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Hi,
I have a Moto 360 (2015) 46mm and my wife has a Moto (2015) 42mm.
Her 42mm model Powers Off at 84% Batterien.
So i like to replace the battery.
But i don't find any Infos about the battery model for replace it.
Did anyone replace the battery allredy?
I see other people oft the Moto 360(2014) did this successfull, and they report many extra hours with the new battery (same mA).
Like to do this as well for the 42mm and the 46mm Version.
The Moto 360 (2015) comes in 42mm and 46mm versions.
Haha true
I've the same issue.
I've send the watch in twice for repair but they didn't do anything to it.
Now I've my watch back, it wasn't able to turn on at 25% charge according to the watch. Even when the watch is not powered on during transport, the battery drained slowly.
I checked with a usb power tester how many mAh got into the watch from 25% to 100%: 245mAh
Which doesn't sound weird considering energy loss of wireless charging + the watch was turned on and using power.
I'm starting to believe it might not be a battery problem but a software problem... It's very strange to say the least
Ooo that sucks, 245mAh which model you have ?
I will ship both today and see what's happening.
42mm one
But how does that suck? The battery is only 300 originally and I charged 75%
So the capacity still is around 300mAh
WPtE said:
42mm one
But how does that suck? The battery is only 300 originally and I charged 75%
So the capacity still is around 300mAh
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It sucks that you send the moto two times to the reapir service and they do nothing.
If you say you think its a software issue, since how long you have this problem ?,
Because we see this also on wear 1.5,
But if you say your mAh tester say it load just 75% and the watch was off, this sounds for me that the battery is broken, and it can use not all cells of battery.
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It sucks that you send the moto two times to the reapir service and they do nothing.
If you say you think its a software issue, since how long you have this problem ?,
Because we see this also on wear 1.5,
But if you say your mAh tester say it load just 75% and the watch was off, this sounds for me that the battery is broken, and it can use not all cells of battery.
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Oh yeah, repair is just a joke.
If I go directly to Motorola they even charge money for shipping. First time I've seen a manufacturer do that
So I just go to the store for repair, they send it for free to the same repair company.
Yeah, basically the capacity of the battery it ~240mAh now, which isn't too bad since originally it should have been 300mAh.
But after some testing it over the weekend it's still as bad as before the "repair", turning off at 60, 70, 80% etc. It's just stupid
As you said, a replacement battery is just non-existent apparently.
I can't even find someone who opened the watch.
Since I still have warranty I don't really want to mess about with opening and replacing the battery myself anyway
So I guess I'm going to go back to the store once more and check if I can trade it in for something else
The real issue is though: there aren't really great android wear watches at the moment imho
My considerations atm:
Asus Zenwatch 3 (slightly older model, no rotating crown, no hr monitor but stylish)
LG Watch Style (small battery no hr monitor)
Huawei Watch 2 Classic (bulky, no rotating controls, no hr monitor)
I guess I prefer the Zenwatch the most. I guess it comes the closest to the moto 360 experience
After looking at several posts in XDA and Reddit, it seems that the BLOD or BootLoop of Death is happening to devices everyday as we approach the 2 year mark of the N6P release. Seems like a hardware issue or maybe a combination of both. My question is that do you guys think that this issue is actually a large number of lemons or that there is really a design flaw. Will all 6Ps eventually BLOD? Is it a matter of If or When?
Also it seems that the batteries were indeed pretty bad, with 4 users that I know personally all experiencing the degradation.
Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
Eric214 said:
I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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Curious if you've seen or heard anything that'd validate your fear... it's certainly reasonable to be cautious, and it does NOT look like an easy process by any means but why the heat gun? It's a very common tool to use for jobs like this.
But to be clear, I too worry the phone won't look/feel the same after a successful battery replacement.
Of course skill levels vary greatly.
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Curious if you've seen or heard anything that'd validate your fear... it's certainly reasonable to be cautious, and it does NOT look like an easy process by any means but why the heat gun? It's a very common tool to use for jobs like this.
But to be clear, I too worry the phone won't look/feel the same after a successful battery replacement.
Of course skill levels vary greatly.
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I've seen or heard nothing, but since I'm upgrading to OP5 I was going to sell my 6P to help cover some costs. Looks like they are still selling for about 300-350. That's a nice chunk off the 540 of the OP5. My phone shows zero signs of wear and have never once dropped a phone. It looks like it came out of the box last night and plan to keep it that way for sale.
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I've seen or heard nothing, but since I'm upgrading to OP5 I was going to sell my 6P to help cover some costs. Looks like they are still selling for about 300-350. That's a nice chunk off the 540 of the OP5. My phone shows zero signs of wear and have never once dropped a phone. It looks like it came out of the box last night and plan to keep it that way for sale.
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Gotcha. And thats a hell of a deal! I've been thinking of upgrading, OP5 is really tempting. If I got $350 for my 6p itd be like a 45% discount. Much better than the trade-ins carriers give you.
Edit-No it's like a 70% discount! $539 for 128 gb 8gb ram. For some reason I thought the base model came in at around $700
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Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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Really glad to see that you've preserved your battery well. I had to repair/replace my mobo and battery under warranty but I'm worried that the issues will happen again eventually due to poor manufacturing.
I just saw this over at the google tracker and wanted to share it.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37130791#comment598
[email protected] <[email protected]> #597 Jun 24, 2017 07:53AM
For those of you hit with this problem and who have been denied warranty or are having no joy with either Google or Huawei, I have found a solution, albeit not the best of solutions but one that will have at least have a 60% chance of bringing back to life your Nexus 6P.
So after running some solid tests over the last week and abit on a few Nexus devices hit with the BLOD, I have found the following:
* BLOD Issue is not a software related Issue, Well not in full only in part, 6.0.1 handles and reacts to the sudden voltage drop that happens with the shockingly bad battery in our phones, it reacts to the loss differently so something changed in the newer versions 7.X.X that must trigger the battery to do something different and then causes the phone to BLOD, though the 6.X.X train was not entirely immune from it, the phone would hold up longer.
* Through various tests both with electronic hardware and software on the phone, you can physically watch the battery health drop sharply on a daily basis, these batteries are really that bad.
* The OEM Battery is a POS, when it gets put under load the Voltage tanks and tanks sharply, when it is not under heavy load and running at <31deg/cel the phone will work but only if the following conditions are meet... (1) The motherboard has not been fried by the battery shorting it out, a small IC chip appears to get damanged by it from what we can tell when we did testing on about 4 phones, but not on every phone or (2) the battery health is well enough to keep powering the phone.
* Here is where the problem gets interesting, the more the battery gets put under load, the more it degrades and rapidly, my current Nexus 6P 128GB Frost White version which is getting replaced on Monday by Google is down to 36% battery health, meaning if it drops below 60% battery life the phone just shuts down, so to prevent it from going into bootloop I have to keep it above 60% and each day the battery health is dropping even more roughly a 1% very two to three days at the moment.
* So we decided to put in a Generic battery into one of the 64GB versions that is stuck on BLOD, and it was nothing more than a battery from HK some cheap no-name of eBay, and BOOM! The phone boots up and comes to life again...
* However I have noticed a pattern on three devices I tested this on over the last week, I think the original battery at some point ends up damaging the PCB (Motherboard) and from what we could observer this would be the norm, if your battery is spiking and doing all sorts of things it shouldn't be, it has the potential to fry other components. There isthree of us doing these tests with one being an electronics engineer and the other two of us just being tech heads who repairs phones as a hobby.
* Now if we put back in the OEM battery, guess what? The phone would not boot up, it would just BLOD and on the meters the battery would just spray out wild voltage and all over the joint, these are really crap and awefully bad batteries that Huawei have put in the Nexus 6P, In fact we are not sure why they dont blow up like the Note 7 phones did, given how erradic the voltage spikes are.
* I can safely say that the Huawei made Nexus 6P has a huge problem with the installed battery, which by extension is also causing electronics to fail if it gets caught in the BLOD for too long and overheats the phone. My advise, if your phone goes into BLOD then don't strain, stop using it stright away, dont stree the phone too much, get the battery replaced ASAP, find someone who knows how to open it and replae the battery inside of it with a $7-$16 battery that you can get of eBay, this will at least bring your phone back to life.
I have spent about $400 on testing this to get to the bottom of it, having to buy batteries, run multiple tests, and also buy broken Nexus 6P Phones, at least I can get some of it back by selling the phones that have been brought back to life I guess.
Good Luck peeps, and my advice is to stay away from any Huawei Phones, because if has happened to this phone which was supposed to be a flagship, then it can happen to other Huawei phones if they are using the same or similar batteries, unless they knew all along and have changed them.... Which now makes me wnt to buy other broken Huawei phones and see if they have changed them.
Cheers,
David.
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cyberedward said:
Really glad to see that you've preserved your battery well. I had to repair/replace my mobo and battery under warranty but I'm worried that the issues will happen again eventually due to poor manufacturing.
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Yeah, fortunately I haven't had any issues with hardware on my phone. I'm curious if we'd ever see numbers hardware failure rate.
I've loved my 6P. I'm gonna miss the front facing speakers and QHD display. I may not notice the difference in 1440p to 1080p done I don't need with VR.
I share the same experience as Eric214, I have the phone since November 2015, my Accubattery show 93% 3191, I have all update installed thru OTA. Never rooted or installed custom ROM, here is my stat from Accubattery
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Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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I have literally never gotten that much sot on this phone, I feel like even if I didn't install any apps and left it in airplane mode I still wouldn't.
My new s7 edge gets me crazy battery life, but the 6p has been disappointing as far as battery life goes.
I think the bootloops and battery dissipation are caused by overheating of the 810, though that's just my professional opinion. Components don't like heat, especially when packed so closely together.
I had this battery issue after 14 months, replaced it 10 days ago - AccuBattery said my battery had something about 40%, now it says 101%. Everything back to normal.
Funny thing is: a month ago, AccuBattery showed 88% as well, everything working fine. Suddenly, 52% and the shutdowns began (no BLOD). I lived with this scenario for 15 days (battery health going down fast), almost bought an iPhone to replace it. Digging around I found a post from a Brazilian dude that brought its N6P back to life buying a battery from a given seller in a known online platform here and I decided to give it a try - battery and replacement costed 12% of what I paid on my phone. I expect to have it working until Pixel 2 pops up.
I'm in the group that after just 14 months my battery is at 67% of it original capacity and my SOT is around 2 hours. The worse battery performance of any phone I've ever owned. And I take care of my battery rarely will I let it drop below 60%, as I try to avoid deep discharges that harm battery longevity.
But no boot looping thus far.
as for the long post mentioning updates from MM to Nougat, i believe that the only thing i defintely did notice was with the battery behavior, the first weeks it took much longer to fully charge the battery , and it freaked me out.
now it is kind of normal again, i rooted my 6p the day i have got it haha.
i love flashing custom roms/kernels.
had the 6p for about 10 months now, i love it and really hope that it won't let me down quick.
at least another year would be nice, or 2.
So according to what @cyberedward mentioned from Google tracker replacing EOL battery with new Huawei made battery is like setting timer in a time bomb to another value ...
I don't know if they'll all bootloop but the battery is crap. After my experience that I documented in another thread, Id doubt anyone who's used the phone for a year has a battery thats holding anywhere close to full capacity.
Mine also shuts down at 20%. Now 4 days out of warranty. I'm gonna fight with the people at Huawei to get it replaced but best case scenario, I have to find a temporary phone for however long it takes to get it fixed.
3 year old phone?-I guess cut your loses.
But within a year?... complete BS! It's defective and they should recall them all.
***And to the OPs original question--what sucks is theres no known cause for the bootloop so you could get the battery fixed and within days, weeks, months you might also deal with that.
http://techlife.samsung.com/tips-keep-smartphone-charged-1059.html
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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Wow I did not know any of this. I will be following this thanks for sharing.
how long is the battery lasting if you are only going down to 50 and up to 90?
Gees! Below 50% really. I would tend to agree somewhat. I never let my phone fall below 20% and usually charge until 97% more or less. But 90-50. I don't want to be walking around with a battery back. I need my phone to last all day and 40% of the battery just won't cut it.
Xuck that !! I have a 3000mah battery for a reason if it goes then it goes ill most likely have another phone by then.Not gonna sit here to nickel and dime my usage that's not why I got this phone .
GM makes the Li batteries last in the volt and bolt 10 years by not letting the car drain the batteries more than 2/3rds down, leaving the batteries at 1/3rd charge. Tesla does it too.
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Nah, I don't own my phones for more than a year so this doesn't apply to me. I'd rather keep using it from 100-1 just like I've been doing for years. I wouldn't be able to stand only getting an hour of use and charging it 3 times a day.
This battery information applies to all devices that use this type of battery be they Samsung or other brands. Its not just the Note 8. It applies equally to your Oral-B tooth brush! :laugh:
Ryland
this is a good habit to charge often at 50%. i usually let the battery run down to like 20% or less then charge. then when i have to go somewhere and i cant play with my phone anymore cus i worry i going to run down the battery.
Question are the "300-2500" charge cycles just as it says? I mean if I put it on the charger in the car for a 10 minute drive is that a cycle along with an overnight charge? If it is we should really only be putting it on the charger from the 50-90% with a guaranteed fast charge time of at least 30+mins to get the maximum charge cycles for the lifespan?
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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This was a really well written down to earth article about battery care. Thank you. I still have friends, family, and coworkers that insist on running their batteries to 0%. I can't convince them otherwise. Although my batteries degrade, it's never been anything easy shattering. Just notice an hour or two shaved of over a couple years life. As the article states, there is no way around this and I won't be a slave to my battery. In that note, I top off when I can.
My battery on my old phone tended to get to around the 40% at the end fo the work day, then I'd plug it in usually around the 20-30% and it still lasted 2+ years 'til I got a new battery. Now it's about 50% at the end of the day. But with Fast Charge, what do they expect people to do, plug it in for an hour, then unplug it, then go to sleep, wake up with 60% battery, go to work and then charge it for an hour when you get there?
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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Too black and white.
It is possible to offer some water resistance to a mobile that has a removable battery, S5 for eg.
In general such water resistance is small and is often abused by the owner causing problems. Hardly any owner reads the instruction manual that outlines what ones device can and cannot do, what the IP rating means in REAL terms etc
"Forced obsolescence" mmmmm, a battery can be changed in the Note 8. I understand your point though.
Ryland
this has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too small a batteries in its top of the range device!
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this guff has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too smaller batteries in its top of the range device!
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Totaly agree......
We then have to ask 'ourselves' WHY! Who forced Mobile brands to make anorexic devices? WE DID. We wanted thin small large wide slim ...........we got it and now pay the price.
I personally don't care if the device is thicker with a larger battery, for me its not a problem. For so many size was a major issue so the manufacture's listened and came up with these ultra thin mobiles that are vulnerable to dropping and breaking etc. off topic.
I find it totally bizarre that we spend mega bucks on such devices only to find we are educated to use them on software that reduces said mobile to the performance of a phone costing 100€! I may add many posters where disappointed when the Note 8 didn't have a 4k screen! Can you imagine the battery issues then?
Now we read this Samsung article and find we would need to charge our mobile several times a day as well as run it on a vastly reduced software programme. In reality that article is saying the battery is only operating efficiently at 40% of its total capacity before we start to degrade its life! Its all so absurd. What are we doing here folks?
Only one answer to this, either drop the performance OR vastly improve battery technology and fast.
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I'm not sure how usefull this is for the new samsung phones though, as the release of the S8 Samsung improved the battery.
Samsung Mobile R&D VP Bookeun Oh told me, "I focused on maintaining the durability of the battery over the long term, over hundreds of charging cycles. For example, after approximately six months of normal usage, the battery in the S8 will outperform previous batteries. While most batteries hold about 80 percent of their charge after two years in usual cases, this battery should be capable of 95 percent of its original capacity."
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PC mag S8 review
I am sorry but i will use my phone all day and charge overnight. If you can't use past 50% what is the point???? My pixel xl i have had since day 1 and use all day everyday and charge overnight and noticed no real decrease in battery life except a little change with oreo!
Outdated info and not necessary.
0% on your device is still considerably above what is considered the bottom line cell voltage before excessive discharge detrimental affects capacity.
A lot of engineering has gone into these devices to squeeze every possible mAh out of the packs, have a decent life expectancy AND operate safely. There is no need to strive for certain numbers and forcibly change your usage habits. There may or may not be a demonstrably better result long term but honestly is it worth worrying about?
And for removable packs...
Forget it. That's a thing of the past.
If devices had battery life like the Skyrocket, sure I see the NEED for a swappable pack.
But not now.
Having a sealed device makes it feel solid and keeps intrusion protection intact.
Holding an older device in hand, it seems almost laughable today. It creaks and groans and feels super cheap in comparison like some dollar store toy!
Hello everyone,
I'm not normally on the Moto Z Forums, but i currently (as the techy guy in my family) am faced with a strange issue. I have 5 people in close relationship (Parents, wife, husband of my sister...) with Moto Z's. Every single one of them is acting really weird. They all randomly shut down between 50% and 15%. After turning back on, they state anywhere between 1% and 5% charge left. On plugging the charger in, they claim 100% charger within under 30 minutes. Battery life between those 5 phones varies between poor and abysmal (sub 1h SOT to 2h SOT).
All those things aren't phone specific. Every single phone has shown any of those combinations. All of them are out of warranty. Since most of them depend on their phone daily without replacements at hand atm, i'm not able to spend days unlocking, flashing, rooting or the likes. I'm trying to convince my wife to let me factory reset the phone, but atm, she'd rather live with it then having to re set up 3 years of phone usage (i get that to a point. Not how i use my phone, but "normal" people are different in that regard).
I already read several thread around degraded Batterys, but this doesn't seem to be the case here. The biggest Problem are the random shutdowns. You never know when, below 50%, the phone will just turn off.
Additionally, two of those phones sporadically Have malfunctioning microphones. In calls and recordings they occasionally only transmit static noise. Usually that fixes itself within an hour or two (without any intervention).
I'm at a loss here. Any tips on what to try to mitigate those Problems? Since we're at a point where most affected are debating buying new phones, i'm willing give anything a try (as far as i can get someone to give up their phone for a day). Thanks for reading all of that.
domsch1988 said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not normally on the Moto Z Forums, but i currently (as the techy guy in my family) am faced with a strange issue. I have 5 people in close relationship (Parents, wife, husband of my sister...) with Moto Z's. Every single one of them is acting really weird. They all randomly shut down between 50% and 15%. After turning back on, they state anywhere between 1% and 5% charge left. On plugging the charger in, they claim 100% charger within under 30 minutes. Battery life between those 5 phones varies between poor and abysmal (sub 1h SOT to 2h SOT).
All those things aren't phone specific. Every single phone has shown any of those combinations. All of them are out of warranty. Since most of them depend on their phone daily without replacements at hand atm, i'm not able to spend days unlocking, flashing, rooting or the likes. I'm trying to convince my wife to let me factory reset the phone, but atm, she'd rather live with it then having to re set up 3 years of phone usage (i get that to a point. Not how i use my phone, but "normal" people are different in that regard).
I already read several thread around degraded Batterys, but this doesn't seem to be the case here. The biggest Problem are the random shutdowns. You never know when, below 50%, the phone will just turn off.
Additionally, two of those phones sporadically Have malfunctioning microphones. In calls and recordings they occasionally only transmit static noise. Usually that fixes itself within an hour or two (without any intervention).
I'm at a loss here. Any tips on what to try to mitigate those Problems? Since we're at a point where most affected are debating buying new phones, i'm willing give anything a try (as far as i can get someone to give up their phone for a day). Thanks for reading all of that.
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Random shutdown is a common battery problem known in all types of lithium cell batteries (very common in used laptops), it's very common in Moto Z due to small battery(degrading is more visible) and overheating(degrading happens quickly)
However, the bigger problem is that some phones show 100% charge without the battery actually charging to 100%. To test if your phone is affected by this bug which appears in degraded batteries, simply turn off the phone when it shows 100% and connect the charger while it's off and it should show different battery percentage (for me it shows 96%), you can further charge the battery for 1hour while it's off even if it shows 100% and you will notice a much better SoT
domsch1988 said:
I already read several thread around degraded Batterys, but this doesn't seem to be the case here.
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what you're describing IS a symptom of degraded batteries. once the batteries start to go bad, the % indicator can't be trusted.
If you're a DIY sort of person, maybe this might be useful to you:
https://ifixit.org/blog/11644/motorola-ifixit-partnership/
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Moto-Z-Replacement-Battery/IF368-002-2
Hi it's been a while since I have been on here. I just wanted to say that googles decision to aggressively cut back the charging as the battery fills is one of the best things they have done in a long time. I personally have used a chargie on all my phones since the pixel 2xl. For those of you who don't know what chargie is it's a device that goes between the brick and the phone and is controlled by an app using BLE and you can set the parameters however you like. I had the phone charge to 80 then it cut power and dropped 3 percent to give the battery chemistry time to settle down then it would.lick back on and charge back to 80 and repeat until I unplugged it. It also has a top off feature that you can set so you can have your phone at 100 before you go if you have a nice set routine which I do not. It also cut the wattage down to like 7 what's or something so there was no fast.chsrgine there. If I did need to fast charge I would use the 30w charger I have. Anyway chargie did not work with the pixel stand so I paied for the pixel stand and pretty much never used it. Then I saw an article about Googles new charging policy.. I gotta say I am so happy now I can use my pixel stand and my phone pretty much never charges past 79 which is fine for me. And if I need it to charge to 100 I just reset it and turn off adaptive charging. But it's very rare 5hst I need to do that. It was a smart move on googles part because there is going to be people who keep this pixel 6 for the full 5 years and if the battery doesn't last they are going to be replacing batteries constantly.
For anyone who has any doughts about this charging method and how effective not is let me just say that I have a pixel 3a xl that we got as soon as it was launched it was my wife's phone for 2 years it is now being used as a security camera. It has always had a chargie since the day I got it. And now it sits on plugged in 24/7 but I still use a chargie. Let me just tell you according to accubattery the health of that battery is still at 99% capacity. And it has been sitting on a charger for almost a year straight. That means almost no degradation to the battery. I don't.know about any of you but I find that pretty amazing.
I hope.that other phone manufacturers follow suit and build.these protections into our devices. It is good to have the capability to charge up fast in a pinch but that should be the only time it is used in a pinch. The rest of the time slow and steady wins the race. I think everyone should look into chargie it works for anything with a battery not just phones the newer ones can set a pre determined limit and not even need the app. And I in no way shape or form work for chargie I just really believe in their product.
I totally agree with you on this. until we are able to obtain the new battery tech that are currently in R&D, we have to protect the current gen and make our device last as long as possible.
I just got my new pixel 6 yesterday and for the first week I'll be charging it to 100% back down to about 20% to check it's capacity and to get an estimate how long it could last me with my usage if I ever need to be away from the brick for some time. Accubattery is also running to put it all in numbers for me.
Once this is done, I'll set adaptive charging and let it charge to 80%, then unplug. I don't have the habit of charging while sleeping so I'll use 80% as my max normal ceiling. usually adaptive charging will slowly top it off to 100% just before your alarm goes off in the morning but i prefer leaving noting plugged while asleep...can never guess when those things might explode/cause fire.
Fun fact: samsung also has this thing in their settings now. they let you enable 85% charge. once enabled the phone restarts and still shows 0-100% but in reality charges the battery only until 85%.
Referring to stuff made out of graphene?
I'd love to see graphene supercapacitors for powering phones. While they have somewhat lower energy densities (1/2 or 1/3 capacity vs lithium), they're light and would last virtually forever. I'd happily double the thickness to get this.
However, the industry is probably going to lean towards graphene batteries. Substantially HIGHER energy density than lithium, and generally performs better in almost all areas, but its still a chemical battery.
So last a few weeks on a charge? Or charge instantly whenever you want? Either would be a lot better.
Battery tech has a long way to go IMO.
I mean we are making power with rocks. Kinda says it all.
I practice these same things to extend the life of my rocks