On my rooted 2.1, after I un-installed those defaulted apps like Moxier, Wisepilot etc using Titanium backup, the internal phone storage space does not increased after that. Why? How do I release those occupied internal storage space? Thanks
i think they have different partitions,just only my 2 cents
anyone has rooted the X10 with 2.1 noticed the same? How do I release those internal space? Thanks
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
Yeah.try check tge contain of memory card. I found too many xtra folder and full of cache files.
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it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
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dan-htc-touch said:
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
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Thanks. So how do I move some of the apps to /system? Thanks
Did you check the (pre-root) "uninstall applications" section?
I noticed that theres the "play now" and such sitting in there are marked as taking up 0.0 but i removed those, and my space shot down....a lot actually...im sitting at 130 used now. Or am i just thinking the space is cleared now?
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Thanks. So how do I move some of the apps to /system? Thanks
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anyone can tell me how? Thanks so much
anyone please ? Thanks !!!
any expert out there who can help me? Thanks !!!
Perhaps you can use soft links, command "ln"
http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uln.htm
What I mean is that you move the apps, and create a soft link in the place where the app used to be that points to the new place.
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Hello!
I am a newbie to Android just migrated from a Symbian. I own a Samsung Ace, and also plan buying an Xperia Play.
When installing an application in symbian the phone asks if we want to save it in the memory card or the internal memory. How do we do this in Android phones and specifically (if it is different for every phone) in Ace and Play?
For example I installed talking tom cat 2 in Ace, the moment I opened it asked my permission to install another package, only once that was installed I was able to use the application. Then after sometime I uninstalled the app. using task manager. But the question is how do I get rid of the extra package and where has it been installed any ways.
There is no place where this information is available for a newbie.
Android at first seems a little confusing.
Also what is this ROM thing, tried to search it but didn't find anything?
Please reply soon.
Thanks.
Everything, go to settings>applications>manage applications. This should be uniform across android devices.
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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He meant installed data.
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He meant installed data.
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Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
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Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
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installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
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installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
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If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
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If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
Okay, I see the logic now. OP mentioned installing an additional package and that's probably not an app but just data, am I correct? Sorry for getting too heated up
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You mean normally the applications we install like facebook, twitter, talking tom cat 2, angry birds etc. etc. go directly to the SD-Card ?????
I thought, in Androids, it goes to the internal memory.
Because a friend of mine said that the only reason people still opt for iphones instead of android is this; that you can't enjoy the use of an SD-Card.
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
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Okay.
But my question is : Can I somehow install the application (like tom cat) directly in the Sd-Card in the first place. I am not worried about removing my card, because I have a 32 gb one.
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Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't think this is the ROM they are talking about on this website. The one you mentioned is Hardware. What they are discussing seems to be some type of software.
It's called read-only memory. It's like your xp in your computer, or windows 7, or Linux.
Edit: some applications cannot be installed into the sd card but with darktremor a2sd script it can make most apps migrate a portion of its space to the ext partition of the sd card. Do a search on google about a2sd. Also, installed data normally goes to /data/app which is internal storage. Certain apps may move their data to the .asec folder in the sd.
Question for you guys. I'm running CM7 (one of the nightlies) with DT a2sd. Received the low internal storage message today and was able to relieve about 1.5MB to get it above the threshold. But, that still leaves me at only ~20MB. I cleared cache and dalvik through recovery. I used cachemate. I moved dalvik to SD. And it didn't budge the internal storage amount. How can I find out what exactly is taking up that storage and what can I do to relieve it? Thanks for any and all help.
The only things that really take any significant amount of space are your downloaded applications, application data, and Dalvik cache. Assuming the downloaded applications and Dalvik cache really have been successfully moved to the SD card, then I suppose it could be some rogue application that is storing an excessive amount of data.
You can use one of the various file manager application that lets you gain root access and view the data partition for yourself to see what's taking up the most space though.
Are you sure the a2sd is set up properly?
I suggest using S2E over a2sd.
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Okay well I went ahead and tried S2E...great BUT, i lost all of my app data (i.e. angry birds was reset to a fresh install). Every time I reboot the phone, I have to re-setup my theme...i.e. ADW resets to normal...basically a fresh install of CM7...any guidance on that? Btw, it did free up a lot of space when I went to S2E...
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Okay well I went ahead and tried S2E...great BUT, i lost all of my app data (i.e. angry birds was reset to a fresh install). Every time I reboot the phone, I have to re-setup my theme...i.e. ADW resets to normal...basically a fresh install of CM7...any guidance on that? Btw, it did free up a lot of space when I went to S2E...
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S2E and DT a2sd are going to screw each other up, so if you are going to install S2E, you really need to completely uninstall DT first.
If you don't mind setting stuff up again, you should probably just do a clean install.
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S2E and DT a2sd are going to screw each other up, so if you are going to install S2E, you really need to completely uninstall DT first.
If you don't mind setting stuff up again, you should probably just do a clean install.
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Hmm... Even with the import function? After I do that it tells me to reinstall CM7 so as to uninstall dt a2sd... Is that not a reliable way to uninstall? I'd like to use S2E but really, really don't want to start fresh... *unless there is someway to link my restored apps (mybackup root - mainly for backing up the data) to the market * i'm pretty sure there's a way with some app but I don't remember what it's called.
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Hmm... Even with the import function? After I do that it tells me to reinstall CM7 so as to uninstall dt a2sd... Is that not a reliable way to uninstall? I'd like to use S2E but really, really don't want to start fresh... *unless there is someway to link my restored apps (mybackup root - mainly for backing up the data) to the market * i'm pretty sure there's a way with some app but I don't remember what it's called.
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Here is what i would try. Back up all apps + data with Titanium Backup and all system settings with MyBackupRoot. Do a full wipe/clean install of CM7. Install S2E and select to move apps and dalvik-cache to sd-ext through S2E. Reboot. Install Titanium Backup and MyBackupRoot from the market. Use Titanium to reinstall all apps + data. Reboot. Use MyBackupRoot to recover backed up system settings. Reboot. Done.
Just to make sure you know, S2E can only be used with CM7 and an ext-3 partition.
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I'm getting an "insufficient storage" error on installing apps from Google Play (even small 6mb apps). I find if i delete several apps and run it again it works (there is apparently 470MB free despite this).
I've seen references to changing settings so that Google Play installs to the SD card but cant figure out which apply here. And also to clearing the cache for applications (in the TWRP app perhaps?).
I've run the jmz script from the Nabi 2 root thread, but I think I'm missing a step or two (although apps do in fact install, which they wouldn't before).
Any thoughts here...
Thanks
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I'm getting an "insufficient storage" error on installing apps from Google Play (even small 6mb apps). I find if i delete several apps and run it again it works (there is apparently 470MB free despite this).
I've seen references to changing settings so that Google Play installs to the SD card but cant figure out which apply here. And also to clearing the cache for applications (in the TWRP app perhaps?).
I've run the jmz script from the Nabi 2 root thread, but I think I'm missing a step or two (although apps do in fact install, which they wouldn't before).
Any thoughts here...
Thanks
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Is it possible to just run this command to force google play to use the external sd card via adb?
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
*where 0 means default.
I moved the TWRP unrooted backup from sdcard (internal) to sdcard2 (external). That freed up about 1 GB. If you are using Titanium Backup, it's also saving to the internal storage. Set that similarly. Yes, having trouble myself despite about the same free space shown.
Edit: Spelling correction
Edit x2: Also this thread has info on a DirectoryBind tool that will force apps to put their extra data to sdcard2. I'm having trouble at the moment getting that done at the moment (see a later post there).
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Backup location?
Noob question, but where (which directory) is that backup file in the internal memory?
Not having the device with me, I recall it was something like /mnt/sdcard/Titanium Backup or something similar. You can check within TB's settings and change the directory to store to, basically by adding the numeral two after sdcard, like /mnt/sdcard2/Titanium Backup.
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Backup
I am sorry, I was refering to the backup created when using the steps on the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674
I did not us the Titanium Backup.
If you mean the stock unrooted image, that would be inside the TWRP folder, under another folder which is based off your nabi's serial number, I recall.
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help with insufficient storage errors
I rooted my son's nabi 2 a couple of months ago and everything seemed to work fine. It has now started to show that it is running out of space and giving me the insufficient storage error when I try to install an app. I deleted several apps which showed up as significant room available (about 450 mb) , but I still cannot install any apps (even small ones). Should I unroot it and try again (what's the procedure for that) and/or how can I get the apps over to a sd card.
Thanks much in advance for any help.
Re: Nabi 2 Tablet Google Play error "insufficient storage" on installing apps?
Mine is the same way. I juggle what apps to remove so I can fit new ones in. I don't think you need to start over.
Make sure you don't have TWRP backups on /mnt/sdcard. If you use Titanium Backup, make sure to set it's backup directory to sdcard2. It goes to sdcard by default. Move/remove the Lori B... videos on sdcard. I found huge thumbnail files inside DCIM/thumbs, hundreds of MB. Delete those.
Some apps consume a huge data space. My First Trainz Set downloads >400 MB even with the low space warning in and not able to load other apps. Deleting data from certain apps like that can get you a quick shot at getting another app in.
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I have heard people say that you can use Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps. I don't have the pro version, do I just go to the Backup/Restore menu and click the app and uninstall? Is that it? Also, some of the apps don't seem to show up in Titanium backup. Specifically, I wanted to uninstall Messenger, but I can't find it in the list. Another thing is I want to uninstall the Google Search so that the search capacitive button won't have that app pop up or any of the search app for that matter. Is it safe to uninstall Google Search?
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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+1. Or just delete the app.
Be careful. You will MESS up if you delete any essential system app.
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Try "Root App Delete".
I used it on my Asus Slider.
Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
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Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
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Sorry my bad !!
At least titanium helps in letting us know which are system application
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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So renaming to .bak will freeze the app and prevent it from running? Is bak a special system file or can it be anything? When my Google search app is frozen, does that also mean my search button will no longer work?
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
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Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
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But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
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Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Thanks a lot,it was really great and helpful.! It was a very clear explanation,esp for a newbie.Very few people write so much for others,i am impressed.Even i fill pages for others and never assume they know anything or much.
But coz of ;less system storage only my rom was not working properly,or my phone was not working properly.I had just 48kb free.
Ok like i have a system app which is running all the time and consuming ram,won't i gain ram if i delete that?Apps or phone shows an app and memory,that is resident and shared memory or Ram an app is using?
Last thing,you talked about swapping partition for ram in sd card.I do not know how to do that,so yesterdday only sought an app for this but it did not work.Maybe my free space was also less,though apps preset was starting from 200mb,i bought new sd card today but just read at another swapper's review that some people bricked their phone.I too got scared,hehehe, and stopped for a while.One day when you are free do share a link or something from where i can follow the steps to do this considering i am a newbie and do not understand technical terms that much.I have never used ADB or commands also,never needed that,just recovery.And i rooted with superoneclick without doing anything,it was that simple and flashed reading a help article though phone went into fastboot but luckily one guy helped me for one hour but i only removed my battery.Before buying a new phone i want to try somethings on this,just little more ram would be enough..So that's it hehehe.Ok friend see you later and i must say you are a nice man.God Bless You
Use root browser lite, navigate to system/app and delete it. U need root
sashank said:
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Hello.
I'm having issues removing stock apps from custom rom.
I've tried Rom Toolbox, Root uninstaller, manually deleting apk from Root browser, nothing works. They are removed that time, but when I restart the phone, all of the apps are still there.
I thought maybe I don't have root access, but I've checked with Root checker and it was OK.
With other custom roms it worked OK, I could remove apps.
sashank said:
No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Not all apps are in the system partition, a lot of the bloat like the text to speech, play store, play services (185+mb by itself) and quite a few others are soaking up space like crazy in the data partition (u gotta figure it's another way google\phone makers use to slow your phone so u upgrade) and I'm guessing those are the ones that the original poster wants to remove
Hi!
I have a problem in LG G2 mini of my brother!
He have make upgrade by wifi to Lollipop but he see that System Data
is too big 3,76Gb.
I have tryed to update with LG Flash Tool two times but System Data
increase to 4,11Gb.
How can I resolve that?
The phone is original, still under warranty and never root that.
Is a solution?
I have set twenty LG G2 Mini and this is the only one that have this
problem.
Thanks to everything.
On KitKat, it only shows user accessible space (a little less than 4GB).
On Lollipop, it shows the whole storage chip (8GB), including the ~4GB taken up by the system.
I am gonna be as clear as I can:
You cannot take that space back, as it is required for the system to work!
and you posted in the wrong section
Vagelis1608 said:
On KitKat, it only shows user accessible space (a little less than 4GB).
On Lollipop, it shows the whole storage chip (8GB), including the ~4GB taken up by the system.
I am gonna be as clear as I can:
You cannot take that space back, as it is required for the system to work!
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is there a list of safely removable programs?
brenyoka said:
is there a list of safely removable programs?
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That won't change anything. (You need root anyway)
System apps are stored on the system partition ( /system ) which by itself is 2GB and you can't change its size without root. However, even if you had root, it is very dangerous and the stock Lollipop ROM leaves ~30MB free on it, so the system would brake (and you would end up with a soft-bricked phone).
The other 2GB are taken by other partitions, all of which are required and you can't reduce their size.
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numpea said:
and you posted in the wrong section
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I'm sorry!
Curiosity
Vagelis1608 said:
On KitKat, it only shows user accessible space (a little less than 4GB).
On Lollipop, it shows the whole storage chip (8GB), including the ~4GB taken up by the system.
I am gonna be as clear as I can:
You cannot take that space back, as it is required for the system to work!
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Ok, thanks for the reply. But it's strange that in my smartphone there isn't this separation, while in 4 smartphone I noticed it but of different sizes. Why different sizes? Strange...can you tell me also that my curiosity ?
2 gigs for system folder, 700 mb for cache. Plus some folders between 200 and 500. Maybe some carrier chances using or not these folders. Would need to look further to find the reason.
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Dalvik cache stuff...
Hi, ive heard you could delete the dalvik cache file of the leftover of kitkat... Is that possible ? And would that be fine?
Voidpursuit said:
Hi, ive heard you could delete the dalvik cache file of the leftover of kitkat... Is that possible ? And would that be fine?
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You need root.
Simply delete /data/dalvik-cache
BTW, it will free a lot of space.
Vagelis1608 said:
You need root.
Simply delete /data/dalvik-cache
BTW, it will free a lot of space.
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Wow, thanks, I'll do that. But that won't affect anything, right?... since im in lollipop now.
And, is everything in data/dalvik-cache safe to remove? Thanks a bunch!
Voidpursuit said:
Wow, thanks, I'll do that. But that won't affect anything, right?... since im in lollipop now.
And, is everything in data/dalvik-cache safe to remove? Thanks a bunch!
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Delete everything under /data/dalvik-cache and then reboot immediately!
If the system needs any of those files, it will recreate them on boot.