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I wonder how these magnetic lens would work on the G1? Hope the magnet is not enough to mess with the compass.
http://usbfever.com/index_ecat.php?cPath=55_177
Bohemian said:
I wonder how these magnetic lens would work on the G1? Hope the magnet is not enough to mess with the compass.
http://usbfever.com/index_ecat.php?cPath=55_177
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Since cases with tiny magnets seems to goof things up, I for one, am not willing to risk it. Nice idea though...
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That would be really cool!!! Order one and let us know if it works
Ordered these last week, still waiting for them to arrive. Planning to mount the magnet on some extra zagg shielding I have, so I can easily remove it if it turns out to mess with the compass or the lenses don't work well. Will post pics and a review when I've got them!
http://usbfever.com/member/37704/products/718_iPhone_3G_Telescope.jpg
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Are they serious? The size of that thing alone makes me think you'd be better off carrying a nice compact Point 'n' Shoot camera.
So, got my lenses today, and I really like them! One problem, I had ordered a telephoto, fisheye, and macro, and GOT two telephoto and a macro. I've emailed them about the problem, and will see what comes of it. I think these are going to be really fun to have on hand. They each came with a magnetic back cover, and a plastic snap on front cover. The back cover has a little cord loop, so it can be attached to a keychain, zipper pull, or whatever.
The lenses do make a clear difference in photographs. I've attached some pics I took with the macro lens. I'll upload telephoto pics tomorrow, as I'm at work and forgot the telephoto lens!
So, the question is now that you have your lens...Does it mess with the phones magnetic compass?
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The pic w/o macro looks better. Macro is reserved for extreme close-ups so maybe that has something to do with the quality of your photo. Does the snap-on case make any mention of shielding by the way?
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So I got a reply to my email about the order being shipped wrong in about 43 hours from sending the email, which is pretty good, I sent the email at 10am on Saturday, and got a reply at 5 am on Monday. They're say they're shipping me the missing lens, with no mention of charging me anything, or even of sending them back the second telephoto lens I got. So, I'm pretty impressed by that, and if they do manage to get it right the second time, I'll be quite happy with the purchase and the customer service experience. Also, each lens came with two of the little metal rings you stick on whatever you want to use the lens with, which I liked. It means I can have my cell phone, webcam, and partner's cell phone all set up to use the lenses, and still have 4 rings left over for use on future items. I also got a cradle with second battery slot, and a spare battery from USBFever, and am very happy with that as well. I ordered on the 7th, and my order arrived from Hong Kong on the 17th. And as a bonus, my order arrived as a brown paper package tied up with string, prompting my roommate who brought the package in, myself, and my partner to all start singing These Are A Few of My Favorite Things.
Gorguts said:
The pic w/o macro looks better. Macro is reserved for extreme close-ups so maybe that has something to do with the quality of your photo. Does the snap-on case make any mention of shielding by the way?
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Turns out, that wasn't the macro lens, it was the wide angle lens. One lens does both, it unscrews for macro. The macro is great, it lets you do insane closeups that the camera by itself won't even focus for. I can't do a comparison shot for the camera with and without the macro, cos without the macro, the camera won't focus at such close range! Attached the various test shots, all properly labeled this time, plus shots of the macro/wide angle lens assembled and apart. The telephoto, regular, and wide angle were all taken from the same distance/position (well, I might have moved a tiny bit switching out the lenses, but close enough!).
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So, the question is now that you have your lens...Does it mess with the phones magnetic compass?
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It does seem to mess with the compass, yeah, but only when the lens is actually on. There's a little metal ring with a sticky backing that you put on the phone to stick the lens to, and the little metal ring by itself does NOT mess with the compass. So, the compass is only messed with when the lens is actually on. I consider this to be acceptable, if I need to use the compass, I just take the lens off and drop it into my pocket or backpack.
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It does seem to mess with the compass, yeah, but only when the lens is actually on. There's a little metal ring with a sticky backing that you put on the phone to stick the lens to, and the little metal ring by itself does NOT mess with the compass. So, the compass is only messed with when the lens is actually on. I consider this to be acceptable, if I need to use the compass, I just take the lens off and drop it into my pocket or backpack.
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Only issue I see with that then is if the photo gps data relies on magnetic compass for tagging info. Haven't looked at the tag on the photos if it records a magnetic facing or not. Otherwise if no permanent compass problems, guess I am ordering some.
Ok, the fisheye lens arrived today. My overall experience with usbfever was definitely a positive one. Yeah, they made a mistake in the initial order, shipping me two telephoto lenses and no fisheye lens, but they were quick to rectify the problem. I had a reply to my email about the problem quickly, and the postmark on the replacement lens indicates it was shipped the day they replied to my email about the problem, and without charging me so much as an extra penny! They didn't even ask for the extra telephoto lens back! I'd call that top notch customer service. I've attached a couple pictures, one taken with the fisheye lens, the same shot taken just normally, and a picture of all three lenses (with a usb cable shown for sizing and cos it happened to be right there). It's a bit dark cos of the lighting in the room the pics were taken in.
be VERY VERY careful with magnets, they can permenantly **** up compasses with ease. you might not notice anything now, but repeted exposure WILL do damage in the long run.
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repeted exposure WILL do damage in the long run.
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I'm not seeing anything on google to support this, and don't remember any such info from various how magnets/compasses work lessons in school or scouting. (Tho it has been a while, so maybe I'm forgetting.)
I do remember being told in scouts that a quick and easy way to calibrate a misaligned compass was to run a strong magnet around it in a full circle, clockwise&counterclockwise. This was supposed to properly magnetize the compass and allow the compass to align to the earth's magnetic fields to an acceptable accurate degree for general navigation.
i didn't know you could re-calibrate a compass, thats handy to know. but i know for a fact a magnet can pretty much break a compass, i've done it before, but if it can be re-alligned i guess theres not much to worry about.
just out of curiosity, what kind of compass does the G1 use?
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i was just browsing a site full of electronics and gadgets and what not and came across this:
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03926&cat_id=1180&dept_id=017
the images of it say one thing but the quality of the shown pictures taken with the telescope is pretty nice... how real they are is another question... what do you guys think?
i know if i saw some dude on the street with a scope like that on his G1, i would think cia or something. and i can get it for $17? sweet! but i will wait for reviews. lol.
I saw those on ebay for under $10. My guess is they are about the same quality at a $10 kids toy microscope.. all plastic with junk plastic lenses.. but who wants to carry one of those around? Just set a few feet closer and take the picture.
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Breach said:
I saw those on ebay for under $10. My guess is they are about the same quality at a $10 kids toy microscope.. all plastic with junk plastic lenses.. but who wants to carry one of those around? Just set a few feet closer and take the picture.
Rick
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lol hells yea dude. reminds me of the cheap telescope's you'd find in a happy meal back in the day when disney didnt own happy meals lol
I found one on e-bay for $13 shipped. I'm a photo nerd and I like toy cameras... so I'm gonna take the plunge.
ok so ive used the sgp case on this thing with zagg on the front but i have noticed little hairline scratches on the rear camera which do not effect the photos at all but they worrie me can someone please either ease my mind or tell me the bad ... please and thank you
oh and i have tried the screen shield thing but messes with the camera ???? so no way
I've dropped my s2 before and had a whole thin crack go down the lens of the camera..remember its not the camera itself but the glass covering it....and I didn't notice any difference in quality in pictures or video and believe mine was probaly a lot worse..I like to take pictures...the whole mind set of believing your camera glass bothered the hell out of me....but I wouldn't worry about or let it bother you too much...as it didn't effect any quality....I hope this helps ease your mind alittle.
yea they arent visible unless i hold it at certain light in the certain spots etc but i see them and i obsess over them! my wife even yells at me but ya know that i havent noticed any pic quality! is anyone doing anything to protect the camera that i dont know???
http://www.deansphotographica.com/deans_of_idaho/old_stuff_pages/dirtylenstest/dirtylenstest.html
http://www.robandrewphoto.com/blog/tech/silly-lens-scratch-test-canon
http://kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
An more insight people I'm thinking it's normal ehh even though I baby it!!!!
tyshemi said:
An more insight people I'm thinking it's normal ehh even though I baby it!!!!
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I freak on that too. My old Evo and Evo 3D's Otterbox cases had protectors over the cameras. I feel like I have a 5"brick of C4 handling this thing because I'm so worried about scratching it. Luckily I think it's on Ebay where you can buy a while new back with lens cover of you do mess it up
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I freak on that too. My old Evo and Evo 3D's Otterbox cases had protectors over the cameras. I feel like I have a 5"brick of C4 handling this thing because I'm so worried about scratching it. Luckily I think it's on Ebay where you can buy a while new back with lens cover of you do mess it up
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If you find the link please share it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Housing-Bat...r-Samsung-AT-T-Galaxy-Note-i717-/150786205026
There's others too, but this is the first I saw. Note that I see it says it's in China, I'm really not sure about it, but I saw lots more reputable ones when looking for cases
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so is anyone else freaked out about scratching this camera ?? or screw it lol i dunno what else i need to do to protect ? i mean i know that they are made to be used but i babie this thing and its mint but those to me are like death only visible in certain light but still no effect to pictures that i see
I just put a piece of clear film between the camera glass and the case.
Speaking from the perspective of a photographer I can tell you that ANY aberration in the optics of a camera will have a detrimental effect on the quality of the image recorded. As light is refracted through a lens the scattering of the spectrum will cause unexpected and, often, unwanted lighting effects in the finished image. Best of all worlds... keep your lens (and protective outer casing) protected until ready for use, then remove any outer covering from the camera lens before taking photos. Then cover again until the next use.
Happy photo hunting.
Looking at the back of the phone, the camera looks like it sticks out more then sgs1 and 2. Do you think there camera'bump' or worse still the camera lens will get scratched when lying it on its back?
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From my experience this is inevitable. On my HTC Desire it is quite badly scratched up. The good thing is, that the part that gets scratched up is only the transparent plastic on the back cover, which can be replaced easily.
Don't know about the One X though. Its camera juts out too. I was planning to buy that but didn't because of the non removable back..
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is the s3 lens sticking out more than s2? some images pls
Hope these images appear !
Scratches on a lens are generally hardly noticeable, if at all, in pictures, though more so if you're shooting f11 onwards. Obviously a mega gouge would show but I don't think there's too much to worry about. It's the condition of the sensor that really matters.
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Hope these images appear !
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The camera lens would be placed a bit inside the silver frame, so it should be safe hopefully
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Scratches on a lens are generally hardly noticeable, if at all, in pictures, though more so if you're shooting f11 onwards. Obviously a mega gouge would show but I don't think there's too much to worry about. It's the condition of the sensor that really matters.
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Most people who have had a phone where the glass/plastic lens cover lies against a table when the phone is resting on its back, find that camera images get much more blurry after a few weeks. Many HTC Desire users ended up punching out the plastic cover with a pen, and when you see before and after pictures, the improvement is really noticeable.
The manufacturer just needs to build in a half mm lip on the camera surround. Doesn't look like Samsung did this. The next best option is an additional case protrudes beyond the lens cover, like a gel case.
well the Desire was designed to be placed screen down, hence the lip - so it doesn't scratch the screen.
With the SGS3 packing Gorilla glass 2, I'm guessing you're meant to (or at least can..) place it screen down also...
it would be fine... trust me I have S 2 and never had any straches neither front nor the back.
I've had a chance to play around with an SIII and that was my first concern to, but there is a silver frame around the lens that protrudes slightly (about half a mm) so the camera doesn't actually touch flat surfaces.
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I've had a chance to play around with an SIII and that was my first concern to, but there is a silver frame around the lens that protrudes slightly (about half a mm) so the camera doesn't actually touch flat surfaces.
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Thanks, that's good to hear.
I always buy a case as I generally drop my phone at least once a week and my cases take the beating, I have practically shattered the plastic pieces on my case, btw the case is one of those gels with a piece of plastic in it.
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Found an old thread here while searching for something completely unrelated!
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My camera lense is scratched to buggery, i had to buy a case to stop it getting worse, Bad move by Samsung IMHO,
I dont think it makes a difference with the shots though, but left to get worse and i guess it probably would eventually..
didnt you guys get the leather pouch with the phone ? samsung gave that for a reason
Obviously not to everyone
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I recently purchased a second hand Xperia Z2, and after about two weeks I discovered a shatter in the back. (I'm not sure when it broke because it was in a case.) Since that happened, I've had a closer look at the rear glass and I'm trying to work out whether it is original, or whether it has been replaced with a non-genuine back cover.
I've read through a number of posts discussion genuine vs non-genuine, and here is what I've noticed:
In favour of being genuine:
1. It has a SONY logo
2. The camera lens is actually a separate piece glued on to the case.
In favour of being fake:
1. The LED flash doesn't line up very well with the hole
2. There was no shatter-proof film (so far as I could tell): once the back broke, there was glass dust coming off all over the case and sharpish edges were exposed. It didn't all fall apart or anything, though.
I imagine I could tell if I actually pulled the back off, because the adhesive would probably be a giveaway. (It looks like the ones on eBay don't have the fine edge of adhesive, but rather have adhesive all over the place) but I'd rather not do that. At least, not unless I have a pretty good reason to check further.
Photo of lens/flash is attached.
Anyone have insights or thoughts? (Apart from "you're a klutz". I know that already). If you've got an XZ2 with an original back and want to post a pic of your flash alignment with the hole, I'd be curious to see it. Photos of the lens arrangement would be interesting too because my one looks a bit different to the one here - on mine the silver goes all the way to the edge, on that one it looks like the ring ends before the glued region. A lot like this one purchased from eBay.
Cheers!
(The follow-up question is: if it is a non-genuine replacement back, but I was the one to break it within a couple of weeks of getting the phone - despite it being in a cover - is it reasonable to go after the seller about it)
It seems to be a duplicate one. Its a little misaligned + the transparent glass covering the flash contains small-small rings.
The Writings part(20.7 MP...) is a little brighter than the actual. I don't know if u have used flash while taking this pic.
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It seems to be a duplicate one. Its a little misaligned + the transparent glass covering the flash contains small-small rings.
The Writings part(20.7 MP...) is a little brighter than the actual. I don't know if u have used flash while taking this pic.
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Nope, no flash, so I think you're right. Well spotted on the small rings on the flash too.
Pity it seems to be impossible to get a real 'genuine Z2 glass back' to replace it with.
I recently replaced my back with non-original parts, but mine is white color. So what I could notice, is that on original cover all of the grey text was a bit brighter. The fake part has noticeably darker text.
The silver ring around the camera looks like a fake plastic, what also seems to be the same in your case. + when I use the flashlight I can definitely see a square shape, but this one may be just in white models.
So I would say, based on your photo, 80% that it's a fake, especially when the led is badly aligned (even in my fake back panel it aligns well).
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This is 100% fake back plate, flash has no rings, plate color is too black, letters are too bright and printed on the glass and not inside the glass like on the original back plate. This is tue cheapest back plate you can get on ebay but there are good back plates that are almost identical to original Sony bp but are priced higher than 10 euro.
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Nope, no flash, so I think you're right. Well spotted on the small rings on the flash too.
Pity it seems to be impossible to get a real 'genuine Z2 glass back' to replace it with.
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i got originals here in belgium but they costs me 50€ each :/ fake ones are often quite thin and only cost 10-15€.
They break sometimes after 1 hour sometime 6 days.
goodluck If its not made of glass, than often its thinner and youl feel an edge on the back of your phone
Thanks for the help everyone! Now I just need to decide whether to complain to the seller and try to return the device or not.
And that's why buying second hand phones is hit and miss I guess. Gah.
vo4LG said:
Thanks for the help everyone! Now I just need to decide whether to complain to the seller and try to return the device or not.
And that's why buying second hand phones is hit and miss I guess. Gah.
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I would return it if he didn't mentioned it in his auction.
Btw is your phone waterproof (pressure sensor test)?
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mr.loverlover said:
I would return it if he didn't mentioned it in his auction.
Btw is your phone waterproof (pressure sensor test)?
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It wasn't mentioned in the auction. Unfortunately I didn't notice until 32 days after sale, so the ebay guarantee doesn't apply *frustrated*.
Doing a pressure sensor test, the pressure does go up so it is still fully sealed (which I'm pretty surprised about, to be honest). Still, if it were submerged there would be forces on the camera lens etc that just pressing on it doesn't create, so I'm still not going to try to drown it =) Probably pretty safe for a rinse though.
If I can't sort it out with the seller, I might just buy a new back, remove the lens etc from the new one, put a thin coat of epoxy resin over the broken one and sandwich the new one onto it. Hopefully having two layers will increase the strength (if not the prettiness).
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It wasn't mentioned in the auction. Unfortunately I didn't notice until 32 days after sale, so the ebay guarantee doesn't apply *frustrated*.
Doing a pressure sensor test, the pressure does go up so it is still fully sealed (which I'm pretty surprised about, to be honest). Still, if it were submerged there would be forces on the camera lens etc that just pressing on it doesn't create, so I'm still not going to try to drown it =) Probably pretty safe for a rinse though.
If I can't sort it out with the seller, I might just buy a new back, remove the lens etc from the new one, put a thin coat of epoxy resin over the broken one and sandwich the new one onto it. Hopefully having two layers will increase the strength (if not the prettiness).
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Wow. It's still water resistant. In my case the glue was so bad, that my back panel got opened so I had to use some normal glue to make it stick. I replaced the back myself, so If I were you I wouldn't touch the back panel if you don't have any problems with it.
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Thanks to everyone who responded!
One last favour: just doing a minor battle over PayPal claim that the back is not original. It would be great if someone could just take a few snaps of the back of their phone with original glass (especially if it can include the detail of the lens and flash lens, which seem to be the most obvious differences between the Sony and non-Sony rear glass). I've got plenty of stock/review photos, but it would be really helpful to have a couple which are 'real' pics rather than stock ones.
Many thanks =)
vo4LG said:
Thanks to everyone who responded!
One last favour: just doing a minor battle over PayPal claim that the back is not original. It would be great if someone could just take a few snaps of the back of their phone with original glass (especially if it can include the detail of the lens and flash lens, which seem to be the most obvious differences between the Sony and non-Sony rear glass). I've got plenty of stock/review photos, but it would be really helpful to have a couple which are 'real' pics rather than stock ones.
Many thanks =)
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Hope this helps, my point and shoot is out of batteries.
You can also point out the 20.7Mpix and G lens writing it is printed inside the glass and the cover is supposed to be blueish expecially when wet, like a shine trough effect.
So I ran my f1 without any covers because none were available where I live when I first bought it and the free is get disgustingly dirty after minimal use. I was going down a slope and the phone fell from jackets pocket and got dragged 4 meters down on the concrete. The Plastic back is completely annihilated and the upper part of the camera lens is broken. the camera still takes photos but they all have fogginess in them. the side got damaged but the screen is intact.
is it possible to get a replacement for the damaged part? at least for the back. And is it better to try and do it myself (I have some experience) or find a way to send it to an official branch for them to do it? I bought it from a 3rd party online retailer so I doubt the warranty will have any weight here.
yes.there are many videos showing how to do it on youtube
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yes.there are many videos showing how to do it on youtube
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I'm yet to see anything about replacing the camera lens, I could replace the entire model I guess but that'll probably cost a ton.
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So I ran my f1 without any covers because none were available where I live when I first bought it and the free is get disgustingly dirty after minimal use. I was going down a slope and the phone fell from jackets pocket and got dragged 4 meters down on the concrete. The Plastic back is completely annihilated and the upper part of the camera lens is broken. the camera still takes photos but they all have fogginess in them. the side got damaged but the screen is intact.
is it possible to get a replacement for the damaged part? at least for the back. And is it better to try and do it myself (I have some experience) or find a way to send it to an official branch for them to do it? I bought it from a 3rd party online retailer so I doubt the warranty will have any weight here.
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You can try this.
you can replace the housing easily.
downside is, you cant find a rear housing with the flash cover ..almost all of them on aliexpress, ebay, gearbest DO NOT have the flash cover. they have camera lens cover, but not the flash cover which is kinda strange.
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you can replace the housing easily.
downside is, you cant find a rear housing with the flash cover ..almost all of them on aliexpress, ebay, gearbest DO NOT have the flash cover. they have camera lens cover, but not the flash cover which is kinda strange.
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the flash cover is intact. my issue was the glass covering the cameras
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You can try this.
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thanks. that is pretty useful! not as a guide but as confirmation that it is possible to replace the camera housing. thanks
I bought spare parts like
Back cover , camera lens , lcd with frame , charging port from aliexpress and they are cheap
All arrived successfully