Systemless or default root? - Galaxy S6 Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What would you prefer to have in our guture marshmallow update?
I would like both but wouldnt mind systemless
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i like systemless.
because no custom kernel in mm

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Q: is there a stock ics rom without root and...

Q: is there a stock ics rom without root and... Is it possible to remove superuser that comes on a installed rooted stock rom?
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A stock ICS from without root.... you mean the stock ICS that comes with the phone?
But, a ROM without root? Not possible. You have to be rooted to run and install ROMs.
What about a rom that is flashable through recovery without superuser?
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papaavi said:
What about a rom that is flashable through recovery without superuser?
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Maybe, but why don't you want super user?
Where can I find a good unaltered base rom (non-ruu) . Having trouble finding a working link. Want an ics global version and a regular ics old kernel...
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papaavi said:
Where can I find a good unaltered base rom (non-ruu) . Having trouble finding a working link. Want an ics global version and a regular ics old kernel...
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I'm pretty sure the older stock ICS kernel won't work on the global leak.
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Systemless Root

Is there anyway I can get systemless root on mm .575? It'd be great if someone can guide me through.
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Only through custom kernel and unlocked bootloader.
DawoodSahi said:
Is there anyway I can get systemless root on mm .575? It'd be great if someone can guide me through.
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AlanDS said:
Only through custom kernel and unlocked bootloader.
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You should Downgrade To 5.1.1
And Do root vith King Root
And instal Nut Dual Recovery
Then You should Build A Rooted Rom with PRF Creator And install in Recovery
Or Download A Rooted Rom from Other Topics And install in Recovery
If You Go to Unlock Bootloader
Xreality And Bionz Of Camera Was be disabled Forever.
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Sajad Askari said:
You should Downgrade To 5.1.1
And Do root vith King Root
And instal Nut Dual Recovery
Then You should Build A Rooted Rom with PRF Creator And install in Recovery
Or Download A Rooted Rom from Other Topics And install in Recovery
If You Go to Unlock Bootloader
Xreality And Bionz Of Camera Was be disabled Forever.
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But OP is asking for Systemless root.
Your method is not Systemless. It's simply about getting root using Prerooted firmware which uses system root method.
If you were to use systemless root on unlocked bl, Would you be able to get android pay working or would it still reject it?
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adam_purkis said:
If you were to use systemless root on unlocked bl, Would you be able to get android pay working or would it still reject it?
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That's what it is all about. I want systemless xposed but it's not working in my Z2 and people have suggested that I try getting systemless root then try flashing systemless xposed, I've tried a lot of stuff but after flashing systemless xposed framework, it just reboots normally and doesn't works as it patches boot.img and idk there's something with it that's not working on Z2 .575 mm
So I just wanted to know.
And yes you can use android/google pay with SYSTEMLESS XPOSED which you can find Here
It's not necessary to have systemless root for this. You can simply flash it and use materialistic xposed installer.
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Update:
Unlocked bootloader, Flashed custom kernel (Advanced Stock Kernel .570) on. 575
Restored drm
Flashed systemless supersu 2.74-2
Flashed systemless xposed
Rebooted and everything is working perfectly.
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DawoodSahi said:
Update:
Unlocked bootloader, Flashed custom kernel (Advanced Stock Kernel .570) on. 575
Restored drm
Flashed systemless supersu 2.74-2
Flashed systemless xposed
Rebooted and everything is working perfectly.
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Awesome that sounds good. So just to confirm, does android pay work for you now? Can you add a new payment method?
Thanks for the info!
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adam_purkis said:
Awesome that sounds good. So just to confirm, does android pay work for you now? Can you add a new payment method?
Thanks for the info!
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Yes it does. Cheers!
DawoodSahi said:
Update:
Unlocked bootloader, Flashed custom kernel (Advanced Stock Kernel .570) on. 575
Restored drm
Flashed systemless supersu 2.74-2
Flashed systemless xposed
Rebooted and everything is working perfectly.
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Kindly share the link to these files please? Thanks!
imkentoy said:
Kindly share the link to these files please? Thanks!
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sony+xperia+z2+unlock+bootloader
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sony+xperia+z2+Advanced+Stock+Kernel+.570
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sony+xperia+z2+restore+DRM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=systemless+supersu+2.74-2
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=systemless+xposed
That should do it

Systemless flashing of radio, bootloader and stock ROM?

Hi,
Is there a way to flash radio, bootloader and stock ROM without using fastboot? Basically systemless flashing?
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Do you mean on your phone without the need for a PC? If so use flashfire.

Using FlashFire to return to stock

I am wondering if it is possible to flash the latest dev preview with flashfire and doing a factory reset will that unroot my phone and return me to stock
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xMIChael91x said:
I am wondering if it is possible to flash the latest dev preview with flashfire and doing a factory reset will that unroot my phone and return me to stock
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Nope. SuperSU does the job. I've never done it, but read it somewhere. Don't try it or you will get either a bootloop or brick your phone.
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What you mean SuperSu does the job
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xMIChael91x said:
I am wondering if it is possible to flash the latest dev preview with flashfire and doing a factory reset will that unroot my phone and return me to stock
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Why don't you flash Google preview image ? It will wipe everything and return you to stock.
xMIChael91x said:
What you mean SuperSu does the job
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I mean you should use the SuperSu to unroot, then update with fastboot.
Check this: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=b86-OvFeAec
It's a simple way to unroot (I guess)... Like I said before, never done it.
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Oo OK lol I'll check it out
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xMIChael91x said:
Oo OK lol I'll check it out
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A easier way would be with Nexus Root Toolkit. It's an all in one tool.
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Just download the developer preview #2 and use flashfire to install. That's what I did. Really, really easy.
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Chainfire himself doesn't recommend flashing bootloader and radio using FlashFire.
The safest way to install those is using fastboot from a PC.
If you want to just unroot, and you are systemless, you just need to flash the boot.img.
bigmatt503 said:
Just download the developer preview #2 and use flashfire to install. That's what I did. Really, really easy.
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So all you did was flash the dev preview image. Do you still have root or no
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xMIChael91x said:
So all you did was flash the dev preview image. Do you still have root or no
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I had to reflash super user
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casadomack said:
A easier way would be with Nexus Root Toolkit. It's an all in one tool.
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Please do not advise someone who is not familiar with how to flash images / return to stock to use a toolkit, ever. Unless you're willing to walk them back to stock step by step in their "Help, my phone is dead!!!" thread in Q&A...
bigmatt503 said:
I had to reflash super user
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OK what was your steps you made to achieve this
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Download the developer preview #2 then use flashfire and use the flash firmware and then it will give you a few choices on what you want to keep (recovery, data, other stuff) them hit the flash button. If you look on YouTube there's a few great tutorials from maow droid and gadget hacks that I learned from. Hope I have helped.
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Just wanted to say was able to use FlashFire to apply final 7.1.1 on developer preview. Just selected boot, system and vendor. Preserve recovery and inject root. No problems whatsoever!
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dratsablive said:
Just wanted to say was able to use FlashFire to apply final 7.1.1 on developer preview. Just selected boot, system and vendor. Preserve recovery and inject root. No problems whatsoever!
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Yes, that's the quickest method from a fully stock DP2 with twrp and root and is safe.
dratsablive said:
Just wanted to say was able to use FlashFire to apply final 7.1.1 on developer preview. Just selected boot, system and vendor. Preserve recovery and inject root. No problems whatsoever!
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This doesn't update the modem. Seems potentially problematic not to flash it too as a general practice...? (Which I think you're only supposed to do with fastboot?)
ndfan77 said:
This doesn't update the modem. Seems potentially problematic not to flash it too as a general practice...? (Which I think you're only supposed to do with fastboot?)
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From DP to 7.1.1 the modem hasn't changed.
Otherwise yes, it should have been updated through fastboot.
ndfan77 said:
This doesn't update the modem. Seems potentially problematic not to flash it too as a general practice...? (Which I think you're only supposed to do with fastboot?)
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FWIW -- the modem included with 7.1.1 is 03.78. The modem that was on my 6P originally was 03.72 (but I was two security updates behind at this point, counting the one in 7.1.1). Who knows what changed between the two. Maybe something significant, or maybe not. But as a matter of practice it's probably just easier to take the time to update the modem with fastboot after a FlashFire OTA update finishes, rather than taking the time to research whether anything significant changed in the modem. Even with this extra nuance though, using FlashFire is still an improvement over manually flashing each partition and then re-rooting.

Ota with custom Kernel

Guys i know how to update with root but can i Update with elemental Kernel or what must i do? Sorry for this stupid question...
Thanks
Just update normally, then flash the kernel.
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Lossyx said:
Just update normally, then flash the kernel.
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Im on 10.0.4 with thee kernel already flasged. So i can ota and then flash the kernel again and everything is good? I will lose the kernel with ota right?
Goku1992 said:
Im on 10.0.4 with thee kernel already flasged. So i can ota and then flash the kernel again and everything is good? I will lose the kernel with ota right?
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Yes, you'll lose the Kernel.
As I said, just update as you normally would. Once it's done, make sure you're still rooted, and then flash the kernel.
But I'd advise not to update right now, as OnePlus has not released the latest Kernel sources yet. This makes pretty much every kernel not fully functional with the latest 10.0.5 or whatever.
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Lossyx said:
Yes, you'll lose the Kernel.
As I said, just update as you normally would. Once it's done, make sure you're still rooted, and then flash the kernel.
But I'd advise not to update right now, as OnePlus has not released the latest Kernel sources yet. This makes pretty much every kernel not fully functional with the latest 10.0.5 or whatever.
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So i wont face a bootloop? Thanks

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