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Had the Verizon note 2 and loved it. Got stolen at work on Friday. Ordered a new note 3 as a upgrade. Spec wise no comparison. However, battery life seems a lot worse. Notification led is smaller. No auto format for stock web browsers. I hate the look of jelly bean 4.3. I don't like the white dialer pad miss my 4.2 jelly bean. I have 11 days left if I want to return it and get another phone. Note 3 is stock no root yet. Im comparing this to my stock note 2 before I rooted it and added greenify, root explorer, etc. Note 2 also seemed to have a way better battery management system compared to the note 3 stock. Granted the bigger screen, faster quad core and higher full hd resolution on the note 3 is probably the reason. I do have the processes limited to 4 and still have bad battery life on the note 3. Oh and last but definitely not least, the speaker sucks compared to the note 2. Thanks for any input guys. For me this is a first where I might actually want to go backwards in technology rather than forward. Question is, anyone go from the note 2 to the note 3 and wish they had gone back to the note 2?
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Had the Verizon note 2 and loved it. Got stolen at work on Friday. Ordered a new note 3 as a upgrade. Spec wise no comparison. However, battery life seems a lot worse. Notification led is smaller. No auto format for stock web browsers. I hate the look of jelly bean 4.3. I don't like the white dialer pad miss my 4.2 jelly bean. I have 11 days left if I want to return it and get another phone. Note 3 is stock no root yet. Im comparing this to my stock note 2 before I rooted it and added greenify, root explorer, etc. Note 2 also seemed to have a way better battery management system compared to the note 3 stock. Granted the bigger screen, faster quad core and higher full hd resolution on the note 3 is probably the reason. I do have the processes limited to 4 and still have bad battery life on the note 3. Oh and last but definitely not least, the speaker sucks compared to the note 2. Thanks for any input guys. For me this is a first where I might actually want to go backwards in technology rather than forward. Question is, anyone go from the note 2 to the note 3 and wish they had gone back to the note 2?
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Dude this is a waste of time discussing this.... The note 3 trumps the note 2 in every way other than the speaker.....
Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466108
I currently have, and love, a Note 2. Running Synergy ROM on Sprint
But, I'm jealous of those who have the Note 3 and have updated to 4.3 and even 4.4. My wife said I could use her upgrade now to get the 3 and she'll use mine in July to get her new phone.
I'm really tempted but am wondering if I should wait for the Note 4, whenever that will be.
Please, could you steer me a bit?
Thanks
won't it be 2 years for the note 4? what kind of cycle is samsung on I thought S then N they just did the Note 3 so next up is the S5 then after that the Note 4
The Note 2 has superior battery life to the Note 3 and the camera is better in the Note 2 for stills (a lot better) but the video in the Note 3 is amazing (4k is truly amazing 8MP frames !!!)
I also really love the 1080p panel! man do I love this panel. I put my Note 2 on boost now that I have my Note 3 on my sprint account.
I don't agree with the note 2 having better battery life or camera. The N4 will probably be out in ten months or so. Long time to wait. I would say it's worth getting now. Whether you find one off contract or through using an upgrade.
well my note 2 will go 25-30 hours medium usage on stock battery while my note 3 can't go 12 hours with medium usage. I am about to wipe the device to see if maybe something is hinky but its been like this since day 1.
the note 3 camera sucks balls. if you don't think so you don't have a note 2 or don't use the camera much.
noisier pictures. nearly USELESS in low light and absolutely rubbish dynamic range compared to the Note 2. the difference really is dramatic. I will have to take the time to post some sample images. I use the camera in both A LOT and the note 3 camera was a HUGE let down.
now for video its amazing. but not for stills.
10 months. nice my upgrade will be ready by then. I hope the iphone 6 comes out just after the Note 4 and really kicks some ass so I can get some free Note 4's
I've already had the s3, note 2 and currently have a s4 and note 3 and have taken a few thousand pictures total in combination. I am more than happy with the successors to the previous models.
S3 and n2 are equal photographically. I take several hundred pictures "a week" most of the time. I am not joking when I say I have probably taken 6 or 7 thousand pictures with my note 2 and that is being conservative.
Get a note 2 use a custom rom with note 3 features and wait for the note 4 saves you a few hundred
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He already has a note 2 and is running a custom rom. Back on topic, go for the n3.
It depends on why you want the note 3.
For me the upgrade was desirable for these reasons
Larger screen
1080p panel
Dramatically improved front facing camera
4k video recording
Ir blaster
A minor nice feature is improved spen
Otherwise the n2 can do pretty much everything the note 3 can do.
The note 2 is about to get 4.3 so thats a non isssue
If you really dont need any of the above thinfs you are probably better off waiting for the n4.
If you really want the n3 you might want to consider the iphone 5s. Its cheaper than the n3 (not always) and you can trade it on cl for a note 3 pretty easily. Save some cash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT6RkJd5LXw
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the info
Q: Does the Note 3 offer a better Bluetooth experience or are they basically the same?
Q: I haven't been in the ROM forums (at least the new ROMS, I check Synergy daily with no updates) for awhile. I'd love to try a new one but have been hesitant to ask because every "Which ROM is best" thread is closed pretty fast.
I have no performance issues with Synergy but would love a ROM that's a little more updated and as stable. My Note 2 is Sprint
Would you suggest a ROM?
The Note 3 is a beast of a phone, with MUCH better camera(13 mp vs8), 3 GB of RAM, and quad Snapdragon processor. All of the hardware is faster, with a much lower power consumption. HOWEVER, if you are planning on rooting, forget it. Just look through the forums at all of the problems people have had, as well as the total lack of development. Having said that, many of the reasons to root(other than cosmetics) are gone.If 24-36 hours of battery aren't enough, get a 0Lemon 10k Mah battery. KitKat will be coming probably in February, which will bring further battery, and features. The Note 4 won't be out til Sept at the earliest, so those are the honest nuts and bolts answers. If you must have a custom ROM, and are happy with your 2, keep it, with the caveat that Samsung is releasing locked bootloaders with their updates, which may hose your root; If you want a much better phone/camera/battery, and realize that rooting will more than likely involve you in a nightmare of warranty/and/or bricked phone, go for the 3. It took a while for me to get over not having a custom ROM, after soft bricking/bricking 2 Note 3's(thank goodness i am with Sprint) But I am very happy with my 3. The biggest consideration is if you are in a market that Sprint is rolling out Spark in, hold out for a tri-band phone. Right now, the only decent phone that is tri-band is the LG G2. Hope that helps.....
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well my note 2 will go 25-30 hours medium usage on stock battery while my note 3 can't go 12 hours with medium usage. I am about to wipe the device to see if maybe something is hinky but its been like this since day 1.
the note 3 camera sucks balls. if you don't think so you don't have a note 2 or don't use the camera much.
noisier pictures. nearly USELESS in low light and absolutely rubbish dynamic range compared to the Note 2. the difference really is dramatic. I will have to take the time to post some sample images. I use the camera in both A LOT and the note 3 camera was a HUGE let down.
now for video its amazing. but not for stills.
10 months. nice my upgrade will be ready by then. I hope the iphone 6 comes out just after the Note 4 and really kicks some ass so I can get some free Note 4's
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Just 12 hours on medium usage? Good idea trying the wipe. If that doesn't fix it take it and get it replaced (even if you're knox is tripped. Sometimes they don't even check). Note 3 has great battery life. On a 12 hour day I use about 50-60% with average use. Good luck!
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I went for the note 3 from the note 2. It was one of the best upgrades I ever got. Definitely an improvement over the note 2. You won't regret one second of it.
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I went for the note 3 from the note 2. It was one of the best upgrades I ever got. Definitely an improvement over the note 2. You won't regret one second of it.
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Are u satisfied with stock? It sounds like there's really not much you can't do and rooting may not be necessary.
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Are u satisfied with stock? It sounds like there's really not much you can't do and rooting may not be necessary.
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yes. I actually kept my note 2 stock as well and it was one of the first phones I've ever done so it even though there were a few features that were missing. The note 3 has everything I could ever want feature wise and I don't for see myself rooting anytime in the future.
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I see a lot of you guys are keeping your note 3 stock and are not rooting them. My question is this, is there really that many problems trying to root this device? And besides custom roms/themes, why isnt anyone interested in the wifi tether? This feature is the main reason why I root all my phones, so I can have free mobile hotspot access. Is it still possible to have this feature or did sprint do away with it?
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I see a lot of you guys are keeping your note 3 stock and are not rooting them. My question is this, is there really that many problems trying to root this device? And besides custom roms/themes, why isnt anyone interested in the wifi tether? This feature is the main reason why I root all my phones, so I can have free mobile hotspot access. Is it still possible to have this feature or did sprint do away with it?
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I rooted, installed TWRP and flashed a ROM and took all of 30 minutes. I waited about 2 months before I rooted mine hoping there would be a work around to not trip Knox but one day I asked myself "Have I ever sent any phone back to the manufacturer?" No I haven't. I have the Sprint asurion insurance so F*** Knox! I am now asking myself why did I even wait 2 months I should of did this day one. I've only rooted HTC phones and Samsung phones and this phone is very easy to root. I used Qbking77's videos, he and them are awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymbVHR3F_O8&feature=youtube_gdata_player <--To Root
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssXhvflSTUM&feature=youtube_gdata_player <--Get get TWRP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbUlQznvQms&feature=youtube_gdata_player <--Hacked WiFi tether
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Xbmoyx you have done it again.. I already told you your my new best friend. But now you exceeded that and became, my super duper best friend. Lol
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Xbmoyx you have done it again.. I already told you your my new best friend. But now you exceeded that and became, my super duper best friend. Lol
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Haha! Just make sure you like his videos after you do the deed and maybe leave a comment thanking him.
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I'm thinking about upgrading, having been on the Note 2 for 3 years. I'm running Alliance Rom 32 (4.4.2) and it runs well so maybe I should just keep it. I would get the Note 4 but I use root for Viper4Android, Adfree and to be able to turn off/remove background "bloat" apps. Maybe the Note 4 is fast enough to overcome the lag background apps can cause?
I'm on a VZW family plan so tethering isn't an issue.
I use the Pen once in a while for note taking but could live without it.
What are rooted Galaxy Note 2 users moving to?
Thanks,
I've been on a rooted Note 2 for 3 years also. I'm stuck since I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan. For me it's all about the camera. I use my phone to document my kids growing up. That being said the best camera on an Android device right now is in the galaxy S6 but the lack of removable battery and storage kinda blows so I would probably get the Note 4 at this point even though I'm kinda over the phablet thing. A buddy at work has the Note 4 edge and that thing is nice. Also you may want to consider the next iPhone. I hate to say it but everything is designed to work with it.
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@Dugall12 - thanks for your thoughts. You post confirms my suspicion that perhaps my Note 2 running Alliance ROM 32 is about as good as it gets right now. Like you I've considered a 5 inch screen phone. We have an extra Galaxy S4. I just rooted it to stang5litre debloated Lollipop 5.01 OC1. I used it for a few days and thought performance and battery power were quite good. I then gave it to my college age son to try and he says its overheating. I think he's running some third party app that causing the issue. Another option is we have an available VZW upgrade and could get an S5 for $50 through Amazon.
I can't believe Samsung turned the next Galaxy S into an iPhone clone. I have done a few screen repairs for friends iPhone 6's and had the opportunity to use those phones for a few hours just to see what they're like. I'm not impressed. I find an Android running Nova Prime to be more intuitive and easy to use. I don't get the attraction of a sleek and beautiful phone - they need to be in a bumper case - at that point they all look the same. For those who want to argue that - every screen repair I do is for phones used without a case.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi Max 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi Max 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
According to me, it is one of the best phones in this price range. Overall performance is very much satisfactory
My Mi Max 2 arrived two days ago, i'm really really happy, battery lasts two days with strong use, and everything is smooth. It was not so easy to go through the unlock procedure but now i'm done.
Me to, very happy so far. Coming from Samsung Note4, and that seems to be the end of Samsung phones for me!
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Me to, very happy so far. Coming from Samsung Note4, and that seems to be the end of Samsung phones for me!
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How does it compare to your old note 4? I have a note 2 that is just about completely dead and hope for a sizeable jump - my only real worry is camera quality.
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Me to, very happy so far. Coming from Samsung Note4, and that seems to be the end of Samsung phones for me!
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Me too, i want to know as my note 4 is failing and would like to upgrade
I've a Note 3 running Resurrection rom. Just got this last Friday and love the bigger screen, I remember getting the note 1 and nobody could believe the size, and now the note 3 is just about average, lol. Anyways I'll be missing the stylus and removable battery, but other than that it seems good. Just waiting for the 72 hrs to pass so that I can root and unlock the thing. For less than half the price of a Note 8 and the same price here as a second-hand several year old note 4 I don't think you can do wrong.
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I've a Note 3 running Resurrection rom. Just got this last Friday and love the bigger screen, I remember getting the note 1 and nobody could believe the size, and now the note 3 is just about average, lol. Anyways I'll be missing the stylus and removable battery, but other than that it seems good. Just waiting for the 72 hrs to pass so that I can root and unlock the thing. For less than half the price of a Note 8 and the same price here as a second-hand several year old note 4 I don't think you can do wrong.
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Buddy, How is the screen quality conpared to the note 3?
It's amoled vs lcd / 380dpi vs 344dpi. Im really considering this one or the LG V20?
Is it too big for pockets?
Screen seems ok to me, it's not as vivid but wil do the job browsing and reading pdfs which is my main use. I've thousands of photos too and they seem ok. Sizewise it's longer and sticks out a little bit from my pockets but not enough to bother me.
I am in love with this device, But bit disappointing with MIUI which uses more ram. Waiting for stable custom rom.:fingers-crossed:
I have a Redmi Note 3. I'm looking for a larger phone. My mom wants to take my Redmi once I get a new phone.
My only concern with this phone is custom ROM support as I don't like using MIUI. Are the chances this will be supported by LineageOS officialy sometime soon? (Mi Max 1 seems to have great custom ROM support). If yes, I'll be buying this phone right away.
Also, I'm confused. Some pages mention this phone has NFC and some don't. Does it have NFC. Doesn't affect my descision to buy this phone but still.
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How does it compare to your old note 4? I have a note 2 that is just about completely dead and hope for a sizeable jump - my only real worry is camera quality.
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Me too, i want to know as my note 4 is failing and would like to upgrade
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Yes, only thing I'm missing is the picture quality from Samsung, even though it was very much slower to focus, noticed specially when scanning bar codes. In very dark envioment it can be seen that it has ips screen and not amoled. But it cost 1/5 of a new Samsung Note, so i don't care. Specially since my Note4 failed with the "mmc_failed" error after 2 years, and Samsung wont emit it's a production failure.
Camera Quality
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How does it compare to your old note 4? I have a note 2 that is just about completely dead and hope for a sizeable jump - my only real worry is camera quality.
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now the quality of mi max 2 is better than mi max 1
i have both Mi Max 1 and 2
Decent but the lack of multi color LED notification is a big downer.
Battery was awesome
but a little unconformtable when heat
10 -- except for the battery ...
I got the phone cheap $229 4/64 (it was 199 yesterday at Gearbest). TOTAL LOVE. Perfect build quality. Fast. Gets a great signal on AT&T (the only signal in my neighborhood). Better than my Samsung despite AT&T's claims it would barely work at all. Yes, it says H+ on the display instead of 4g, but I suspect I was getting H+ already, marketed as 4g, which is what they do in the states.
What's more, I'm getting Volte now with AT&T prepaid -- prepaid customers don't get Volte! (Not that it's much use with this carrier).
In call volume is fine and the speaker quality is great. It wasn't loaded with crapware and unrooted, I was able to disable some system apps (some apps, like the calculator, are terrific).
Regarding the battery: I got a lemon. It's lasting a full day, maybe a day and a half -- but I'm a light user! No gaming, not even online much. I don't run anything except for downloaded audiobooks. But it goes to show you how much I love the phone that I wouldn't even consider sending it back for warranty service. All the way to China? I'd be without it for days, maybe weeks!
It's not perfect. I can't believe TV out is missing -- no way to connect to a monitor with OTG, no matter how many adaptors you use, I'm told. And Xiaomi's firmware prevents you from doing full backups or downloading nonessential updates unless you're on wifi. They claim you can toggle this, but they're sneaky buggers ... you toggle, it says downloading, but when you look for the completed file it says 'scheduled'. I *****ed and moaned in the forum, but hundreds have cried before me, to no avail.
There are a few odd little paternalistic issues with the OS -- not that ATT and Samsung don't dictate what I can do with my device and service -- they're a thousand times worse -- but their preferred forms of control are motivated by profit, not concern for what's 'good' for me. What do they care if I guzzle data?
On the other hand, Xiaomi employees actually monitor the forums. After the major software update, they solicited bug reports and issued fixes for them in a couple of days -- even for the minor bugs.
On a 1 to 10 scale, the phone is a 20, and I'm thrilled to learn they have a wide range of electronics to check out because -- so long Samsung, you suckered this consumer for the last time.
I do love Xiaomi Mi Max 2 except one thing. I can't unlock bootloader on MIUI 9 Global Stable, I get the error 86006 (with some Chinese letters). I know that it can be fixed by flashing on developper rom but I would like to get it fixed without flashing the device.
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I do love Xiaomi Mi Max 2 except one thing. I can't unlock bootloader on MIUI 9 Global Stable, I get the error 86006 (with some Chinese letters). I know that it can be fixed by flashing on developper rom but I would like to get it fixed without flashing the device.
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Yep, I had the same problem. I don't understand why Xiaomi does this.
I ended up giving in and installed a fresh dev ROM and then it worked perfectly.
Loving mine in Canada. I am a heavy user minus gaming(unless you count Scrabble) and I get 2 full days on a charge consistently. I stream sports and movies onto it, lots of music and other normal surfing/social media stuff and it doesn't get hot and the battery just keeps on going. It's early but so far I would definitely recommend the phone and the company. Excellent build quality and attention to detail. This phone was made with me in mind
Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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I went with a SM-N950N (Korean Note 8) to have root
Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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I had a N920T T-Mobile USA Note 5, the last Exynos Samsung for the US. Once I heard S7 had locked bootloaders, I knew I would have to buy International/Exynos from going forward. Sucks having to do so initially but more than well worth it for me, couldn't be happier.
With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
I went from Note 3 to Note 7, back to a used Note 4, and now the Note 8 for the last 6 months. I'm not rooted and I really don't miss root for much. Battery life is pretty amazing on the Note 8. I like Samsung UI, so with the Note 3 & 4 I always stuck with touchwiz roms. It's nice having a more current version of Android with the Samsung Experience. The Note 8's not perfect, but I definitely don't miss the Note 4.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back??. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back?. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
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I think OP means they have broken fingers so thinner S-Pen is harder and virtually impossible to use
I upgrade from my N910C to a N950N due to the fact that my N910C was starting to drop LTE signals randomly. I have to say I am loving my N950N. It is probably my best purchase of the year. I thought that I would hate not havinv physical buttons. But I quickly gotten use to having soft buttons. Not having a removable battery is my main grip with the latest Samsung devices. But I can easily get 2 days battery life out of my N950N with moderate use. I haven't notice any performance issues since the upgrade to Oreo. Performance has been butterly smoothy. I love the iris scanner, it even works in direct sunlight. The placement of the fingerprint scanner is not as bad as I thought it would be.
Seriously 4 S-pens? man the 2nd pen break must have made u smarter. I have used all the Notes except 2 & 7(they stopped the launch in India)
Never broken a pen, a tip damaged due to dropping it, but never broken, and even on the Note 5, never inserted it the wrong way. And I am a very prolific user of the S-Pen.
The battery isnt so bad, ofcourse would appreciate better life, but thats a not a deal breaker. And also the physical buttons, never really missed them, since the Tab series really lost them in 2012.
I would say that Note 8 Exynos rooted and Dr.Ketan Rom+Pro Tweaks is the optimal combo imo. Everything is optimized, battery is great, no bloatware..... etc etc etc
I too have made the leap from a N910a to the note 8. Being that I'm coming from the notorious "you'll never get root on our phone, EVER" from AT&T having root PERIOD was a game changer. With that said, I do miss the IR blaster although alot of the time I'd forget it was there lol. I had my note 4 for nearly 3 years - longest I've ever had a phone and not had something happen i.e. dropping it.
So root was a HUGE deal for me to have, so I may be a bit biased in that area but as others have touched on, for real how did you manage to break not 1, not 2, or 3 but FOUR spens?! If it were 1 I'd say contact them for possibly poor workmanship, no offense but it seems like it's on the user end in this instance. As far as features the Note 8 has root aside, waterproof (or water RESISTANT as it technically really is lol) Another game changer. For over a year I had no working speaker due to having just moving into new apt and first night using it as Hotspot I had no idea sprinklers came on and shat water onto my rear patio. My own fault, but nonetheless very VERY comforting knowing if I ever screwed up in that area, it wouldn't be an issue. That alone with all our own user end mishaps is arguably a MUST HAVE.
The 80 pct limit isn't really that bad, if you must charge it to 100 pct there is always the download mode workaround, but if we are taking straight user friendliness,I could see it being a thing to do it everytime one charged. Raw power over the note 4 is and has to be something that anyone would notice immediately. I have a gear vr and while the note 4 fit, it always was outperformed by my note 8 when I tested them back to back.
I DO miss the removable battery (price to pay for water resistance I suppose) and am not looking forward to when it starts to show signs of aging and needs replaced. There are options I've found that help, like a portable power bank. Although with my use I really don't see much of a difference between when I was stock compared to now, so that wasn't and isn't anything I ever complain about knowing up front that was the price of admission if I wanted root. I still have my note 4 but honestly it just sits along side of my other devices of yesteryear collecting dust.
Blob Blobbed said:
Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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time to sell it and opt for another device
winol said:
If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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So you can root the Note 8? (US version or only international vesion?) and rooting limits battery to 80% only?
You can root both models, but with snapdragons, the batt only charges up to 80%, I read about this here XDA, I dont know if there is some patch or workaround for it, as I have an stock Exynos 950F 128GB