I have heard people say that you can use Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps. I don't have the pro version, do I just go to the Backup/Restore menu and click the app and uninstall? Is that it? Also, some of the apps don't seem to show up in Titanium backup. Specifically, I wanted to uninstall Messenger, but I can't find it in the list. Another thing is I want to uninstall the Google Search so that the search capacitive button won't have that app pop up or any of the search app for that matter. Is it safe to uninstall Google Search?
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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+1. Or just delete the app.
Be careful. You will MESS up if you delete any essential system app.
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Try "Root App Delete".
I used it on my Asus Slider.
Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
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Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
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Sorry my bad !!
At least titanium helps in letting us know which are system application
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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So renaming to .bak will freeze the app and prevent it from running? Is bak a special system file or can it be anything? When my Google search app is frozen, does that also mean my search button will no longer work?
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
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Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
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But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
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Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Thanks a lot,it was really great and helpful.! It was a very clear explanation,esp for a newbie.Very few people write so much for others,i am impressed.Even i fill pages for others and never assume they know anything or much.
But coz of ;less system storage only my rom was not working properly,or my phone was not working properly.I had just 48kb free.
Ok like i have a system app which is running all the time and consuming ram,won't i gain ram if i delete that?Apps or phone shows an app and memory,that is resident and shared memory or Ram an app is using?
Last thing,you talked about swapping partition for ram in sd card.I do not know how to do that,so yesterdday only sought an app for this but it did not work.Maybe my free space was also less,though apps preset was starting from 200mb,i bought new sd card today but just read at another swapper's review that some people bricked their phone.I too got scared,hehehe, and stopped for a while.One day when you are free do share a link or something from where i can follow the steps to do this considering i am a newbie and do not understand technical terms that much.I have never used ADB or commands also,never needed that,just recovery.And i rooted with superoneclick without doing anything,it was that simple and flashed reading a help article though phone went into fastboot but luckily one guy helped me for one hour but i only removed my battery.Before buying a new phone i want to try somethings on this,just little more ram would be enough..So that's it hehehe.Ok friend see you later and i must say you are a nice man.God Bless You
Use root browser lite, navigate to system/app and delete it. U need root
sashank said:
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Hello.
I'm having issues removing stock apps from custom rom.
I've tried Rom Toolbox, Root uninstaller, manually deleting apk from Root browser, nothing works. They are removed that time, but when I restart the phone, all of the apps are still there.
I thought maybe I don't have root access, but I've checked with Root checker and it was OK.
With other custom roms it worked OK, I could remove apps.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Not all apps are in the system partition, a lot of the bloat like the text to speech, play store, play services (185+mb by itself) and quite a few others are soaking up space like crazy in the data partition (u gotta figure it's another way google\phone makers use to slow your phone so u upgrade) and I'm guessing those are the ones that the original poster wants to remove
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On my rooted 2.1, after I un-installed those defaulted apps like Moxier, Wisepilot etc using Titanium backup, the internal phone storage space does not increased after that. Why? How do I release those occupied internal storage space? Thanks
i think they have different partitions,just only my 2 cents
anyone has rooted the X10 with 2.1 noticed the same? How do I release those internal space? Thanks
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
Yeah.try check tge contain of memory card. I found too many xtra folder and full of cache files.
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it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
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Thanks!
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dan-htc-touch said:
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
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Thanks. So how do I move some of the apps to /system? Thanks
Did you check the (pre-root) "uninstall applications" section?
I noticed that theres the "play now" and such sitting in there are marked as taking up 0.0 but i removed those, and my space shot down....a lot actually...im sitting at 130 used now. Or am i just thinking the space is cleared now?
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Thanks. So how do I move some of the apps to /system? Thanks
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anyone can tell me how? Thanks so much
anyone please ? Thanks !!!
any expert out there who can help me? Thanks !!!
Perhaps you can use soft links, command "ln"
http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uln.htm
What I mean is that you move the apps, and create a soft link in the place where the app used to be that points to the new place.
To me, I should be able to Factory Reset my phone any time and get what was "Delivery" By Sprint/HTC/CustomROMChef
But I should be able to update (from market) any Market App.
So I see a lot of folks put a bunch of stuff normally in System/App in Data/App
So that users can uninstall it. That's fine.
But if users want it and factory reset (or clear data) it's completely gone and the only way to get it back is to flash.
If a Market App is in System/App and it be still updated from the Market.
If it can be updated from Market why can't it be uninstaled?
It seems there should be a script that runs when you clear data that repopulates Data to the same state it was delivered. But that would waste from ROM space.
What am I missing.
I hope folks follow my thinking and can straighten me out.
Thanks
Googling around I did find this one critical tidbit
Market updates with /system apps that aren't "supposed" to be in /system is a pain. The market will install an app into the /data/app directory by default, so if you have something like LauncherPro that is a non-system app by Google's definitions, but it's in your /system/app directory because it came pre-packaged with your ROM, then if you update from the market you end up with two copies of it -- a deprecated version in /system and the current version in /data.
You also lose any theming when you update from the market, but that's nothing new and iirc that's true for any themed app regardless of whether it's in /data or /system
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In the world of s-off you don't factory reset anymore you wipe and reflash.
If you factory reset any apps or data in the /data will disappear.
The system directory is typically write protected unless you can get root permissions, any updates are stored in data. Devs will typically put the updated apps in the system dir saves some space, once an update comes out the space you saved is then lost.
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In the world of s-off you don't factory reset anymore you wipe and reflash.
If you factory reset any apps or data in the /data will disappear.
The system directory is typically write protected unless you can get root permissions, any updates are stored in data. Devs will typically put the updated apps in the system dir saves some space, once an update comes out the space you saved is then lost.
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I understand what you are saying. But I'd like the option/concept of being able to clear Data without Reflashing.
So are you saying if a Market App (e.g. Google Maps) is in System and you update it from Market, it will always put the updated version in Data and leave the System one dormant (it will never replace or remove the one in system regardless of root status)?
How does Sprints Stock ROM do it? They allow removing some bloatware and I assume if I factory Reset, nothing would be missing, even if I uninstalled it.
All I can think they do is they bury a backup of Data in the ROM that is restored on Factory Reset.
Yes on the updated apps thing. Updates are saved to data the original is left dormant in system.
The apps in the stock rom are in system, certain ones can be removed or so you think. They are more like disabled, something allows to go dormant as you called it and the only way I know to get it back is a reset.
If certain rom devs move apps to data to be actually removed and you do a reset you lose those apps. If you don't want that to happen, I suggest backing up any and all apps you want sprint, HTC, other. Then reset and restore.
I have backups of all the stock Apps I like to use and if the rom includes it, and great! If not I have a good copy on hand.
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Y factory reset when you could wipe dalvik and cache???,,, also learn how to move apps you want manually,,makes life easier for you sometimes
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Y factory reset when you could wipe dalvik and cache???,,, also learn how to move apps you want manually,,makes life easier for you sometimes
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Because if you having problems, due to what ever reason, clearing cache is not always the solution.
I am curious as to why in my Task Manager it shows that I have 19mb of "Personal Info" (PI) when I know that is not true. I have googled and searched these threads about it and this is what I have found. It seems to be some dead apps. I am running Toxic8 w/ Bali 1.2 kernal but before I had stock 2.2 from Cincinnati Bell. While on Bell's 2.2, my PI was only around 2-4mbs max (facebook/ contacts/ media-those types of things). I wiped/reset/wiped again and flashed the Toxic8 ROM.
I have an app called DiskUsage (great app) which shows what is in each folder by apk/dalvik/data-pick one, two or all. I generally just use the /data as my view point. There is a Root point to that also scans you Root folders too. It can show, lets say Facebook. You can click on it>hit show and it takes you to that apps file in Manage Apps where you can delete data/cache.
Now, I say this b/c if I run it and it shows the /dbdata folder, it shows my normal amout of personal info +/-3mb but then it also shows that /system is taking up 16+/-mb of space. I think that is the problem. What is this /system part as I have looked all over the /system folder to see if there are any links or something and can find anything that matches.
Why is my Personal Information so big if I only have 3+/-mb of personal information on it.
This is what I have tried and searched.
SDmaidPro. Corpse, Clean system/apps/ Optimize No luck
Wiped, reset, reflashed, bootloop **crap.
Wiped, reset, relashed, wiped, bootloop **crap
Wiped, reset, restored only /system, bootloop **argg*crap.
Restored and it boots up just fine but PI is still sitting at 19mb b/c obviously it was restored.
I am thinking that it is maybe the symbolic links to my first ROM that came with the phone (only had it 2 weeks or so), PLUS all the apps that came with Toxic8, but a fair amount of those, I have deleted. Think this is a Samsung bug from what I have googled. I don't want to wipe internal SD card b/c I am fairly certain the bulk of what I am looking at is not there (so it would be pointless).
Ideas and sorry for the manifesto sized post?
This is what I am finding so far after some adb work. The /system is somehow mounted to the /dbdata partition. Maybe b/c of the voodoo making them both ext4 partitions. I ran Mount and confirmed both are ext4. I don't know how or why.
I also ran busybox df -h to see what partitions are and how munch total/free/used space there is. It shows that in my DBdata partition that I have way more that I should. My personal data should only be about 3mb but it is showing at now 20mb. Before you say "why worry, you have 126mb of space". I did some tests and if I install an app, fine that is great. But say that I install it, don't like it and uninstall, it is still inflating the Dbdata partition and will not come out. This can cause long term problems with partition filled and no where to install apps. They are not in /data/data anymore but are somehow getting linked to /system AND /dbdata.
The folders in Root Explorer are
dbdata/databases
dbdata/db-journal
dbdata/lost+found
dbdata/system The four of these are normal and contain the usual personal information like passwords, cache,...and total around the 3mb as stated above.
My problem is that the /dbdata and /system partitions are somehow linked and when I install and app, it gets pushed to that phantom link and cannot be deleted. See the long term problem now?
whenever I try to install something it says I do not have sufficient storage. facebook is 3.92Mb, I have 2.3Gb on phone free for programs, 8+Gb free on phone, and 29+Gb free in card! app cache found nothing to clean and reboot did not work. I am lost!
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Try the following:
Clear cache history and other bs is browser app.
Delete any long old or unnecessary text threads. If you'd prefer there are apps to back them up.
Go into recovery and wipe cache.
See if that helps
EDIT- might even squeeze a bit more out by using an app like sd maid to clean old logs and tombstones and other BS.
@Kenny, still no workie!! I just found it strange because if you look at my OP, I have more than enough space. I will try another app! FB is jacked anyway!
Google+ FTW
Try this and remember, no matter how much you dislike what im going to say, there's no crying in baseball (little tom hanks reference )
Menu>settings>apps>downloaded>market aka vending
Force stop, clear cache, clear data, uninstall update
Now reboot. Pretty sure that should do it and if the update doesn't immediately push let me know and ill give you my apk.
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Try this and remember, no matter how much you dislike what im going to say, there's no crying in baseball (little tom hanks reference )
Menu>settings>apps>downloaded>market aka vending
Force stop, clear cache, clear data, uninstall update
Now reboot. Pretty sure that should do it and if the update doesn't immediately push let me know and ill give you my apk.
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Your gonna have to send it to me because that did not work either. Only difference, before I got Orange Triangle in Notification bar, this time, I got message directly from market. I will do it from home on WiFi in a hour, why waste my data................I have WiFi here duh!
EDIT: Why am I sooooo stupid? linkedin and my news app just updated with no problem. I should have known FB was at the root of this. months ago, I was not getting my IM. They fixed that, but app keep freezing. Last month I could not get to pictures on the phone, they fixed that, but back to the freeing. Now this crap...........
http://db.tt/6H2dNfyP
Have you tried wiping dalvik cache? You can try it in CWM but check its size before and after to see if its wiping. I've seen many issues, which I'll bet a google search will validate, that if dalvik cache grows too large it's first victim is preventing apps from installing from the market.
If recovery isn't wiping you could delete with root explorer and it will recreate
What's this facebook thing you mention? I'll have to get on google plus sometime and see if any of my peeps have heard of it
Glad to hear you're back in business.
OK, I went into System Recovery and deleted Delvik Cache, no success. I went into ROM Toolbox Pro, I cannot find a Delvik Cache folder (Likely burried somewhere.)
Everything is data/delvik-cache should be deleted
The Dex's will regenerate
Just a tip, apps including old versions of google apps that are in system, but no longer used because a newer version has been installed to data, create dalvik-cache. This is why I would release a flashable zip to my rom users every time a google app was updated. Id have the script remove the old apk from /system/app and put the new one in and wipe /cache/dalvik-cache (I'll explain in a min). This kept precious /data space free before we had super phones and kept things neat and tidy. It was more my OCD than anything because id always implement a script that's moves dalvik-cache to cache (now does that path make sense?) Which resulted in more than 20mb of extra /data space that's usable.
Food for thought. I've implemented busy box run parts support on my rom but I haven't even bothered touching my scripts yet so ....
KSmithInNY said:
Everything is data/delvik-cache should be deleted
The Dex's will regenerate
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Deleted, rebooted, viewed (personally, it looked like delvik had the same s**t as before I deleted!), attempted, same message. Although everyone's help is greatly appreciated, I think its FB.................It is FB!!! Punks! I just downloaded Pirates of the Caribbean, all 18Mb with no problem!!
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Deleted, rebooted, viewed (personally, it looked like delvik had the same s**t as before I deleted!), attempted, same message. Although everyone's help is greatly appreciated, I think its FB.................It is FB!!! Punks! I just downloaded Pirates of the Caribbean, all 18Mb with no problem!!
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Well ... if other apps work then its a FB problem, not our mopho problem. Yes the dalvik cache will recreate although smaller and any cache that was left from a previously installed app that has since been removed would not have recreated.
OK, @Kenny, that explains alot. 2 quick questions, When I look at the folder in ROM Toolbox Pro, it tells me the size is "Null", how do you view its size?
Lastly, I deleted that folder and rebooted @ 6:45PM after I got off work. The date on that folder is today, but the time is 15:18, around the time I used System Recovery to clear it? I exited ROM Toolbox, went back in to assure it was gone, rebooted. So maybe the old crap is still there?
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OK, @Kenny, that explains alot. 2 quick questions, When I look at the folder in ROM Toolbox Pro, it tells me the size is "Null", how do you view its size?
Lastly, I deleted that folder and rebooted @ 6:45PM after I got off work. The date on that folder is today, but the time is 15:18, around the time I used System Recovery to clear it? I exited ROM Toolbox, went back in to assure it was gone, rebooted. So maybe the old crap is still there?
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To be honest I don't use rom toolbox despite owning so I just installed it to see what your saying and mine shows null size as well. If you hit menu there's a setting you need to check to tell the app the show sizes. Checked it and still null. So my answer is I don't know. That's the longest I've spent using the app and they were all null.
Also make sure your not deleting the folder but rather the contents of it.
My preferred file explorer is root explorer. In fact, one of my most used apps and I'd buy it 100x's over. In root explorer I long pressed, selected properties and my dalvik-cache was 58mb. I did some cleanup of old apps in /system/app and moved the newer versions from /data/app to /system/app. Then I deleted the dalvik-cache contents and rebooted and gained 6mb from the dalvik-cache alone. Not sure how much room was freed in /data by moving the apps to /system but its 15mb as a guess. So by that I freed 20+ mb of space and did a quick general house cleaning.
If I redirecting dalvik-cache to cache and there's another 52mb.
hi all just got this photon used and it should have 16gigs inter space but phone says 8 gigs. is that right?
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hi all just got this photon used and it should have 16gigs inter space but phone says 8 gigs. is that right?
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Here is the breakup as given by a xda member bane949
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16321320&postcount=3
Hi,
sorry to disturb you but I do have some little "problems" with my HTC ONE AT&T.
I bought this phone, simunlocked already, and with revone I put it SOFF and than I "converted" it to international version of it (thinking that keeping the AT&T versionI coudn't install internatinal rom...I understood I was wrong but anyway I'm from Europe so I like to have international CID).
Few strange things happened (I'm not sure if it's normal or not).
The first one is that it seems that my phone is loosing memory, it's supposed to have 32 Gb but, as you can see from the attachment, it has just 25.5 Gb, is that normal (I do use a really slim rom, just 150 Mb, but anyway it's the same with any rom I install)...is it normal? Is it possible to format ALL and restore all the memory to an initial state (where there shall be at least 30-31 Gb avaialble I think)??
The second is that sometimes, after installing a rom, exiting the aroma installer, the screen become black instead of getting me back to the recovery (actually it seems it brings me back to the recovery but the screen goes off and no way to turn it on...so force reboot and than everything works fine....but sometimes reinstalling the same rom over and over it works fine, it bring me back to recovery and I can normally reboot the system), is it normal?
Than during the boot it says that this is a test device and so on (a sentence written under the HTC logo), is there a way to remove it? I thought I could do it with revone (I thought it was the tempered flag) but I tried the following thing and isn't removing it even if it says succesfully: Re-run revone to remove TAMPERED from your HBOOT screen: ./revone -t (but maybe it's another thing).
So is there a way to remove that sentence?
Thanks,
Massimiliano
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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TopoX84 said:
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Well is like installing Linux on a computer.. The easy setup sets different partitions that the system is going to use for multiple purposes hence losing some GB in the process to be able to perform as required.
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
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Ok I do understand that but as you can see from the screenshot attached in Setting-Storage it says Total Space 25.59Gb, available 24 and something.
I would like to see/understand/access the remaining 6/7 Gb that are not showed there!
I've the feelings that the memory is decreasing every time I'm installing a rom, I also formatted EVERYTHING. loosing the operating system (than I had to push a rom in the memory) but still is like that!
Any suggestion or idea on how to see what is inside those 7 Gb "missing" from the total space?
Any way to format them?
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
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Ok, Thanks
Solarenemy68 said:
I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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If I knew that 32 Gb meant 25 I would consider to buy the 64 Gb too ... but other than te space I just wanted to understand IF it was normal that, after just flashed a really basic clean rom (just 156 mb of rom) it was normal to have just 25 Gb free (no other additional apps, no photo and so on) ... it's normal, ok, I'll be happy with that and next phone I'll consider a 64Gb version of it.
Thanks everyone for the reply