I apologize if this is redundant but I searched the forums and was unable to find an answer. Can I take a non-contract Verizon VS985 over to the Sprint network and expect full functionality? If not, what problems (specific bands, LTE, etc) can I expect? I'm trying to determine if it's an easy transfer or if I'm better off buying a Sprint G3. Thanks!
Verizon uses CDMA on Bands 0 and 1, and LTE on Bands 13, 4, and 2.
Sprint uses CDMA on Bands 1 and 10, and LTE on Bands 25, 26, and 41.
If (huge if) you are able to get Sprint to add your Verizon LG G3 to their IMEI approved database, you'll be limited to just CDMA Band 1, which is in the 1900MHz range, so it doesn't have good building penetration, shorter signal distance, etc. You'll be limited to very slow EVDO speeds, no LTE at all.
You're better off getting the Sprint model, as it has all of Sprint's CDMA and LTE bands, as well as a functional FM radio receiver (which was disabled in the Verizon/AT&T/etc models).
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Well, being a T-Mobile customer (and preferring to stay one) I was interested in the fact that the new S4 Google Play edition seems to support the Verizon 700mhz LTE frequencies but is sold as an AT&T and T-Mobile device only.
NETWORK
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (700, 850, AWS, 1900 MHz)
So does this purport that the device is able to roam on Verizion's 4G LTE data network when there is no AT&T or T-Mobile network present?
Interesting. I'll be doing some research.
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It'd only be viable if there is a CDMA radio hidden somewhere in there as well. Otherwise you would have no voice service.
Omen87 said:
It'd only be viable if there is a CDMA radio hidden somewhere in there as well. Otherwise you would have no voice service.
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Verizon announced today that in 2014 there will be available LTE-only phones... phones sold with LTE and no CDMA radios as they have finished their LTE rollout nationwide. They also said they will flip on a switch to enable VoLTE ... Voice over LTE around the same time.
However, I really don't care about voice service, I just want Verizon LTE data roaming in all areas of the country where T-Mobile customers are seemingly in a blackhole datawise with 0G connections
Could you imagine the money to be made if a phone covered every network and frequency band? Somebody needs to do this lol
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You cannot in anyway use Verizon 3g or 4g unless your devices imei is in their database regardless if it supports the frequencies . also there are sub divisions of the 700mhz band. Both att and Verizon have divisions in the 700mhz band
It does not support Verizon LTE. There are multiple blocks within the 700mhz spectrum, and they are NOT compatible. Verizon uses the 700mhz C-block, which is closer to 750mhz. It's actually 746-756 and 777-787.
AT&T uses the 700mhz B-block. This is 704-716, and 734-746. They are NOT compatible with each other. Phones have to be designed to either support B-block or C-block. There are no devices out currently that can support both as the carriers have a block between them. Qualcomm is lobbying congress to end that block, though this lobby may be pointless. Verizon is currently looking to sell their 700mhz block to AT&T. This would allow AT&T more room in the 700mhz band with the block removed, while Verizon would get more AWS spectrum support (dual down/uplingh for faster speeds). It would also allow Verizon to shed the provision that requires them to allow an unlocked device on their network (something that they hate).
Bottom line is that no, this phone is not compatible with Verizon LTE.
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Verizon uses Band 13 and Band 4 for LTE while ATT uses Band 17 and Tmo uses Band 4 and Sprint uses Band 25 so All of the Carriers uses different bands. Eventually most of them will use Band 4 AWS.
The Nexus 4 can use LTE on hacked ROMs on Band 4 AWS
Hi all,
I tried searching but couldn't find an answer so here's my question:
Will the Verizon LG G3 work on AT&Tand will it get 4G and/ or LTE?
Yes.
jiml87 said:
Hi all,
I tried searching but couldn't find an answer so here's my question:
Will the Verizon LG G3 work on AT&Tand will it get 4G and/ or LTE?
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It depends.
Verizon 700MHz Block C band 13, 1200/1900 AWS band 4.
AT&T 700MHz Block B Band 17, 1700AWS Band 4.
So the answer is only in markets where 1700AWS Band 4 is deployed for AT&T otherwise you ge HSPA+ which is not truly 4G.
Yes, he is right above. Where I live and have visited, I get LTE on both ATT and T-Mobile, or Edge on T-Mobile where they haven't yet refarmed their Edge towers. H+ is fine for me though, when I do sometimes see it. I have not had my Verizon LTE sim in my VG3 for over a month.
I get ATT LTE on the G3 often in regions like the NC coast where T-Mobile is only Edge.
. Could someone please help me find the correct settings to make A Verizon LG g3 work on AT&T 4G LTE in Birmingham Alabama. I have already gotten a SIM card that is supposed to work on unlocked phone from AT&T however for some reason I cannot get 4G LTE only H and when I use speed test it only runs a maximum download of about 6.5 mb/s where is the same sim card in my htc m8 will run an average of about 25 mb/s I have tried various APN settings obviously I'm doing something wrong any suggestions will be greatly appreciated thank you in advance
You Must be on 10b or 11b radio with a non stock (Cyanogenmod or AOSP ROMS) to get LTE working on AT&T. That's the only way I've ever been able to get LTE working on my VS985 on Cricket Wireless (which is owned and operated by AT&T). If I use a Stock 5.0 or the recent stock 5.1 ROM with the newer radios (12b and up) I will only get H+.
There is no fix for this that i'm aware of other then running Cyanogenmod and 10b modem.
The Verizon LG G3 (VS985) only contains LTE Bands 4 and 13 (plus the unlockable Bands 3 and 7). Band 13 is only used by Verizon, while Band 4 is used by T-Mobile and somewhat by AT&T in major cities. Outside of those major cities, you'll be on 3G (H+).
If you plan on sticking with AT&T or an MVNO of them, you should pick up the AT&T model G3, as it has AT&T's primary LTE Band 17, and Bands 2 and 5 that they use in some markets.
I'm looking to buy a friends Verizon Lg G3 but I wanted to make sure if I could use it on my Sprint network.
So my question is, if I buy his Verzion LG G3 and get Verizon to unlock it, will I be able to use it on Sprint?
Thank you
If you could get Sprint to allow the device on their network, and that is a big if, you would not be able to use their LTE network. The Verizon G3, the VS985 supports LTE on band 3, 4, 7, 13. Sprint is using band 25, 26 and band 41. You would theoretically be able to connect to the slower 2G networks and maybe a 3G network but that's a maybe. I wouldn't expect Sprint to even consider letting you bring on a Verizon device. Good luck and update your post with the results.
Just additional info, to my understanding no Verizon phones are Sim locked any more.
I just ordered an "unlocked" G5 H830 on Ebay, after carefully checking the LTE bands on the FrequencyCheck. I know I need bands 2 and 17 because I used the LTE Discovery App to determine that my carrier (AT&T US) provides LTE on in my area. But I just realized that other sites show different LTE bands for the H830 model...
FrequencyCheck LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/30 (I hope this is right because I need Band 17)
The LG Website LTE 2/4/5/12/29/30, Roaming 1/3/7/20, and CA
Autoprime's helpful G5 thread LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B20
Can anyone confirm which of these is correct? Or verify that the H830 cannot use Band 17? Has anyone succeeded in adding LTE bands to the G5? Perhaps as described in this thread about phones with Qualcomm chipsets?
The moral of the story - check multiple websites when selecting a model with the right frequency bands for your carrier/area!
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I just ordered an "unlocked" G5 H830 on Ebay, after carefully checking the LTE bands on the FrequencyCheck. I know I need bands 2 and 17 because I used the LTE Discovery App to determine that my carrier (AT&T US) provides LTE on in my area. But I just realized that other sites show different LTE bands for the H830 model...
FrequencyCheck LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/30 (I hope this is right because I need Band 17)
The LG Website LTE 2/4/5/12/29/30, Roaming 1/3/7/20, and CA
Autoprime's helpful G5 thread LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B20
Can anyone confirm which of these is correct? Or verify that the H830 cannot use Band 17? Has anyone succeeded in adding LTE bands to the G5? Perhaps as described in this thread about phones with Qualcomm chipsets?
The moral of the story - check multiple websites when selecting a model with the right frequency bands for your carrier/area!
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I know it's been a month
For att, band 12 support is equivalent to band 17 support. If you see a phone with band 12, it'll work on att's band 17
(12 is a superset of 17. Att has deployed mfbi on most of their network so that 12 phones can connect to their 17 network
Reverse is not true- 17 phones cannot connect to 12 networks since 17 phones are missing the nonoverlapping stuff in 12
That saying , I can't help with lte bands (h830 may or may not be missing 29/30 which att uses as a third lte layer. Not that important since you can rely on band 12/17/5 as first layer, band 2/4 as second layer)