any dust getting in that gap would get in through the speaker holes anyway.
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Doesn't make me feel much better, so my speaker grill will fall off? I wish they would have come up with a better design for the speaker cover
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Oh that's what they mean by the gap
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Doesn't make me feel much better, so my speaker grill will fall off? I wish they would have come up with a better design for the speaker cover
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Actually it will. Go to youtube ans search for a drop test, it's the first thing jumped jumped right off the phone.
HTC really is dropping the ball on this one. As something that you are advertising as a feature of a phone, you better be damn sure you actually have a grasp on what your advertising. I don't want to be lured in by a unibody design only to find out I have the Grand Canyon sitting on top of my phone.
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Prime said:
Actually it will. Go to youtube ans search for a drop test, it's the first thing jumped jumped right off the phone.
HTC really is dropping the ball on this one. As something that you are advertising as a feature of a phone, you better be damn sure you actually have a grasp on what your advertising. I don't want to be lured in by a unibody design only to find out I have the Grand Canyon sitting on top of my phone.
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Yes, a tiny, hairline gap on the top of the phone is considered "dropping the ball" on build quality. You must have missed the inexpensive, inferior material of your phone, which costed the same (if not more) as a phone made of superior materials.
Not to mention, if the phone can indeed be gutted easier by taking off the speaker grilles (which I believe has yet to be attempted/documented), using an adhesive to attach them to the phone is not necessarily a bad thing. I much prefer adhesive to clips, which can break over time. At least you can just re-glue the speaker grilles if they ever fall off. Just my two cents.
stop crying return the phone for another
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Yes, a tiny, hairline gap on the top of the phone is considered "dropping the ball" on build quality. You must have missed the inexpensive, inferior material of your phone, which costed the same (if not more) as a phone made of superior materials.
Not to mention, if the phone can indeed be gutted easier by taking off the speaker grilles (which I believe has yet to be attempted/documented), using an adhesive to attach them to the phone is not necessarily a bad thing. I much prefer adhesive to clips, which can break over time. At least you can just re-glue the speaker grilles if they ever fall off. Just my two cents.
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Ifixit gave it a score of 1 on reparability. I'm not so much worried about the speaker grills as you said,you can glue them back on. But what about the actual gap it self? Will it get bigger over time? Its HTC's flagship phone. Its supposed to be a premium phone with a premium finish. HTC is advertising something that they can not produce. Don't get me wrong I like the phone. But when it comes to materials, I would prefer Samsung's plastic over the aluminum that HTC is using. Aluminum is way more fragile cosmetically wise as its prone to more dents and scratches than plastic. Its cheaper to replace as well. With all that being said. I'm still buying the HTC one. Just disappointed in HTC.
My two cents.
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The title of this thread is ridiculous and good grief its a phone not a tank..
Return or exchange the phone if you are not happy with it..
Problem solved
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I think GAPGATE is a fantastic name and absolutely accurate. It may be a bigger problem than we know.
BTW the demo unit at a store I saw had one side that was a little rough and not smooth like the other side.
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I reach rehearsal a little late and was hurrying to get set up and put my 6P on my keyboard and completely forgot it was there. About 5 minutes into the rehearsal the vibrations from the bass in the rehearsal room and my playing seems to have caused the phone to slowly move about until it fell [emoji15].
After all those bend tests and scare tactics I'd seen here and on reddit I swore the phone was done for. It took a 4 foot drop onto a thin carpet. I'm not sure which part of the phone made impact, I just heard the thump and had that sinking feeling because I'm usually WAY more careful than this. It's always these kinda scenarios where I'm late or rushing when my devices get dropped. Anyhow, long and short, the phone is perfectly fine. Not a ding or scratch to be seen or felt. The device didn't bend or implode and all components work exactly as they did before.
Decided to write this post so those worrying can relax a bit. The phone is as durable as you'd expect it to be!
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With all the kids sitting on their phones, and slamming the 6P on tables to break the back glass, you'd almost expect it to implode Thanks for sharing this, and glad it's ok!
I noticed a microscopic scratch on my screen today. I've been pretty careful with the phone. Never put it face down or in pockets with coins/keys. So just an FYI it probably is pretty easy to scratch the screen if you're not careful with it.
Glad everything is OK!
Dropped mine 4 times now and it's fine
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I noticed a microscopic scratch on my screen today. I've been pretty careful with the phone. Never put it face down or in pockets with coins/keys. So just an FYI it probably is pretty easy to scratch the screen if you're not careful with it.
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Coins and keys will not scratch glass. Metal is softer than glass. Get some silica (sand/dirt/etc) in your pocket or a surface that you put the display side down on and accidentally grind it in and that definitely will.
Edit: that said. I keep my phone pocket clean and empty. If you drop your phone on concrete or pavement or the ground, DO NOT WIPE THE DISPLAY OFF! Blow the dirt off first before you cause friction wiping it. Then very carefully remove the rest. Make sure to keep your pockets dirt free. Shake them inside out if you suspect you got dirt in them.
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Cares said:
I noticed a microscopic scratch on my screen today. I've been pretty careful with the phone. Never put it face down or in pockets with coins/keys. So just an FYI it probably is pretty easy to scratch the screen if you're not careful with it.
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Classical of gorilla glass 4 screens. Notjing you can do.
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I noticed a microscopic scratch on my screen today. I've been pretty careful with the phone. Never put it face down or in pockets with coins/keys. So just an FYI it probably is pretty easy to scratch the screen if you're not careful with it.
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gorilla glass 4...harder to shatter at the expense of some scratch resistance
http://www.evolutivelabs.com/blogs/news/17122293-gorilla-glass-3-vs-4
First drop test of my phone last night. Using a clear case and have a Slickwraps with a glass screen protector. Dropped it off my lap getting out of the car onto the top of the phone and fell face down in the rocks. Small chip on the screen protector and no phone damage. Very happy.
Yeah, mine fell out of my lap onto the concrete from my truck about 2 days after I opened it.. No marks in glass but the metal on edge is a little scuffed. I hate cases since I love the way this phone feels in your hands but the scuff bugs me everytime I touch it lol
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I noticed a microscopic scratch on my screen today. I've been pretty careful with the phone. Never put it face down or in pockets with coins/keys. So just an FYI it probably is pretty easy to scratch the screen if you're not careful with it.
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Screen protector may help.
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I lucked out when I dropped mine. Completely naked, it bounced off my cat's water bowl and landed on the tile floor screen up. No physical damage at all!
(This was one day before my Spigen Ultra Hybrid case arrived - it's been in the case ever since)
lol at people rejoicing because their 6p didn't break
Never dropped my phone...until today I did it twice. Luckily I was at work where I keep the felt back case on it. One was 5 feet up on a hard floor....the case protected it perfectly. That being said...once my dbrand skin arrives ima have to be more careful. I always use tgsp though.
Cares said:
I noticed a microscopic scratch on my screen today. I've been pretty careful with the phone. Never put it face down or in pockets with coins/keys. So just an FYI it probably is pretty easy to scratch the screen if you're not careful with it.
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A screen protcetor will prevent your phone from scratching and dropping,why not?
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I reach rehearsal a little late and was hurrying to get set up and put my 6P on my keyboard and completely forgot it was there. About 5 minutes into the rehearsal the vibrations from the bass in the rehearsal room and my playing seems to have caused the phone to slowly move about until it fell [emoji15].
After all those bend tests and scare tactics I'd seen here and on reddit I swore the phone was done for. It took a 4 foot drop onto a thin carpet. I'm not sure which part of the phone made impact, I just heard the thump and had that sinking feeling because I'm usually WAY more careful than this. It's always these kinda scenarios where I'm late or rushing when my devices get dropped. Anyhow, long and short, the phone is perfectly fine. Not a ding or scratch to be seen or felt. The device didn't bend or implode and all components work exactly as they did before.
Decided to write this post so those worrying can relax a bit. The phone is as durable as you'd expect it to be!
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I had mine in my back pocket and sat in a folding chair. I only weigh 146, so it's not like I'm all that big. The back edge grazed the back support as I sat down. I heard a sickening crunch and when I looked at it the back of the phone the glass on the curved section had snapped. I wouldn't worry about the front of the devicedevice, but that back glass is not too impressive. I feel like that curved section didn't have enough support. The curve also likely contributed to the weakness. I now have a case that covers it up and I have no intentions of ever selling this device, but it is still pretty sickening. I've never cracked the glass on any device I've ever owned. This was the only disappointment I've had with this device, especially since I'd had it for less than two weeks at that point.
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toyanucci said:
I reach rehearsal a little late and was hurrying to get set up and put my 6P on my keyboard and completely forgot it was there. About 5 minutes into the rehearsal the vibrations from the bass in the rehearsal room and my playing seems to have caused the phone to slowly move about until it fell [emoji15].
After all those bend tests and scare tactics I'd seen here and on reddit I swore the phone was done for. It took a 4 foot drop onto a thin carpet. I'm not sure which part of the phone made impact, I just heard the thump and had that sinking feeling because I'm usually WAY more careful than this. It's always these kinda scenarios where I'm late or rushing when my devices get dropped. Anyhow, long and short, the phone is perfectly fine. Not a ding or scratch to be seen or felt. The device didn't bend or implode and all components work exactly as they did before.
Decided to write this post so those worrying can relax a bit. The phone is as durable as you'd expect it to be!
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You dropped it onto carpet though. I don't care how thin the carpet was, it does not merit a post.
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You dropped it onto carpet though. I don't care how thin the carpet was, it does not merit a post.
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It merits a post based on how fragile we were lead to believe this phone was.
Just saying...
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Hello everyone, since this thread was closed, I thought I'd reopen the discussion.
I'm currently waiting for my preorder to ship, but as of right now there is no specified date in Spain (just mid April). So I thought I'd ask you guys:
What do you think of the build quality? Do you see any potential issues in the near future? I saw the video of that guy scratch his G5 body very easily with a box cutter, of course, it's a box cutter! But do any of you think that will actually chip or scratch with normal usage? Like in your pocket, leaving it on the table, in your bag with other things? I do this all the time with my G4, G3, and every other device, but I have never seen such a video that a guy can literally take off the entire layer with little effort.
So people with devices, have any of you noticed or felt like the primer layer is weak or fragile enough to chip, break off, crack or come off by itself with little effort or every day wear? I'm planning on keeping this device for at least a year! (And yes, a case is on its way, but sometimes I do like to move around without a case - after all, these phones are designed without a case in mind...)
Thanks
The coating seems pretty durable, but I always use a skin on the phone so when I go to sell it it's in mint condition when I peel that skin off. I also keep the pocket it rides in free of other objects. I am sure if you took a box cutter to any phone, it would cause damage.
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The coating seems pretty durable, but I always use a skin on the phone so when I go to sell it it's in mint condition when I peel that skin off. I also keep the pocket it rides in free of other objects. I am sure if you took a box cutter to any phone, it would cause damage.
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That's good to know. I just felt like in the video it looked like it was very "soft" or malleable. I just wanted to see what actual owners thought about it . I'm excited to get mine!
It's durable so far. been putting in my pocket with keys and no scratches, dents or dings. Dropped twice off the back of my couch last night onto my hard wood floor and my heart skipped a beat - no damage at all.
I prefer no case. The only thing that will really f-up your phone is dust/dirt as it will scratch everything
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There are reports in some threads about small drops and keys dinging and scratching the phone.
With that said, it mostly depends on how it falls. I've heard of people's G4 body/screen cracking from five foot drops onto carpet. I've accidentally tossed mine eight feet in the air and had it land face down on pavement without a scratch, and that was using a Rinke Slim case.
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Hello everyone, since this thread was closed, I thought I'd reopen the discussion.
I'm currently waiting for my preorder to ship, but as of right now there is no specified date in Spain (just mid April). So I thought I'd ask you guys:
What do you think of the build quality? Do you see any potential issues in the near future? I saw the video of that guy scratch his G5 body very easily with a box cutter, of course, it's a box cutter! But do any of you think that will actually chip or scratch with normal usage? Like in your pocket, leaving it on the table, in your bag with other things? I do this all the time with my G4, G3, and every other device, but I have never seen such a video that a guy can literally take off the entire layer with little effort.
So people with devices, have any of you noticed or felt like the primer layer is weak or fragile enough to chip, break off, crack or come off by itself with little effort or every day wear? I'm planning on keeping this device for at least a year! (And yes, a case is on its way, but sometimes I do like to move around without a case - after all, these phones are designed without a case in mind...)
Thanks
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That thread was closed due to op only wanting to troll.
From what I gather you need to intentionally cut into the phone in order to chip. Falls may do it too
Sammae7 said:
There are reports in some threads about small drops and keys dinging and scratching the phone.
With that said, it mostly depends on how it falls. I've heard of people's G4 body/screen cracking from five foot drops onto carpet. I've accidentally tossed mine eight feet in the air and had it land face down on pavement without a scratch, and that was using a Rinke Slim case.
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That thread was closed due to op only wanting to troll.
From what I gather you need to intentionally cut into the phone in order to chip. Falls may do it too
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It's durable so far. been putting in my pocket with keys and no scratches, dents or dings. Dropped twice off the back of my couch last night onto my hard wood floor and my heart skipped a beat - no damage at all.
I prefer no case. The only thing that will really f-up your phone is dust/dirt as it will scratch everything
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That's good to know! That man just made it look so soft and malleable I couldn't believe it!
Thanks everyone
Also he was cutting with enough force to pretty badly scratch the aluminum itself, I don't know how you could reasonably expect a coating to do better...
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Also he was cutting with enough force to pretty badly scratch the aluminum itself, I don't know how you could reasonably expect a coating to do better...
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zkyevolved said:
That's good to know! That man just made it look so soft and malleable I couldn't believe it!
Thanks everyone
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And just to add, the phone though light has a solid heft to it (if that makes any sense). All of this talk of it being plastic has me fuming. I tapped the back and sides of the phone lightly on my granite counter top and there is no way in hell plastic makes a sound like that. I tried the same with my G3 and there are 2 distinct sounds...
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And just to add, the phone though light has a solid heft to it (if that makes any sense). All of this talk of it being plastic has me fuming. I tapped the back and sides of the phone lightly on my granite counter top and there is no way in hell plastic makes a sound like that. I tried the same with my G3 and there are 2 distinct sounds...
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Not to worry the people who are complaining on it don't and won't ever get one and merely parrot what someone else says. Um is one such
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And just to add, the phone though light has a solid heft to it (if that makes any sense). All of this talk of it being plastic has me fuming. I tapped the back and sides of the phone lightly on my granite counter top and there is no way in hell plastic makes a sound like that. I tried the same with my G3 and there are 2 distinct sounds...
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Haha, very good.
What people i hear are saying is it does not feel like metal in the hand. LG promised, LG lied, we are disappointed, bla, bla....
it would seem that reviewers are adamant we should live in a world where ALL phones are anodised 'premium' flat slabs !!
Some companies beg to differ.
What is so godamn premium about aluminium. Its the cheapest metal to use. Its soft and dents like anything.
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That's good to know! That man just made it look so soft and malleable I couldn't believe it!
Thanks everyone
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Jerry also bent the 6P with his bare hands, don't think it stopped anyone who wanted one
How is the leather back on the G4 holding up after nearly a year. Corners still peeling but never went beyond. The leather changed colour. The back on this is harder than leather.
So I appear to have developed a small chip on the top left side. I have been extremely careful with this phone in every way. Always in an empty pocket and set down carefully. Might have to get it exchanged.
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Sucks. Yeah its been solid for me so far.
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Just get a cover/case for your phone and if u dont like them dont complain about the chips and scratches. Just common sense you know.
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Just get a cover/case for your phone and if u dont like them dont complain about the chips and scratches. Just common sense you know.
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See that's the thing, I didn't coddle my G4. I liked the feel of the leather, and I'm absolutely certain that I have bumped into stuff while it is in my pocket, that's the facts of life. You can't really avoid that. What I saw in another review yesterday was that in 8 days the device began to chip at the bottom where the magic slot is located. That's from normal usage. I'm very inclined to give it a shot! I loved and still love my G4, but I'm worried that the G5 might not hold up past a few months without seriously degrading the build quality [emoji19]
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I hope you're wrong.
My 2 samsungs are very resistant : the Note 1 has felt 3-4 times, and the borders have just a liitle impact on a corner.
The Note 3 et Note 1 's paint are ok since the first day, no scratches, and the screens are ok too, without protection (just flip cover)
Samsung's phone are strong, hoping my future G5 is too :-/
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I hope you're wrong.
My 2 samsungs are very resistant : the Note 1 has felt 3-4 times, and the borders have just a liitle impact on a corner.
The Note 3 et Note 1 's paint are ok since the first day, no scratches, and the screens are ok too, without protection (just flip cover)
Samsung's phone are strong, hoping my future G5 is too :-/
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Samsung were very strong devices. The last two years have been very fragile if dropped. The S7E I have now feels like I need to keep it in a diaper... I could drop my note, note 2 or 4. LG G4 too! But if the G5 begins to chip soon after... For the love of God! Hopefully what people are saying is true: there is a factory that has issues, but it's one of the three that are producing! So that's good...
I'm keeping my fingers crossed [emoji106]
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me too! ^^
I scratched the silver edge of mine with my nail.. irritates me every time I look at it.
I posted over at Reddit that I had some camera scratches I couldn't figure out how I got. Turns out lots of people are reporting camera lens damage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/648ucd/camera_scratches/
Anyone here seeing scratches across the camera lens?
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They aren't scratches, its a coating that is very easily scratched. Possibly only affects black units, could just be easier to see.
How to I wrote up https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/64h13y/how_to_fix_camera_scratches/
Update - No scratches still.
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I posted over at Reddit that I had some camera scratches I couldn't figure out how I got. Turns out lots of people are reporting camera lens damage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/648ucd/camera_scratches/
Anyone here seeing scratches across the camera lens?
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I haven't, but then again I have mine in a case.
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I heard that the camera lens is covered with Gorilla Glass 4, which would make it just as scratch resistant as most phones out there. It is, however, flush with the rest of the phone, so it could easily be scratched if not in a case.
I don't have any scratches. I just looked at it with my big magnifier lamp and not a single scratch.
I had a case before my phone came (like the OP in the link). I'm very gentle with my stuff though. Don't put it in pocket with keys. When it's in the purse, it's facing fabric.
Mine is scratched. Only went without a case for 2 days. I am also careful with my phone but it seems that simply setting it down on a table has scratched my camera glass. I can't believe it would scratch that easily.
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Mine is scratched. Only went without a case for 2 days. I am also careful with my phone but it seems that simply setting it down on a table has scratched my camera glass. I can't believe it would scratch that easily.
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Ouch. I dropped mine on asphalt the day after I put it in a case. I heard it bounce on the ground three times. I was so lucky.
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I don't have any scratches. I just looked at it with my big magnifier lamp and not a single scratch.
I had a case before my phone came (like the OP in the link). I'm very gentle with my stuff though. Don't put it in pocket with keys. When it's in the purse, it's facing fabric.
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Agreed. Keys do havoc.
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maruichan said:
I don't have any scratches. I just looked at it with my big magnifier lamp and not a single scratch.
I had a case before my phone came (like the OP in the link). I'm very gentle with my stuff though. Don't put it in pocket with keys. When it's in the purse, it's facing fabric.
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This is why I'm so confused. I am so careful with my devices. I just have to have it look good enough to do a Jump on Demand trade in, and then move on I suppose.
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This is why I'm so confused. I am so careful with my devices. I just have to have it look good enough to do a Jump on Demand trade in, and then move on I suppose.
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You can still jump with minor nicks and scratches. That's considered normal wear and tear according to the jump guidelines.
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This is why I'm so confused. I am so careful with my devices. I just have to have it look good enough to do a Jump on Demand trade in, and then move on I suppose.
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Look at this durability video. Granite can supposedly scratch the lens if you're not careful. So yay it's not sticking out... but not strong enough to slide around.
The rest of the phone is well made though
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PolarisX said:
This is why I'm so confused. I am so careful with my devices. I just have to have it look good enough to do a Jump on Demand trade in, and then move on I suppose.
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You can still jump with minor nicks and scratches. That's considered normal wear and tear according to the jump guidelines.
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Yes, but it shouldn't be allowed to happen because it could potentially cause a crack.
See: V20 durability test
https://youtu.be/nBlUL-7Dl4U?t=2m23s
This is why I ordered my case Amazon Prime the moment I did my pre-order. Juuuust in case.
They aren't scratches, its a ****ty coating as I just found out.
I used Mcguire's polishing compound on a Dremel polishing wheel at low speed and its all gone. The darkish coating came off and its perfect again. Looks brand brand new. I have no idea if it was anti glare, or was supposed to be removed before shipment. The picture quality seems the same.
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They aren't scratches, its a ****ty coating as I just found out.
I used Mcguire's polishing compound on a Dremel polishing wheel at low speed and its all gone. The darkish coating came off and its perfect again. Looks brand brand new. I have no idea if it was anti glare, or was supposed to be removed before shipment. The picture quality seems the same.
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Nice! I wonder if they added the coating due to the possibility of crack of v20. Not going to attempt to remove mine just yet.
No idea, but so many people are going to return over this issue. This might sink this phone if they don't stop putting this coating on immediately.
Other forums are quoting this thread already.
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No idea, but so many people are going to return over this issue. This might sink this phone if they don't stop putting this coating on immediately.
Other forums are quoting this thread already.
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With your mention of a coating, it's possible they put an oleophobic coating on the camera lens. I don't understand what else you would put on top of GG4.
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No idea, but so many people are going to return over this issue. This might sink this phone if they don't stop putting this coating on immediately.
Other forums are quoting this thread already.
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With only 338 views, I don't think LG will be rushing to make the change
I don't know how you guys are getting scratches. I have nada on mine... but I'll keep checking for it over time and maybe catch a shot of it underneath my lamp + magnifier.
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With only 338 views, I don't think LG will be rushing to make the change
I don't know how you guys are getting scratches. I have nada on mine... but I'll keep checking for it over time and maybe catch a shot of it underneath my lamp + magnifier.
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Honestly, though I'm not saying you all don't have scratches, stuff like this comes up for just about every phone I've ever used. The last was the Note7 where people were claiming that GG5 was the softest material on planet Earth and scratched on denim. Now people are upset the G6 doesn't have GG5 on the front.
I literally just noticed it today. I also only went 2 days without the case. I thought there was a small piece of packing plastic on it. ?
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Dumb question, but is it possible some of you are scratching lens when you have cleaned it with certain materials? For example, a napkin...
It reminds me of that coated feeling when you rub the readable side of a CD. I tried cleaning a game once with a paper towel and it gave it a million scratches which made it unreadable. It's possible this film is just as sensitive?
I have yet to clean my lens with anything but my finger
maruichan said:
Dumb question, but is it possible some of you are scratching lens when you have cleaned it with certain materials? For example, a napkin...
It reminds me of that coated feeling when you rub the readable side of a CD. I tried cleaning a game once with a paper towel and it gave it a million scratches which made it unreadable. It's possible this film is just as sensitive?
I have yet to clean my lens with anything but my finger
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This surprises me. Mine has scratches as well.This must have happened before I put a case on my phone, and when I sat the phone on a surface with the camera side facing down
. One of the scratches goes across one of the lenses. Bummer.
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echto said:
This surprises me. Mine is has scratches as well.This must have happened before I put a case on my phone, and when I sat the phone on a surface with the camera side facing down
. One of the scratches goes across one of the lenses. Bummer.
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I have some scratches on mine also. I don't notice a difference in my photos though. Does anyone see any defects in their photos due to the scratches?
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