Rooting and Flashing New ROM General Question - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

*I am not sure where to post this since it is not device specific. . . and just a general question*
Thanks for a member I have a reply about how to root my MB525 - Defy!!!
That seems simple enough. Now I am left with a couple of questions before I root and look at flashing a new ROM onto my phone:
1. Can you or someone tell me if rooting will erase photos, texts, and/or apps?
2. And same question for flashing a new ROM. Will that, by nature, overwrite and erase photos, texts, and/or apps?
With my Defy, I can't see how I would back anything up or keep it safe for me to transfer back to my phone if a new ROM deletes everything.
It seems as though there are lots of good things about rooting into a higher version of Android, and I am trying to figure out what is the most current or best for my Defy to handle, but I really want to figure out how/if I can finally view silly emojis in my texts! :cyclops:
Thanks in advance for your time and reply,
Kristie

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[Q] DecafuctCFSv8 Kernel Is it safe to flash this with stock 2.1

DecafuctCFSv8 Conaps rom
If have the eris and it is rooted. I have setcpu and autokiller and all in all it works quite well but at times is still slow and very sluggish. I have always just read others information and never found a need to post any questions. However, my eris I bought from Ebay and sent to a person down in S. Florida to program it from verizon to work on Metropcs.. All is well and the phone works.
Just trying to speed it up a bit I came across a really good tutorial by jonsuh on here that suggests flashing a new kernel.
My 3 questions I cannot find answers for are:
1) If I flash the kernel above, the DecafuctCFSv8, is it stable with my current Eris 2.1?
My current kernel is2.6.29-DecaFuctCFS-dirty-ea33d448
2) If i flash the kernel will it change whatever settings that the programmer changed and make my phone no longer usable with Metropcs.
3)Nand backup, does it completely backup everything the programmer changed to make it work with metropcs? If i flash a new rom/kernel in the future and mess up can i just go back to the nand backup and restore it? Can you backup a nandbackup? Or copy the entire contents of your phone to the pc somehow incase of complete error?
My biggest fear is losing the programming settings he messed with to allow my phone to work on the metropcs network as I use my phone a lot for school/church
Thankyou for your help guys. This is my first smartphone. God bless
P.S. Sorry I could not post links to the above mentioned files/tutorial for support. Forum restrictions still consider me a new user and do not allow this for spam restrictions.
I googled a bit and found this thread. I don't know the answers to questions 1 or 2, but I can tell you that the 2.2 Eris ROMS are all very nice and speedy. I would recommend following the guide with Conap' CELB Froyo. It runs really nicely with the new governor in 3.6 and gets much better battery life.
As for #3 the answer is almost certainly yes. Nandroid takes disk images of the partitions on your phone and saves them on your sdcard. You can backup them up to your computer from there. Since you are only modifiying stuff on those disks when you flash something, Nandroid would be able to restore your configuration. I would make sure you have all those tools listed in that post I found before trying any of this and make sure you understand what that guy is talking about. I've never had to do any of that because I have Verizon. Looks like it might be a little stressful figuring this out for the first time. Good luck man.
Thankyou icebeer,
Is celb froyo a ROM you are suggesting I flash or just a guide? Is 3.6 a specific kernel

[Q] New Vibrant user needs advice on OS upgrade

Hello guys. I'm new to smartphones and Vibrant is my first. I bought one off ebay for $240 and it has Android version 2.1-update1 installed on it. I would like to know if you guys recommend that I ungrade it to Froyo or above. I've heard some bad things about Froyo and wouldnt like to regret doing the update. I've already backed up all apps on the phone. Just need your professional opinion on this matter. Thank you.
Well welcome to the world of the samsung Vibrant, lol, well obviously froyo us the best and You should upgrade and if you want, You should root your device and learn to put a "ROM" on ur phone like the ones below, and FYI, since u posted this in the wrong place, your gonna get flamed, next time post in vibrant Q and A.
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Nabeel10 said:
Well welcome to the world of the samsung Vibrant, lol, well obviously froyo us the best and You should upgrade and if you want, You should root your device and learn to put a "ROM" on ur phone like the ones below, and FYI, since u posted this in the wrong place, your gonna get flamed, next time post in vibrant Q and A.
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Ive already rooted the phone and unlocked it. How do I set the ROM? What is ROM?
mbison83 said:
Ive already rooted the phone and unlocked it. How do I set the ROM? What is ROM?
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A ROM is pretty much your OS. All these Froyo ROMs are really good, just know how to flash properly. I STRONGLY suggest you:
1) Consistently backup all your apps with "Titanium Backup" and google, AND make a copy of all your data on your computer.
2) READ, I suggest you read the Bible (it's Stickied at the top) and LEARN before you do ANYTHING.
3) And lastly, when you mess up, as EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE has, you will need to know how to revert back to STOCK firmware.
Keep this link close, it will save your neck:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
check out the rom vibrant bible thread all ur answers will be ther enjoy, oh and yes upgrade to froyo
bobbbb said:
A ROM is pretty much your OS. All these Froyo ROMs are really good, just know how to flash properly. I STRONGLY suggest you:
1) Consistently backup all your apps with "Titanium Backup" and google, AND make a copy of all your data on your computer.
2) READ, I suggest you read the Bible (it's Stickied at the top) and LEARN before you do ANYTHING.
3) And lastly, when you mess up, as EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE has, you will need to know how to revert back to STOCK firmware.
Keep this link close, it will save your neck:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
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For some reason Titanium Backup does not work for me. When I run it I get 0 as a number of apps installed and when I click backup all apps and system files it immediately says backup completed. I've been using the Flii Backup. Is that okay? How do I copy all the stuff to my PC? Thank you for all the info.
Also, should I go with the 2.3 Gingerbread version instead?
mbison83 said:
For some reason Titanium Backup does not work for me. When I run it I get 0 as a number of apps installed and when I click backup all apps and system files it immediately says backup completed. I've been using the Flii Backup. Is that okay? How do I copy all the stuff to my PC? Thank you for all the info.
Also, should I go with the 2.3 Gingerbread version instead?
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when you open Titanium Backup, does it say that it has been granted SU permissions?
If it does, then we're good so far. I've had that happen when I first used TiB on my hubby's phone. The way I got over that was to hit the menu button and select "Batch". You should now be on the Batch Backup/Restore - ALL page. From there, I selected RUN for "Backup all user apps + system data". That should force TiB to go ahead and make the backups.
Now, as for copying the files over onto your PC, just use plug in your USB cable and connect it to your PC. Your phone should emit a little tone or vibrate after this (or at least mine does but it's been a long time since I've used stock). From there, slide down your notifications bar (slide your finger from the top of the screen to the bottom of it) and you should see a note telling you that your USB is connected and if you hit that, it will ask you if you would like to mount your SD card (or something similar to that). Select "yes" and your PC will ask you if you want to open these "drives". Select "yes" again and now you will be able to explore the files on your phone the same way you'd do it on your PC.
As for the whole copy+paste thing, the files work the same as if you're copying files around your PC. Generally, I keep multiple backups on my PC, so it might be a smart idea to label your Titanium Backup file with name or date (ie: Titanium Backup - Stock JFD or Titanium Backup - ROMname blahKernel).
Afaik, we don't have a stable Gingerbread ROM yet but I think our devs are getting pretty close. However, we have several stable Froyo ROMs available in the Android Dev section.
Oniyuri said:
when you open Titanium Backup, does it say that it has been granted SU permissions?
If it does, then we're good so far. I've had that happen when I first used TiB on my hubby's phone. The way I got over that was to hit the menu button and select "Batch". You should now be on the Batch Backup/Restore - ALL page. From there, I selected RUN for "Backup all user apps + system data". That should force TiB to go ahead and make the backups.
Now, as for copying the files over onto your PC, just use plug in your USB cable and connect it to your PC. Your phone should emit a little tone or vibrate after this (or at least mine does but it's been a long time since I've used stock). From there, slide down your notifications bar (slide your finger from the top of the screen to the bottom of it) and you should see a note telling you that your USB is connected and if you hit that, it will ask you if you would like to mount your SD card (or something similar to that). Select "yes" and your PC will ask you if you want to open these "drives". Select "yes" again and now you will be able to explore the files on your phone the same way you'd do it on your PC.
As for the whole copy+paste thing, the files work the same as if you're copying files around your PC. Generally, I keep multiple backups on my PC, so it might be a smart idea to label your Titanium Backup file with name or date (ie: Titanium Backup - Stock JFD or Titanium Backup - ROMname blahKernel).
Afaik, we don't have a stable Gingerbread ROM yet but I think our devs are getting pretty close. However, we have several stable Froyo ROMs available in the Android Dev section.
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Yes. It seems to work now. I've used the Clockwork Recovery app and did backup through it. Would that be enough? Where is the Android Dev section? What do I do next? Thank you.
As far as the ROM goes. Which one would you recommend? I was looking at the Axura 2.3.1.0 and Ginger Clone R2. How about Nero v5? Thanks guys!
Welcome! And yes you should definitely update to Froyo, or a rom based on Froyo. I'm not sure what you heard that soured your opinion of Froyo...but it is a noticeable performance upgrade! It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler was introduced with 2.2 (someone fact check me pls) which should improve java performance multiple times.
I recommend Bionix-V 1.21 for a custom ROM made especially for the Vibrant. It's extremely fast and the community is friendly, helpful, and most importantly VERY active. I linked you to a guide that should answer any questions you might have regarding the rom, and android in general.
Arkasai said:
Welcome! And yes you should definitely update to Froyo, or a rom based on Froyo. I'm not sure what you heard that soured your opinion of Froyo...but it is a noticeable performance upgrade! It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler was introduced with 2.2 (someone fact check me pls) which should improve java performance multiple times.
I recommend Bionix-V 1.21 for a custom ROM made especially for the Vibrant. It's extremely fast and the community is friendly, helpful, and most importantly VERY active. I linked you to a guide that should answer any questions you might have regarding the rom, and android in general.
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Thank you. Unfortunately the link does not work for me. It wants me to sign up.
mbison83 said:
Thank you. Unfortunately the link does not work for me. It wants me to sign up.
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Yeah, forgot to mention that...but hey if you're gonna try the rom you might as well join their site ;P
Update: Ok, guys. I went to this link and got the Axura 2.3.1.0 installed with the use of this video, which is very useful and I was able to perform this flash flawlessly.
Anyway, The ROM is really responsive and I have only found one flaw, which is that the Fast Web Install app does not work on it. I get the message that they are working on it. Also, the Titanium Backup did not back up anything. All was backed up by the ROM Manager and the Flii Backup.
This ROM has impressed me with its responsiveness. It seems like a high-quality ROM and this is the first time I did the flash, so I'm not familiar with other ROMs. However, this ROM seems like a good pick for now at least. Can you guys advise me where I can sign up for notifications about the Axura updates? Any further suggestions? I appreciate your precious time.
In the Questions and Answers section, at the top, there is a NOOB guide... I would HIGHLY suggest reading it. It explains just about EVERYTHING you could want to do to your new phone!
As far as your next mod... start customizing your phone! Go to the Theme section of the forum and browse around for some custom battery mods and framework mods. It's CRAZY amazing how customizable these phones are!
I used to use the ROM's on here, but since Froyo came out, I'm sticking with a deodexed stock of KB1 (the latest and greatest update). That allows me to modify my framework and all the phone images without having to worry about screwing up one of the custom ROMs out there. I always feel safer with stock... plus root of course. Replaced my boot and shutdown animations with custom ones I created... don't have them posted on here as they are made specifically for my band and noone here would want them!
Keep your contacts synced to google so you don't lose them, backup with Titanium every once in a while to keep your game data and app data up to date, keep reading on here about modding, you could start reading the google developers website to learn about the inner workings of Android and how to write programs... so much to do and so little time in life!!!
Enjoy!
P.S. Everything that I've done to my phone (and it is quite a bit) I've done myself simply by reading these forums and researching everything on my own... you would be surprised how little you have to post questions on here if you simply take some time and read everyone else's posts. The search button up on top of every page is very useful!

[Q] A few questions for a good start! [Complete with the new Noob detector 1.0 app]

EDIT: simplified and updated with more questions. Over 100 views and so many unanswered questions!
UPDATE:
1- What is it that you backup when you backup your phone? Is it the content of the internal and SD card in one file? Or multiple files? Is this what's called a ROM?
Because last time I checked ROM means Read Only Memory, and my internal and Sd card are read and write.... ssssooooooooooo confusing.
1.1 Where's the OS (Android) installed? On the internal memory and on another partition?
2- I got my phone over at Koodo mobile. It's got their company name on the home screen. To avoid warranty problems:
2.1 Is this going to be copied over if I make a backup of the phone?
2.2 So many people suggest to just download a ROM of the stock version I got in my phone... would I have to find a Koodo ROM for the Optimus One or will any android 2.2 ROM do the trick.
2.3 Does putting a custom ROM or android 2.3 leave traces somewhere on the phone, even of you put back the original backup ROM?
3- How do you know if you made a proper backup and the size it should be?
Many thanks.
22vin:
- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
From the internal and SD card? All into one file?
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
Does KDZ make backups images of the phones, or is it only used to update?
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
So.... Custom recovery is ran from the phone and used for flashing KDZ is ran from Windows and used for flashing too?
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
I take that as a GPU overclocking YES.
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
(FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
MoonQuake said:
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[Proceeding with thread post...]
Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
[Updated poster N00b level: 3/10]
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
[Updated poster N00b level: 4/10]
Here are the questions: (FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
[Updated poster N00b level: 7/10] WARNING! N00b warning! Proceed carefully.
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
[Updated poster N00b level: 8/10] WARNING! Critical level! Prepare your N00b bio suit if you dare answer!
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
[Updated poster N00b level: 10/10] ALERT! Shutting down the app to prevent lack of knowledge damage from noobish user. Exiting...
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
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- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
Thanks for the answers 22vin.
The overly careful person that I am asks:
- How do you call the backup of the whole phone data?
- When you do this backup, does it create 1 file, or multiple files? I ask this because I still don't understand how these phones work. Are they like gaming roms and emulators where you get a rom (copy of the cartridge) and you can also add other roms to change the way it works? Like a mod?
I got about 50 other questions, but it's mainly because I don't exactly know what ROMs are in smartphones.
It would be awesome if somebody could point me towards a "Everything you need to know about android phones and custom ROMS" for dummies. I understand how to use it, but not how it works in the inside so that I can safely go ahead with flashing and stuff...
Does this make sense? Tech stuff about the way the OS works and what is a ROM and a kernel... so that I know what I'm doing.
OP updated.
100 views later and just one reply (thanks to 22vin btw) made me wonder if my questions were clear enough.
*ahem* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152306
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Thanks for the links, terra. I actually read all these pages already.
Finally re-read the whole dictionary page, and in addition to some other info I read, I could make sense of a lot more info.
The general info page uses terms that is not covered in the dictionary/terms page so a lot of info I can't understand.
Like the info about what the kernel does and why change it. Leads to a wikipedia generic kernel page.
NAND actually allows for creating a 1:1 copy of the phone's content. Probably a copy of the internal memory. Another guess is that the OS is also on that partition but I can't find that info.
About the SD card, it seems to allow the copy of some native apps.
Only thing that's not clear is if it leaves ANY traces on the phone after a recover from a backup.
The Os is no stored in the internet memory and sdcard, it's somewhere else you don't need to know about.
Yes, a Nandroid backup restores your settings before you flash a new ROM. You need to unroot it to make your carrier believe nothing has happened. Another way, you can flash kdz which will completely reset your phone back into into the state you bought it(minus the carrier installed apps).
You only can overclock CPU, not GPU.
Thanks for taking the time to answer, terra.
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
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dax4182 said:
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
Sent from LGE XDA phone
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It varies from country to country, carriers to carriers, phone manufacturer to phone manufacturer . Just a precaution.
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Truly stock help por favor

Ok, I've gotten the pure stock ICS and installed it. Now, something I have noticed is that no matter what I do, I can never get all of the files in my phones directory be completely stock. There are some that files left over from applications and such. I would just go "willy nilly" deleting everything i thought didn't belong in there except that the last time I did that I hard bricked my Captivate. I love my Note and don't want to hurt it!!! Any advice or screen shots of a truly stock file setup would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :cyclops:
condork464 said:
Ok, I've gotten the pure stock ICS and installed it. Now, something I have noticed is that no matter what I do, I can never get all of the files in my phones directory be completely stock. There are some that files left over from applications and such. I would just go "willy nilly" deleting everything i thought didn't belong in there except that the last time I did that I hard bricked my Captivate. I love my Note and don't want to hurt it!!! Any advice or screen shots of a truly stock file setup would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :cyclops:
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I dont understand your question or post. You want to keep your ICS completely Stock? Wouldn't be completely Stock if dont install any apps?
Or you referring to removing all the bloatware? Then you need to be Rooted, and then use a non stock app>Tibu to remove your bloatware?
But to be rooted there are measures to take to get Rooted.
clarification
what i am asking is when you go to applications then my files what does stock setup look like. i install and uninstall so much crap all the time and everything seems to leave folders and files behind. From time to time i'd like to just clear everything thing out that i don't need. In order to do that safely, however, i have to know what i DO need so i don't brick another phone. thanks.
the best way to remove the unwanted items on the internal SD, is to format the emmc in recovery (CWM)
this will "wipe" the internal space of the device, and repopulate only the specific device information pertaining to the rom on reboot.
but i caution you.......(please read this) !!
Although the risk is low, you can possibly delete items that you should not have. I.E.
data that you should back up prior to removal. photo's, documents, data from specific system apps etc.
But i've done this at least a dozen times since owning my note, as it strips all garbage left over from previous roms etc.
Again, you do this at your own risk, and i assume no liability from "your" choice to wipe the emmc partition, or any other partition on your device.
long story short, format emmc from recovery, and your internal storage will be "empty" as in nothing left. then on reboot, the device rom will re-populate the bare minimum file structure to run. So back up anything/everything you want to keep, and place it on PC...then it can be moved back if needed.
Now i dont know your skill level, or your root status etc. so if you are not rooted yet...see the "note everything" thread at the top of the general section. It is the best guide i've ever seen. and it will guide you through any process you want to use. with the exception of the one i just gave you...LOL
this method is no joke...and you "must" be sure that you understand what you are doing, and how to recover the device if something goes wrong.
good luck, and be careful !!!....g
Outstanding Sir! Thank you very much. Worked wonderfully. It's amazing how the little things can really brighten your day.
condork464 said:
Outstanding Sir! Thank you very much. Worked wonderfully. It's amazing how the little things can really brighten your day.
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done already ?
Nice !...........:highfive:
Glad to have helped you......g
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If you dont mind, could you edit your thread title to include the word "SOLVED" ??
It helps users find answers faster, and keeps the sections clean..
Thanks !!....g
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done already ?
Nice !...........:highfive:
Glad to have helped you......g
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If you dont mind, could you edit your thread title to include the word "SOLVED" ??
It helps users find answers faster, and keeps the sections clean..
Thanks !!....g
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[Q] How to make proper Backup?

Hi guys,
i'm still very new to this whole Android world and learning each day so please help me understand this problem i'm having. My phone is i9305 (EU model) just for reference.
First off i would like to know if this is possible to do without rooting or hacking since i like to be able to do OTA update and not mess to much with the phone if possible. If this is not possible then i could root. I actually tested rooting using the CF-Auto-root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
So What i like to know is how can i backup and restore my phone is the same shape as it is today. I know that i cant back-up my private data without rooting and for now lets say i dont care about that part. What i like is to be able to backup all
- the applications
- my folders and how i can organized everything
- my desktop and how i have organized everything
- everything else like my background and other system settings.
I tried one to do a system restore+clear cache and my phone was reseted as my day one. When i connected to my google account it started downloading all my applications but sadly everything was just dumped in the application window without my previous structure so google dont save any settings. I did get my background and contact/calendar info back which was good.
So does anyone know how one can make a type of backup/restore i'm after?
I tested titanium backup and my Backup (when i had rooted) but didnt see an option for the mentioned features.
ps. Since i used iPhone i'm a bit spoiled, itunes does a great job doing a proper backup with the whole application/user data when making backup and the restore does restore everything like all your settings, background, folders where you organized the applications so i'm looking for something similar in Android. I had expected Kies to do this but it only saves basic stuff which seems to be the same as Google saves in the cloud (like contacts and such)
Grateful for any tips in this regard.
search, all the info is out there for you to read.
you'll need a custom recovery
Glebun said:
search, all the info is out there for you to read.
you'll need a custom recovery
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Thanks i think with your keyword i mange to search for something meaningful
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
It seems the CWM is the way to go. Seems like a very powerful tools. One thing i still dont know is if it back up the whole OS or just the application/data ?
For instance if i do a backup when i'm on build AB and then install AC and clean my system and do a restore what do i end up with?
AC + all my applications and settings?
or
AB + all my applications and settings?
just search for the definition of nandroid backup, don't expect spoonfeeding
Glebun said:
just search for the definition of nandroid backup, don't expect spoonfeeding
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If you know the answer why not just say it? This type if attitude isn't really helping me (or others as i seen you do the same on other threads). I will search more on it still but please remember why we are in this section and forum in the first place. If i knew what to look for i wouldnt ask. I have searched on the topic it but with thousands of threads its pretty much impossible to get a clear understanding of things and as mentioned i'm not that familiar with Android world.
it might be hard to imagine for you but not everyone are familiar with the rooting and hacking world and all the abbreviations and much of what is discussed is hard to follow for beginners like me.
Atleast if you want to be helpful provide a link or something
vampyren said:
If you know the answer why not just say it? This type if attitude isn't really helping me (or others as i seen you do the same on other threads). I will search more on it still but please remember why we are in this section and forum in the first place. If i knew what to look for i wouldnt ask. I have searched on the topic it but with thousands of threads its pretty much impossible to get a clear understanding of things and as mentioned i'm not that familiar with Android world.
it might be hard to imagine for you but not everyone are familiar with the rooting and hacking world and all the abbreviations and much of what is discussed is hard to follow for beginners like me.
Atleast if you want to be helpful provide a link or something
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Install a custom recovery like clock work mod to do a full back up (nandroid backup). Download Rom manager to install the recovery (must be rooted)
Back up EFS what you can find an app to do.
Use Titanium backup to back up Apps and data.
If you want to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
Ashley covered it all. Breakdown:
To back up your ROM you need a custom recovery installed. Boot into it and select backup. This backs up absolutely everything at that moment in time.
-Your ROM settings, apps including data and settings, messages received.
However you can't transfer your app data between ROMs because it's part of an entire image. So you use Titanium to back up (for apps+app data) which can be used all over the place.
You'll want this if you ever switch back to an old ROM as when you restore that ROM you can restore your Titanium to update the app data associated to that ROM.
You can back up your launcher layout if it's third party as it's an app. Touch wiz launcher I don't think so.
Exynos SIII; CM10.1
Don't use rom manager for CWM.. I've seen it brick more phones than anything.
well, I told you want to search for. check the first rule of xda
the easiest i would say would Titanium backup pro. phone needs to be rooted. you sync to dropbox and other clouds.
i always have two back ups one is Titanium and the other is twrp
@Ashley1987, 23Six, xSpeced,Farooq_Chicago
Thank you for your valuable input. I think the conclusion is that titanium backup pro is the best way to go since i want to be able to use different ROMs. And nandroid backup if i want to restore on the same ROM. I actually have bought titanium backup pro so i will "play" with that once i root my phone again (not a big fan of rooting and stuff since i can use OTA update but it seems like the only option).
do you know if i actually get back everything as i have today (including folder structure on desktop and application menu) ?
I spend lots of time on doing this so its good to know before i try to wipe my phone and try
@Glebun, i think someone else need to read the rules as well! if i had to guess i would say you just post to get a high number of post under your name. You dont contribute to the discussion and are somewhat hostile in your posts. This attitude isnt helpful and is not appreciated by anyone. So if you cant help i suggest you simply dont post. And i repeat what i said earlier that i had investigated but when you are new sometimes you need someone to push you in the right direction and advice you which is the point of this forum and section. As you see there are many people who helped me and i appreciate that. You on the other hand just complain and wasted yours and my time on nothing useful. Please think twice before posting next time.

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