I have tried Remix OS 32bit and 64bit versions on my Dell XPS 12 laptop with intel core i7 processor and 8 GB of memory
I have noticed that the cpu fan kept working all the time and so much heat is coming out of the laptop.
I used a CPU monitoring software from play store and it showed that the system UI process is constantly consuming 25% of the processor all the time, I tested the 32bit on a very old netbook and the same fan noise and processor state at 25% all the time.
Any suggestions please ?
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I have tried Remix OS 32bit and 64bit versions on my Dell XPS 12 laptop with intel core i7 processor and 8 GB of memory
I have noticed that the cpu fan kept working all the time and so much heat is coming out of the laptop.
I used a CPU monitoring software from play store and it showed that the system UI process is constantly consuming 25% of the processor all the time, I tested the 32bit on a very old netbook and the same fan noise and processor state at 25% all the time.
Any suggestions please ?
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Only thing I know of and have done is disable turbo on my surface pro 2.....
Have added "echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo" line to system/etc/init.sh
If i load up Cpu-z app tho from app store mine sitting at 0-2% cpu on desktop idle
bigr1979 said:
Only thing I know of and have done is disable turbo on my surface pro 2.....
Have added "echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo" line to system/etc/init.sh
If i load up Cpu-z app tho from app store mine sitting at 0-2% cpu on desktop idle
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thank you for your reply. I have tried that and nothing changed. the system ui process is taking 25% of the processor power all the time
Hi, I am not sure if something to do with your hardware but I have remix os and x86 standard lollipop installed on my surface pro 2 and that sits at idle fine
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bigr1979 said:
Hi, I am not sure if something to do with your hardware but I have remix os and x86 standard lollipop installed on my surface pro 2 and that sits at idle fine
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Thanks again for your feedback. It is fixed now after updating the OS. Remix OS still in Beta state so many bugs are expected
Mine's the opposite, was fine with march release but runs quite hot now lol.
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Here's my question. I want to start with an app or two, but ultimately want to make it to roms, themes, etc. My computer however is a bit on the low end. 1ghz dual core, 1gb ram. Decent storage though 250gb. Is this not enough, sufficient, or great. Thanks in advance
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when your phone has a faster clockspeed than your desktop, it is time for an upgrade.
Bigandrewgold said:
when your phone has a faster clockspeed than your desktop, it is time for an upgrade.
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Except clockspeed is not the almighty determinant of cpu power that years of marketing would lead you to believe. That CPU could still run circles around the phone CPU for various architectural reason I won't get into because it's too much to explain and no one will likely be interested. However, 1ghz is slow, especially if you're going to be using a Java based (that is, built on Java) IDE like Eclispe or Intellij IDEA. I've used Intellij IDEA on my 2 core Atom netbook when I'm not around my desktop and it's just painful (and Intellij is faster than Eclipse). Java anything eats RAM like a fat kid eats skittles and drags your CPU like you're running a race with him on your shoulders. Intellij IDEA eats up around 600mb of RAM being open and Eclipse is around the same.
That amount of RAM is also low as well. Your system is already using at least 50% of that + whatever more for your GPU if you do not have a separate GPU.
Can you use that computer to do some basic application tutorials, theme and do small mods? Yeah sure. Will it be annoying to do so? A little, as things lag and you probably don't realize it as you're used to that system.
If you're going to compile Android from the source, then that computer will never work out. Android source needs around 8-16gb of RAM for 2.3.x and 16-24gb for ICS. A 4 core CPU such as an i5 or i7 is also recommended.
You could build a decent computer from parts made for compiling for probably 700-900 excluding a monitor. One for just apps and anything else for probably 500-600.
Yeah definitely time for an upgrade.
I dev on my laptop. It's a Toshiba Satellite L675D-7104:
AMD Turion II Dual Core 2.5GHz cpu, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, dual booting Windows 7 Home Premium and Fedora 16.
It's a decent mid-range computer, nothing too special. It does the job as far as building ROMs. It can build from source, but takes a pretty long time.
Thanks folks. I will be dispatching my computer promptly, office space style
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haliwa04 said:
Thanks folks. I will be dispatching my computer promptly, office space style
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No need for that, I use old computers for linux test boxes quite a bit as you don't need that much to run it with just the command line. I'm sure someone will take it off your hands if you put it on Craigslist or give it to the thrift store.
I got my awesome shiny new XPS yesterday. I am very pleased with it.
But today i began looking at tweaking and customizing it.....but i have noticed something quite disturbing.....
The phone doesnt seem to have both cores active!!!
When i check in "SystemPanel" it shows the list of 2 cores but only shows 1 as active......so i checked with "CPU Usage Monitor" and that lists the phone as only having 1 core?!?!
Is there a geek out there that can help me with this issue?
Is it me being a twot...or is there something that i dont know about?
From what i can tell the second core doesnt come on during gaming or benching.....
Im lost
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I got my awesome shiny new XPS yesterday. I am very pleased with it.
But today i began looking at tweaking and customizing it.....but i have noticed something quite disturbing.....
The phone doesnt seem to have both cores active!!!
When i check in "SystemPanel" it shows the list of 2 cores but only shows 1 as active......so i checked with "CPU Usage Monitor" and that lists the phone as only having 1 core?!?!
Is there a geek out there that can help me with this issue?
Is it me being a twot...or is there something that i dont know about?
From what i can tell the second core doesnt come on during gaming or benching.....
Im lost
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Could you run benchmark quadrant and post your score here with a screen shot?
That app shows the same here, but linpack shows me 55mflop for single thread and 84 for milti. My quadrant is 3280
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You wont see the second core active unless it's needed, when you're looking at the usage windows the mobile doesn't need to use the second core.
Run something like titanium backup as it's a background process at the same time as the usage monitor app.
-smc
somemadcaaant said:
You wont see the second core active unless it's needed, when you're looking at the usage windows the mobile doesn't need to use the second core.
Run something like titanium backup as it's a background process at the same time as the usage monitor app.
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so the second core doesnt kick in till its needed?
7hr08ik said:
so the second core doesnt kick in till its needed?
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Yep thats why I asked you to run the benchmark tool ;-)
7hr08ik said:
so the second core doesnt kick in till its needed?
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Thats what he said.
I have heard a couple of times around the forum that second core is actually underlocked heavily and doesn't kick in even if needed. Is that true?
Adellheid said:
I have heard a couple of times around the forum that second core is actually underlocked heavily and doesn't kick in even if needed. Is that true?
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Nope. Where did you hear this rubbish?
2nd Core does work!!!
I had tested on 2nd Core by using Quadrant Standard...
(I installed SystemPanel Lite to check for CPU)
While the full benchmark is running, long press the home button and then open SystemPanel Lite,
I can see both cores are running fully...
This shows that the 2nd core does work!!!
Gingerbread does not fully utilize both cores. Some apps do. Honeycomb does have dual core support and ics should have proper multicore support.
it's like windows XP and windows vista/7
XP wasn't designed for dualcores but vista and 7 are.
Yeah like the other guys said, people go on about quad cores and stuff, some phones including the Xperia S aren't even using dual cores let alone quad cores unless they are running ICS, when ICS hits then we will.
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I am currently running Remix OS for PC Hacked Edition 2.0.205 on a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 (P25W-2300C-4k) 2 in 1 notebook. When booted into Remix the fans are generally running all the time. I though reducing the CPU would help with the heat and therefor reduce the fan use. I did something similar in Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04 and it works perfect. The notebook has a Core I7 Dual core 6th gen CPU so I should be able to reduce my clock by half without any problem. When I downloaded an oveerclocking app from the play store my only options were 400Mhz and 3.0GHz, there were no speeds in between. I tried another app and found the same thing. Has anyone else tried to under or over clock their CPU in Remix and found the same issue, only seeing two possible clock speeds?
Thanks
After testing out a bunch of the overclock apps in the play store I found one that seems to work. For anyone interested it is called 3C CPU Manager. I am only able to underclock my CPU because the kernel of Remix OS doesn't seem to support overclocking.
This is a fairly major issue with RemixOS and the myriad of hardware running it currently. With such a small team working on it, I imagine it's impossible to enumerate all the hardware configurations out there, especially legacy. Personally, I just fried another chip on RemixOS, a Nvidia quadro fx 3600m, out of a dell precision m6300 (rather upsetting), tinkering around and running the hacked edition as well. These cards were suspect due to solder issues anyway, but I believe it had a lot more life left in it. I never noticed until it was to late in my case, the fan's on my system weren't enumerated/activated whatsoever, until a hard shutdown-reboot, and the fabled blue lines of death it has now. I'd be especially careful with watching your cpu/gpu temps, and doubly cautious on which programs/games you decide to run through remixOS, as I have no doubt with the plethora of apps available, there are many floating around that can run your card in way's it was never intended.
Thanks for the info, I am only interested in underclocking my notebook rather than overclocking it. It just happens that the apps used are typically called overclocking apps. With how hot Remix runs on my notebook I wouldn't even consider overclocking. Remix currently runs at 1 GHz max (CPU capable of 3.1GHz) using the app I listed above and my fans come on far less than they were before. I am fairly certain underclocking worked for a few reasons, my computer doesn't run as hot, the fans are not running 24/7 and validated the clock speed using ZCPU and cpuinfo in /proc. In addition to the extra power draw from the fans, I was also worried about the fans failing from running so much. Replacing a fan in a desktop is one thing, replacing a fan in a compact notebook like mine is well, not so easy. Sorry to hear about your card, I would be quite upset if my notebook/graphics chip fried. Hope yu don't mind i'm going to use your info to update my article. Will give credit due
I saw my notebook CPU running most of the time >80 C in Remix OS. It never happens in Windows or Linux. Isn't that it is related to the underlying structure of Android on x86?
Hi, I've tried running Remix OS off a USB stick on a pretty rubbish old emachines laptop with an AMD Athlon 2650e and a Mobility Radeon X1200. I get constant flickering and black triangles all over the screen. I get no issues if I boot with nomodeset but it is extremely low res and laggy. Any ideas on how to fix this? Cheers.
Yeah...no. Jide considers PCs as having Intel only hardware: Intel CPU and Intel graphics.
NVidia and AMD are not Intel so they are not PCs - so no support.
Really it should be called "Remix OS for old Intel laptops" instead of "Remix OS for PC".
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Hi, I've tried running Remix OS off a USB stick on a pretty rubbish old emachines laptop with an AMD Athlon 2650e and a Mobility Radeon X1200. I get constant flickering and black triangles all over the screen. I get no issues if I boot with nomodeset but it is extremely low res and laggy. Any ideas on how to fix this? Cheers.
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Unfortunately, you're going to have to use nomodeset for the time being until more drivers are added to Remix OS.
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Unfortunately, you're going to have to use nomodeset for the time being until more drivers are added to Remix OS.
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But let's be complete in this answer. Using nomodeset when not having an integrated graphics card means CPU overheat as every simple and singular animation on the screen will be rendered by the CPU. Even if you have the best Intel Core i7 with Hyperthreading technology and latest overclocking ASUS or MSI gaming motherboards - it will be of no use. Your system will crawl while running Remix OS and the CPU will overheat.
Do not take lightly the overheat issue. I almost fried my CPU because I left it update all my Android apps with the Google Play Store on the screen. Remember all those download animations in the Google Play Store app while updating? Yeah...my CPU was screaming at 70-80 degrees for about 10 minutes. 10 minutes while updating 5 apps - because WiFi is also a ***** in Remix OS. Enjoy...
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But let's be complete in this answer. Using nomodeset when not having an integrated graphics card means CPU overheat as every simple and singular animation on the screen will be rendered by the CPU. Even if you have the best Intel Core i7 with Hyperthreading technology and latest overclocking ASUS or MSI gaming motherboards - it will be of no use. Your system will crawl while running Remix OS and the CPU will overheat.
Do not take lightly the overheat issue. I almost fried my CPU because I left it update all my Android apps with the Google Play Store on the screen. Remember all those download animations in the Google Play Store app while updating? Yeah...my CPU was screaming at 70-80 degrees for about 10 minutes. 10 minutes while updating 5 apps - because WiFi is also a ***** in Remix OS. Enjoy...
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With a crappy Athlon processor using nomodeset seemed like everything was running at less than a frame per second. The thing gets hot enough as it is. I've tried Chromium, Remix and Android x86 and every one has the same graphics issue. Guess I'll have to go back to something like Linux lite. Even that manages to lag.
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With a crappy Athlon processor using nomodeset seemed like everything was running at less than a frame per second. The thing gets hot enough as it is. I've tried Chromium, Remix and Android x86 and every one has the same graphics issue. Guess I'll have to go back to something like Linux lite. Even that manages to lag.
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As I said before, go buy a Chromebook. It's cheap as a very old second-hand laptop and it works great. You will soon get Android Play Store so you'll be able to run all your favorite Android apps. Plus you will get guaranteed quality and an officially supported Google device. Throw away your old PC - you don't need it anymore. There's nothing to justify keeping it around. With Remix OS you'll always run into hardware issues. Get a new, cheap, properly supported device. 200 EUR for a new, good looking, fully supported and that will soon have all Android Play Store - what are you waiting for?
EDIT: sorry if that sounded like a bad and cheap commercial. It's just that I don't understand the need for a hacked, lacking, limited Remix OS when we have the official Google supported solution: Chromebooks.
i just installed remix os 3.0.207 64 bit version and my laptop cpu fan is spinning at maximum speed and it is so noisy. its spin normal when i boot on windows 10, it's spinning on max speed on remix os only.
i also cant turn off the remix os, keep stuck at shutdown screen and i must force shutdown by holding the power button. please help.
my hardware :
asus rog gl552vx
core i7 6700hq
16GB ram
Nvidia GTX 950m GDDR5 4GB
i recommend to not use remix on some hardware
it does not have all the fail safe on some hardware
and it can result in thermal damage.
it could be remix does not have the driver for your computer thermal sensor
and this can explain the fan speed...
tailslol said:
i recommend to not use remix on some hardware
it does not have all the fail safe on some hardware
and it can result in thermal damage.
it could be remix does not have the driver for your computer thermal sensor
and this can explain the fan speed...
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too bad then... i really love remix os.... especially the multitasking ability... the only problem is the fan speed and cant shutdown... hope they update the driver....
Mathvediz said:
too bad then... i really love remix os.... especially the multitasking ability... the only problem is the fan speed and cant shutdown... hope they update the driver....
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just cap the max cpu speed
HypoTurtle said:
just cap the max cpu speed
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how to cap it?
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how to cap it?
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Any cpu tuner on the playstore should work fine. But maybe try kernel auditor
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Any cpu tuner on the playstore should work fine. But maybe try kernel auditor
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i will not in your case.
those apps are made mostly for arm.
and in the case of x86 this can result in thermal damage in your device.
i can just say we decline all responsibility in case of damage...
tailslol said:
i will not in your case.
those apps are made mostly for arm.
and in the case of x86 this can result in thermal damage in your device.
i can just say we decline all responsibility in case of damage...
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All those apps are doing is controlling the kernel via the files in /sys [and /proc] arm/x86 has very little to do with it. The [/proc and] /sys systems are I believe pretty similar between x86 linux and arm linux.
Alternatively you can locate where the max clock rate is listed/read from and alter it yourself, but this won't persist a reboot.
As an example in my case:
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq shows the clockspeed
running echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo disables my cpu's turbo maxing the clockspeed at 800000Hz
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All those apps are doing is controlling the kernel via the files in /sys and /proc arm/x86 has very little to do with it. The /proc and /sys systems are I believe pretty similar between x86 linux and arm linux.
Alternatively you can locate where the max clock rate is listed/read from and alter it yourself, but this won't persist a reboot.
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the differences is:
android is mostly set up with passive cooled arm device.
x86 need active cooling.
if you reduce the cooling of your device to much
overheat will happens.
simple and logic.
android can sometime not include all the fail safe x86 use,
this is why some devices have been damaged by remix.
tailslol said:
the differences is:
android is mostly set up with passive cooled arm device.
x86 need active cooling.
if you reduce the cooling of your device to much
overheat will happens.
simple and logic.
android can sometime not include all the fail safe x86 use,
this is why some devices have been damaged by remix.
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I see what you mean.
Though the issue seems to be the cpu running at max [likely due to temp. sense data not being read/delivered as you said]; but OP has stated the fans are running - if they weren't it would be a greater issue [and I don't recall suggesting to turn them off].
So I'd still say it's worth capping the CPU which should help with the fan noise due to the generated heat. If just changing the governor doesn't seem to be doing much. [performance gov. for example will keep cpu as high as possible]
I'm running a passively cooled core M so no fan but without disabling turbo the cpu stays at ~max [2.0GHz] and is noticeably warm.
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I see what you mean.
Though the issue seems to be the cpu running at max [likely due to temp. sense data not being read/delivered as you said]; but OP has stated the fans are running - if they weren't it would be a greater issue [and I don't recall suggesting to turn them off].
So I'd still say it's worth capping the CPU which should help with the fan noise due to the generated heat. If just changing the governor doesn't seem to be doing much. [performance gov. for example will keep cpu as high as possible]
I'm running a passively cooled core M so no fan but without disabling turbo the cpu stays at ~max [2.0GHz] and is noticeably warm.
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i've tried to cap the core speed with kernel auditor but the fan keep spinning at maximum speed. i didn't feel any heat from my device. kernel auditor can read the cpu temp, it ranging from 40-45C. i think remix doesn't has the driver to control the fan speed for my device. maybe sixth generation processor with ddr4 ram are not supported yet.
Mathvediz said:
i've tried to cap the core speed with kernel auditor but the fan keep spinning at maximum speed. i didn't feel any heat from my device. kernel auditor can read the cpu temp, it ranging from 40-45C. i think remix doesn't has the driver to control the fan speed for my device. maybe sixth generation processor with ddr4 ram are not supported yet.
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yes as i said the thermal sensor is not seen by remix.
so it default by 100% fan speed.
you will need something to control directly the fan speed.
but you will have to take care you will have no fail safe if your computer is starting to overheat.
you should try android x86 to see if you have same issues with it.
some computer are just not meant to be used on android.
Mathvediz said:
i've tried to cap the core speed with kernel auditor but the fan keep spinning at maximum speed. i didn't feel any heat from my device. kernel auditor can read the cpu temp, it ranging from 40-45C. i think remix doesn't has the driver to control the fan speed for my device. maybe sixth generation processor with ddr4 ram are not supported yet.
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As @tailslol said be careful if the heat becomes an issue. But after a spot of google-ing there is a linux bug where fans stick at 100% and 'resetting' them seems to fix it.
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for i in /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device* ; do
type=`cat $i/type`
if [ "$type" = "Fan" ] ; then
echo 0 > $i/cur_state
fi
running the above flicks the fans off, they should power back up as needed after that. Test running that via termux # but make sure it doesn't create a thermal issue
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As @tailslol said be careful if the heat becomes an issue. But after a spot of google-ing there is a linux bug where fans stick at 100% and 'resetting' them seems to fix it.
running the above flicks the fans off, they should power back up as needed after that. Test running that via termux # but make sure it doesn't create a thermal issue
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I've tried to run the code in termux but nothing happen. i try to install remix 32 bit and everything goes normal, but remix 32 bit has slow performance, limited compatibility on some apps and can only read 3 GB of ram.
Mathvediz said:
I've tried to run the code in termux but nothing happen. i try to install remix 32 bit and everything goes normal, but remix 32 bit has slow performance, limited compatibility on some apps and can only read 3 GB of ram.
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it was worth a try at least - kind a surpised on your experience with 32bit - any specifics regarding apps?