[Tips&Tricks] [Nexus 9 16GB] Bypassing its main weakness - storage space - Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It never occurred to me before although idea is it not uncommon. I own Nvidia Shield K1 and Nexus 9 and one is redundant to me so I wondered which one to ditch. With all its virtues, no external sd card AND only 16GB are deal breakers for me, although that's the reason why Nexus9 16GB can be found for a bargain.
So, besides obvious USB OTG stick with external data which seems little awkward to me, I run Samba server on my Samsung S5 with its comfy 128GB sd card and access all the data I want with pretty much any file manager that runs Samba client (ES File Explorer will do). Tested several Samba-server apps and at least 3 of them (free) get the job done. Auto syncing that data is next logical step but that is common practice. Hope that helps...

it need high internet speed?
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Well, speed is considerably lower than copying inside of LAN but still useful. I got 300 Mbit router and copying to NAS goes up to 4-5 MB, PC does it 9-10 MB, and samba connection between 2 androids 500KB-1.5MB.

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Opinion: Phones without a SD slot

Opinion: I have noticed that a few Android phones like the HTC One S are designed without a microSD slot. I think this is a really bad idea for both the microSD slotless phones themselves and Android as a whole. I would suggest that consider this when buying any phone without a microSD slot because every phone bought without one is a vote that says microSD is dispensable. Obviously the ultimate choice is yours.
In the future if unlimited plans become the norm and Android develops enough that on-line files can be cataloged and accessible just like they were on a microSD card, then microSD may become obsolete ....... those days are not here yet. I would gladly pay Dropbox to store all my music files on line, but playing them from on-line is rudimentary at best. PowerAMP or the Stock Android player can't catalog the files so finding and playing them is a mess. There is also no cover art or lyric support either. Also if every file must be cataloged and that means downloading the whole music collection one, at a time which would take weeks.
In my opinion, the direction Android should be going in is providing a decent sized non-removable memory block built into the phone to run the OS and store Apps, at least 16GB. This way the memory access in uniform, quick and direct with none of the quirks that SD cards exhibit. The microSD card should be completely isolated from the operating system except to provide simple removable storage like a flash drive. The micoSD card slot should also be on the outside of the phone so it could be swapped out live.
I think that at least with Froyo, moving apps to the SD card didn't work well. Some Apps worked OK, but eventually almost every app had some problem or another. Some apps also caused errors that resulted in read only access or worse.
Unlimited plans are going away, I doubt they will make a comeback. With data becoming more and more expensive now, the cloud is becoming a more impractical storage model. I hope Android phone makers keep microSD slots around as I will not buy a phone without a microSD slot. Unfortunately this means passing on the last generation of Nexus devices.
On phones with enough internal space the external SD card is mounted separately and some internal memory is mounted as a virtual SD card. This allows apps to be installed on the phone's virtual SD card so you can remove the external.
For me personally as long as there's 16GB on the phone, I have no need for more. I suspect the majority (60-65%) are also the same as they dont use much space at all. There should really be a poll on this.
I've done without the microSD slot for 2 years on my Nexus S and I don't really miss it. Music Storage? with Google Music's 20,000 song storage, how can you not use it in some way? Half my music is on Google Music and my hot playlist/albums are on my phone. The only thing i find that's really taking up all the space are the games.
16gb is enough for me. I find 32gb and above too much.
I need more than 16. With my current phone I have a single gb of internal storage for my apps, 10gb on my sd card, another 3gb for root stuff (ROMs, backups, titanium backups), and then another gigabyte of pictures and app data. Since I don't get to access all of my SDcard, I've only got 400mb left
I would keep SD cards. Sure solid block memory is nice, but I think SD would be more handy, and much cheaper.
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I have 16gb internal , and a 16 gb sd, and I need more. Having no sd card slot is not acceptable, and the reason I don't buy nexus devices, or the one series HTC devices.
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I was in your position as well.
Love the design of the One S, but the lack of an SD card made me chose the GSIII.
I bought the 16GB version and threw a 16GB SD card in.
This is what I have used in terms of memory.
Internal:
- 8.44GB available, 520MB to apps, 502MB to pictures
External:
- 6.25GB available, 7.02GB songs (1700 songs), 243.2MB Backups
I think you should gage what kind of things that you keep on your devices.
For me, it's clear that I needed an external card, you might not.
i would be okay without an sd slot if the phone had 32 or 64 gigs of internal storage.
an sd card slot is needed now a days. Even with cloud based music and such, what about the times when you can't grab stuff from the cloud? Like flights, areas with very poor signal (the gym for me) or other such things. I don't see why they can't give that option as a standard or given. I'd be happy with 16gig internal and an SD card slot, but without the slot i can't keep all my music on the phone itself. I don't want to have to rely on streaming with the cloud to listen to music, and with games and apps these days requiring more space where is that all going to go? Some games download an extra few gigs, so 8gigs will fill up really quick.
There is no reason not to give phones an sd card slot, its a big con in my book. Unless the phone has 32 gig or better yet 64 gig internal storage.
I don't see a problem with not having an SD card.
I've easily got by with my HTC desire with an 8GB SD card.
Sometimes I think people keep things for the sake of it.
For example I was keeping nandroid backups from 6-8months ago
I keep about 500 songs a load of apps/games.
If I want any more music I've got cloud. I've never got the notion of carrying around 1500+ songs.
At 3.5 minutes a song that's 87+ hours worth of music. Who the hell has the time.
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Until smartphones start coming out with 64GB and 128GB options, I will continue buying phones that have removable SD.
Even then, I still like the idea of a removable storage device for things like backups, sharing music, photos, etc...
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From the OP ..... It seems like a number of people are happy with storing their music on-line. As an avid DropBox user I can see the charms of on-line storage for some type of files, like documents.
However music files just do not currently lend themselves to on-line storage primarily because it doesn't really matter how many files you can store on-line if they are slow to get to and are un-cataloged.
When music is on a microSD card, the default Android music player or PowerAmp does a very good job of cataloging them, and you have album art and for PowerAmp lyrics too. Both are very slick and it is very easy to generate playlists or find exactly the file you want. No on-line service can play files ever close to as easily and elegantly as default Android music player or PowerAmp can when files are on micro SD.
If on-line playing of tracks were as good an experience as microSD, I would be the first to use it as there are some limited advantages.
microSD for music provides the very best music experience AND it is 2 year old technology. This elegant working technology is being removed from new phones and being replaced with something much more complicated, slower, more inaccessible with greatly reduced functionality.
It is not a good direction for Android
Just remember that a few short years ago almost every single phone was completely locked down and most wouldn't ever turn on unless a activated carrier SIM card was present. My HTC Desire Z worked quite well without any SIM card except for making calls. Android was the biggest breath of fresh air I have seen in the phone industry, and I see the premature removal of microSD and nonremovable battery as the 1st step towards Apple's model and the bad old days when your phone so clearly belonged to the carrier and not you.
Sirandar said:
Just remember that a few short years ago almost every single phone was completely locked down and most wouldn't ever turn on unless a activated carrier SIM card was present. My HTC Desire Z worked quite well without any SIM card except for making calls. Android was the biggest breath of fresh air I have seen in the phone industry, and I see the premature removal of microSD and nonremovable battery as the 1st step towards Apple's model and the bad old days when your phone so clearly belonged to the carrier and not you.
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Don't worry, with the amount of OEMs out there that make android devices, there will always be somebody willing to add microSD slots to their phones to get sales. Most OEMs still do include them, its really only the Nexus devices that don't include them.
To throw my 2 cents in here.
The mobile phones developed fast these few years but people still think that they should trade music player, PC, and a game console for 1 phone.
I don't think phones were made for constant use of music games and other things because the battery inside of them are still weak and the Android phones were made just for CASUAL listening to music and gaming it SHOULDN'T replace your MP3 player or gaming console.
I myself have a 16 GB MP3 player with me that can endure playing for over 25 hours (more than enough for 2 days)
As for the photos i have a Dropbox (18 GB), Sugarsync (over 24 GB) and Box (50 GB) and 2 of them (Dropbox and Sugarsync) have a automatic upload for pictures so whenever i snap a picture its automatically uploaded to the cloud and in settings you can change if you would only like to uplodad trough Wi-Fi and Data or Wi-Fi alone and if you don't trust cloud (for privacy) you can buy an app called FolderSync that can sync your photos to your NAS, FTP server and even to the clouds (Box) on a schedule like every hour or at specific time (at 3 AM while you are asleep).
And the app also support for 1 way or 2 way Sync so if you just do 1 way you can delete all the pictures on your phone but they won't be deleted on your server/cloud.
So i'm pretty good with my HTC Evo 3D with ONLY 8GB storage and i have 3 GB of data per month and as technology grows so do Wi-Fi hotspots and almost everywhere there is a Wi-Fi Hotspot near you.
So i don't see any problem with 16/32 GB storage without SD card slot and will probably get myself a Nexus 4 soon (after i save some money lol).
From the OP to Hreidmar
I can agree that PCs and Laptops are not going to be replaced by smartphones for a long time yet. Quite simply PCs and laptops can do things that are inconvenient or impossible on a smartphone. Games on the phone are cute and have their charms but phones dont have the power, depth or screen space to run a game like Skyrim (Sadly the plot of that game could fit into a small corner of a smartphone )
However, for anyone who carries a decent smartphone, MP3 players are obsolete. They were obsolete the second Froyo Phones (or Iphones) hit the market and microSD hit 32Gb.
My deceased HTC Desire Z and a 32Gb microSD card together made an astoundingly good MP3 player that was always there because my phone was always with me. All I needed to carry was a small pair of decent earbuds.
32 GB of storage was just enough storage to cover a good sized music collection at 96kps Ogg. You may ask " Why would you want to carry around your entire music collection?" I would reply, "Why wouldn't you want to, do you really like syncing and leaving half your music at home"
The standard augment is that you couldn't possibly listen to 32Gb of music on the road. This isn't about the number of tracks. It is about playing the exact track you want, when you want it, spontaneously and easily. It is also about never ever having to sync tracks again except when you buy some new ones. It is about freedom of choice and freedom from syncing. This freedom was already here 2 years ago.
The combination of Android ICS or JB with a 32, 64 or 128Gb microSD card is a perfect MP3 player. The Android Stock player is great and you can search through and make playlists effortlessly. The audio system on the HTC One S is also great AND your phone is always with you. It is a WIN WIN WIN except that the big phone makers are crippling their phone with no microSD slot and puny 10Gb of storage.
To put it in perspective, I bought a 32Gb flash drive for 10$ and the actual chip is even less expensive. Apple is gouging end users for storage to subsidize the rest of the phone. micro SD lets the cost per GB float closer to reality.
Hreidmar said:
To throw my 2 cents in here.
The mobile phones developed fast these few years but people still think that they should trade music player, PC, and a game console for 1 phone.
I don't think phones were made for constant use of music games and other things because the battery inside of them are still weak and the Android phones were made just for CASUAL listening to music and gaming it SHOULDN'T replace your MP3 player or gaming console.
I myself have a 16 GB MP3 player with me that can endure playing for over 25 hours (more than enough for 2 days)
As for the photos i have a Dropbox (18 GB), Sugarsync (over 24 GB) and Box (50 GB) and 2 of them (Dropbox and Sugarsync) have a automatic upload for pictures so whenever i snap a picture its automatically uploaded to the cloud and in settings you can change if you would only like to uplodad trough Wi-Fi and Data or Wi-Fi alone and if you don't trust cloud (for privacy) you can buy an app called FolderSync that can sync your photos to your NAS, FTP server and even to the clouds (Box) on a schedule like every hour or at specific time (at 3 AM while you are asleep).
And the app also support for 1 way or 2 way Sync so if you just do 1 way you can delete all the pictures on your phone but they won't be deleted on your server/cloud.
So i'm pretty good with my HTC Evo 3D with ONLY 8GB storage and i have 3 GB of data per month and as technology grows so do Wi-Fi hotspots and almost everywhere there is a Wi-Fi Hotspot near you.
So i don't see any problem with 16/32 GB storage without SD card slot and will probably get myself a Nexus 4 soon (after i save some money lol).
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From the OP => Google Music
When I complained about the lack of microSD and tiny amounts of storage space on my HTC One S,a number of people pointed me to Google Music
As a Canadian I can't use the service to upload music. It isn't going to come to Canada in the foreseeable future either IMO, or Amazon MP3 would be already available.
Looking at it trying out the parts I could I think that Google Music may be a viable solution to accessing decent size music collections on a smartphone on the go.
Advantages: It seems to be able to catalog the tracks and give the end used an experience similar to having local music files on a SD card.
Disadvantages:
1) No data connect no music. Google tries to fix this by caching frequently used music, but chance are the track you want to play won't be available when the is no signal or you are forced to turn data off.
2) Data charges: An MP3 is fairly big and constantly playing tracks will add up to significant usage. A 2GB plan would probably make this irrelevant.
3) The music data is streamed. Streamed data means there may be dropouts and stutter if there high internet traffic volume. Downloading the whole track at once may be better.
4) Google is giving end users a large cloud space to upload tracks for free. However it is quite obvious that Google is only doing this to mine metrics about what type of music serious appreciators of music listen too so they can populate their music store with music. Once Google gets its data the free storage
will probably end or be replaced by paid storage. I personally wouldn't mind paying for the convenience of accessing files on-line as long as it is cheap and the data transfer rates are high.
Lastly, I would still much much more prefer to store all my music locally on a microSD. It is so much simpler, robust and fast.
Heck... Pics, vids, tunes... I have to have an SD to keep me going. Currently have 16g on the phone and a 32g SD card. There is no way I'd buy a phone without a SD slot!

[Q] 16 GB Nexus 9.... too small?

Hey Guys, I was able to pickup the nexus 9 16 GB from htc hot deals but have not opened it... I am worried it will be too small and I was planning on selling it off but am not sure what to do.
What are your thoughts? If I get USB-OTG device w/ a big SD card and load TVs/Movies on there will I be ok...?
any thoughts would be much appreciated!
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What are your thoughts? If I get USB-OTG device w/ a big SD card and load TVs/Movies on there will I be ok...?
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It will be ok, but its kinda weird to have a usb dongle hanging out of your tablet... I personally wouldn't swap it for another tablet, as it really kicks a$$, but 32GB is way more convenient
If you got one of the HTC hot deals, I would use it at 16 GB. I debated and eventually just bought the 32 GB. I hated to spend an extra $80 on what amounts to a couple dollars worth of silicon, but I got enough of a discount on the tablet that I ended up spending the extra $.
I've had a 16GB Moto X for a while now, and I here is what I do. Store most of my music in the "cloud" and only pin albums to my device that I'll want to listen to when in remote areas w/o connectivity. With a tablet, this option depends on how much connectivity you have (cell tether, wifi, etc...). It just takes a little planning to make sure the audio files you want are on your device before leaving wifi.
For video, I use OTG. But OTG didn't work for me out of the box on the N9. I'm sure CF's Stickmount will do the trick or you could probably modify your platform.xml to get OTG to work with something like a Meenova (much smaller than a dongle and regular thumb drive). I haven't tried either option yet as I need to swap my N9 out (hardware issues). Do a little searching out here and see what others are doing for OTG (and both options require root).
Bottom line: for the $200 deal, you can't go wrong.
Dude... if 16GB is to small then so is 32GB...
Its not like all of a sudden you can keep hundreds of bluerays on there or something...
I am just as mad as everyone else with this price gouging on space and yeah if you had 128GB plus.... it would be useful but 16 to 32... just doesn't really make a difference.
Hi there, for OTG ES file explorer does the trick on stock (you just need to find your USB storage in the file directory), unrooted, as does Nexus Media Importer.
can you install apps and stuff on on expandable storage in 5.0 lollipop?
Depends what you use it for.
I have 2 1080 movies couple of apps
No music
Plenty of space left
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Hello All,
Lets not forget that the Nexus line of tablets do not ship with SD Card support and do not permit mounting storage devices via USB OTG Cables so you are pretty much stuck with the storage on the device.If you are willing to root, you can enable mounting of storage. CloudStorage and WiFi Storage solutions are your best bet to expand the storage.
going to sell it instead... seems like too much hassle

[Q] Ultra slow speed while transfer files between PC and Samsung S5

I just got my new Samsung Galaxy S5, original ROM with version 4.4.2. It uses a new Toshiba 64GB speed U3 micro SD card.
When I transfer my WhatsApp folder from PC to GS5, it took me more than 24 hours!!!
The WhatsApp folder has about 3GB in size, and thousands of received/sent images.
At the first time, I transfer them from PC to the (fast) SD card in the phone. It really took me more than 24 hours. At the second time, I tried transfer them from PC to the phone internal memory. It seems to be a little bit faster. I did not wait it to complete. But I assume it will take 20+ hours also.
When I use the file manager in GS5 to copy the entire 3GB folder from SD card to phone internal, it takes only 5 minutes or less. (It's a U3 card afterall)
I did a small test. I transfer only the database files from PC to the SD card (in the phone). There are 7 files, in total 1 GB in size. It takes only 1 minute.
So my guess is, the transfer speed will be ultra slow when it contains many small files.
The same issue happens in different fast computers.
I have also tried transfer back from phone to PC, speeds are roughly the same.
I used the original USB cable, and tried on other short and average quality cables.
I prefer not to pull my SD card out every time. Even if i do, transfer from PC to phone also have the ultra slow speed issue.
I know there are threads suggesting to transfer file by other methods. But my concern is: Why is it so unreasonable slow? And I prefer using the USB method.
Is my phone a defect?
Thanks a lot!
Please let me know if your Android 4.4.x with MTP transfer has this problem or not. Many thanks!!

[Q] To 16GB or not to 16GB, that is the question

I'm located in India where the Wifi-only 32GB Nexus 9 model is not available. The choice is either 32GB/LTE or 15GB/Wifi-only. I don't really want to pay extra for LTE which I don't plan to use. I'm wondering how the storage is partitioned on the 16GB model. I'm not planning to put too much in the way of videos and other media on the tablet (I'll use some Wifi connected storage device for media). I've got a Galaxy S2 with 16GB that has its storage partitioned such that while there is plenty of storage free the space for applications is filled up. Will I suffer from this with a 16GB variant of the Nexus 9?
Go with the 16gb
No point about paying $200 more for a 32gb
Note you will have 11.5gb free on the 16
I had a N7 2012 that was 16 gig and only time I ever filled up the storage was when I had a bunch of ROMs stored. Why I got the 16 gig N9 I couldn't see in spending that much for 16 gig of more storage. If I need more storage I can use an otg cable and connect an USB memory stick but over all 16 gig has served me well and I had the same concerns of would 16 gigs be enough when I was first looking at getting s tablet.
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It depends on what you do with you tablet, knowing that if you already have music on Google Play Music you don't have to store it on the memory (i.e, works too with Drive etc.). Same for videos, where you can keep on using wifi local connection with your PC or NAS.
So unless you install 6 big games of 1+ GB or memory use, 16GB (actually 11,5 GB free) will be all enough, no need for more !
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I'm located in India where the Wifi-only 32GB Nexus 9 model is not available. The choice is either 32GB/LTE or 15GB/Wifi-only. I don't really want to pay extra for LTE which I don't plan to use. I'm wondering how the storage is partitioned on the 16GB model. I'm not planning to put too much in the way of videos and other media on the tablet (I'll use some Wifi connected storage device for media). I've got a Galaxy S2 with 16GB that has its storage partitioned such that while there is plenty of storage free the space for applications is filled up. Will I suffer from this with a 16GB variant of the Nexus 9?
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Hi, iamroddo...
My 16Gb WiFi-only Nexus 9 has about 11Gb of user space available... for user installed apps (games, utilities, widgets, tools, etc.) and content (documents, images, videos, music, etc.)
See screenshots below for outputs from my various diagnostic apps.
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On all of my Android devices, I tend to keep content (music, pics, documents, videos) stored either on a cloud based service (Box, DropBox, Google Drive, etc) or on an SD Card (as on my HTC One M8 phone). Obviously the SD Card isn't an option for the Nexus 9, as it doesn't have SD Card support. This frees up internal storage for the installation of apps... And also, because I do a lot of tinkering on my N9, I like to keep backups of software (eg. Titanium, NANDROIDs, etc) and they can consume a fair chunk of space!!!
Anyhow, I guess if you're not planning on using LTE, it does seem like a lot to pay for a feature you're not likely to use.
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One option, if you're looking for more (local) storage is to investigate something called OTG (On-the-Go) cables.
I remember reading about these a couple of years ago, when I got my original Nexus 7. It wasn't something I ever followed through, 'cos I had no need of of one. But essentially, and as I understand it, an OTG cable is a cable that you can connect a USB memory stick to the Nexus device via it's USB port. You'll also need software installed on the Nexus 9 to support it... I vaguely recall something called Nexus Media Importer being talked about at the time, as it didn't require the Nexus to be rooted..
Found the Google PlayStore link....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
This article is also worth a read...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/nexus-9-full-usb-otg-support
...in which it appears all that you need is ES File Explorer, to couple a memory stick to the N9, via an OTG cable.
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Anyway, just some thoughts and ideas, and perhaps something worth further invertigation and research.
Hope this of some use, and good luck in whatever you decide.
Rgrds,
Ged.

Micro sd speed on Tab S7/S7 Plus (An issue?)

So slow according to normal. What is your micro sd card speed on your Tab s7/s7+? (Same micro sd on windows or android device has 90MB/s read speed and 55 MB/s write speed. I'm using Samsung Evo Plus White series)
aoesp3 said:
So slow according to normal. What is your micro sd card speed on your Tab s7/s7+? (Same micro sd on windows or android device has 90MB/s read speed and 55 MB/s write speed. I'm using Samsung Evo Plus White series)
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What brand are you using? Not all microSD cards are equal. Especially, since there are several knock offs on Amazon. I have a Samsung 512GB EVO microSD card in mine and I don't encounter any speed problems.
gernerttl said:
What brand are you using? Not all microSD cards are equal. Especially, since there are several knock offs on Amazon. I have a Samsung 512GB EVO microSD card in mine and I don't encounter any speed problems.
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I have 128gb Samsung Evo Plus micro sd card. Card original. On windows or other android devices has no problem( Read:90MB/s Write:55MB/s on windows or other android devices)
gernerttl said:
What brand are you using? Not all microSD cards are equal. Especially, since there are several knock offs on Amazon. I have a Samsung 512GB EVO microSD card in mine and I don't encounter any speed problems.
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Could you test with this app?
A1 SD Bench - Apps on Google Play
Benchmark SD card to test IO read / write speed and check media performance.
play.google.com
I'm getting about the same. Did you encrypt your card? Mine is encrypted.
Encryption slows read/write speeds because it has to decrypt/encrypt when reading or writing.
I don't see any real world affects on performance.
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I'm getting about the same. Did you encrypt your card? Mine is encrypted.
Encryption slows read/write speeds because it has to decrypt/encrypt when reading or writing.
I don't see any real world affects on performance.
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Real world performance affected so much. Just try to write any files.
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Real world performance affected so much. Just try to write any files.
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How big are the files? How are you transferring them? Via USB from Mac/PC to the card in the tablet? Or from internal memory to the card?
If the former, your read/write speeds are going to be slower because you have to take into account the limitations of the USB cable and the bus speed from the USB ports on your computer and the bus speeds from the USB port to the card. Each transfer point is a place where it will slow down. If it is the latter, then your limited by the bus speed between internal memory and the card.
In either case, you will probably never reach the full read/write speed potential of the card. Even if you were to use a faster card, it won't improve your speeds all that much.
Internal memory to sd card or via usb or via otg doesn't matter.
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Internal memory to sd card or via usb or via otg doesn't matter.
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Sorry for the slow response. In both cases you are subject to the internal bus limitations as well as card limitations.
Think of it as flying from New York to LA with a stop in Dallas. All three airports are big and the planes are fast, but in all three cases you are slowed down. You have to wait in line to get through security and get on the plane, then wait to take off, then wait for the plane to get to its gate in Dallas, etc. Each point is a bottleneck.
The point being is that anytime you have to transfer from one medium to another the transfer point will be the bottleneck. There isn't much that you can do to speed it up. Getting an even faster microSD card will not improve your performance by much.
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Sorry for the slow response. In both cases you are subject to the internal bus limitations as well as card limitations.
Think of it as flying from New York to LA with a stop in Dallas. All three airports are big and the planes are fast, but in all three cases you are slowed down. You have to wait in line to get through security and get on the plane, then wait to take off, then wait for the plane to get to its gate in Dallas, etc. Each point is a bottleneck.
The point being is that anytime you have to transfer from one medium to another the transfer point will be the bottleneck. There isn't much that you can do to speed it up. Getting an even faster microSD card will not improve your performance by much.
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Bro you don't understand me.
Same micro sd(Plane)
in Windows Notebook ----Read 90 Mb/s Write 55Mb/s
in Poco X3 pro ---- Read 75 Mb/s Write 45 Mb/s
in Tab S7 ---- Read 20Mb/s Write 13Mb/s
aoesp3 said:
Bro you don't understand me.
Same micro sd(Plane)
in Windows Notebook ----Read 90 Mb/s Write 55Mb/s
in Poco X3 pro ---- Read 75 Mb/s Write 45 Mb/s
in Tab S7 ---- Read 20Mb/s Write 13Mb/s
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Yes, I did. You are comparing three DIFFERENT devices with three DIFFERENT bus architectures. Comparing your Windows notebook, Poco X2 Pro and Tab S7 is not an apple to apple to apple comparison. It is an apple to banana to orange comparison.
I got the same read/write speeds you did on my Tab S7. If I were to clock it on my Surface Pro 6 or Dell desktop, I would probably get similar speeds as you did on your Windows notebook. The bus speed of the Tab S7 is the culprit and getting a faster card will give you a negligible increase.
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Yes, I did. You are comparing three DIFFERENT devices with three DIFFERENT bus architectures. Comparing your Windows notebook, Poco X2 Pro and Tab S7 is not an apple to apple to apple comparison. It is an apple to banana to orange comparison.
I got the same read/write speeds you did on my Tab S7. If I were to clock it on my Surface Pro 6 or Dell desktop, I would probably get similar speeds as you did on your Windows notebook. The bus speed of the Tab S7 is the culprit and getting a faster card will give you a negligible increase.
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Yep different devices but Poco's(Xxiaomi) medicore device three times faster than Samsung's high level device. Is this normal?
i just discovered if i eject micro sd card from tab s7 and than plug again. Than I tested micro sd card. Speed similar to Poco X3 pro. But some time later (about hours) micro sd card speed slowing down.
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Yep different devices but Poco's(Xxiaomi) medicore device three times faster than Samsung's high level device. Is this normal?
i just discovered if i eject micro sd card from tab s7 and than plug again. Than I tested micro sd card. Speed similar to Poco X3 pro. But some time later (about hours) micro sd card speed slowing down.
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Yeah. That is weird. I could be the OS deprioritizing the microSD reader to save battery. But that is just a guess. As far as the differences between the Poco S2 and the Tab S7, one is a phone the other a tablet; both have different use case scenarios which drives the different design philosophies, which drives the actual design and component selection.

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