How much is it available after uninstalling bloatware and updating essentials apps (like youtube, chrome ,etc)?
3.14 GB almost all unnecessary apps removed ,from 3.01 GB at stock condition. I don't see how you can uninstall Google Chrome, youtube etc. without root.
can you post an list or screenshot with apps uninstalled or remaining apps in your phone, I managed to get max 2,4 GB free space
grigtm said:
can you post an list or screenshot with apps uninstalled or remaining apps in your phone, I managed to get max 2,4 GB free space
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http://imgur.com/a/g55vA only 2,4 GB? is you fimware .167? Your phone maybe want to update your apps, stop him updates take lot of space.
Without root is about 2.4GB, but with root i had 3.4GB free. Do root, you can without unlocked bootloader, and you can have much space.
hello
I have root, but kept some apps you deleted, I am using different apps than you,
and yes I updated apps, it is important to keep apps updated,
now it is like "let it be", my only bad feeling is that I didn't red too much about this storage concern, but using apps2sd (has an inbuilt sd card partition) managed to keep internal memory at 2 GB free with all apps installed and some of them have about 300 - 500 MB data
just waiting for a swap script that is working and after reboot
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and crap, after a few restarts, apps2sd is messing up the link scripts and loosing apps, different apps every restart, not so reliable app
hello,
finally got it, folder mount is the only app that is working
grigtm said:
hello
I have root, but kept some apps you deleted, I am using different apps than you,
and yes I updated apps, it is important to keep apps updated,
now it is like "let it be", my only bad feeling is that I didn't red too much about this storage concern, but using apps2sd (has an inbuilt sd card partition) managed to keep internal memory at 2 GB free with all apps installed and some of them have about 300 - 500 MB data
just waiting for a swap script that is working and after reboot
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and crap, after a few restarts, apps2sd is messing up the link scripts and loosing apps, different apps every restart, not so reliable app
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Hey, which app are you using for removing bloatware ? I have tried both system app remover and root app deleter and apps keep reappearing after i uninstall them. Titanium backup is the only one that seems to be working for me.
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Hitman951 said:
Hey, which app are you using for removing bloatware ? I have tried both system app remover and root app deleter and apps keep reappearing after i uninstall them. Titanium backup is the only one that seems to be working for me.
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I use also Titanium, but if you want to move OBB files on extSD you need to use foldermount, link2sd and app2sd doesn't move obb files
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[Q] Seeking a single-click, multiple .apk installer, without "OK" confirmation breaks
Good afternoon,
Seeking the following:
An app which I can show my backed-up apks to all sitting on the SD card (after a new ROM flash for example), and to which I can then say, "Okay, install all these without asking me for any further confirmation." I don't want to sit here for the next two hours while I click OK for 150 apps to install (i.e. with Astro, Titanium Backup, or Easy Installer)
The only quasi solution to this I know of atm is Android Injector, which you operate from the PC, and transfer apks directly to your phone. I don't want that. I want to leave the PC out it completely, and find a solution from the phone side of things, utilizing the SD card, as stated.
All responses welcome and highly appreciated.
TL;DR - seeking an app that, with one click and one click only, will restore 100+ .apks without asking for confirmation between each one, which are stored on the SD card.
Thx.
To do this you need root I believe as there's no other way to bypass the install screen(as that would bypassing security and allowing a malicious app to install stuff freely)
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fjell_strom said:
Good afternoon,
Seeking the following:
An app which I can show my backed-up apks to all sitting on the SD card (after a new ROM flash for example), and to which I can then say, "Okay, install all these without asking me for any further confirmation." I don't want to sit here for the next two hours while I click OK for 150 apps to install (i.e. with Astro, Titanium Backup, or Easy Installer)
The only quasi solution to this I know of atm is Android Injector, which you operate from the PC, and transfer apks directly to your phone. I don't want that. I want to leave the PC out it completely, and find a solution from the phone side of things, utilizing the SD card, as stated.
All responses welcome and highly appreciated.
TL;DR - seeking an app that, with one click and one click only, will restore 100+ .apks without asking for confirmation between each one, which are stored on the SD card.
Thx.
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Titainium back up pro does this.
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zelendel said:
Titainium back up pro does this.
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Thx man - bought it. Just out of curiosity: any other options, perhaps cost-free?
fjell_strom said:
Thx man - bought it. Just out of curiosity: any other options, perhaps cost-free?
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Not that i know of. This has been the one I have always used myself and has worked without fail so never really looked.
Yeah, does a great job not just getting the apps back into place but with data as well, if desired. Great option. Takes about the same amount of time as with Android Injector (USB from PC) fwiw.
i have many apps apks on sd card location mnt/external_sd/myapps , and pro version of titanium backup. how do i get titanium to see all these apps so i can install them at once. or do i have to put them in the titanium backup folder. (they might not all fit, because titanium backup folder in on internal sd, not external)
This might help, requires ADB on a PC though. It's free. My suggestion is to use Titanium Backup Pro though, it really is a fantastic app. This is a good workaround though.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-in...ly-on-android-phones-with-mass-apk-installer/
I've always used My Backup Pro, it gives you a list of all the apps in the back up so you can tick the ones you want or just select-all and it runs through them in o e operation. Does apk and data but needs root.
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One Click Installer [Root]
Hi, ive developed a new app that does exactly what you are looking for.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sharon.oneclickinstaller
All apps installs in background without user interaction.
Features:
Background installation without user interaction
Install all apks with with a single click.
Change the directory of apk files or load all apk files.
Delete unwanted apk
Hope you find it useful!
Thanks
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stephendt0 said:
This might help, requires ADB on a PC though. It's free. My suggestion is to use Titanium Backup Pro though, it really is a fantastic app. This is a good workaround though.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-in...ly-on-android-phones-with-mass-apk-installer/
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sharon.oneclickinstaller
All apps installs in background without user interaction.
Wow talk about digging up a thread from the grave. Thanks for sharing though.
system app remover..
u just need to mark items.
backup/restore
batch install/unistall
Hi all, I am trying to download poweramp from the play store, but I keep getting the above error.
I have attached 2 screen shots showing how much storage I have, and the error I am getting.
Thanks in advance
Cheers corey
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fishingfon said:
Hi all, I am trying to download poweramp from the play store, but I keep getting the above error.
I have attached 2 screen shots showing how much storage I have, and the error I am getting.
Thanks in advance
Cheers corey
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delete the .odex file from data/app
Ok thanks heaps. It is working now
Thanks again
Cheers. Corey
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fishingfon said:
Ok thanks heaps. It is working now
Thanks again
Cheers. Corey
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insufficient Storage available
I used lucky patcher to use calendar in status bar. I then later uninstalled it, purchased it and tried to download it, i get insufficient storage available. I don't understand I have 3.4gb free on internal storage... any suggestions??
techjunkie860 said:
I used lucky patcher to use calendar in status bar. I then later uninstalled it, purchased it and tried to download it, i get insufficient storage available. I don't understand I have 3.4gb free on internal storage... any suggestions??
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Just the delete the corresponding .odex file from data/app and you'll be fine
Can't find the .odex file anywhere even looked in root system folders app/data
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Finally found it!...Thanks
nice sometimes i encounter this and ignore and not going to install that app haha
neerajganga said:
delete the .odex file from data/app
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thanks !
I'm trying to download new, never before installed apps and it says insufficient storage even though I have 200Mb + free internal and 35Gb free on my memory card. Phone is stock with root, ics 4.0.4. Sometimes I could get apps to update and or install by restarting the phone. I have tried cleaning dalvik using titanium, tried clearing cache, there is no odex file to delete, I'm out of options.
Any hints?
markdj57 said:
I'm trying to download new, never before installed apps and it says insufficient storage even though I have 200Mb + free internal and 35Gb free on my memory card. Phone is stock with root, ics 4.0.4. Sometimes I could get apps to update and or install by restarting the phone. I have tried cleaning dalvik using titanium, tried clearing cache, there is no odex file to delete, I'm out of options.
Any hints?
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which app is that? Do you use lucky patcher?
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
Lucky patcher didn't seem to do much though I haven't restarted the phone yet.
This is happening on:
FilmOn
ITV Player
ES File Explorer (trying to update)
Sky Drive
Aer Lingus
Are on my list to install but I cant.
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I'm trying Titanium's Market Doctor...
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Market Doctor has found 336 recoverable Market links...
markdj57 said:
Lucky patcher didn't seem to do much though I haven't restarted the phone yet.
This is happening on:
FilmOn
ITV Player
ES File Explorer (trying to update)
Sky Drive
Aer Lingus
Are on my list to install but I cant.
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If you are using lucky patcher,
Then:
-on each app (you applied lucky patcher), remove dalvik fix
-Under troubleshoot, remove all fixes, all backup, wipe dalvik cache and reboot
Problem solved
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
I have never used lucky patcher before so I hadn't applied any dalvik fix but I hit the button for remove all fixes and am restarting after clearing dalvik cache. I had already tried celaring the dalvik cache last week but that didn't help but we will see if this helps at all. I have 206Mb of free internal space from 2Gb.
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No, hasn't made any difference Could it be something to do with Titanium when it restores the apps after I do a flash? or is 206Mb too little space to install apps? I have also tried unmounting the sdcard but the error changes from insufficient storage to invalid package or cannot install in default location - frustrating.
markdj57 said:
I have never used lucky patcher before so I hadn't applied any dalvik fix but I hit the button for remove all fixes and am restarting after clearing dalvik cache. I had already tried celaring the dalvik cache last week but that didn't help but we will see if this helps at all. I have 206Mb of free internal space from 2Gb.
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No, hasn't made any difference Could it be something to do with Titanium when it restores the apps after I do a flash? or is 206Mb too little space to install apps? I have also tried unmounting the sdcard but the error changes from insufficient storage to invalid package or cannot install in default location - frustrating.
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ok.
Move your user apps to SD using titanium.
Note: do not move your launcher or widgets to SD, it will break their function
Good luck
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
Fixed for now, the solution?
ES file explorer, flipboard and Google maps all had updates that I could not install. I uninstalled each and reinstalled with no issues. Now all the apps that I couldn't install are installing perfectly. So frustrating that there is no definitive answer...
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Still having issues with apps. Arrghh!
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markdj57 said:
Still having issues with apps. Arrghh!
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Try deleting the .Odex file for titanium backup apk in /data/app...
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I don't have any odex files in data/app
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I'm getting an "insufficient storage" error on installing apps from Google Play (even small 6mb apps). I find if i delete several apps and run it again it works (there is apparently 470MB free despite this).
I've seen references to changing settings so that Google Play installs to the SD card but cant figure out which apply here. And also to clearing the cache for applications (in the TWRP app perhaps?).
I've run the jmz script from the Nabi 2 root thread, but I think I'm missing a step or two (although apps do in fact install, which they wouldn't before).
Any thoughts here...
Thanks
markm75 said:
I'm getting an "insufficient storage" error on installing apps from Google Play (even small 6mb apps). I find if i delete several apps and run it again it works (there is apparently 470MB free despite this).
I've seen references to changing settings so that Google Play installs to the SD card but cant figure out which apply here. And also to clearing the cache for applications (in the TWRP app perhaps?).
I've run the jmz script from the Nabi 2 root thread, but I think I'm missing a step or two (although apps do in fact install, which they wouldn't before).
Any thoughts here...
Thanks
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Is it possible to just run this command to force google play to use the external sd card via adb?
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
*where 0 means default.
I moved the TWRP unrooted backup from sdcard (internal) to sdcard2 (external). That freed up about 1 GB. If you are using Titanium Backup, it's also saving to the internal storage. Set that similarly. Yes, having trouble myself despite about the same free space shown.
Edit: Spelling correction
Edit x2: Also this thread has info on a DirectoryBind tool that will force apps to put their extra data to sdcard2. I'm having trouble at the moment getting that done at the moment (see a later post there).
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Backup location?
Noob question, but where (which directory) is that backup file in the internal memory?
Not having the device with me, I recall it was something like /mnt/sdcard/Titanium Backup or something similar. You can check within TB's settings and change the directory to store to, basically by adding the numeral two after sdcard, like /mnt/sdcard2/Titanium Backup.
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Backup
I am sorry, I was refering to the backup created when using the steps on the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674
I did not us the Titanium Backup.
If you mean the stock unrooted image, that would be inside the TWRP folder, under another folder which is based off your nabi's serial number, I recall.
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Edit: Corrected a word spelling prediction messed up for me.
help with insufficient storage errors
I rooted my son's nabi 2 a couple of months ago and everything seemed to work fine. It has now started to show that it is running out of space and giving me the insufficient storage error when I try to install an app. I deleted several apps which showed up as significant room available (about 450 mb) , but I still cannot install any apps (even small ones). Should I unroot it and try again (what's the procedure for that) and/or how can I get the apps over to a sd card.
Thanks much in advance for any help.
Re: Nabi 2 Tablet Google Play error "insufficient storage" on installing apps?
Mine is the same way. I juggle what apps to remove so I can fit new ones in. I don't think you need to start over.
Make sure you don't have TWRP backups on /mnt/sdcard. If you use Titanium Backup, make sure to set it's backup directory to sdcard2. It goes to sdcard by default. Move/remove the Lori B... videos on sdcard. I found huge thumbnail files inside DCIM/thumbs, hundreds of MB. Delete those.
Some apps consume a huge data space. My First Trainz Set downloads >400 MB even with the low space warning in and not able to load other apps. Deleting data from certain apps like that can get you a quick shot at getting another app in.
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Hi,
My phone says I still have 42MB free memory (378 used from 420).
But I am not able to install any more apps in that last 40MB. My phone acts like it is not there.
I have unlocked bl, alliance kernel, ultimate hd Rom.
move your system apps to sd card. free some internal memory
falubazowo said:
Hi,
My phone says I still have 42MB free memory (378 used from 420).
But I am not able to install any more apps in that last 40MB. My phone acts like it is not there.
I have unlocked bl, alliance kernel, ultimate hd Rom.
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Yeah that happens when you update/install bigger apps.
Since (new) apps are installed/updated into data partition and original app (in case of update) remains in system partition, you have 2 "same" apps in 2 different places.
My advice, move apps from data/app to system/app and after that delete original apps in system/app.
Use inteks systemcleanup it's free and makes this an issue from the past.
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Clear cache, it will definitely free some of the memory!
"Did I ever tell you the definition of Insanity"
I have link2sd for moving apps to 2nd sd partition and I cleaned cache. But I am wondering why I never was able to use that last 40 MB on my phone. It says it's free but I can't save any data there. I will look into those updated system apps.
Madfysh said:
Yeah that happens when you update/install bigger apps.
Since (new) apps are installed/updated into data partition and original app (in case of update) remains in system partition, you have 2 "same" apps in 2 different places.
My advice, move apps from data/app to system/app and after that delete original apps in system/app.
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I am using link2sd to manage this for me.
Updated system apps are marked green within link2sd. It offers an option to integrate the update into system. Click it, wait and problem solved.
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I have heard people say that you can use Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps. I don't have the pro version, do I just go to the Backup/Restore menu and click the app and uninstall? Is that it? Also, some of the apps don't seem to show up in Titanium backup. Specifically, I wanted to uninstall Messenger, but I can't find it in the list. Another thing is I want to uninstall the Google Search so that the search capacitive button won't have that app pop up or any of the search app for that matter. Is it safe to uninstall Google Search?
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
spunker88 said:
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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+1. Or just delete the app.
Be careful. You will MESS up if you delete any essential system app.
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Try "Root App Delete".
I used it on my Asus Slider.
Use Titanium Backup to do so !
'elkos' said:
Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
Lifehacker7 said:
Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
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Sorry my bad !!
At least titanium helps in letting us know which are system application
spunker88 said:
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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So renaming to .bak will freeze the app and prevent it from running? Is bak a special system file or can it be anything? When my Google search app is frozen, does that also mean my search button will no longer work?
spunker88 said:
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
Incomplete knowlegde is dangerous.
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sashank said:
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
kitu34 said:
But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
Incomplete knowlegde is dangerous.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
sashank said:
Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
kitu34 said:
Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
sashank said:
No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Thanks a lot,it was really great and helpful.! It was a very clear explanation,esp for a newbie.Very few people write so much for others,i am impressed.Even i fill pages for others and never assume they know anything or much.
But coz of ;less system storage only my rom was not working properly,or my phone was not working properly.I had just 48kb free.
Ok like i have a system app which is running all the time and consuming ram,won't i gain ram if i delete that?Apps or phone shows an app and memory,that is resident and shared memory or Ram an app is using?
Last thing,you talked about swapping partition for ram in sd card.I do not know how to do that,so yesterdday only sought an app for this but it did not work.Maybe my free space was also less,though apps preset was starting from 200mb,i bought new sd card today but just read at another swapper's review that some people bricked their phone.I too got scared,hehehe, and stopped for a while.One day when you are free do share a link or something from where i can follow the steps to do this considering i am a newbie and do not understand technical terms that much.I have never used ADB or commands also,never needed that,just recovery.And i rooted with superoneclick without doing anything,it was that simple and flashed reading a help article though phone went into fastboot but luckily one guy helped me for one hour but i only removed my battery.Before buying a new phone i want to try somethings on this,just little more ram would be enough..So that's it hehehe.Ok friend see you later and i must say you are a nice man.God Bless You
Use root browser lite, navigate to system/app and delete it. U need root
sashank said:
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Hello.
I'm having issues removing stock apps from custom rom.
I've tried Rom Toolbox, Root uninstaller, manually deleting apk from Root browser, nothing works. They are removed that time, but when I restart the phone, all of the apps are still there.
I thought maybe I don't have root access, but I've checked with Root checker and it was OK.
With other custom roms it worked OK, I could remove apps.
sashank said:
No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Not all apps are in the system partition, a lot of the bloat like the text to speech, play store, play services (185+mb by itself) and quite a few others are soaking up space like crazy in the data partition (u gotta figure it's another way google\phone makers use to slow your phone so u upgrade) and I'm guessing those are the ones that the original poster wants to remove