im running this rom and recovery:
ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ow-to-update-to-stock-rooted-ob1-5-0-t3049676
RECOVERY: https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
i decided to do a backup and then try to restore it recently. i've done this successfully in the past, but this time it gave me:
"createTarFork() process ended with ERROR=255"
needless to say, my knuckles are swollen and raw from punching walls and various flat vertical surfaces because this backup wouldn't restore.
so my question is: is it possible to make a complete image backup of a phone without making a nandroid backup of it? a COMPLETE IMAGE? WITHOUT TWRP/CWM?
A COMPLETE IMAGE
thanks..
The only complete backup can only be made in custom recovery. TWRP has never failed me, but if you wand full backup you have to manually select the extra partitions (EFS, modem,recovery itself)..
Can you try restoring from another backup, if you have?
If you have a PC you can do a complete backup with adb
comes the obvious question: how? how do i do a COMPLETE backup? is it a COMPLETE IMAGE?
...it would appear adb backups are only app backups.
"Can you try restoring from another backup, if you have?"
that's not my issue here. but i did already say this:
"i've done this successfully in the past"
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I'm curious about this. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
Lets say that I'm on stock 2.2, rooted. I do a nandroid backup. Then I allow the upgrade for 2.2.2. Of course I lose root.
Will a nandroid restore, restore root, or will I have to root again?
A full nandroid restore will restore everything - the system and data - and you will be right back where you were, on 2.2 and rooted.
maltloaf said:
A full nandroid restore will restore everything - the system and data - and you will be right back where you were, on 2.2 and rooted.
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Ahh, okay.
So to confirm that I understand you correctly...
...the 2.2.2 update won't hold after the nandroid restore? I'll be back to 2.2, as it was before the (2.2.2) update?
If you just wanna backup and restore your apps, use Titanium Backup (it's free on the Market).
Nandroid backs up your entire phone. When you restore a nandroid backup your phone will be exactly like it was when you made the backup. Restoring a nandroid backup is used to recover from a crash or to revert to a previous ROM.
After a ROM change I will set up my accounts, root if needed and do any other basic setup stuff and then, before installing any apps, do a nandroid backup. I can then go back to a "fresh install" if I want to. I also do a nandroid each weekly to capture the state of my phone.
Backing up apps and restoring them across different ROMs may or may not work for you. When I have tried this with Titanium Backup I had many force closes and ended up reinstalling everything from the market. Others have had success. I have read the MyBackup pro does better, but most suggest that you just backup and restore data not the app itself.
I have not tried backing up my apps to Google, which you can do in later versions of Android. Go to Privacy in the setting menu and then to Backup and restore. There are boxes for data backup and automatic restore you can check. maybe someone who has used this can comment on how well it works.
If your nandroid backups hang up at "backing up firstboot" get the latest version of StreakMod Recovery.
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Backing up apps and restoring them across different ROMs may or may not work for you. When I have tried this with Titanium Backup I had many force closes and ended up reinstalling everything from the market. Others have had success. I have read the MyBackup pro does better, but most suggest that you just backup and restore data not the app itself.
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After installing a fresh ROM and rooting my device, the first thing I do is install Busybox. Then, with Titanium Backup I do Restore Apps Only, then reboot my device. I never get any FC's with this restore process.
Thanks!
Thank you everyone. I appreciate the info.
I've used Titanium BU, and have busybox installed too.
It was just a matter of if after an update (OTA), and restore with Nandroid, would root still be in place.
I totally understand what you guys are saying now.
I've also been using MyBackup to see how it compares to Titanium. So far so good.
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I prefer mybackup root to titanium. It's far more user friendly and more automated (in the free version). As for nandroids, I always take a backup before doing any system changes (hacks or rom updates) so I can roll back to a known good system if needs be.
BTW - it is a good idea to copy your ROM backups to another device, just in case your SD card dies. I copy mine to one of my desktop computers and to a USB drive. I usually back up my entire SD card, except my music folders, every couple of weeks.
Where does Nandroid put the backups so I can rename them and save off phone?
mine (from Streakmod recovery) are in /sdcard/rom_backup
StreakMod recovery puts the backups on the SD Card in a folder named rom_backup.
Each backup is in a sub-folder of it's own and uses a date-time format for the folder name. I rename the folders with a meaningful name by just pre-pending to the name. So my last backup is named BB351-2011-06-18-02.41.04. The following files are created:
.android_secure.img
boot.img
cache.img
data.img
firstboot.img
recovery.img
system.img
nandroid.md5
the md5 file is a text file that contains the md5 sums for the other files. This file is used to verify the other files when they are restored.
OK, I am pretty much completely new to android and have a few questions if someone has a few minutes.
1. Ok, first is titanium backup. When you do a ti-backup, is it a complete image of how your phone was? I did a backup before perm-rooting and then did a recovery after. I did not have contacts and a few other things I did before. BUT, after a "crash" and reboot, those things re-appeared? So I am guessing it is supposed to be a complete image of the way the phone was?
2. next, can you use the same ti-backup file no matter which rom you are running? So if I backup now, flash new rom, then recover will it work? Or would it fail from trying to restore something that isn't available in the new rom?
3. Nandroid backup. Is this just a backup of the actual rom? or is this an actual image backup too?
I will stop there for now, thanks for any help.
Brew
tsbrewers said:
OK, I am pretty much completely new to android and have a few questions if someone has a few minutes.
1. Ok, first is titanium backup. When you do a ti-backup, is it a complete image of how your phone was? I did a backup before perm-rooting and then did a recovery after. I did not have contacts and a few other things I did before. BUT, after a "crash" and reboot, those things re-appeared? So I am guessing it is supposed to be a complete image of the way the phone was?
2. next, can you use the same ti-backup file no matter which rom you are running? So if I backup now, flash new rom, then recover will it work? Or would it fail from trying to restore something that isn't available in the new rom?
3. Nandroid backup. Is this just a backup of the actual rom? or is this an actual image backup too?
I will stop there for now, thanks for any help.
Brew
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1: Titanium backups only apps and the data within the apps.
2: Yes
3: A nand backup will backup everything that is in your phone.
The system, cache, dalvik cache, wimax and some other stuff. When you want to backup everything that's on your phone, you do a nand backup. If anything goes wrong with a ROM you installed. Yo do a compete wipe and flash your nand backup.
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Thanks, that helps.
Brew
Good, I actually did.
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Hi,
4.2 of Jelly Bean update could be imminent for my Nexus 7, and I'm wondering about what and how to backup before the update. The question I think is a general android one though... which is why I'm posting it here.
This was going to be a question about factory reset... but reading other posts I think I now understand that factory reset just deletes data/cache, so I think any time you do that it's just gonna return the device to a clean ROM state without changing the ROM. (whatever flavour/version ROM is)
When a ROM update is applied (either official or manually flashed), I guess it wipes everything, is it like a disk format or something like that? I have installed CWM recovery and rooted my device, I think the update will unroot it, but will the CWM recovery still be loaded?
And then, what backup should I take before the update... I think a Titanium Backup is a must, I understand how that works. But a Nandroid backup too? Or is that more like taking a disk image, would that be useless to restore after the ROM has been updated? And if so, does that mean any old Nandroid backups should be discarded?
Once the new update to 4.2 is installed, is it advisable to take a Nandroid backup immediately, or better to download the stock 4.2 image and keeping it as a starting point? (does this amount to the same thing?) I guess this is where a factory reset would return it to stock (providing I haven't moved anything to the system apps)?
Or is it possible/better to use a Nandroid backup as a point in time image of everything that's been installed on the device after adding back all the apps etc? I guess that leads me to wonder if the Nandroid backup is needed at all if I'm going with the Titanium Backups...
Thanks a lot and sorry for the lengthy question, I've seen many posts touching on this
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Hi,
4.2 of Jelly Bean update could be imminent for my Nexus 7, and I'm wondering about what and how to backup before the update. The question I think is a general android one though... which is why I'm posting it here.
This was going to be a question about factory reset... but reading other posts I think I now understand that factory reset just deletes data/cache, so I think any time you do that it's just gonna return the device to a clean ROM state without changing the ROM. (whatever flavour/version ROM is)
When a ROM update is applied (either official or manually flashed), I guess it wipes everything, is it like a disk format or something like that? I have installed CWM recovery and rooted my device, I think the update will unroot it, but will the CWM recovery still be loaded?
And then, what backup should I take before the update... I think a Titanium Backup is a must, I understand how that works. But a Nandroid backup too? Or is that more like taking a disk image, would that be useless to restore after the ROM has been updated? And if so, does that mean any old Nandroid backups should be discarded?
Once the new update to 4.2 is installed, is it advisable to take a Nandroid backup immediately, or better to download the stock 4.2 image and keeping it as a starting point? (does this amount to the same thing?) I guess this is where a factory reset would return it to stock (providing I haven't moved anything to the system apps)?
Or is it possible/better to use a Nandroid backup as a point in time image of everything that's been installed on the device after adding back all the apps etc? I guess that leads me to wonder if the Nandroid backup is needed at all if I'm going with the Titanium Backups...
Thanks a lot and sorry for the lengthy question, I've seen many posts touching on this
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1. OTA updates should let you retain your apps.
2. Clockworkmod will still be installed following the update.
3. Nandroid backups are like a system image it makes a backup of everything on your phone (Minus sd card external) at the exact point in time when you make the backup. If you restore the backup it will restore your phone to the exact state it was in when you made the backup. You only need to keep a couple of your recent nandroid backups on your phone.
4. After the 4.2 update you can either make a backup or use a factory restore image it will make no difference. Factory reset would return it to stock.
5. You can use nandroid to make a backup after you install your apps in fact I would recommend this that way you have a convient restore point. You can also backup your apps with titanium backup.
Hope this answers some of your questions .
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shimp208 said:
1. OTA updates should let you retain your apps.
2. Clockworkmod will still be installed following the update.
3. Nandroid backups are like a system image it makes a backup of everything on your phone (Minus sd card external) at the exact point in time when you make the backup. If you restore the backup it will restore your phone to the exact state it was in when you made the backup. You only need to keep a couple of your recent nandroid backups on your phone.
4. After the 4.2 update you can either make a backup or use a factory restore image it will make no difference. Factory reset would return it to stock.
5. You can use nandroid to make a backup after you install your apps in fact I would recommend this that way you have a convient restore point. You can also backup your apps with titanium backup.
Hope this answers some of your questions .
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
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Excellent, thanks for the fast reply, you did answer my questions!
I was misunderstanding then about the 4.2 update, thinking it was equivalent to flashing a new ROM... you clarified it for me, seems it's less severe than that.
I think I'll go with your point 5 to use a Nandroid image for a convenient restore point after the OTA happens
Everytime I tried to make a full nandroid backup via twrp, it always auto reboot in the middle of the backup process, I wonder why
Any idea ?
Can i use nandroid backups to switch systems
Like to switch back after trying a new rom without pc
If by nandroid you mean TWRP backups, then yes.
Like flash rros and then use the backup to return to stock with all my files and apps?
Yes a nandroid backup (aka twrp backup) saves a snapshot of the system in time so it doesn't matter what you do afterwards, once you restore the backup your device will go back to the same exact spot as it was the time when you'd taken the backup. Also when you often hear ppl say take backup before trying new update/rom/zip, this is exactly what they mean.
And yes you don't need pc as long as you can access your backup through otg USB/memory card etc.
Sammy4798 said:
Like flash rros and then use the backup to return to stock with all my files and apps?
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Take care to backup the system image and not system. And use the same version of TWRP for backing up and restoring. Both these are not a must but to be on the safer side.