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O.k...so now that we have nand, does that mean we can now get updates from android? before,we couldn't because it would reboot the phone back into windows. but now, the Magldr basically makes our HD2 a 'native' android phone since it boots directly into android. just curious..
I don't think so, since the only phones that will get updates directly from Google are the Nexus one and Nexus S.
While the rest of the Smartphones available on the market such as HTC Evo, Samsung Galaxy S, Motorola Droid, etc... will get their updates from their manufactures which will pass them through carries that subsidize those phones.
Android on HD2 will keep getting it's updates through the working of our awesome Developers , and tbh with you I like it this way since we don't have to keep waiting 6+ months for the official updates from those lazy Manufactures/Carriers.
Besides which, do you really want an Android ROM that has incompatible drivers for most of your phone functions? Its taken a while, and a lot of work on behalf of the chefs, to refine the builds and ROMs to make them compatible with the HD2, camera app on all desire hd builds for example took a long while . And we STILL don't have a fully working build for Gingerbread...
Time will deliver it with the sweat of the chefs...
I saw online that someone is working towards getting honeycomb to the Streak.
my question is what will happens with the phone functionality, can honeycomb handle calls and contacts and all that since is for tablets only
thanks in advance
Are you really sure that streak will get the update?????
at least custom port
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/dell-streak-gets-honeycomb-sdk-port-finally-looks-like-a-real-t/
Look in this same forum for a thread by DJ_Steve titled "hum dee ho hum me bored" or something like that.
He is the developer working on this. He is the guy who has made the previous custom ROMs for the Streak (StreakDroid.com v1.7.0 currently), and he has done tremendous work so far. I would imagine that when he gets it working, it will have to include phone call features for it to even be considered successful. I use my Streak as my primary device, so it would have to have the phone for me to consider using it at all.
However, that being said, it is not an "official" update of any kind. This is something he does in his spare time and he has been successful so far. He has already pulled some of the info out of the Streak 7" to improve his Streak ROM so far (lcd density over 200, for instance), and the Streak 7" would be a good candidate for Honeycomb (dual-core processor, etc). Therefore, I would assume that as Honeycomb becomes more availible, it will eventually get ported by DJ_Steve to the Streak 5, using all the good features of Honeycomb while still having phone features.
PS: Honeycomb is not EXCLUSIVELY for tablets, but it was designed with a focus on tablet usability. Meaning, it should work on phones just fine.
Locking this thread and moving to Q&A as Steve has a thread open on Honeycomb
Our Fascinate is powerful and has a big advantage over all other phones out on the market right now
thanks to its hummingbird processor. The Facinate can get a Windows 7.5, 7.8 and 8 ROM even if it
is closed source now, unofficial builds of WP 7.8 have been coming out for phones like the old HTC HD2.
So the question of weither the ROM can be made is no longer a question, iOS is another story but again is
possible if someone is willing to rip apart an old 3GS or 4 to get the OS from within the SoC somehow
and compile it.
Most likely the system would have to come from an iPhone 4 seeing at the processor within
the 4th is almost the same as our Facinate (with a little of Apple's modification for "performace purposes")
but none the less could some how be undone or the drivers could be rewritten with a little time and patience.
The point is that the Fascinate still has potential and has a lot in common with phones outside of the
Android ecosystem which could help devs port other OS' to the Fascinate, as for me I have already
picked up a book on C++ and Java so hopefully I will be able to do something to help sooner or later.
(If anyone could help me learn this stuff, I would appreate it)
My Dell Venue 3830 out performs newer versions of the same tablet. I love it. I have tried newer versions of the tablet, and have returned them favoring this 3830.
Would it be smart to start a bounty for someone to develop a lollipop based ROM for it?
Who else would be interested?
How does one go about starting a bounty?
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 received Lollipop June 2015
I use the same Dell Venue 3830. The spec of our tablet is almost equals with Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 (Atom Z2580 2Ghz, 2GB RAM). Asus just announce upgrade for Zenphone 5-6. So we could expect XDA developers could port it to our Dell.
I certainly hope so, I love this little tablet. Quick, snappy, and beautiful.
Have you tried the ART runtime ? I always failed enabling it. Stuck in boot logo then restart to Dalvik
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Sure have. it has worked for me, although I really see no difference...
has anyone managed to get ANY custom rom installed for a Venue 7 .. preferably 3741...
I am serious about a bounty. I love the 3840, which is the best tablet I have gotten from them. Runs smooth and fast as butter. I will set up a Paypal and donate it ALL to anyone who can create a 90% working ROM.
count me in
y0himba said:
I am serious about a bounty. I love the 3840, which is the best tablet I have gotten from them. Runs smooth and fast as butter. I will set up a Paypal and donate it ALL to anyone who can create a 90% working ROM.
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im in.... $20 from me but like y0himba said it needs to be at least 90% working, 3G, wifi, Ext SD most of the bells & whistles.... doesnt have to be lollipop but of course that would be preferred...
if anyone can get CM 10 or 11 or AOKP to work i would be very happy
I meant the 3830 LOL. I will drop $20 or more on a ROM for this puppy. 4.4.4 at least, CM, Lollipop would be GREAT.
Would anyone be kind enough to add on 3840 for this CM? I'd literally appreciate it so damn much, thanks!
I hope you succeed, because seems that dell already forgot the 3830 tablet. I would like to offer my help but my knowledge about this stuff is pretty basic. It will be great if you were able to release android lollipop for this tablet.
I have absolutely no knowledge of even where to begin. However, I do have money to contribute to a person who can make a working complete, working ROM for the tablet.
Like it was said above, this was a case of bait and switch. This was the first version of the tablet, and had the best hardware. It was sold at a loss for a while, then boom "Upgrade", which had worse hardware and ran like ****e. I have a 3840, and no one in the family will use it. The damn thing is too slow even to load a Kindle book right after it had been factory reset.
Building a ROM for this will net the ROM builder a bit of cash and do a great service for the community.
not feeling any love, looks like no one cares about our poor pathetic tablets...
DELL really sucks doing this.... its very much like an Apple scam ... mine is the 3741 which supposedly has 8gb but after the android system with system apps and all you have around 3.5gb free.
then you cant even move apps to EXT-SD so good luck installing many large apps.
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not feeling any love, looks like no one cares about our poor pathetic tablets...
DELL really sucks doing this.... its very much like an Apple scam ... mine is the 3741 which supposedly has 8gb but after the android system with system apps and all you have around 3.5gb free.
then you cant even move apps to EXT-SD so good luck installing many large apps.
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This is common for all tablets, no tablet or any android devices has the listed amount of space free.
16GB 32GB and so on don't have that much space free either.
As far as bounty for rom, posting here isn't going to get much exposure, unlikely this thread will even be seen by anyone that builds roms.
If there is enough people willing to fund this project, and buy a developer one of these tablets, then perhaps you can get a rom.
If it ever gets to that point, find a developer and ask him, how much would it take to get a custom rom.
Right now I can only think of one developer that is currently producing x86 cm12 roms. @nels83.
Seeing he is already making x86 cm12 roms for 3 x86 devices, he could add more if he had those devices.
@nels83 would be the person to contact once enough money is raised to buy him a tablet, or if someone has a spare tablet to give him.
@nels83 cm12 thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/development-10/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3100789
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What would be great is in the wait for a decent custom ROM such as Cyanogen or Paranoid, maybe someone out there could throw together a cleaned up, barebones custom ROM based off the current stock ROM but with all of the crapware thrown out and maybe some changes to improve the overall performance. This would be good for both 3830 and 3840 users and hopefully will make the wait for a CM or Paranoid (if it ever comes) a little shorter as atleast our tablets will run, decently.
The 3840 is in desperate need of a custom ROM. I see 3830 users also wanting it but to be honest, I'm sure they can stick it out with their 2GB of RAM. The 3840 is suffering dearly with only 1gig and is total hell running stock Android - so if there's a dev out there, priorities to the 3840 please. I've heard that the 3830 has decent performance.
I doubt you will ever seen a custom ROM for 3840.
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Please make your own thread for the 3840, this is a bounty thread for the 3830 only. There has to be a dev who is will to make a bit of money to create a working ROM.
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Please make your own thread for the 3840, this is a bounty thread for the 3830 only. There has to be a dev who is will to make a bit of money to create a working ROM.
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@nels83 is probably the only dev that could, also the 3830 kernel source has finally been released, it was a big set back waiting over a year for kernel source.
I used the kernel source to build myself a custom kernel and when time allows I will start back working on my asop rom for my 3830. I stopped working on it due to no source code.
My ROM will only be for my personal use, as I have no desire to continuously update a rom.
@nels83 is the best choice for building a community ROM, if he chooses to.
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@nels83 is probably the only dev that could, also the 3830 kernel source has finally been released, it was a big set back waiting over a year for kernel source.
I used the kernel source to build myself a custom kernel and when time allows I will start back working on my asop rom for my 3830. I stopped working on it due to no source code.
My ROM will only be for my personal use, as I have no desire to continuously update a rom.
@nels83 is the best choice for building a community ROM, if he chooses to.
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Who said you have to continuously update it? As long as most of the functions work to a decent standard and it is a solid ROM, then I am sure the community will be more than happy with it.
Also, 3840 users: http://forum.xda-developers.com/dell-venue/development/v8-3840-lollipop-rom-bounty-t3185076
I'm guessing it is out of the equation to be able to port a ROM from the venue 10 tree? Maybe a slimmed down version of their lollipop? I guess that maybe is aiming too high but I'm not sure.
Hey there,
see I know this is future talk, but is the Dell Tablet - which has amazing specs if you ask me - ever going to see the light of custom roms, maybe even Android M? Any idea? Honestly, I have no idea why this tablet is no big seller.
Regards
IlluX
Intel doesn't seem to attract devs for some reason. Does your 7840 have a locked bootloader?
fraser.dk said:
Intel doesn't seem to attract devs for some reason. Does your 7840 have a locked bootloader?
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The latest 5.1.0 update for the 7840 has an unlockable bootloader.
The Asus ZenFone 2 (Same Intel Z3580 as the Dell 7840) has TWRP and alpha builds of CyanogenMod.
Looks like the days of no-devs-for-Intel are coming to an end (maybe... I hope).
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The latest 5.1.0 update for the 7840 has an unlockable bootloader.
The Asus ZenFone 2 (Same Intel Z3580 as the Dell 7840) has TWRP and alpha builds of CyanogenMod.
Looks like the days of no-devs-for-Intel are coming to an end (maybe... I hope).
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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Yeah, for how nice looking it is, I really can't see why it wasn't more popular except because Dell did basically zero marketing for it. With a few well-timed ads and some product placement this thing could have been the new popular tablet.
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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After owning a n9, and messing with both the tab pro and the tab s and the shield, I don't think the v8 is that over priced. It's the best Android tablet on the market right now imo. The only downside is development and I can live with that because my v8 is purely for media consumption. If dell had a better reputation for updating and supporting their Android devices I think it would be more popular, a starting price of about $300 wouldn't hurt either.
So far I'm really impressed with this v8 and Dell's software support.
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Yeah, for how nice looking it is, I really can't see why it wasn't more popular except because Dell did basically zero marketing for it. With a few well-timed ads and some product placement this thing could have been the new popular tablet.
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The Dell tablet is visible here if I recall correctly
https://youtu.be/fKOK-DzrQQ8
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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I agree, Intel and Dell need to be more forth coming if they ever plan on getting a device that devs will like to work with, Locked bootloaders, releasing old out of date tablets, then taking 6 months to update them, just isn't what most devs are looking for.
dell needs to stop dragging their feet and start popping out updates, intel needs to stop focusing on locking stuff down.
I doubt the 7840 will get much development, perhaps the next version dell releases, provided they release a current OS with the tablet, and quickly release the source code, and intel doesn't try to lock it down.
Price also plays a important factor, not many devs are willing to pay $400 for a kitkat device when other companies are releasing lollipop, dell needs to stop releasing out of date devices, then taking 6 months to update them.
I think had the tablet came out with lollipop priced around $200-$250 source code released, bootloader ready to be unlocked this tablet would have taken off, but it was over priced, came with kitkat, and locked down with no source code. Over time it was updated and so on by that time devs already got other devices.
The problem is that until the Zenfone2 came out no 3rd party was really actively working on porting to Intel, it wasn't until the past few months until cm even started porting for the nexus player.
There are a few groups now starting to port cm to a couple Intel devices but the problem is with a community so small the benefit is only for a few.
Having to rebase an existing device tree is alot of work so I'm hoping to consolidate the few active projects there are into a common core device tree with the hope that it will make it easier to port to new devices.