About 5.1 update for M4 Aqua - Sony Xperia M4 Aqua

After seeing Xperia C4,Xperia C5 Ultra and now Xperia M5 got android 5.1 update out of the nowhere should we expect it on M4 soon?
Those phones should skip 5.1 and go directly ti 6.0 but Sony changed their minds...
Only M4 left on 5.0 for now...

Keep in mind that c4, c5 and m5 use same mediatek chipset so once 5.1 came for c4 it was matter of time to appear also for c5 and m5. Our M4 aqua uses qualcomm chipset so i do not expect 5.1 for it. It should be easier for sony to get 6.0 working on the qualcomm than on mediatek so i think that we will get directly 6.0 while c4, c5 and m5 will get it later than us and that's why sony released 5.1 for these models to calm down the owners. We will see.

End of february beginning of March for marshmallow on m4 aqua

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End of february beginning of March for marshmallow on m4 aqua
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Where did you get this information from?
Official the S6 and S6 edge will get 6.0 february/march. And for the M4 it says first quarter, so it's more likely end of march or second quarter

Never seen any real date for any Sony Xperia phones and marshmallow, so a month time for M4 is very unlikely. First of they need to roll it on z5 series, then the rest of the z series. And lastly on other Xperia models... I hope we get 6.0 before summer.
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Also, people can get very anxious about UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE, but have you seen what's in these updates? Barely anything, from what I can see. Even the major updates from 5.0 to 6.0. How much of it is visible to the consumer?
Bug fixes (don't care)
developer tools (don't care, not releveant),
driver updates (don't care)
oh and they fixed the sound toggles that they broke in 5.0 that nobody liked. Wow, thanks!
zzzzzzzz
When Android 10.0 comes out call me. Maybe there'll be something new.

In M4's case, we will get a possibility to use SD card as a phone memory, and considering the lack of space this phone has, marshmallow is a big thing...
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mb011 said:
In M4's case, we will get a possibility to use SD card as a phone memory, and considering the lack of space this phone has, marshmallow is a big thing...
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Thats the main point of the #M46.0HYPETRAIN thing. We are all waiting for that!

I believe we will get after April.

Or faster we have stable custom rom(cm 13, AOSP)
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In XperiFirm i see that there is a new firmware released for Denmark, Nordic and Baltic (E2303) 26.1.A3.93. Going by the number looks like the firmware could be 5.1.
has any one got the update, can any one confirm.

It's not 5.1. It is still 5.0, but my phone got 300mb extra free space. They have removed something. Haven't found what it is yet.
My FW is 26.1.A.3.92. Upgraded this morning through Xperia companion.

SharpnShiny said:
Also, people can get very anxious about UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE, but have you seen what's in these updates? Barely anything, from what I can see. Even the major updates from 5.0 to 6.0. How much of it is visible to the consumer?
Bug fixes (don't care)
developer tools (don't care, not releveant),
driver updates (don't care)
oh and they fixed the sound toggles that they broke in 5.0 that nobody liked. Wow, thanks!
zzzzzzzz
When Android 10.0 comes out call me. Maybe there'll be something new.
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crappy post.
* Multi-window support ( I care)
* SD card as expanded internal memory (I care)

MrPilot said:
crappy post.
* Multi-window support ( I care)
* SD card as expanded internal memory (I care)
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I have the north American 16GB version.
- SD card as expanded internal memory (I don't care).
And I'm a consumer. Of course I get to evaluate the $300 products I buy and their support. "crappy post" doesn't make sense.

SharpnShiny said:
I have the north American 16GB version.
- SD card as expanded internal memory (I don't care).
And I'm a consumer. Of course I get to evaluate the $300 products I buy and their support. "crappy post" doesn't make sense.
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If it isn't relevant to you, why comment? There are always bug fixes and security fixes that do matter to a lot of people, whether you include yourself in that group or not is a moot point.

rp-x1 said:
If it isn't relevant to you, why comment? There are always bug fixes and security fixes that do matter to a lot of people, whether you include yourself in that group or not is a moot point.
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Why did I comment? Go back to the first post. The first post talks about ETAs for arrival of the next major Android update. The entire point of my comment, which you've apparently missed, was that I'm not convinced by anything I've read about the update that is a significant improvement from the customer standpoint, so I'm relaxed about the ETA. My point is valid, even if it's different to your's, or just because you don't understand. Moot that. There's nothing more useful for me in this thread so it's my final comment to you.

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When does z ultra update android4.4?

Hello!According to my observation,note3,s4,lg g2,htc one have updated version4.4,but sony z1 and z ultra haven't.Why?SONY has fallen behind.Although,z ultra has many 4.4 ROMs,they are native andriod ROMs,which hasn't unique places.
According to me, it should happen after the announcement of Z2 (Sirius) at the upcoming MWC
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According to me, it should happen after the announcement of Z2 (Sirius) at the upcoming MWC
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Maybe...As I konw,htc and samsung also update version 4.4,which hasn't ART mode.But lg have it.I hope sony support ART,although many software isn't support it.
eduser said:
Maybe...As I konw,htc and samsung also update version 4.4,which hasn't ART mode.But lg have it.I hope sony support ART,although many software isn't support it.
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Let them take their time, maybe they'll make the update worth the wait. In the meanwhile, enjoy AOKP 4.4

Any updates on 5.1?

I keep scouring the web to see when the Z4 tab will get the update but it is scarily quiet! Anyone have any inside info as to what's happening?
Cheers
I too have been searching on a daily basis. I don't like doing this, but the performance of the Z4 is good, but then its still not miles away from the Z3 compact, and there should be a huge difference looking at the specs.
I feel that the Z4 is not optimised for the 64 bit octa core processor and perhaps we might see a performance jump in Android 5.1.1?
I'm also wondering why the Z4 Tablet has not the update to 5.1 yet.
On the other side there is an Android M developer preview available for nearly every xperia device except for the Z4T?
I am really a bit disappointed - you buy a brand new (and expensive) device and you don't get updates. But the "old" devices get everything...
I'm presuming Sony is having some challenges with the Snapdragon 810 and optimisation of the octal core processor. That's all it can be really.
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Still no update from Sony.
I've got the Samsung Z3 Tablet Compact and the Z4 Tablet, and the Z3TC is flying along with Android 5.1.1, at times outpacing the Z4 for the same task, which makes me want to see the Z4 Android 5.1.1 update sooner than later. Sony are pushing this update out to Z3 and Z2 owners and nothing for the Z4.
Does anyone have any insight into whats going on?
No insight but I just downloaded the AOSP 5.1 binaries from SONY developer world. The AOSP sources are on GitHub.
Next week I try to build the 5.1 ROM.
According to the latest entry in PTCRB, seems that android 5.1.1 is on its way...
https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=29934
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According to the latest entry in PTCRB, seems that android 5.1.1 is on its way...
https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=29934
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I'm not familiar with that site. It lists the model number as TM-0061-BV; How do we know that is the Sony Z4 tablet?
How do we know that is the Sony Z4 tablet?
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It is one of the Z3+/Z4 phones.
This is a regulatory site ...
28.0.A... software versions are for the xperias with Qualcom 810 processors from SONY.
It only means there is newer ROM for the phone. The software sans specific drivers for the phone part should be identical to the Z4 Tablets (Wifi or LTE).
So you can see it like this:
Newer ROMs for phone(s) usually means updates for the tablets too.
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It is one of the Z3+/Z4 phones.
This is a regulatory site ...
28.0.A... software versions are for the xperias with Qualcom 810 processors from SONY.
It only means there is newer ROM for the phone. The software sans specific drivers for the phone part should be identical to the Z4 Tablets (Wifi or LTE).
So you can see it like this:
Newer ROMs for phone(s) usually means updates for the tablets too.
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Good to see progress, but then how long does the Firmware rollout start after this stage? If anyone knows.
I actually ran a 5.11 version here (from AOSP sources).
But no touch functionality -> useless.
Should be fixed according to a SONY guy but trying (and reverting) takes 5+ hours including 2 of my personal time.

These Sony Xperia Devices Will Get Android Marshmallow

Sony is the latest company to reveal which of its Sony Xperia devices will be getting the Android Marshmallow update.
The company has now released a full list, which you can see below that will get the Android 6.0 software update.
Sony Xperia Android Marshmallow Update List:
Xperia Z5
Xperia Z5 Compact
Xperia Z5 Premium
Xperia Z4 Tablet
Xperia Z3+
Xperia Z3
Xperia Z3 Compact
Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
Xperia Z2
Xperia Z2 Tablet
Xperia M5
Xperia C5 Ultra
Xperia M4 Aqua
Xperia C5
Sony has not given any details on when the various handsets will get the Android Marshmallow update. The company has said that the updates will be rolled out in phases and will vary depending on the country and carrier.
As soon as we get some more informatin on when the first Sony Xperia devices will get the Android 6.0 Marshmallow update, we will let you guys know.
Source Sony
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/these-sony-xperia-devices-will-get-android-marshmallow-06-10-2015/
Wow nice news thanks sony.
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Yes please, Im using the sony concept on my z3 compact phone and its amazing, its amazingly fast, and the feature I am waiting so much is adoptive storage, I have a 64gb micro sd on my tablet but since the 16gb internal fill up so much its pretty much useless to have a micro sd, on my phone on the other hand with android 6.0, it takes the micro sd and the internal storage as one partition, so I dont have to worry about moving any file, and as far as android goes, I have 70gb of storage , I NEED THIS ON MY TABLET NOW!!
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Yes please, Im using the sony concept on my z3 compact phone and its amazing, its amazingly fast, and the feature I am waiting so much is adoptive storage, I have a 64gb micro sd on my tablet but since the 16gb internal fill up so much its pretty much useless to have a micro sd, on my phone on the other hand with android 6.0, it takes the micro sd and the internal storage as one partition, so I dont have to worry about moving any file, and as far as android goes, I have 70gb of storage , I NEED THIS ON MY TABLET NOW!!
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Means id have 130.2gb
Yep only thing im intetested in with marshmallow is the storage improvement. I have a 128gb and 200 gb card waiting but suspect the 128gb is the max for this device.
Sony is slated to release Android 6.0 Marshmallow upgrade to Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact in a few weeks' time.
Read here
Old News!
No update for marshmallow? Now already end of January..
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mid february.
MarQ123 said:
mid february.
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I got nothing. Anyone else?
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I got nothing. Anyone else?
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same here, only got 5.0 update notification.
(I am still in 4.4.4, 23.0.1.A.0.167)
Still waiting Sony......
Still waiting. Early-mid March. Xperia Z3 Compact Tab SGP621. Heck, I didn't even get the 23.4.A.1.264 update.
dudes i have PERFECT results as concern speed and battery with stock KK and this fully debloating script http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/kk-debloating-script-xperia-phones-t3192846.I have more than 10 hours screen on time with browsing internet.I am not an expert but from what i read about android 6,i don't believe that it will be more stable from KK.Basically i believe no-one OS till now is better from KK.And don't forget that 34% from all android devices run KK.Also if you have root like me,you can easilly customize your rom to add android M features
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Anybody test if the new beta is aviable for our device? I can't because I have KK, like the guy above say the battery in KK is the best!
dnnz said:
Anybody test if the new beta is aviable for our device? I can't because I have KK, like the guy above say the battery in KK is the best!
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Doesn't look like the Tablet gets the beta.
Just have to wait
(But it works great on lollipop too, maybe better on kitkat, but I never used it on KK).
On the Z5 on the other hand, lollipop was lollipoo.
Its ridiculous we almost at April and we still dont have MM on Z3tc...
I have some bugs on my device probably fixed with 6.0.... Sony is the worst to release updates. =/
stryyker said:
Its ridiculous we almost at April and we still dont have MM on Z3tc...
I have some bugs on my device probably fixed with 6.0.... Sony is the worst to release updates. =/
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I know it supersucks because we and the z2 tablet are the only ones who don't have MM, z5 have it and Z3 and z2 users have the concept since December and now the beta... But us NOTHING, The Z3 line all have the same processor, the EXACT model, is that hard to make available the concept for us??.... .....
The whole Sony tablet phone is not bad to the ones are not super into especific stuff, but about updates and that Sony sucks a lot.
For me is the last thing Sony I will buy tablet or phone atm
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For me is the last thing Sony I will buy tablet or phone atm
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what will you do more with MM?
This tablet runs better than every MM tablet ...
Anyway I have Samusng and Sony smartphones and they get MM togheter in march but for example Nexus got MM before: it crashed, drained battery and it seemed a crash test of the new Android version...I prefer a better device with a better software, also if the software is older labeled but play more things than newer

This is it, Marshmallow is final rom for us

As you know Google recently released Android 7.0 update to Nexus devices and Sony released list of what devices will receive update http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/ Only Z and X line will be getting it. Sony abondoned it's M4 and M5 devices that recently turned 1 year old. Our only hope now is Custom Rom devs. What do you think about this move from Sony ?
I think,it's only "first wave" of updates,in future we can see Nougat. But I don't sure,that this is right)))
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I think,it's only "first wave" of updates,in future we can see Nougat. But I don't sure,that this is right)))
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It's unlikely that it will be in waves. It's sony after all slow ass oem who has close to stock android yet takes more time to update than Samsung, Lg
To be fair, I'm more surprised we got Marshmallow in the first place. Nougat was very, very unlikely.
However, Marshmallow created so many issues on my phone, this is the first time ever where I've had to downgrade to Lollipop.
If Sony did bring Nougat, they'd mess it up somehow. But I regret getting this phone and will probably cross Sony off the list of OEMs to purchase from.
M4 and M5 are midrange devices we can't expect more than Marshmallow..
There is no xperia e5 on the list, which is a 2016 phone, so it is probably just a list that will be updated soon.
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Unless Sony is trying to be the Apple of android and cutting out their midrange phones
i'm pretty sure this is our last rom, and i don't think there will be a new custom rom either since the dev are became quite now (it just my opiniop tho..)
hope we get a method to root our Xperia M4 Aqua on MM 6.0 without unlocking boot loader ...... :fingers-crossed:
IF and it's a big IF - we get 7.0 N it will probably be after they release 8.0 X on other xperia devices just like it happened to 6.0 MM
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i'm pretty sure this is our last rom, and i don't think there will be a new custom rom either since the dev are became quite now (it just my opiniop tho..)
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I don't think we will get nougat either, as there are there are reports for Qualcomm not supporting snapdragon 810, so no Vulkan API drivers for the z3. Snapdragon 615 (our phone) was in the 810 lineup, so it probably won't get the drivers either. So PROBABLY no nougat.
it is snapdragon 801 and not 810
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I don't think we will get nougat either, as there are there are reports for Qualcomm not supporting snapdragon 810, so no Vulkan API drivers for the z3. Snapdragon 615 (our phone) was in the 810 lineup, so it probably won't get the drivers either. So PROBABLY no nougat.
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Qualcomm and Google won't support Snapdragon 801 and not Snapdragon 810 ( Xperia Z5) ... btw Snapdragon 615 is on a host of phones which probably are going to get Nougat update its only that disgusting Sony wont offer any more updates Samsung and LG, Huawei will still support their Snapdragon 615 ( very good chance)
and visit this http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...t-24-months-os-updates-current-future-phones/
Huawei has promised 24 months of updates for all its devices going forward 2016 onwards Honor 5X with snapdragon 615 will be getting nougat because unlike Sony Huawei cares about their users
(if) We will get nougat only when android o beta come out, I've been using sony mid range a long time and this pattern was also applied to our phone, at that time our 18 month of update already dead I think
It's not a flagship phone, this isn't Google and it came with 5.0. It was foreseeable that it would die with 6.0.1 (officially anyway, but seeing that there's hardly any development, it's really unlikely we will get a nougat rom)
M4 aqua is a mid-range device and as such only gets update support for 18mths it was never gonna get N in the first place z3 and m5 also don't use dm-verity security which all new Xperia devices have. People are slating Sony for dropping the z3 that's had two years of update support and two big os updates when it's actually qualcomm dropping support not Sony
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Qualcomm and Google won't support Snapdragon 801 and not Snapdragon 810 ( Xperia Z5) ... btw Snapdragon 615 is on a host of phones which probably are going to get Nougat update its only that disgusting Sony wont offer any more updates Samsung and LG, Huawei will still support their Snapdragon 615 ( very good chance)
and visit this http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...t-24-months-os-updates-current-future-phones/
Huawei has promised 24 months of updates for all its devices going forward 2016 onwards Honor 5X with snapdragon 615 will be getting nougat because unlike Sony Huawei cares about their users
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Oh right, it was the 800 series ?

Nougat Update is now available?

I just had a notification for the update and have no idea what it is about.
By looking its size (around 700Mb? can't remember) I am guessing it is update for Nougat...
I will find out if the update is complete but is there any one who already finish the update?
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Build 36.0.A.1.111
Kernel 3.18.22+
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....it wasn't the nougat update... phew...
is there any one know what v36.0.A.2.136 update is about?
Im on UK Unbranded and its a fairly hefty 670Mb.. which is build 146 .. still MM 6.0.. but not sure what it fixes...
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....it wasn't the nougat update... phew...
is there any one know what v36.0.A.2.136 update is about?
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I just had this update in the US last week with this OS version, and no news when we will receive new Android OS.
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....it wasn't the nougat update... phew...
is there any one know what v36.0.A.2.136 update is about?
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Updated with thus new update. They just included the December security patch and also now Google duo (video calling app like imo) is an system app. U can't un install it but can disable it. Other than this no visual changes
Well it seems that XA series(XA,XA dual, XA ultra, XA ultra dual)will get the nougat on July for European single SIM versions- and for the rest of the world and
dual SIM versions the update will be delayed till 1 August 2017.but something is weird because even the old Z3+ get the nougat..And then I found on some forums the main problem is MTK processor,he is not so powerful as we think,the specifications are only "on the paper" if you know what I mean that's why almost 70%of phones with MT6755 use the manufacturer own modified OS(color os,MiUi, Flyme Os,etc)and just because Google force big manufacturers on the market to add more and bigger ****ty apps on their phones with every update,for example if u remember the older version of "Google Play Services" for Android 6.0 was 17 MB now it's 40MB and there are many other examples,actually there are some rumors that Google will not allow mobile producers to modify the next Android 8 (Oreo) because Google plans to have their own stock interface for all the mobile phones on the market,that's why Samsung developed their own operating system called Tizen OS project and last update release was like 12 days ago,the new interface now available on Samsung S8 and S8+ is part of Tizen project...
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Well it seems that XA series(XA,XA dual, XA ultra, XA ultra dual)will get the nougat on July for European single SIM versions- and for the rest of the world and
dual SIM versions the update will be delayed till 1 August 2017.but something is weird because even the old Z3+ get the nougat..And then I found on some forums the main problem is MTK processor,he is not so powerful as we think,the specifications are only "on the paper" if you know what I mean that's why almost 70%of phones with MT6755 use the manufacturer own modified OS(color os,MiUi, Flyme Os,etc)and just because Google force big manufacturers on the market to add more and bigger ****ty apps on their phones with every update,for example if u remember the older version of "Google Play Services" for Android 6.0 was 17 MB now it's 40MB and there are many other examples,actually there are some rumors that Google will not allow mobile producers to modify the next Android 8 (Oreo) because Google plans to have their own stock interface for all the mobile phones on the market,that's why Samsung developed their own operating system called Tizen OS project and last update release was like 12 days ago,the new interface now available on Samsung S8 and S8+ is part of Tizen project...
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I noticed apps are increasing in size (MB), which is affecting the performance of my XA ULTRA. It also infuriates me that this is 16GB storage while XA1 Ultra is 32GB. I have had to delete apps as I don't have the needed space, and some apps cannot be deleted, even though there are some that are completely useless to me.
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I noticed apps are increasing in size (MB), which is affecting the performance of my XA ULTRA. It also infuriates me that this is 16GB storage while XA1 Ultra is 32GB. I have had to delete apps as I don't have the needed space, and some apps cannot be deleted, even though there are some that are completely useless to me.
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Just updated OS yesterday, tried OTA and failed when it became available Thursday or Friday last week, here in the ?? US. Actually, was around a bit over 908 MB, which as I previously stated, had to delete or roll back apps to gain enough memory so I could update to new OS. It somehow provisioned memory space that is now much more efficient than previous OS.
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