As the title states, I have an HDX 7 currently sitting with an older firmware and Safestrap 3.70 (TWRP v2.6.3.1).
I haven't touched anything on it since February 2014. My daughter has been using it primarily, but she finally got her own tablet, so I'm reclaiming this one.
Currently, I frequently get a blue screen followed by the tablet rebooting when attempting to watch YouTube videos via the app. Further, I have to uninstall all updates to Google Play for it function at all.
As I recall I also modified some system file to prevent Amazon OTA updates.
I'd like to get this device caught up in terms of current trends. If someone could direct me to my best options and perhaps a guide, I'd really appreciate it. Much of what I'm seeing is for later firmware versions.
Also, if there is a method to retain root and recover the extra storage used by Safestrap, that would be ideal.
Thanks in advance!
PariahNine said:
As the title states, I have an HDX 7 currently sitting with an older firmware and Safestrap 3.70 (TWRP v2.6.3.1).
I haven't touched anything on it since February 2014. My daughter has been using it primarily, but she finally got her own tablet, so I'm reclaiming this one.
Currently, I frequently get a blue screen followed by the tablet rebooting when attempting to watch YouTube videos via the app. Further, I have to uninstall all updates to Google Play for it function at all.
As I recall I also modified some system file to prevent Amazon OTA updates.
I'd like to get this device caught up in terms of current trends. If someone could direct me to my best options and perhaps a guide, I'd really appreciate it. Much of what I'm seeing is for later firmware versions.
Also, if there is a method to retain root and recover the extra storage used by Safestrap, that would be ideal.
Thanks in advance!
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Given your firmware level:
- verify device is still rooted (use towelroot if needed)
- flash twrp recovery
- update bootloader to v3.2.3.2
- unlock bootloader (try 1-click method)
- flash rom of choice (Nexus, CM 11/12/13), SlimLP)
Search through the forums for relevant threads. Ask questions along the way. You have some work ahead (hours) but a nice reward at the other end.
Is there anything special I need to do to remove Safestrap? I forgot to mention I deleted all of the other rom backups on the device and moved the rooted rom to the default slot to free up space. Pretty sure I have the original rom backed up on my desktop. Do I need to revert before doing any of the above?
PariahNine said:
Is there anything special I need to do to remove Safestrap? I forgot to mention I deleted all of the other rom backups on the device and moved the rooted rom to the default slot to free up space. Pretty sure I have the original rom backed up on my desktop. Do I need to revert before doing any of the above?
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Thoughts:
- moving roms between slots (specifically stock) via backup/restore is generally a bad idea in Safestrap; consider yourself lucky if you used this technique
- if the rom in the stock slot (assuming FireOS 13.3.1.0) boots properly then you can safely remove Safestrap v3 via the uninstall option in the apk
- do not wipe anything in Safestrap nor execute a 'factory reset' from the native Kindle recovery menu (bad outcomes)
- keep WiFi off / airplane mode engaged unless you are 100% sure the OTA block is working
- snag a copy of Flashify to install twrp and the 3.2.3 bootloader update
- check MD5 checksums with ES File Explorer or another tool before flashing; especially important for bootloader update!
- backup your existing recovery with Flashify before flashing twrp; leave a copy on the device
- enable USB debugging in Kindle settings (optional but offers additional recovery options should something go wrong)
- flash twrp first and make sure it works (reboot to recovery; have a look around but don't change anything)
- reboot FireOS and then use Flashify to update bootloader. Did I mention you should check MD5?
Post when above tasks are complete or if you have questions. Cover bootloader unlock next. Be aware the above steps carry some risk including permanently bricking the device. Make sure you have a clear understand on what is suppose to happen; double/triple check everything before committing changes. Good luck.
So, I understand everything above other than uninstalling Safestrap via the .apk. Is this accomplished via the original apk I installed Safestrap with, or something separate. Also, will I lose root by uninstalling Safestrap?
Ignore the previous post. I've successfully uninstalled Safestrap and reinstalled TWRP. So far, I've attempted to update the bootloader via both TWRP and Flashify, but it's still showing 13.3.1.0 under the device information\system updates. Could this be due to whatever modification I made a couple years ago to prevent OTA updates?
PariahNine said:
So, I understand everything above other than uninstalling Safestrap via the .apk. Is this accomplished via the original apk I installed Safestrap with, or something separate. Also, will I lose root by uninstalling Safestrap?
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- use the original apk to remove (uninstall) Safestrap v3 recovery; you do not need to uninstall the apk itself
- uninstalling Safestrap will not impact root
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PariahNine said:
Ignore the previous post. I've successfully uninstalled Safestrap and reinstalled TWRP. So far, I've attempted to update the bootloader via both TWRP and Flashify, but it's still showing 13.3.1.0 under the device information\system updates. Could this be due to whatever modification I made a couple years ago to prevent OTA updates?
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The FireOS version number will not change following bootloader update. It is a separate 'component' whose version can not be independently queried or verified. Typically the system (what you see, ie: FireOS) and bootloader are updated together and share the same version identifier. In this instance are only flashing the bookloader update as FireOS will soon be replaced by a different ROM. No need to update it and assume the associated risks.
Ahh, gotcha. Problem I'm having now is getting the bootloader unlocked. I downloaded the 1-click file, ran the batch file, and Virtual Box was installed. Once it finished installing it opened up and showed two instances of 1-click, but then nothing happens in either Virtual Box or the cmd window opened by the batch file. If I double click on either instance of 1-click, the last line says it's loading the kernel, but it stays that indefinitely. I attempted closing out Virtual Box multiple times, reran the batch file, all with the same results, sans the installation of course.
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Ahh, gotcha. Problem I'm having now is getting the bootloader unlocked. I downloaded the 1-click file, ran the batch file, and Virtual Box was installed. Once it finished installing it opened up and showed two instances of 1-click, but then nothing happens in either Virtual Box or the cmd window opened by the batch file. If I double click on either instance of 1-click, the last line says it's loading the kernel, but it stays that indefinitely. I attempted closing out Virtual Box multiple times, reran the batch file, all with the same results, sans the installation of course.
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Hum. Best handled by @draxie who developed 1-click. Generally pretty responsive to forum posts. If 1-click doesn't do it can always try the manual approach (a LOT more involved but not risky). Let's see what shakes out.
This is what I'm getting from the batch cmd window:
VirtualBox does not appear to be installed
Downloading 'https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads' to 'C:\Users\Pariah\Down
loads\1-Click\1-Click\dwnlds'
Download complete.
Downloading 'http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.12/VirtualBox-5.0.12-
104815-Win.exe' to 'C:\Users\Pariah\Downloads\1-Click\1-Click\VirtualBox-5.0.12-
104815-Win.exe'
Download complete.
Launching the VirtualBox installer momentarily
Please complete the installation with USB support enabled
Installation complete.
0%...10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%...100%
Virtual machine '1-Click' is created and registered.
UUID: 6b44be97-c931-47a5-8eeb-b780f5783b78
Settings file: 'C:\Users\Pariah\VirtualBox VMs\1-Click\1-Click.vbox'
VBoxHeadless: supR3HardenedScreenImage/LdrLoadDll: rc=Unknown Status -23021 (0xf
fffa613) fImage=1 fProtect=0x0 fAccess=0x0 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\Syste
m32\acaptuser64.dll: None of the 1 path(s) have a trust anchor.: \Device\Harddis
kVolume2\Windows\System32\acaptuser64.dll
VBoxHeadless: supR3HardenedMonitor_LdrLoadDll: rejecting 'C:\Windows\system32\ac
aptuser64.dll': rcNt=0xc0000190
Oracle VM VirtualBox Headless Interface 5.0.12
(C) 2008-2015 Oracle Corporation
All rights reserved.
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And the 1-click instance in Virtual Box is showing "Booting the kernel."
Here is the method I used to block OTA updates.
Originally Posted by berndt_toast
Yeah, I agree. Staying rooted is difficult, but doable. I am still on the rootable version (13.3.1.0) and have stayed on it even through the OTA updates that have been released. I have stopped them from auto-applying (and from even being seen as updates) by doing the following:
I renamed otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.old in /etc/security/
I also renamed com.amazon.dcp.apk to com.amazon.dcp.apk.old in /system/app/
Doing those prevent OTA updates from working and if you check for updates from the device, it says none are found (at least it has worked for me).
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Do I need to undo this before proceeding with the bootloader update and unlocking?
PariahNine said:
Here is the method I used to block OTA updates.
Do I need to undo this before proceeding with the bootloader update and unlocking?
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No - tasks ahead have no dependence on Amazon's update engine.
10-4. I attempted to find the manual method for unlocking the bootloader with no success. Not sure if I'm looking in the wrong section of the forum, or just overlooking it.
PariahNine said:
10-4. I attempted to find the manual method for unlocking the bootloader with no success. Not sure if I'm looking in the wrong section of the forum, or just overlooking it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...bootloader-unlock-procedure-software-t3030281
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...tools-create-unlock-img-fix-boot-img-t3050689
You're going to need a Linux.
EncryptedCurse said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...bootloader-unlock-procedure-software-t3030281
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...tools-create-unlock-img-fix-boot-img-t3050689
You're going to need a Linux.
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Can be accomplished from Windows but a royal PiTA to get the drivers right. Tough having to hold but you probably want to wait on @draxie unless you are very comfortable with device manager and working around unsigned drivers on Win 8/10.
Davey126 said:
Can be accomplished from Windows but a royal PiTA to get the drivers right. Tough having to hold but you probably want to wait on @draxie unless you are very comfortable with device manager and working around unsigned drivers on Win 8/10.
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I'm actually running Windows 7 64; not sure if that matters. Perhaps why 1-click isn't working?
I'm trying to get Minimal ADB and Fastboot to work, but while my HDX is being detected while booted into the OS or TWRP, it's not in Fastboot mode for whatever reason. I've cleared out the old ADB drivers and reloaded them after plugging the HDX into a USB while in Fastboot mode, and still nothing. It's not showing up under 'adb devices' or 'adb fasboot'.
PariahNine said:
I'm actually running Windows 7 64; not sure if that matters. Perhaps why 1-click isn't working?
I'm trying to get Minimal ADB and Fastboot to work, but while my HDX is being detected while booted into the OS or TWRP, it's not in Fastboot mode for whatever reason. I've cleared out the old ADB drivers and reloaded them after plugging the HDX into a USB while in Fastboot mode, and still nothing. It's not showing up under 'adb devices' or 'adb fasboot'.
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Yup - that's the driver issue I referenced. Recommend waiting for response from 1-click developer before diving in. Win 7 x64 not an issue.
Davey126 said:
Can be accomplished from Windows but a royal PiTA to get the drivers right. Tough having to hold but you probably want to wait on @draxie unless you are very comfortable with device manager and working around unsigned drivers on Win 8/10.
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PariahNine said:
I'm actually running Windows 7 64; not sure if that matters. Perhaps why 1-click isn't working?
I'm trying to get Minimal ADB and Fastboot to work, but while my HDX is being detected while booted into the OS or TWRP, it's not in Fastboot mode for whatever reason. I've cleared out the old ADB drivers and reloaded them after plugging the HDX into a USB while in Fastboot mode, and still nothing. It's not showing up under 'adb devices' or 'adb fasboot'.
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Davey126 said:
Yup - that's the driver issue I referenced. Recommend waiting for response from 1-click developer before diving in. Win 7 x64 not an issue.
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If you want to give manual unlocking a try:
- use these drivers; you likely need to reinstall when flipping between adb and fastboot
- detail procedure
- suggest browsing this thread for additional info/tips. Lots of noise but some diamonds in the rough too
- careful not to go down a rabbit hole; some solutions are one offs that worked great for the poster due to their familiarity with a particular too, platform or technique
- unlike almost everything else with HDX you can not harm your device with bootloader unlock attempts. It will either work or not with no adverse consequences either way
There are a few excellent posts by @Cl4ncy, @jerryl and others (possibly one of mine) in different threads; unfortunately I wasn't able to surface them in a quick search. Nature of the HDX forums. A gold mine if information that is a bxxtch to access.
Before diving in you may want to flash CM11 or Nexus v4 which can be done with a locked bootloader. Both are rock solid KitKat based roms that will expose the full capabilities of your device and offer continuity to CM13 once unlocked.
Good luck.
First off, I wanna extend a heartfelt thank you to @Davey126 for basically holding my hand through much of the process, and @EncryptedCurse for offering insight as well; folks like you are the reason I've been apart of this community for several years and always come to first when I'm looking for solutions revolving around Android products.
Secondly, I'd like to share a couple of my experiences as a novice that may have others in the future. For whatever reason, I couldn't get 1-click to work on either of my Windows 7 machines with two totally different installations; one being Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, and the other being Windows Home Premium 32-bit. Ultimately I ended up upgrading my system to Windows 10 and was able to unlock the bootloader without any difficulty at all. With the fresh upgrade to Windows 10, I simply uninstalled VirtualBox and reran the 1-click batch file. One thing that should be noted is that there's no reason to click the box to run VirtualBox at the end of the installation process, and may be something that contributed to my confusion and the confusion of others. Secondly, a window for PuttyTel should open up after VirtualBox is finished installing, and the PuttyTel window is where all of the "magic" takes place. I didn't find any of these distinctions in any of the numerous posts I scoured through, though I may have overlooked them.
Either way, thanks again to the three of you... now I just gotta figure out which ROM I'm gonna slap on this bad boy. Been waiting nearly 2 years for this moment.
PariahNine said:
First off, I wanna extend a heartfelt thank you to @Davey126 for basically holding my hand through much of the process, and @EncryptedCurse for offering insight as well; folks like you are the reason I've been apart of this community for several years and always come to first when I'm looking for solutions revolving around Android products.
Secondly, I'd like to share a couple of my experiences as a novice that may have others in the future. For whatever reason, I couldn't get 1-click to work on either of my Windows 7 machines with two totally different installations; one being Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, and the other being Windows Home Premium 32-bit. Ultimately I ended up upgrading my system to Windows 10 and was able to unlock the bootloader without any difficulty at all. With the fresh upgrade to Windows 10, I simply uninstalled VirtualBox and reran the 1-click batch file. One thing that should be noted is that there's no reason to click the box to run VirtualBox at the end of the installation process, and may be something that contributed to my confusion and the confusion of others. Secondly, a window for PuttyTel should open up after VirtualBox is finished installing, and the PuttyTel window is where all of the "magic" takes place. I didn't find any of these distinctions in any of the numerous posts I scoured through, though I may have overlooked them.
Either way, thanks again to the three of you... now I just gotta figure out which ROM I'm gonna slap on this bad boy. Been waiting nearly 2 years for this moment.
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Happy to hear you were sucesfull. Thanks also for sharing your experiences and insights. Should be helpful to others as they navigate through the process. Every nugget of new information helps!
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I need to get my phone back to the original stock Android since Cyanogenmod wrecked it by disabling the phone dialing keys, but I can't because fastboot isn't working. What do I do? Apart from the number keys not working, everything else on the phone is fine.
I've spent 15 hours on this so far and if it doesn't get solved I have to throw my phone in the trash. I've read every word and gone through every step of the how-tos linked below, over and over and over and over.
In the command prompt my commands and responses are:
fastboot devices -> 'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file
fastboot-windows devices -> nothing happens
fastboot-windows oem unlock -> <waiting for device>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2010312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/tutorial-nexus-4-update-to-4-4-kitkat-t2534160
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...s-4-factory-image-restore-13.html#post3938684
Nexus 4
CyanogenMod 11.0 installer xnpq32p
Android 4.4.4
Do you HAVE fastboot on your computer and are in the correct directory to run the commands? Are you in the right mode on the phone? Check the Device Manager for driver errors?
But why not just update CM? There's obviously something that went wrong there because certainly CM doesn't usually have issues with the Dialer. Or just flash a stock rom in recovery.
es0tericcha0s said:
Do you HAVE fastboot on your computer and are in the correct directory to run the commands? Are you in the right mode on the phone? Check the Device Manager for driver errors?
But why not just update CM? There's obviously something that went wrong there because certainly CM doesn't usually have issues with the Dialer. Or just flash a stock rom in recovery.
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Yes I had the tool.
Took half a day but I finally found Minimal ADB and Fastboot tool. Fortunately I sensed that everything must to be saved and extracted into one single folder, and the tool installed there - which the step-by-step guides either omit to mention or are vague about.
The dialer problem happened immediately upon installing CM, for the first time, the other day. So that was the latest version. Others have reported the same problem in the past and no one at CM replied. I'm leaving the country on a long trip and can't play with this any longer. I need a completely 100% working phone immediately.
If I had known that a so-called 'factory reset' does nothing of the kind, and getting back to stock is a such massive undertaking, I never would have considered messing with this.
fbtsrg said:
Yes I had the tool.
Took half a day but I finally found Minimal ADB and Fastboot tool. Fortunately I sensed that everything must to be saved and extracted into one single folder, and the tool installed there - which the step-by-step guides either omit to mention or are vague about.
The dialer problem happened immediately upon installing CM, for the first time, the other day. So that was the latest version. Others have reported the same problem in the past and no one at CM replied. I'm leaving the country on a long trip and can't play with this any longer. I need a completely 100% working phone immediately.
If I had known that a so-called 'factory reset' does nothing of the kind, and getting back to stock is a such massive undertaking, I never would have considered messing with this.
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It's a factory DATA reset, not a restore your operating system option. It works exactly as it should, by removing user data and settings.
But for future reference, this is why you do a backup in recovery - so you can switch back in time of want or need.
times usbeae
es0tericcha0s said:
But for future reference, this is why you do a backup in recovery - so you can switch back in time of want or need.
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- What do you mean by "backup in recovery"? What is that, and where is it?
- What do you mean by "switch back"? Switch back to what? The original state precisely as it was when I opened the box? Because ideally - if I ever root again - that is what I would like to be able to do in a simpler way than removing a bunch of drivers then installing new ones then enabling and disabling and re-enabling USB debugging then running ADB and fastboot and typing commands.
I guess I'm not clear on how it's possible to install Cynanogenmod by downloading an installer, click on two or three things, bam you're done - whereas removing it is an order of magnitude more complicated.
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- What do you mean by "backup in recovery"? What is that, and where is it?
- What do you mean by "switch back"? Switch back to what? The original state precisely as it was when I opened the box? Because ideally - if I ever root again - that is what I would like to be able to do in a simpler way than removing a bunch of drivers then installing new ones then enabling and disabling and re-enabling USB debugging then running ADB and fastboot and typing commands.
I guess I'm not clear on how it's possible to install Cynanogenmod by downloading an installer, click on two or three things, bam you're done - whereas removing it is an order of magnitude more complicated.
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Well I would never have reason to use an installer (I prefer the "old school" manual methods) but CM couldn't install without a custom recovery, so not really sure how you don't know about that...? You can get to recovery from the bootloader screen accessed while off from Power + Vol Down for a few seconds. In recovery you can flash another rom or a stock based one. If you are S-On, you still need to fastboot flash the boot.img though. Have you checked your Device Manager for driver errors? I never have luck with this vintage of HTCs in fastboot on my Win 8.1 PC. I never have issues in Win 7 though. I actually keep a POS WIn 7 PC around just to work on HTCs.
So yea, the installer is helpful in making it simple to install, however, since you went the "easy" route, it seems like you missed out on a lot of reason to read through some threads and get some idea on what exactly you're doing and what's been done to the phone. It's best to walk before you run.
This thread may help you with your fastboot issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277112
a stock android ROM (recommendations?)?
I've searched, but not found anything that can handily take me from having a rooted 14.3.2.6 HDx 8.9 (Apollo, right?) to a ROM. There's so much confusion about downgrading to an earlier version (for what?), having/not having safestrap, having TWRP, etc.
Anyone got a place where I can simply follow a 1-2-3 guide to go from root to ROM? Thanks!
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a stock android ROM (recommendations?)?
I've searched, but not found anything that can handily take me from having a rooted 14.3.2.6 HDx 8.9 (Apollo, right?) to a ROM. There's so much confusion about downgrading to an earlier version (for what?), having/not having safestrap, having TWRP, etc.
Anyone got a place where I can simply follow a 1-2-3 guide to go from root to ROM? Thanks!
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There are no 1-2-3 guides. However, the steps required are not complicated but do require carefully reading and attention to detail. As you are probably aware Kindles in general and HDX models in particular are easy to 'brick' with limited/no recovery options. Many folks have killed their device with a simple mistake. Stakes are high with an Apollo given the device's value. Think hard before moving forward; even if you do everything right you can end up with an expensive paperweight. If you're an 'android expert' be aware many recovery techniques used on other devices simply will not work on an HDX. Fastboot cables are useless.
Preliminary questions:
- have you blocked OTA (if so via which method) or otherwise taken steps to isolate your device from automatic updates?
- do you have safestrap or Xposed Framework installed?
- have you enabled adb?
Davey126 said:
There are no 1-2-3 guides. However, the steps required are not complicated but do require carefully reading and attention to detail. As you are probably aware Kindles in general and HDX models in particular are easy to 'brick' with limited/no recovery options. Many folks have killed their device with a simple mistake. Stakes are high with an Apollo given the device's value. Think hard before moving forward; even if you do everything right you can end up with an expensive paperweight. If you're an 'android expert' be aware many recovery techniques used on other devices simply will not work on an HDX. Fastboot cables are useless.
Preliminary questions:
- have you blocked OTA (if so via which method) or otherwise taken steps to isolate your device from automatic updates?
- do you have safestrap or Xposed Framework installed?
- have you enabled adb?
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Hi,
thanks for the response; I understand 100%.
I have blocked OTA (but weirdly keep getting "kindle is upgrading" messages every time I restart my Kindle)
I have Xposed Framework installed
ADB is enabled.
On another note, I've installed the four Gapps APKs, but my google play store won't work. Any idea why? When I install them, the play store opens and displays apps just fine, but won't download them. I reboot, and when I do I get "Google play store has stopped" and "Google play services has stopped working" messages, and Google Play crashes instantly.
I can't figure out why. Any idea? Apologies for bombarding you with queries.
Your play store issue is probably Google play services. Download version .99 from the internet or the general thread.
As for your next steps.
It depends on how involved you want to go.
You can use safestrap and run the nexus Rom. Some people feel that is less risky because you are not modifying the system as much or recovery at all. However, if something goes wrong, you have almost no way to fix it (it is possible to brick with safestrap).
Or,
Downgrade to 2.3.2 (you have to do this because the 2.6 bootloader will not load any other recoveries or roms. Then put twrp on and use cm11 or similar. This gives you a working recovery to fix some issues which could go wrong.
Finally, you could rollback and unlock your bootloader. If you do that, it is the most involved, and a little risky. However, if you succeed. You will be able to put more rooms on it and this gives you the most options to recover from an error.
Many people are playing with cm12 after this.
It all depends on how you are willing to take your risks. It will all require a lot of reading on the forums.
Good luck.
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Hi,thanks for the response; I understand 100%.
I have blocked OTA (but weirdly keep getting "kindle is upgrading" messages every time I restart my Kindle)
I have Xposed Framework installed
ADB is enabled.
On another note, I've installed the four Gapps APKs, but my google play store won't work. Any idea why? When I install them, the play store opens and displays apps just fine, but won't download them. I reboot, and when I do I get "Google play store has stopped" and "Google play services has stopped working" messages, and Google Play crashes instantly.
I can't figure out why. Any idea? Apologies for bombarding you with queries.
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You need to clean up your device before going further. Yes, some folks have successfully rolled back with baggage in tow. With limited data points my observation is previously unsurfaced add-ons and tweaks (usually revealed only after someone fubars their device) are contributors to unfavorable outcomes. Take that for what it's worth.
Recommendations:
- Identify and discard the update file that is triggering the "Kindle is upgrading" message. Best guess is a 14.x upgrade that can't progress due to OTA block. You are looking for a large (500 MB+ file) .bin file with a name similar to "update-kindle-14.4.5.3_user_453011120.bin". Reboot to make sure the upgrade message goes away.
- Tether your device. Download HDX Toolkit to a Windows box and make sure it can see your Kindle. Don't take any actions other than confirming root.
- Disable wifi and delete all existing wireless profiles. Then remove the existing OTA blocker reversing whatever technique was previously used.
- Use HDX toolkit to block OTA (this is the only method I trust for Fire OS 3.0.x-3.2.x)
- Uninstall Xposed framework and all associated modules (module portion isn't technically necessary as they won't run with framework disabled)
- Remove play store, services, framework (via services) and all Google apks. Reboot to make sure your device is 'clean'. You should still have root, of course.
- Come clean on any other tweaks previously made including modifications to build.prop, failed root attempts, safestrap, etc. Anything that deviates from stock.
Post back when complete. I'll then help you through the roll back process and installation of twrp. From there you can install Nexus (excellent, stable rom but Jellybean based) or CM11 (KitKat). Save bootloader unlocking for another day.
Davey126 said:
You need to clean up your device before going further. Yes, some folks have successfully rolled back with baggage in tow. With limited data points my observation is previously unsurfaced add-ons and tweaks (usually revealed only after someone fubars their device) are contributors to unfavorable outcomes. Take that for what it's worth.
Recommendations:
- Identify and discard the update file that is triggering the "Kindle is upgrading" message. Best guess is a 14.x upgrade that can't progress due to OTA block. You are looking for a large (500 MB+ file) .bin file with a name similar to "update-kindle-14.4.5.3_user_453011120.bin". Reboot to make sure the upgrade message goes away.
- Tether your device. Download HDX Toolkit to a Windows box and make sure it can see your Kindle. Don't take any actions other than confirming root.
- Disable wifi and delete all existing wireless profiles. Then remove the existing OTA blocker reversing whatever technique was previously used.
- Use HDX toolkit to block OTA (this is the only method I trust for Fire OS 3.0.x-3.2.x)
- Uninstall Xposed framework and all associated modules (module portion isn't technically necessary as they won't run with framework disabled)
- Remove play store, services, framework (via services) and all Google apks. Reboot to make sure your device is 'clean'. You should still have root, of course.
- Come clean on any other tweaks previously made including modifications to build.prop, failed root attempts, safestrap, etc. Anything that deviates from stock.
Post back when complete. I'll then help you through the roll back process and installation of twrp. From there you can install Nexus (excellent, stable rom but Jellybean based) or CM11 (KitKat). Save bootloader unlocking for another day.
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I can't find anything resembling that type of file name, after doing a ES file explorer search. I also tried ordering by size and going through folders and files, but still couldn't find anything.
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I can't find anything resembling that type of file name, after doing a ES file explorer search. I also tried ordering by size and going through folders and files, but still couldn't find anything.
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Don't have an immediate explanation but suggests something is amiss that could muck-up roll back efforts. It could be OTA is only partially blocked so your Kindle sees there is an update but can't download or process it. Do you know what method was used to block updates?
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Don't have an immediate explanation but suggests something is amiss that could muck-up roll back efforts. It could be OTA is only partially blocked so your Kindle sees there is an update but can't download or process it. Do you know what method was used to block updates?
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Yeah, I used the KFHDX Toolkit 0.95, and once I'd installed Xposed Framework, I installed the HDXposed module, which also blocks OTA updates.
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Yeah, I used the KFHDX Toolkit 0.95, and once I'd installed Xposed Framework, I installed the HDXposed module, which also blocks OTA updates.
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HDXposed is likely part of the problem. Uninstall that (make sure wifi is off), reboot then reapply the OTA blocker integrated into KFHDX Toolkit 0.95. Reboot again and see if update message goes away. Might not if a bit got set somewhere indicating that an update is available. That in itself shouldn't be an issue unless information about the update version is also stored (don't believe it is).
Disclaimer: Anytime you muck with OTA blocking there is a chance it won't get set properly resulting in an unwanted update when wifi is restored. Recently this has been the case with renaming the otacerts file...at least on some versions of Fire OS. That said, I have yet to have the OTA blocker in KFHDX Toolkit fail. Once you ditch Fire OS this worry goes away.
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HDXposed is likely part of the problem. Uninstall that (make sure wifi is off), reboot then reapply the OTA blocker integrated into KFHDX Toolkit 0.95. Reboot again and see if update message goes away. Might not if a bit got set somewhere indicating that an update is available. That in itself shouldn't be an issue unless information about the update version is also stored (don't believe it is).
Disclaimer: Anytime you muck with OTA blocking there is a chance it won't get set properly resulting in an unwanted update when wifi is restored. Recently this has been the case with renaming the otacerts file...at least on some versions of Fire OS. That said, I have yet to have the OTA blocker in KFHDX Toolkit fail. Once you ditch Fire OS this worry goes away.
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Tried that; deactivated HDXposed, reboot. Enabled OTA, then re-disabled it, and rebooted again. Message still pops up briefly.
Should I continue with the steps you've listed above?
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Tried that; deactivated HDXposed, reboot. Enabled OTA, then re-disabled it, and rebooted again. Message still pops up briefly.
Should I continue with the steps you've listed above?
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Yes - still need to prep the device. I'll be out-of-pocket for the next 8-10 hours; will look for an update then.
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Yes - still need to prep the device. I'll be out-of-pocket for the next 8-10 hours; will look for an update then.
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Okay, I'll complete the list of things you've recommended; again, thanks for your help so far. Really appreciate it.
Edit: All Google apps/APKs removed, Xposed Framework's gone also. Rebooted and clean as stock (apart from root, of course), and zero custom apps apart from SuperSU and towelroot; interestingly, after reboot, there's no 'upgrading' message. So seems that's also disappeared.
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Okay, I'll complete the list of things you've recommended; again, thanks for your help so far. Really appreciate it.
Edit: All Google apps/APKs removed, Xposed Framework's gone also. Rebooted and clean as stock (apart from root, of course), and zero custom apps apart from SuperSU and towelroot; interestingly, after reboot, there's no 'upgrading' message. So seems that's also disappeared.
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Have a look here for next steps. You are following instructions for 3.2.5-3.2.6 which is at the bottom of the post shaded in grey. To be clear you do not need to modify build.prop (if anything suggests that and/or installing Safestrap you're in the wrong section). You can get everything ready following the post and move forward if you feel comfortable. Remember you will need to reroot and block OTA once the rollback completes; use HDX toolkit for both. An outline of further actions can be found here.
Ok - now i really do have to go ...
Davey126 said:
Have a look here for next steps. You are following instructions for 3.2.5-3.2.6 which is at the bottom of the post shaded in grey. To be clear you do not need to modify build.prop (if anything suggests that and/or installing Safestrap you're in the wrong section). You can get everything ready following the post and move forward if you feel comfortable. Remember you will need to reroot and block OTA once the rollback completes; use HDX toolkit for both. An outline of further actions can be found here.
Ok - now i really do have to go ...
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Haha thanks; I have the update file downloaded, but getting suspicious about the update.prop file download link. Got phishing warnings and malicious warnings all over the place. May wait and see what you say once you're back.
Edit: Did some research; was clicking the wrong damn button. For anyone who comes across this, click the BLUE 'download now' button. I was clicking the green (read: advert) button. I've rolled my update back all fine; one question.
The update file says: 14.3.1.0, yet my Kindle firmward says 14.3.0.0. Is that supposed to be like that? Anyhow, I'm rerooted, OTA updates blocked. I think I'm going to wait to proceed with the next part. Thanks again (so far)!
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Haha thanks; I have the update file downloaded, but getting suspicious about the update.prop file download link. Got phishing warnings and malicious warnings all over the place. May wait and see what you say once you're back.
Edit: Did some research; was clicking the wrong damn button. For anyone who comes across this, click the BLUE 'download now' button. I was clicking the green (read: advert) button. I've rolled my update back all fine; one question.
The update file says: 14.3.1.0, yet my Kindle firmward says 14.3.0.0. Is that supposed to be like that? Anyhow, I'm rerooted, OTA updates blocked. I think I'm going to wait to proceed with the next part. Thanks again (so far)!
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Not sure the rollback completed successfully. It is normal for your Kindle to report 14.3.0.0 just after executing the batch file. Fire OS normally won't downgrade so the script 'tricks' the system into thinking it's at 14.3.0.0. Your device then sees the 14.3.1.0 file as an update and processes it. You are essentially leveraging Amazon's update process to execute a rollback.
I'm guessing your forgot to transfer the bin file to your device after executing the upgrade script. If accurate your Kindle is in a someone dangerous state. You'll want to disable OTA blocking, copy the bin file to 'internal storage' and then check for updates via Fire OS settings. It may take a few minutes for your Kindle to recognize the update file. Also note the original bin file needed to reside in the same windows directory as the batch file when it was executed.
Side note: We are experiencing a rare power outage in my area. I'm penning this from a secondary system. Won't be staying on long to conserve battery. Will check for updates once power is restored.
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Not sure the rollback completed successfully. It is normal for your Kindle to report 14.3.0.0 just after executing the batch file. Fire OS normally won't downgrade so the script 'tricks' the system into thinking it's at 14.3.0.0. Your device then sees the 14.3.1.0 file as an update and processes it. You are essentially leveraging Amazon's update process to execute a rollback.
I'm guessing your forgot to transfer the bin file to your device after executing the upgrade script. If accurate your Kindle is in a someone dangerous state. You'll want to disable OTA blocking, copy the bin file to 'internal storage' and then check for updates via Fire OS settings. It may take a few minutes for your Kindle to recognize the update file. Also note the original bin file needed to reside in the same windows directory as the batch file when it was executed.
Side note: We are experiencing a rare power outage in my area. I'm penning this from a secondary system. Won't be staying on long to conserve battery. Will check for updates once power is restored.
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Hey Davey,
hope your power problems get sorted soon. As for the update, I did in fact pull the file both into the "rollback89v2" folder (containing the install.bat) and into the 'internal storage' area of the kindle, so should be no problem there. Got up this morning, headed to the 'Device' section to find my Kindle says 'update available'.
Bear in mind that OTA is disabled, and I've not enabled my WiFi since I began the process yesterday, so there should be ZERO chance of that being a normal OTA; I'm guessing it's the 'update' to 14.3.1.0?
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Hey Davey,
hope your power problems get sorted soon. As for the update, I did in fact pull the file both into the "rollback89v2" folder (containing the install.bat) and into the 'internal storage' area of the kindle, so should be no problem there. Got up this morning, headed to the 'Device' section to find my Kindle says 'update available'.
Bear in mind that OTA is disabled, and I've not enabled my WiFi since I began the process yesterday, so there should be ZERO chance of that being a normal OTA; I'm guessing it's the 'update' to 14.3.1.0?
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Sorry for the delay. Yes, accept the update if you have not done so already. You will probably need to re-enable OTA (keep wifi off) for processing to complete. After reboot the device should report it's on 14.3.1. You can then reroot and block OTA via HDX toolkit.
Next step is to install twrp. If you are comfortable issuing adb commands you can use the method outlined here which is also where you grap the custom apk. Alternatively, sideload flashify (here or elsewhere; copy apk via tether). I recommend the latter as flashify simplifies future efforts and contains some nice backup/recovery features.
Test twrp by powering down your device then restarting by pressing power + vol-up. Release the power button when the grey Kindle logo appears. Release the volume button a few seconds later. You should eventually enter the twrp environment. Familiarize yourself with the options but don't take any actions. When complete hit the reboot button from the main screen (lower right corner).
Then update your bootloader to 3.2.3.2. This is listed as a prerequisite for twrp but the order is not important provided both get done. Personally I prefer to get twrp installed early in the sequence as it offers vastly improved recovery options should something go wrong. You can flash the updated bootloader from twrp or flashify.
Once this is done you are ready for a custom rom! Post when complete and I will briefly outline your options.
As always, think through each step before proceeding. Make sure you have the right files. Verify MD5s once copied to your device (I use Hash Droid). Installing twrp and the bootloader update involve flashing code directly to your device. A mistake can be non-recoverable.
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Sorry for the delay. Yes, accept the update if you have not done so already. You will probably need to re-enable OTA (keep wifi off) for processing to complete. After reboot the device should report it's on 14.3.1. You can then reroot and block OTA via HDX toolkit.
Next step is to install twrp. If you are comfortable issuing adb commands you can use the method outlined here which is also where you grap the custom apk. Alternatively, sideload flashify (here or elsewhere; copy apk via tether). I recommend the latter as flashify simplifies future efforts and contains some nice backup/recovery features.
Test twrp by powering down your device then restarting by pressing power + vol-up. Release the power button when the grey Kindle logo appears. Release the volume button a few seconds later. You should eventually enter the twrp environment. Familiarize yourself with the options but don't take any actions. When complete hit the reboot button from the main screen (lower right corner).
Then update your bootloader to 3.2.3.2. This is listed as a prerequisite for twrp but the order is not important provided both get done. Personally I prefer to get twrp installed early in the sequence as it offers vastly improved recovery options should something go wrong. You can flash the updated bootloader from twrp or flashify.
Once this is done you are ready for a custom rom! Post when complete and I will briefly outline your options.
As always, think through each step before proceeding. Make sure you have the right files. Verify MD5s once copied to your device (I use Hash Droid). Installing twrp and the bootloader update involve flashing code directly to your device. A mistake can be non-recoverable.
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Having issues with the first part. I have 'update failed'. I keep trying wifi on/OTA disabled, OTA enabled/Wifi disabled. Sometimes I get 'update now', but having trouble. It wants OTA and Wifi enabled. Any workaround?
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Having issues with the first part. I have 'update failed'. I keep trying wifi on/OTA disabled, OTA enabled/Wifi disabled. Sometimes I get 'update now', but having trouble. It wants OTA and Wifi enabled. Any workaround?
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Suggestions (in priority order):
- remove all existing wifi profiles (so your device can't connect), move away from open hotspots, enable wifi and retry. Some report this solves the problem.
- if above fails shut down device and boot into recovery via power + vol-up. From there perform a factory reset. Then see if the update takes.
There is a small risk of crashing your device with the second method. I used to recommend against it but others report it is a necessary step. Suspect it depends on how OTA has been disabled in the past. Factory resets only cause problems if your device has unusual mods that prevent the reset from fully completing.
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Suggestions (in priority order):
- remove all existing wifi profiles (so your device can't connect), move away from open hotspots, enable wifi and retry. Some report this solves the problem.
- if above fails shut down device and boot into recovery via power + vol-up. From there perform a factory reset. Then see if the update takes.
There is a small risk of crashing your device with the second method. I used to recommend against it but others report it is a necessary step. Suspect it depends on how OTA has been disabled in the past. Factory resets only cause problems if your device has unusual mods that prevent the reset from fully completing.
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First option worked. Right, I side-loaded flashify. I'm guessing Im choosing the recovery image option, which then asks me to choose a recovery option; I choose TWRP, which then takes me to a device option. I don't see HDX 8.9 anywhere there. Which device am I choosing?
Edit: Scratch that; figured out what I had to do. Right, everything is done. TWRP's installed and working fine; bootloader is installed (though I don't know how to check it installed correctly). I think I'm ready for ROMs unless there are more checks to do?
Second edit: After some research, I think I've decided on CM11 (That's KitKat, right?). It seems that everything works on that; wifi works nicely, the Kindle app works nicely (had a HD7 that had issues after I flashed an Android ROM), even the camera works nicely. Just need a clear guide on how to flash it, so will wait for you to come back. It's things like "do I wipe dalvik cache, etc" that I'm confused about also. I'd rather not mess it up on the last hurdle trying to rush into it.
To specify, I'm looking at this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...rom-cm-11-20150228-unofficial-apollo-t3042776
Does it come pre-installed with gapps or no? Can't quite figure that out, since some ROMs specifically mention that they have gapps already loaded in.
Thanks.
Hey guys ive got a hdx 7' RUNNING FIRE OS 3.2.4 everything i have been reading is saying that this version is somewhat unique in that there are a few roms availible mostly from safestrapp but most are not, twrp requires 3.2.3 and earlier as well as the bootloader unlock procedure. Can anyone point me in the direction on how to downgrade to one of the earlier versions. Currently i am rooted, ota disabled via: hdxtookit, i had safestrapp and a asop rom installed but was getting google play services stopped working error messages and restored to factory because i havent used the kindle in a year. Anyways i'm looking to get back into it and got cm 12.1 on my sgs3 and wanted to get something similar but keep runninginto problems with my version fire os. So just need a quick link to a roll back procedure in english and i should be able to do the rest from unlock - twrp - roms etc. I've been searching off and on the past few weeks but do not find anything definitive so i decided to finally ask to get an answer thanks for any and all help.
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So basicaly for unlock BL and real TWRP you need have FW between x.3.1.0 and x.3.2.3:
Depending on your computer skills rollback can be achieved easy (or not).
Guide in english? Here, but you must mess with build.prop and on hdx especialy its really dangerous procedure - if you made simple mistake, it could be your last with that device and deadly for it for sure.
Sorry, I will not guide you through the process, if you feel you are lost, you can ask davey126 for help, but he answered this type of question soo many times . . . you can try read his posts before you ask him, there is high posibility he answered it somewhere...
jeryll said:
So basicaly for unlock BL and real TWRP you need have FW between x.3.1.0 and x.3.2.3:
Depending on your computer skills rollback can be achieved easy (or not).
Guide in english? Here, but you must mess with build.prop and on hdx especialy its really dangerous procedure - if you made simple mistake, it could be your last with that device and deadly for it for sure.
Sorry, I will not guide you through the process, if you feel you are lost, you can ask davey126 for help, but he answered this type of question soo many times . . . you can try read his posts before you ask him, there is high posibility he answered it somewhere...
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@jeryll is spot on. There are a ton of helpful posts from a variety of authors that could get you started. This one comes to mind although there are many others. Lots of folks here are happy to answer targeted questions but you have to do your homework first. Read (and read some more), go slow, stop and post a question if unsure, don't take chances. Good luck.
Random thoughts:
- I strongly encourage upgrading to 13.3.2.5 or 13.3.2.6 prior to rolling back to 13.3.1.0. Lower risk and clears out 'crud' that could ruin your day.
- Use HDX toolkit to block/unblock OTA. Don't mess with any other technique; bad day follows.
- Once OTA is unblocked stay off WiFi. Period. Do transfer/installs via tether. Belt-and-suspenders types engage airplane mode and delete existing WiFi profiles too.
- Double check every action before executing. Stop and ask questions if unsure. Juggling babies is safer than taking a wrong turn (ok ... maybe that's a bit extreme).
- Many guides suggest bootloader unlocking before installing TWRP recovery. My comfort meter goes the opposite way. Your call. There are decent arguments for both approaches.
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@jeryll is spot on. There are a ton of helpful posts from a variety of authors that could get you started. This one comes to mind although there are many others. Lots of folks here are happy to answer targeted questions but you have to do your homework first. Read (and read some more), go slow, stop and post a question if unsure, don't take chances. Good luck.
Random thoughts:
- I strongly encourage upgrading to 13.3.2.5 or 13.3.2.6 prior to rolling back to 13.3.1.0. Lower risk and clears out 'crud' that could ruin your day.
- Use HDX toolkit to block/unblock OTA. Don't mess with any other technique; bad day follows.
- Once OTA is unblocked stay off WiFi. Period. Do transfer/installs via tether. Belt-and-suspenders types engage airplane mode and delete existing WiFi profiles too.
- Double check every action before executing. Stop and ask questions if unsure. Juggling babies is safer than taking a wrong turn (ok ... maybe that's a bit extreme).
- Many guides suggest bootloader unlocking before installing TWRP recovery. My comfort meter goes the opposite way. Your call. There are decent arguments for both approaches.
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How can I upgrade to 3.2.5 or 6. I believe I blocked ota it's been so lo.g ago I searched.for.the files and didn't see them anywhere so I assume it's still active even after factory restoration. And it's possible to twrp without unlocked boot loader? I didn't know that. What are the pros and cons. I'm not a dev so I went need to play around with much just want to rid of fire os and use a cm or nexus. If I can do that safety id LOVE that but still willing to try the adk route. Thanks for the info guys.
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How can I upgrade to 3.2.5 or 6. I believe I blocked ota it's been so lo.g ago I searched.for.the files and didn't see them anywhere so I assume it's still active even after factory restoration. And it's possible to twrp without unlocked boot loader? I didn't know that. What are the pros and cons. I'm not a dev so I went need to play around with much just want to rid of fire os and use a cm or nexus. If I can do that safety id LOVE that but still willing to try the adk route. Thanks for the info guys.
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Locate HDX toolkit in the Android Development thread and try to remove the OTA block that way. Keep WiFi off or you might receive an unwanted update.
Although not recommended twrp can be installed with a locked bootloader.
Travelling this week so can't get into more detail. Suggest you keep reading. Don't do stuff unless you are absolutely confident in your skills, knowledge, risks and expected outcome(s). Post questions. Many folks willing to help if you have done your homework. Sorry for brevity ...
Yes, be ESPECIALLY careful with build.prop. I learned this the hard way. They is nothing like Odin for Samsung that can save you.
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Yes, be ESPECIALLY careful with build.prop. I learned this the hard way. They is nothing like Odin for Samsung that can save you.
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The path I am suggesting does not involve modifying build.prop.
Can't he just use the rollback Images provided by ggow?
Must stay on 3.2.4. then though.
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Can't he just use the rollback Images provided by ggow?
Must stay on 3.2.4. then though.
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Nice finding, I absolutely forgot that this existed, of course he can use that thread with rollback images to downgrade to x.3.1.0! Then he can install TWRP etc... (as I did in the past - proof below )
jeryll said:
Thank you sir, successfully rolled back to 14.3.1.0, installed TWRP 2.8.1.0 and now I will play a little with TWRP
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Can't he just use the rollback Images provided by ggow?
Must stay on 3.2.4. then though.
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Nice find! I had seen that post (long ago) but the significance never set in for Safestrap v3 users with FireOS xx.3.2.4 in the stock slot. Even if not rocking SS it is probably easier (and definitely a lot safer) to install SS vs rolling up just to roll back or messing with build.prop.
The OTA block could still be a problem as the @ggow's procedure still involves Amazon's native update mechanism.
Edit: Disregard OTA comment as modified 3.2.4 goes on first and should restore OTA capability (more importantly the ability to detect and process FireOS bin files in the appropriate location).
I upgraded from 13.3.2.4 to 13.3.2.5 and edited build.prop, so now my version shows 13.3.0.9. I downloaded 13.3.1.0 rom from Amazon server. When updating I always received the following error message "Unable to complete update because the update file is not valid. Please try downloading the file again" (I tried downloading 13.3.1.0 at least 5 times, but none of the downloaded file works). I suspect that something goes wrong with the rom file on Amazon server.
Anybody can help direct me to a non-amazon site or upload your working file to somewhere I can download from?
Thank you very much.
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Nice find! I had seen that post (long ago) but the significance never set in for Safestrap v3 users with FireOS xx.3.2.4 in the stock slot. Even if not rocking SS it is probably easier (and definitely a lot safer) to install SS vs rolling up just to roll back or messing with build.prop.
The OTA block could still be a problem as the @ggow's procedure still involves Amazon's native update mechanism.
Edit: Disregard OTA comment as modified 3.2.4 goes on first and should restore OTA capability (more importantly the ability to detect and process FireOS bin files in the appropriate location).
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I upgraded from 13.3.2.4 to 13.3.2.5 and edited build.prop, so now my version shows 13.3.0.9. I downloaded 13.3.1.0 rom from Amazon server. When updating I always received the following error message "Unable to complete update because the update file is not valid. Please try downloading the file again" (I tried downloading 13.3.1.0 at least 5 times, but none of the downloaded file works). I suspect that something goes wrong with the rom file on Amazon server.
Anybody can help direct me to a non-amazon site or upload your working file to somewhere I can download from?
Thank you very much.
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AFAIK after upgrading to x.3.2.5(or 6) you cant use downgrading via editing build.prop anymore (thanks to Amazon), check this thread for more info.
IF you decide to take further actions PLEASE READ INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY, so far you are lucky you didnt brick your kindle.
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AFAIK after upgrading to x.3.2.5(or 6) you cant use downgrading via editing build.prop anymore (thanks to Amazon), check this thread for more info.
IF you decide to take further actions PLEASE READ INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY, so far you are lucky you didnt brick your kindle.
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if i go this route which looks relatively easy do i end up deleting safestrap because i thought twrp doesnt work with it installed? and which safestrap do i install ss 3.72 ... download links are down l?
rbkelley89 said:
if i go this route which looks relatively easy do i end up deleting safestrap because i thought twrp doesnt work with it installed? and which safestrap do i install ss 3.72 ... download links are down l?
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Assuming you are on 13.3.2.4 (must be that version) you need Safestrap v3.75 b02 for Thor (here). See Safestrap OP for additional information on installing/configuring Safestrap. Or follow part 1-2 of this guide. You do not need to create secondary slots as you will be overwriting FireOS in the Stock ROM Slot. This obviously dangerous. If something goes wrong you could be left with an unbootable device. Make a backup of your current environment from Safestrap recovery before flashing the rollback file. Note rolling back to 3.1.0 is a two step process. Be sure you understand these instructions and have the correct files. Ask questions if unsure.
After you have successfully rolled back to 3.1.0 you should uninstall safestrap before flashing native twrp, bumping your bootloader to 3.2.3 and then unlocking. Alternatively, you can work on bootloader unlocking first while Safestrap is installed which will offer more robust recovery capabilities should something go wrong in subsequent steps.
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Assuming you are on 13.3.2.4 (must be that version) you need Safestrap v3.75 b02 for Thor (here). See Safestrap OP for additional information on installing/configuring Safestrap. Or follow part 1-2 of this guide. You do not need to create secondary slots as you will be overwriting FireOS in the Stock ROM Slot. This obviously dangerous. If something goes wrong you could be left with an unbootable device. Make a backup of your current environment from Safestrap recovery before flashing the rollback file. Note rolling back to 3.1.0 is a two step process. Be sure you understand these instructions and have the correct files. Ask questions if unsure.
After you have successfully rolled back to 3.1.0 you should uninstall safestrap before flashing native twrp, bumping your bootloader to 3.2.3 and then unlocking. Alternatively, you can work on bootloader unlocking first while Safestrap is installed which will offer more robust recovery capabilities should something go wrong in subsequent steps.
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thank you so much for the walk through and linking everything i am initiating the process and now have safestrap and backup installed. going through with the rollback then i will start the unlock rocedure. update with any questions or issues i run into. thank you again!
quick thing i ran into before doing factory reset and rebooting into modified stock 3.2.4 it says to have the stock 3.1.0 files where can i find that file it wasn't linked in the rollback instruction or under the modified stock 3.2.4 zip from what i could see?
rbkelley89 said:
thank you so much for the walk through and linking everything i am initiating the process and now have safestrap and backup installed. going through with the rollback then i will start the unlock rocedure. update with any questions or issues i run into. thank you again!
quick thing i ran into before doing factory reset and rebooting into modified stock 3.2.4 it says to have the stock 3.1.0 files where can i find that file it wasn't linked in the rollback instruction or under the modified stock 3.2.4 zip from what i could see?
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You can grab stock images here. Be absolutely certain you snag the correct one for your device. Verify md5=c49c0363de4d8dfa5c87c1bdb88aa2ba with ES FIle Explorer (long click the file and select 'properties' from the 'more' menu). Note you will loose root and OTA blocking. Be sure to stay off wifi. Use HDX Toolkit (requires usb tether to Windows PC) to root 3.1.0 and reblock OTA if needed.
Hi all,
Putting it briefly....
Factory reset of hdx 7" on 4.5.2
Stuck at Kindle Fire logo
Shows in PC as Internal Storage but just empty folders Music, DCIM etc...
Can get ADB connection (good news?)
That's it....now here's the interesting bit.....
If I use Kindle Fire Utility and try to root using Towelroot the device goes straight go lock screen. I slide to open and am confronted with Towelroot app. Click on Make It Rain but nothing happens.
If I try other things like installing SU it returns with permission errors.
I can also get to the devices settings too. No other apps installed just HDXPOSED and TOWELROOT.
Got me baffled... Any ideas how to fix?
You can NOT use Towelroot for 4.5.2! You must use Kingroot. Read about this, I've no experience with it. From what I've read it's possible it requires internet connection, I also read this could be for optional download of some browser or whatever, so try to disable such options, if available. You should avoid internet connection, or have it as short as possible, to avoid OTA upate from Amazon to 4.5.4.
Yep I get that I can't use TOWELROOT. I'm just pointing out that installing it gets me past the stuck Kindle Logo into the devices settings. Just no other apps or home scree though. Can't lock screen and if I restart the device it sticks at logo again....
myotai said:
Yep I get that I can't use TOWELROOT. I'm just pointing out that installing it gets me past the stuck Kindle Logo into the devices settings. Just no other apps or home scree though. Can't lock screen and if I restart the device it sticks at logo again....
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Nothing comes to mind. Generally being stuck at the grey Kindle logo is terminal on a device with stock recovery and a locked bootloader. For future reference HDXPOSED is obsolete and may have contributed to your woes. It was never designed for FireOS v4 and doesn't work well on later versions of FireOS v3.
Thanks,
Yet I can get as far as 'Settings'. Isn't there a way I can push an update via ADB and flash....I guess I'd need to install root first? Is either possible?
P.s its not the grey logo its the coloured orange animated one.
myotai said:
Thanks,
Yet I can get as far as 'Settings'. Isn't there a way I can push an update via ADB and flash....I guess I'd need to install root first? Is either possible?
P.s its not the grey logo its the coloured orange animated one.
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Assume you tried another factory reset. Being stuck at the orange logo offers some hope but there is no Rx that I know of.
Obtaining root is obviously desirable. You can try installing Kingroot via adb install and hope it executes (like towelroot apparently does) and continues to completion. If successfully you could try to repair the damage that is preventing FireOS from fully booting.
I recall someone saying installing a different launcher (eg: Nova) allowed their Kindle to boot.
Another path is to place the 3.2.8 rollback file into the root of sdcard and hope it takes.
Thanks - I have had a look but can't see a specific guide to installing Kingroot via adb. There are generic tips and pointers but I want to salvage what I have and not completely brick it - does anyone know where the thread is?
Thanks...
myotai said:
Thanks - I have had a look but can't see a specific guide to installing Kingroot via adb. There are generic tips and pointers but I want to salvage what I have and not completely brick it - does anyone know where the thread is?
Thanks...
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You probably won't find that (not aware of any forum postings). Here's the deal. You are operating in uncharted waters trying to revive an unlocked/unrooted device that got borked for unknown reasons. You are going to have to a bunch of research and take some chances. FireOS can be a bxxch to repair. If the device is under warranty your best course of action is to engage Amazon for an exchange.
Kingroot is a longshot idea which I would not have mentioned if not for your experience with Towelroot. I have no idea if it will work.
Google (or another search engine) is your friend. A couple representative links below that popped up on the first attempt. I have no experience with either site an can not vouch for the content. Just a starting point ...
- Kingroot
- ADB Info
Thanks for your feedback!
I guess nothing ventured n all that!
Its a paper-weight at the moment so can't get much worse.....I'll wander around those un-charted lands and see what I come up with!
Ok, so I've managed to root using Kingroot. Installed Su too. But that's as far as I've got - I'm hoping that there is some way of salvaging this machine now I have root enabled and can get as far as the settings menu?
Thanks...
myotai said:
Ok, so I've managed to root using Kingroot. Installed Su too. But that's as far as I've got - I'm hoping that there is some way of salvaging this machine now I have root enabled and can get as far as the settings menu?
Thanks...
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So you're on 4.5.2 rooted & OTA disabled now? Then try to install Safestrap v4. If it works, backup your stock slot (even if it doesn't work, who knows what it'll be good for), and move it to your PC. As the secondary slots won't work with WLAN atm anyway, you can install one of the Safestrap v4 compatible ROMs, e.g. Nexus, or CM11 in the stock slot, don't create any secondary Slots (yet).
myotai said:
Ok, so I've managed to root using Kingroot. Installed Su too. But that's as far as I've got - I'm hoping that there is some way of salvaging this machine now I have root enabled and can get as far as the settings menu?
Thanks...
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To confirm you are now on rooted 4.5.2 but can get beyond the FireOS settings menu. If you install an apk via adb can you retain enough control to launch the app UI? You can do this via an adb shell command; unfortunately, the specifics are beyond my knowledge. Hopefully someone else can jump in or you can research on your own (if needed).
There is no safe way to repair FireOS directly with a locked bootloader. On many Android devices you would simply reflash/reinstall the ROM. Unfortunately, Amazon neutered the stock recovery environment as you discovered. If something goes wrong you are in a world of hurt. I think there is a very good chance your device can be revived. Just need to proceed carefully and not bork things to the point were you don't get past the grey logo. That generally means you own a door stop.
Thoughts (sorry if these are obvious):
- Keep in mind OTA is probably enabled on your device. Stay off wifi if you get that far; best to use a tether for file transfer, etc. until the problem is fixed. You can also rename the OTA apk via adb ... but your focus should be elsewhere at this point.
- It appears the FireOS launcher is hanging during initial setup (as you did a factory reset). You may find joy by installing another launcher (eg: Nova via adb) which often set themselves as the default when installed. Once you regain some control you can then install Safestrap v4 which is the pathway to other roms or repairing 4.5.2. Be aware FireOS will try to reset the default launcher on reboot. If this method works don't mess around trying to fix stuff. Install Safestrap v4 immediately (you also need to open the app and install Safestrap recovery) so you retain some control over your device during further troubleshooting.
- If a different launcher does not work try going for Safestrap v4. You will probably need to get smart around adb shell commands as you have to launch the UI to install the Safestrap recovery environment.
Thanks all taken in - my knowledge of ADB and its various commands are being added to as the hours go by - never really used it before.
Determind though........!
So, its looking better. Managed to get Safestrap installed and using a VERY convoluted method got into Recovery. After four attempts installed CM11 and have a working tablet now.
What I want to do now is somehow get a stock Kindle ROM running....any ideas?
Thanks again for your help everyone!
myotai said:
So, its looking better. Managed to get Safestrap installed and using a VERY convoluted method got into Recovery. After four attempts installed CM11 and have a working tablet now.
What I want to do now is somehow get a stock Kindle ROM running....any ideas?
Thanks again for your help everyone!
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Yep - just flash 4.5.2 rom from here (don't use any other - you'll be rewarded with a brick). I strongly suggest you backup your existing stock slot (containing CM11) and reflash that to a secondary slot that you'll need to create. You won't be able to use wifi on the secondary slot but it will give you a rom to boot into in the event something goes wrong with the FireOS flash. Once you get FireOS working in the stock slot you should be able uninstall Safestrap. The operative word is 'should' as the system and recovery partitions need to be consistent for FireOS to boot properly. From what you have shared there is no reason to believe this is not the case - but the risk can not be dismissed. The other option is to leave Safestrap installed which only adds an annoying splash screen on boot but otherwise does not impact performance. What it does do is give you a pseudo-recovery environment which can be quite handy as you have discovered! It's also the vehicle for installing other roms such as CM11, Nexus v4, etc.
Take note of the cautions in the linked OP, in particular OTA. After flashing 4.5.2 you'll need to root and rename the OTA apk before enabling wifi. Amazon is aggressively pushing 4.5.4 which can not be rooted. Don't ruin your day - block OTA (yea - that was stupid).
Thanks so much. Its worth listing the procedures that got me this far...
I think installing TOWELROOT via ADB despite the fact I knew it wouldn't work was oddly the only thing that got me as far as 'settings' from a stuck Kindle logo. Then I had to resgiter the device in order to go to 'new offers' in the books setting to access the browser.....emails......Kingroot......finally Safestrap....boom!
Hello, hoping one you experienced Kindle fire HDX 8.9 users can help me. Ok, my kindle fire HDX is running a stock factory rom/ software. The current firmware is 14.3.10. I rooted it a year ago with one of the programs I found on the net.
I kept getting the add pop-ups, so I used sql editor to change one or two of the fields to stop the add pop-ups as per instructions on the net. What ever root program I used, also disabled OTA updates. I installed the common files for getting the google playstore on the device. So over time, the playstore crashed, kept getting the error most people get about playstore has stopped working. I went in and uninstalled the playstore files. Then I decided to do a factory restore. BIG MISTAKE!!
Kindle fire HDX reset, and put me back to the registration screen. I was able to re-register it, then it went to the grey language screen. I choose English. So the problem is: It keeps looping to the language screen. I can choose English, then ok at the bottom of the screen, but it just goes back to the language screen. I can power it down, and back up. I get my unlock screen, and I can see the icon screen, and even go into the settings for about 20 to 30 seconds before it loops to the grey language screen. The kindle does not do any auto re-booting, it just stays stuck on the language screen until I power it down and back up.
Next, I can connect it to my PC through the USB cable, and the kindle is recognized. I have downloaded the program from XDA developers KFHD SRT 2.0. I can start that program, and it recognizes the Kindle , and it will put it into Fastboot mode. The kindle says fastboot and ready on the screen. I'm not sure what to do at this point. I dont want to jack up my kindle anymore than it already is. I read somewhere, that I may have to order a special USB cable for fastboot. I'm not sure if this is true. I never installed any recovery software on the Kindle, nor did I make a back up that I know of.
So what is the easy fix to get it back to stock and get it out this soft loop. I'm sure it can be repaired being I still have some access. I Thank any of you who will take the time to guide me through the process or point me to the right programs and files needed to get it working again.
Thanks
All you need to do is temporarily re-enable OTA updates (HDX Toolkit?)
rlkellyjr said:
Hello, hoping one you experienced Kindle fire HDX 8.9 users can help me. Ok, my kindle fire HDX is running a stock factory rom/ software. The current firmware is 14.3.10. I rooted it a year ago with one of the programs I found on the net.
I kept getting the add pop-ups, so I used sql editor to change one or two of the fields to stop the add pop-ups as per instructions on the net. What ever root program I used, also disabled OTA updates. I installed the common files for getting the google playstore on the device. So over time, the playstore crashed, kept getting the error most people get about playstore has stopped working. I went in and uninstalled the playstore files. Then I decided to do a factory restore. BIG MISTAKE!!
Kindle fire HDX reset, and put me back to the registration screen. I was able to re-register it, then it went to the grey language screen. I choose English. So the problem is: It keeps looping to the language screen. I can choose English, then ok at the bottom of the screen, but it just goes back to the language screen. I can power it down, and back up. I get my unlock screen, and I can see the icon screen, and even go into the settings for about 20 to 30 seconds before it loops to the grey language screen. The kindle does not do any auto re-booting, it just stays stuck on the language screen until I power it down and back up.
Next, I can connect it to my PC through the USB cable, and the kindle is recognized. I have downloaded the program from XDA developers KFHD SRT 2.0. I can start that program, and it recognizes the Kindle , and it will put it into Fastboot mode. The kindle says fastboot and ready on the screen. I'm not sure what to do at this point. I dont want to jack up my kindle anymore than it already is. I read somewhere, that I may have to order a special USB cable for fastboot. I'm not sure if this is true. I never installed any recovery software on the Kindle, nor did I make a back up that I know of.
So what is the easy fix to get it back to stock and get it out this soft loop. I'm sure it can be repaired being I still have some access. I Thank any of you who will take the time to guide me through the process or point me to the right programs and files needed to get it working again.
Thanks
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Careful what you read on the "net"; fastboot (special USB) cables are useless on a HDX. KFHD SRT is for a different device. Factory resets on a HDX often result in more harm than good as you discovered.
Stock launcher is likely hosed. Common fix is to sideload a third party launcher (recommend Apex or Nova) to regain temporary control over your device and then repair the problem. The latter is best accomplished by allowing FireOS to upgrade (thus replacing the botched components) but that may create to further headaches given the extensive modifications already made to FireOS and lack of detail around exactly what was done.
You'll need to learn some adb commands to install Apex/Nova via USB tether. A slimmed down version of ADB can be found here (Windows host).
Given your firmware version I suggest flashing TWRP (here) which will give your a 'real' recovery. From there you can install Nexus v2 (new rom) which frees your device from the limitations of FireOS and supports full access to the world of Google including the play store. You can stay on Nexus v2 or take the next step and unlock the bootloader which will open the door to additional roms including Nexus v4, CM11 (both KitKat) and CM12 (lollipop). Note the above is not an Rx; I have left out several steps in the interest if brevity. Will fill in the details as needed.
If you want to keep FireOS then you have to unblock OTA (suggest HDX toolkit) and upgrade to a newer version of FireOS (suggest 3.2.6). There is some risk involved but safer than tinkering with your current install which you lead to an unrecoverable situation.
Update !!!
Thanks for your help. I used HDX tool kit to re-enable updates. The kindle took and update, so it is at 4.5.2. But now it wants to install the newer update as soon as I power it on. What should I do?? Is the newer update (4.5.3 or higher / unknow at this time) still going to allow root.
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Thanks for your help. I used HDX tool kit to re-enable updates. The kindle took and update, so it is at 4.5.2. But now it wants to install the newer update as soon as I power it on. What should I do?? Is the newer update (4.5.3 or higher / unknow at this time) still going to allow root.
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You'll need to root via adb. You can then disable OTA updates by renaming a system file.
- enable adb via settings -> device -> enable ADB
- tether via standard USB cable
- install minimal adb and fastboot (Windows host)
- open command window, switch to adb directory and issue command 'adb devices'. If no responses install drivers, reboot Windows and try again
- (optional) some lite reading on adb command
- grab kingroot apk, place in adb folder and then issue command 'adb install <package-name>.apk'
- install ES File Explorer in a similar manner
- run kingroot from your HDX. If it requests Internet connectivity enable WiFi briefly (<30 sec) until it completes then immediately disable (or place in airplane mode)
- replace Kinguser with SuperSU (here)
- enable root support in ES File Explorer via toggle in left side panel navigate to /system/priv-app/ and search for DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk
- use ES File Explorer to rename DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk to DeviceSoftwareOTA.old (or whatever name you want provided it does not end in .apk)
At this point you can safely enable WiFi. I strongly suggest installing Safestrap v4 before making any other changes to your device. This tool offers:
- enhanced recovery capability (it is not a full recovery but better than Amazon's tools)
- ability to make a complete backup of your device; essential should something go wrong
- ability to install other roms including Nexus v4 or CM11
Good luck.
final steps in re-rooting and preventing update
What file do I need to rename to prevent the pending update from installing. My kindle is powered off currently, if I turn it on its going to go straight to the kindle fire screen and state installing the update. What do I need to rename the file to? I'm assuming I can do all that you tell me to do thru windows 7 , with the kindle connected via USB and it being powered off????
Thank you for your time in helping me getting it going again.
rlkellyjr said:
What file do I need to rename to prevent the pending update from installing. My kindle is powered off currently, if I turn it on its going to go straight to the kindle fire screen and state installing the update. What do I need to rename the file to? I'm assuming I can do all that you tell me to do thru windows 7 , with the kindle connected via USB and it being powered off????
Thank you for your time in helping me getting it going again.
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Assuming you missed my prior post given close timestamps. Details here. Kindle must be powered on to issue adb commands. To prevent and immediate OTA either: 1) place device in airplane mode; or 2) move to an area where it can not connect to WiFi.
Follow up, needing help still
Davey126 said:
Assuming you missed my prior post given close timestamps. Details here. Kindle must be powered on to issue adb commands. To prevent and immediate OTA either: 1) place device in airplane mode; or 2) move to an area where it can not connect to WiFi.
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Thank you Sir. I guess I need to clarify what I meant by update. My kindle has already downloaded the update, so it is trying to install or apply the update upon start up. So I just press and held the power button to power it off. However as soon as I power it back on, the kindle will go back to the screen where it's trying to install the update. Is there a way to stop it from applying the update, and still accomplish what you suggested.
Thank you for any help that you can provide.
rlkellyjr said:
Thank you Sir. I guess I need to clarify what I meant by update. My kindle has already downloaded the update, so it is trying to install or apply the update upon start up. So I just press and held the power button to power it off. However as soon as I power it back on, the kindle will go back to the screen where it's trying to install the update. Is there a way to stop it from applying the update, and still accomplish what you suggested.
Thank you for any help that you can provide.
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Well that's a problem. Are you certain it is trying to process fully downloaded OTA upate to FireOS (likely 4.5.5) vs completing the 4.5.2 install? The messages look a bit similar. If it is trying to update to a higher version I would let it complete as the risk of interrupting the update mid-stream could leave you in a worse state. You would then need to perform the 3.2.8 rollback / 4.5.2 update again. Or just stay with 4.5.5 depending on your passion around root and/or running an alternate rom (via Safestrap) on this device.
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Well that's a problem. Are you certain it is trying to process fully downloaded OTA upate to FireOS (likely 4.5.5) vs completing the 4.5.2 install? The messages look a bit similar. If it is trying to update to a higher version I would let it complete as the risk of interrupting the update mid-stream could leave you in a worse state. You would then need to perform the 3.2.8 rollback / 4.5.2 update again. Or just stay with 4.5.5 depending on your passion around root and/or running an alternate rom (via Safestrap) on this device.
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I think it might be trying to install the 4.5.5. Could be wrong?? So if you suggest, I will let it finish what it's trying to do. But I do want to obtain root again, and install the playstore. I'm not sure if these most recent updates lock the bootloader, where I can not install another custom OS. Or if a roll back will re-enable it. I'm still new to the Kindle. It's been rooted for over a year, and I never had a reason to mess with it, until the start of this thread.
Thank You.
rlkellyjr said:
I think it might be trying to install the 4.5.5. Could be wrong?? So if you suggest, I will let it finish what it's trying to do. But I do want to obtain root again, and install the playstore. I'm not sure if these most recent updates lock the bootloader, where I can not install another custom OS. Or if a roll back will re-enable it. I'm still new to the Kindle. It's been rooted for over a year, and I never had a reason to mess with it, until the start of this thread.
Thank You.
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If there is no way to stop the installation, then I might as well power it back on , and let it finish. Is there not a way to make it do a factor reset, or boot loader menu I could put it in, providing a little time to modify a the update file to prevent it from updating??
Thanks
rlkellyjr said:
I think it might be trying to install the 4.5.5. Could be wrong?? So if you suggest, I will let it finish what it's trying to do. But I do want to obtain root again, and install the playstore. I'm not sure if these most recent updates lock the bootloader, where I can not install another custom OS. Or if a roll back will re-enable it. I'm still new to the Kindle. It's been rooted for over a year, and I never had a reason to mess with it, until the start of this thread.
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Updating to 4.5.2 eliminated the path to an unlocked bootloader. However, there is an alternate solution (Safestrap v4) that permits loading other KitKat based roms (currently Nexus and CM11) but you must be running FireOS 4.5.2 first. Note 4.5.5 can not be rooted at present.
I strongly discourage layering gapps onto FireOS. Amazon and Google components don't play nice; you can get it to work (mostly) but maintenance is a nightmare as each version change seems to bring new headaches. A better solution is to use one of the previously mentioned roms which turns your HDX into a 'normal' Android tablet with full access to the Playstore.
As previously mentioned keep WiFi off until your tablet completes whatever updates it is trying to apply. Post back the final version number which will dictate future steps.
Davey126 said:
Updating to 4.5.2 eliminated the path to an unlocked bootloader. However, there is an alternate solution (Safestrap v4) that permits loading other KitKat based roms (currently Nexus and CM11) but you must be running FireOS 4.5.2 first. Note 4.5.5 can not be rooted at present.
I strongly discourage layering gapps onto FireOS. Amazon and Google components don't play nice; you can get it to work (mostly) but maintenance is a nightmare as each version change seems to bring new headaches. A better solution is to use one of the previously mentioned roms which turns your HDX into a 'normal' Android tablet with full access to the Playstore.
As previously mentioned keep WiFi off until your tablet completes whatever updates it is trying to apply. Post back the final version number which will dictate future steps.
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Ok, its sitting at 4.5.4 airplane mode is on. So what is my next step from here.
Thanks
rlkellyjr said:
Ok, its sitting at 4.5.4 airplane mode is on. So what is my next step from here.
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To secure root and Safestrap v4 you will need to rollback to 4.5.2 via 3.2.8 (there is no direct path). There is risk involved; procedures need to be followed carefully to avoid permanently bricking your device. Don't take that lightly; new causalities are reported with surprising frequency from individuals who skipped steps or simply made a mistake. Amazon devices are unforgiving. Also note there are no step-by-step guides or videos. It's your responsibility to understand the end-to-end process and associated procedures.
First have a read through this thread. Everything you need is there but like most of the forums it is disorganized and full of off-topic commentary.
Before starting I recommend downloading the following into the suggested folders (you'll need to create these; name them as you wish):
- 3.2.8 rollback file for Apollo (here) -> 328RB folder
- 4.5.2 update file for Apollo (here) -> 452UD folder
- ES File Explorer (here) -> Tools folder
- Kingroot (here) -> Tools folder
Thoughts:
- keep above files in respective folders until needed
- make sure you can see/communicate with your device via USB tether. Vital for transferring files and performing certain functions should things go wrong.
- keep WiFi off at all times unless instructed otherwise. Keep airplane mode engaged (on). If possible stay away from open hotspots; skip WiFi setup when prompted
- WARNING: If you device takes an OTA update during rollback it will almost certainly brick with no chance of recovery. OTA updates are delivered via WiFi.
- WARNING: Never perform a 'factory reset' from the HDX recovery menu unless specifically instructed to do so.
Ask questions if unsure. Good luck.
Thanks for your help
Davey126 said:
To secure root and Safestrap v4 you will need to rollback to 4.5.2 via 3.2.8 (there is no direct path). There is risk involved; procedures need to be followed carefully to avoid permanently bricking your device. Don't take that lightly; new causalities are reported with surprising frequency from individuals who skipped steps or simply made a mistake. Amazon devices are unforgiving. Also note there are no step-by-step guides or videos. It's your responsibility to understand the end-to-end process and associated procedures.
First have a read through this thread. Everything you need is there but like most of the forums it is disorganized and full of off-topic commentary.
Before starting I recommend downloading the following into the suggested folders (you'll need to create these; name them as you wish):
- 3.2.8 rollback file for Apollo (here) -> 328RB folder
- 4.5.2 update file for Apollo (here) -> 452UD folder
- ES File Explorer (here) -> Tools folder
- Kingroot (here) -> Tools folder
Thoughts:
- keep above files in respective folders until needed
- make sure you can see/communicate with your device via USB tether. Vital for transferring files and performing certain functions should things go wrong.
- keep WiFi off at all times unless instructed otherwise. Keep airplane mode engaged (on). If possible stay away from open hotspots; skip WiFi setup when prompted
- WARNING: If you device takes an OTA update during rollback it will almost certainly brick with no chance of recovery. OTA updates are delivered via WiFi.
- WARNING: Never perform a 'factory reset' from the HDX recovery menu unless specifically instructed to do so.
Ask questions if unsure. Good luck.
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Thank you for all your help.
A tad more info needed
rlkellyjr said:
Thank you for all your help.
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Can I apply the downgrade with 4.5.4, or do I need to let the kindle update to 4.5.5 before attempting the downgrade. ???
Thanks again.
can rollback be done with firmware 4.5.4 ?
rlkellyjr said:
Thank you for all your help.
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can the roll back be applied to 4.5.4? or do I need to update all the way to 4.5.5 before doing the roll back. Thanks..
rlkellyjr said:
can the roll back be applied to 4.5.4? or do I need to update all the way to 4.5.5 before doing the roll back. Thanks..
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rlkellyjr said:
Can I apply the downgrade with 4.5.4, or do I need to let the kindle update to 4.5.5 before attempting the downgrade. ???
Thanks again.
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You can begin the rollback from any variant of FireOS v4 including 4.5.4.