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If anyone who desires to get known issues passed on to HTC if you would be so kind to head over to this thread and post any relevant information you have. Not trying to promote the forums over there I just right now have a good conversation going with HTC through a tech support ticket and I mentioned of the good community forums I take part in here and AC and they asked for links to specific threads and if there was a thread of known issues. So I figured it can not hurt to try and pass them on specific information since a ton of people never call in after dealing with tech support of VZ and so these issues are never addressed by people who need to know about to them look into them.
Thank you
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-thunderbolt/84637-please-help-create-list-known-issues-htc.html
Sense 3.0..battery life..smoother scrolling..screen snapshot.
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+1 on battery
Note - even with the below, I absolutely LOVE this phone.
Video Camera Sound Recording - OTA seems to have resolved this for me
3G <=> 4G Handoff - OTA seems to have resolved this for me
Battery Life - I have few to no complaints, but improvements always welcome
WiFi Timeout/Drop - Has happened since launch day, OTA did not fix (When at home and using WiFi, if I leave it on but don't use it for a lenghty period of time, the data seems to stop working and I have to disconnect/reconnect wifi to get it working again. I use many other WiFi devices in my home and none suffer from this issue, which leads me to blame the phone.)
GPS Lock Issues - started after OTA for me
Random Reboots - started after OTA for me, two so far, but that's two more than are welcome.
Voice Call Volume - even on lowest setting, mine is freaking loud. Bearable, but loud.
Weird stuff going on with my local cell towers and the network location provider on my Aria.
For the longest time, I'd been using the Aria Liberated R012 ROM. I never had any problems with using the network location provider in various apps (HTC Date/Weather Clock, Google Maps, Yelp, etc.) until just about two weeks ago.
I noticed that on the road from home to work, I wasn't getting ANY location fix. But when I'd take a trip out to a different location for shopping, suddenly I'd get the location updates again. GPS works fine, but I don't want to keep it on all the time for simple location data.
I thought perhaps AT&T's recent slews of OTA updates might have something to do with it. So I decided I'd do something I was planning on doing for a while now anyway: load a newer ROM which might incorporate any patches that AT&T had made.
I opted for Cyanogen 7. Installed it last night. Found it ran a little sluggish on my Aria (even after overclocking), but noted that my network location provider was working again.
I ultimately decided that I couldn't deal with the sluggishness. So this morning, I installed Cyanogen 6, AND THEN I tried out the new Aria Liberated 2.2.2 ROM. What I noticed in BOTH of these Froyo builds, was that my network location provider was once again NOT working.
I know part of this puzzle involves the configuration of AT&T's local cell towers. But what about the rest of it: why would Cyanogen 7 (Gingerbread) work, while Cyanogen 6 and Liberated 2.2.2 (Froyo) fail?
And in the case of the two Cyanogen mods, might the difference have something to do with what version of the Google Apps addon I install? When I get a free minute today, I might do some further testing on this last theory. Scratch that theory. I had previously tried installing Cyanogen 6 with a version of Google Apps from 2010. But even with a Google Apps APK from May 1st, 2011, the network location provider ain't providin'.
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Corporate Dog
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Weird stuff going on with my local cell towers and the network location provider on my Aria.
For the longest time, I'd been using the Aria Liberated R012 ROM. I never had any problems with using the network location provider in various apps (HTC Date/Weather Clock, Google Maps, Yelp, etc.) until just about two weeks ago.
I noticed that on the road from home to work, I wasn't getting ANY location fix. But when I'd take a trip out to a different location for shopping, suddenly I'd get the location updates again. GPS works fine, but I don't want to keep it on all the time for simple location data.
I thought perhaps AT&T's recent slews of OTA updates might have something to do with it. So I decided I'd do something I was planning on doing for a while now anyway: load a newer ROM which might incorporate any patches that AT&T had made.
I opted for Cyanogen 7. Installed it last night. Found it ran a little sluggish on my Aria (even after overclocking), but noted that my network location provider was working again.
I ultimately decided that I couldn't deal with the sluggishness. So this morning, I installed Cyanogen 6, AND THEN I tried out the new Aria Liberated 2.2.2 ROM. What I noticed in BOTH of these Froyo builds, was that my network location provider was once again NOT working.
I know part of this puzzle involves the configuration of AT&T's local cell towers. But what about the rest of it: why would Cyanogen 7 (Gingerbread) work, while Cyanogen 6 and Liberated 2.2.2 (Froyo) fail?
And in the case of the two Cyanogen mods, might the difference have something to do with what version of the Google Apps addon I install? When I get a free minute today, I might do some further testing on this last theory. Scratch that theory. I had previously tried installing Cyanogen 6 with a version of Google Apps from 2010. But even with a Google Apps APK from May 1st, 2011, the network location provider ain't providin'.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
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While I can't help with the actual problem, cm7 has a lot of eye candy turned on by default that can be turned off. It needs a little love but you can definitely get rid of that sluggishness and it will run very smooth and snappy.
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While I can't help with the actual problem, cm7 has a lot of eye candy turned on by default that can be turned off. It needs a little love but you can definitely get rid of that sluggishness and it will run very smooth and snappy.
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Thanks! I'll probably take a second look at that cm7 thread when I get a chance, and might even try to reinstall it.
For what it's worth, the Aria Liberated 2.2.2 thread clued me in to the fact that AT&T also pushed a radio update when they pushed the OS update. It's possible they made some tweaks to my local cell towers that don't play nice with the old radio configuration. Guess I'll try to install that radio update next.
EDIT: And that's strike two.
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Corporate Dog
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Thanks! I'll probably take a second look at that cm7 thread when I get a chance, and might even try to reinstall it.
For what it's worth, the Aria Liberated 2.2.2 thread clued me in to the fact that AT&T also pushed a radio update when they pushed the OS update. It's possible they made some tweaks to my local cell towers that don't play nice with the old radio configuration. Guess I'll try to install that radio update next.
EDIT: And that's strike two.
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Corporate Dog
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Your radio only needs to be installed once. It doesn't get cleared or overwritten when you wipe/install new ROMs through Clockworkmod. You can check the version either from the HBOOT screen or from Phone settings when booted up.
It's HIGHLY recommended that you not change the radio version more than absolutely necessary as it is a very risky installation that can permanently brick your phone if it goes wrong. I'm not saying to be scared of installing it once, but just don't install it every time you install a ROM.
As for CM7 -- I find that the default launcher (ADW) lags like crazy. I always immediately switch to LauncherPro and get a much smoother experience. You should probably give that a try.
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While I can't help with the actual problem, cm7 has a lot of eye candy turned on by default that can be turned off. It needs a little love but you can definitely get rid of that sluggishness and it will run very smooth and snappy.
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What default options are turned on?
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What default options are turned on?
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Surface dithering, over scroll effects, and window animations are a few I can remember off the top of my head. Turn those off and drop vm heap down to 24 (or 16 if your apps allow it) and set home to persistent and you get a nice little boost. Then there's the fact that adw is set up for looks, not performance, out of the box. Scroll and opening speeds are set rather slow.
I'm not sure about adw, but launcherpro also has advanced settings to tweak for performance gains.
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Heh. Turns out I was wrong about cm7. I must've had GPS turned on at the time, because my latest test run with it isn't producing a network location fix.
Time to go 10 rounds with AT&T tech support. Should be real fun trying to explain to the level 1 script reader that there's a problem with their local cell tower.
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A new development:
When I go into Settings and check 'Use Only 2G Networks', network-based positioning works again.
Seems to be some sort of problem with WCDMA versus GSM. I've managed to dig up some other threads (in this forum and others) where folks with other types of phones (N1, HTC Inspire) have reported similar issues.
I blamed AT&T in my last post, but I've also seen a suggestion that the problem might have something to do with a setting in the Google Services Framework that points to an incorrect URL for the LAC/CID to Lat/Long translation service. I may play with that when I get a chance.
That also doesn't really explain why my original Eclair mod stopped working, or why more people don't seem to have this problem.
More information as it becomes available...
Regards,
Corporate Dog
Regarding radio, i have the latest radio that was posted. It seems to have improved my reception fairly well.
Meh. The Google Services Framework fix that I found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9576852&postcount=108
... didn't do anything for me. YMMV.
At this point, I suspect that I have to chalk this up to cell tower configuration.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
EDIT: Just got off the phone with AT&T Customer Support. I called them a few days ago, and the Level 1 support drone forewarded me to the "TeleNav" service center (despite all of my protestations). TeleNav support proceeded to tell me that they don't do support for phones (Gosh. You don't say...) Today's Level 1 drone was a bit better, and forwarded me to someone who actually seemed to be in a position to help.
He didn't have an answer for me, but he WAS willing to help me escalate this to an engineering ticket. He told me to go pick up a new sim card at my local AT&T store, and see if a new sim/device provisioning would take care of the issue. In the meantime, he's sending me a second Aria through the Warranty Exchange process, so I can try to recreate the issue on a different phone.
If I strike out on both counts, he'll escalate it. Otherwise, I'll have a solution of SOME kind sitting in the palm of my hand.
Is setting home for persistent only for adw launcher ?
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Surface dithering, over scroll effects, and window animations are a few I can remember off the top of my head. Turn those off and drop vm heap down to 24 (or 16 if your apps allow it) and set home to persistent and you get a nice little boost. Then there's the fact that adw is set up for looks, not performance, out of the box. Scroll and opening speeds are set rather slow.
I'm not sure about adw, but launcherpro also has advanced settings to tweak for performance gains.
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The new sim card didn't do anything for me.
But suddenly, completely out of the blue, at some point yesterday afternoon...? The network location provider decided that it wanted to begin working for my area again. I hadn't done a THING to the configuration on my phone all day, and when I stepped outside my office, it just worked.
I think I'll still call AT&T back, and ask them what the hell they changed with their cell tower configuration. I doubt I'll get anywhere with it, but it would be useful to know, since this seems to be a random thing that occurs from time-to-time on different carriers (the link I provided earlier described the same issue, but on Rogers Communication's network).
Regards,
Corporate Dog
UPDATE: I called AT&T today, and unfortunately, they couldn't tell me whether anything changed on their towers. It'd be nice to know what they were tinkering with, so I could just cut to the chase with tech support if it happens again, but for now, I guess I'll just be happy that it's working again.
A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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I don't think there's WiFi calling on p500 ROMs so that might be a problem.
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Your best bet, go with GingerLOL, it has the best battery life I have heard from any user who is using official gingerbread, our phones never came with the official gingerbread, atleast not that I know about, I'm in the US, figured all OpT devices that aren't rooted are still on froyo....as far as price range, I'm not sure but you might be able to grab em off eBay for alittle under a hundred bucks
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
This link will take you to ciaox one in all Opt page, great use of information...each rom is separate by version
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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Isn't that froyo based?
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A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
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Judging by the phones you've listed you're in the U.S. The HTC Wildfire S is the cheapest GB Android with native WiFi calling.
1. Any T-Mobile Android includes native WiFi Calling via Kineto and works really well.
2. Gingerbread with WiFi calling on the Optimus T is a no go. Froyo only.
3. Really depends, "moderate" isn't descriptive enough.
4. Opt T has a plastic screen, screen protector is a must.
Also, consider Wifi calling via GrooveIP which uses Google Voice and is FREE. Call quality isn't top notch and receiving calls via WiFi doesn't work well. Upside, it'll work on any Android and with all carriers.
Cheapest option. A SOHO ATA with a standard cordless phone. I love my OBi100
For battery life i suggest getting an extended battery pack. Using your phone as a "data terminal" and wanting to have 12 hours is near impossible
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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I understand now. In that case any phone would work. However, Gingerbread is only available via an unofficial port. I'm currently using miks unofficial port of CM7 6.5.8 (Gingerbread) on my Optimus T and it's stable and bug free for daily use IMO.
The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
I suggest you buy a couple and see how it goes. There's a 30 day return policy so you have nothing to loose (except time).
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The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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As a user I remember battery life was better when I connected to a STUN server. I've only used SIP on Android connecting via the internet, you're right it's useless in your scenario.
Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Most of my (expected) use is to replace what goes over the walkie-talkies, stuff like "come to the office" or "Bob, go to the back gate", which tends to be short and not terribly latency sensitive. I'll probably try it, but it won't go live for a couple months.
There's a nifty spec for push-to-talk-over-cellular, which is actually a 3GPP-written SIP extension, which is way, way, way beyond anything the SIP stack in Android is capable of dealing with at this point. Oh, well...
I'm so frustrated not sure what to do about it anymore. If I let me phone site idle anywhere from 10 minutes to 1+ hour. I will wake the phone it will show wifi is connected but there is no connectivity. No matter what app I go into, browser, slacker radio, play store etc. Nothing will load cause it can't connect. I have to toggle wifi widget off & back on before it will work again. The problem is intermittent as far as when it acts up but it usually does multiple times a day. It did it on stock rom, now stock with goodies 1.79 also just tried this method here but same issue. I have not updated my radios yet cause I don't want the new hboot but I might just update it to see if it will fix the issue.
Does anyone else run tomato firmware? My wifi router & home router both use tomato firmware so I'm not sure if it's just an issue with this or what. The same issue also happens on friends evo LTE at work. Tomato is some of the most rock solid firmware I have had and never had an issue like this with any other device or phone. Evo3D worked perfect and the orginal evo. I have tried everything I can think of to get it working from settings it to 2.4 only to replacing the settings apk nothing helps. I have no idea what to do about it anymore I have tried averting I can think of.
I guess I could try flashing different firmware on the router but I'd rather not. Does anyone else here run Tomato firmware 1.28 that could report if they have this issue or not? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone run tomato firmware or have this issue?
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Try changing the security on the router to wep.
Its actually a very common problem on a lot of routers with wpa activated, its not just the phone
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Its actually a very common problem on a lot of routers with wpa activated, its not just the phone
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I have the problem. Don't think it is the router, since none of my other wifi devices have this problem, including my OG EVO. Tried a few of the fixes on the forum; so far, nothing's worked. I ended up using Llama to turn off my wifi when I'm at home and my screen is off, and turn it on when I'm at home and my screen is on; this way, my wifi is always cycled when my screen turns on.
Have not updated to the 2.13 firmware yet, though, since I'm waiting on some of the ROMs to get updated.
well I was just stating it is a known issue with routers in general, my father has a great internet connection, his brand new top of the line laptop has the exact same issue, my cousin's tablet on my dads router, same issue, he has wireless cameras for security, same issue, every time I go visit him, I power cycle his router and release all dns leases for good measure, My old (ancient by todays standards) Dell Inspiron laptop from 2000 runs Ubuntu with a work around that allows me to use windows firmware as a means to enable wireless, it reports a 2MB connection almost all the time and on his network, my dusty old wireless b/g runs circles around his spanking new wireless n laptop, the network manager used by Ubuntu will automatically disconnect and reconnect when ever this issue come up
edit: I just remembered stock has an issue when you enable best performance from wireless menu, something to check on
Thanks for some feedback, what I don't get this was never an issue with my 3D or my original evo. I'm running WPA2 AES at home and WPA TKIP at work. Exact same problem. Why is it only an issue with this phone and never had an issue with the other phones? I could use lama I suppose but I would rather not it should work correctly. I don't have any problems with any other device. I haven't seen any feedback on this issue except for now from you guys. I would have to think it isn't affecting that many people and I can't be the only one using WPA. I really don't wanna knock it down to WEP but it seems like there is no way to fix it. Since I have an office job and at home during the evening it's extremely frustrating to pick up your phone multiple times a day and nothing works. I guess I could try a different router or firmware but it has to be an issue with the phone have ran this router for years with lots of different devices and it's never had an issue.
I was never this frustrated with the original evo or the 3D. I have no idea how to fix this issue or where to even go from here. I'm seriously considering dumping this and getting a GSIII and I have been very loyal to HTC but between this wi-fi issue that I can't get rid of, the lame ass htc dev s-on restrictions and the horrible multi-tasking I'm really starting to dislike this phone. If I could fix this stupid wi-fi I could live with the other stuff. The only thing I haven't tried is updating my radios from the latest ota cause I didn't want the new hboot.
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I have the problem. Don't think it is the router, since none of my other wifi devices have this problem, including my OG EVO. Tried a few of the fixes on the forum; so far, nothing's worked. I ended up using Llama to turn off my wifi when I'm at home and my screen is off, and turn it on when I'm at home and my screen is on; this way, my wifi is always cycled when my screen turns on.
Have not updated to the 2.13 firmware yet, though, since I'm waiting on some of the ROMs to get updated.
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None of my other devices have this issue either just this phone. What router do you use? I have a WRT54GL with Tomato 1.28 at home and a WRT54GS with Tomato 1.28 at work.
I'm using a WRT54G (old one, equivalent to the -GL) running DD-WRT. It's been rock solid for everything else.
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I'm using a WRT54G (old one, equivalent to the -GL) running DD-WRT. It's been rock solid for everything else.
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I wonder if it's something with the router then. Like I said I run Tomato on a WRT54GL at home & a WRT54GS at work. All 3 of our models are very similar hardware wise. I was thinking about trying DD-WRT which I don't really care for I prefer tomato. I don't really want to replace my router for 1 phone when everything else works perfect on the network. I even have three 3M-50 wifi thermostats hooked up at work and one 3M-50 at home. Even those have been rock solid no connection issues what so ever just this stupid phone.
Now that you mention it I had to do the exact same thing on my Asus rtn16 running tomato firmware.
I was running my Epic back then I thought it was the phone.
Running my EVO now with a Netgear 3800 I never have to toggle wifi for data.
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Now that you mention it I had to do the exact same thing on my Asus rtn16 running tomato firmware.
I was running my Epic back then I thought it was the phone.
Running my EVO now with a Netgear 3800 I never have to toggle wifi for data.
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I wonder if it's an issue with the aftermarket firmware but I just have never had issues on any other devices. I wonder if there is settings I could tweak to make it go away but I wouldn't know which settings to change.
Its the fact the wpask, tkip and other advanced encryptions are very broad standards, the hardware supports it but how well if supports it is the problem. Some routers implement the protocols in a very different way then others.
I.e. broadcom vs atheros, many atheros chipset fully support all standards while broadcom uses more proprietary implementations
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This has been a big issue with desktop Linux, I wouldn't be surprised if the issue stands with android as well
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Its the fact the wpask, tkip and other advanced encryptions are very broad standards, the hardware supports it but how well if supports it is the problem. Some routers implement the protocols in a very different way then others.
I.e. broadcom vs atheros, many atheros chipset fully support all standards while broadcom uses more proprietary implementations
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This has been a big issue with desktop Linux, I wouldn't be surprised if the issue stands with android as well
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Maybe it's time to just upgrade my routers. It just pisses me off I have used tomato for years without any issues on any device.
It happens, not much you can do about it. There's a whole consortium of these guys, you think the standards wouldn't be so lax. Then again they are still arguing about the new widi (yes thats a thing now) standards
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Maybe it's time to just upgrade my routers. It just pisses me off I have used tomato for years without any issues on any device.
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I updated to the new OTA (2.13) and still get the wifi dropouts.
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I updated to the new OTA (2.13) and still get the wifi dropouts.
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I updated my radios and went to mean rom 3.9 and updated to 4 tonight. So far it has been much better. I have only had to toggle it once but I haven't had that much time to test so will see how this week goes.
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Sim-X said:
I updated my radios and went to mean rom 3.9 and updated to 4 tonight. So far it has been much better. I have only had to toggle it once but I haven't had that much time to test so will see how this week goes.
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I will say it has been much better, but not completely cured. Probably had to toggle twice in three or four days.
Well I have given the new radios a good run and I have to say the issue is pretty much cured. I have only had it happen one time and I'm not sure if my router just glitched or I didn't wait long enough. So I am very happy with the new radios & mean rom the phone has been rock solid. I was seriously considering getting rid of it because I couldn't stand the wi-fi dropping all the time it really made for a very poor experience. Yes I had to upgrade the hboot to upgrade the radios but I'm not gonna wait forever for s-off and I really don't think it's that big of deal. Mean rom now has an s-on kernel installer that automatically does it now so it really isn't any different. So anyone having trouble make sure you upgrade your radios see if it helps.
When I got the Mediapad X1 (503L) a couple months back it came with 4.2.2. and the wifi and cell signal were pretty weak and inconsistent. They were workable however...
I upgraded to 4.4.2 (B007) and it seemed to be a little better for a month or so, however lately in the last week or so it had seemed to take a downward spiral. The Wifi is connected but no data gets transferred at all. I have to put it in airplane mode to get the wifi to "reset"
Any one else notice this? This phone is great, but the wifi and 3G/4G stuff just seems to stall and hang way too much.
I'm located in the US on AT&T.
In my experience B006 was best for gsm signal. At the price of no 5GHz wifi.
2.4GHz works fine in both versions for me. But then I am in Europe................ .........
mru55 said:
In my experience B006 was best for gsm signal. At the price of no 5GHz wifi.
2.4GHz works fine in both versions for me. But then I am in Europe................ .........
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I can understand issues with 3G and 4G in USA as the phone is made and tested in China with different frequency needs,
But Wifi is the same everywhere isn't it?
No it isn't.
Until a few years ago you had to select USA, europe, or Japan when setting up a wifi network. This process is automated now based on network parameters "spied" by the modem.
Huawei implements this poorly or not at all on their chinese market devices, including the international 501L not intended for the US market.
The good news is: it isn't like it won't work at all. Sometimes it just helps changing the channel. The wifi analyzer app is a great tool...... .. .. ... ....
Otherwise one would have to extract the modem apk of a dedicated us provider from the rom.
Great information!
I'm using a 503L, Wifi in the US is very hit or miss. (Which makes sense now reading your post)
How do I get the phone to use a certain channel? That's up to the Wifi access point isn't it?
omniphil said:
Great information!
I'm using a 503L, Wifi in the US is very hit or miss. (Which makes sense now reading your post)
How do I get the phone to use a certain channel? That's up to the Wifi access point isn't it?
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I used the app wifi analyzer to see which channel is the best.
And yes, then you change it in the router.
Phone is really getting bad now with signal, several times a day now The Wifi is connected but won't actually transfer any data, the same with 3G/4G. Sometimes even putting it into airplane mode doesn't fix it and I have to do a full reboot.
The other big problem is app being shut off automatically in the background. I use Google Hangouts and Line to chat with people and after a while those processes get closed and won't give me notifications until I manually open the app which seems to restart it.
I really hope there is a fix in the works (I'm on the B010 update)
The 4.2.2 seemed to be more reliable for signal issues and never closed apps in the background, however the performance of 4.2.2 was terrible...
Just a warning for any folks in the USA that are considering this phone.
Have clicked those apps in "power saving /protected apps"?
I don't know what to tell you about your comm issues. Wifi AND phone does not point to an antenna issue. Maybe a factory reset or loading the firmware once more?
mru55 said:
Have clicked those apps in "power saving /protected apps"?
I don't know what to tell you about your comm issues. Wifi AND phone does not point to an antenna issue. Maybe a factory reset or loading the firmware once more?
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Yes, they are setup as "Protected" still doesn't keep them from stopping.
I'm hoping we see another update from Huawei so I can start from scratch with the version instead of wiping what I already have.
Yeah, waiting is notva bad choice.
I am doing the same, waiting for a standalone B008 for my 503L. If that is no good I'll go back to B006.
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Yeah, waiting is notva bad choice.
I am doing the same, waiting for a standalone B008 for my 503L. If that is no good I'll go back to B006.
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The 503L is up to B010, not sure they will do a B008?
Forgot to mention that as long as 4.4.2 forces the dpi to 400, I ain't changing.
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Forgot to mention that as long as 4.4.2 forces the dpi to 400, I ain't changing.
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Yeah, that really needs to be fixed too. I am sort of getting used to the larger DPI, but the issue is app compatibility, so many apps won't install from the Google Play store with the 400DPI
Has anyone tried that Custom Recovery for the 503L? I sure which I could take a backup of the whole rom, i'd Probably got back to 4.2.2 as everything seemed to work better just performance was laggy.
@omniphil you could try the cwm at my thread. I got it from the German and Russian forums which in turn got it feom the Chinese forums.
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@omniphil you could try the cwm at my thread. I got it from the German and Russian forums which in turn got it feom the Chinese forums.
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I saw that thread, but after reading, it seemed like it only worked on the 501.
You could give it a shot. At worst you reflash your stock recovery. Use Flashify, incredibly easy.
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