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Getting Real sick & tired of the Optimus G, thinking seriously about selling it & getting an LG G3 or an HTC ONE M8, ever since KK ROMS came to the picture, kernel development & ROM development have been slow, now i'm facing issues with screen, when swiping in the drawer it freezes on every single swipe i make, no mods no additional kernels the lag & battery drainage it's just.... terrible, used of recommended GAPPS, LG is so stubborn not releasing the stock e970 ROM, by the time we get the update, Nexus or other devices would have something even greater than "android L" like always devices get left behind, don't know why google said no device will ever get left behind ever again... oh yeah sure!! say that to the mayor stubborn carriers that take so long to push the OTA'S like always AT&T -.-
Yeah, well... just expresing how i feel about the device now lol sick of the 4.4.4 ROMS JB was the best that work on my device & had stellar performance & battery. now it's just crap. Switching to 4.4.2 stock port. only good KK ROM for the E970.
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Getting Real sick & tired of the Optimus G, thinking seriously about selling it & getting an LG G3 or an HTC ONE M8...
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Yeah, well... just expresing how i feel about the device now lol sick of the 4.4.4 ROMS JB was the best that work on my device & had stellar performance & battery. now it's just crap. Switching to 4.4.2 stock port. only good KK ROM for the E970.
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Sounds like you might have a lemon/broken phone. If you hate it, yes, ditch it. But many people (me included) are quite happy with the OG. I've tried a bunch of ROMs, and most were mostly okay, but I've been running CM milestones and nightlies for several months now with little trouble. In fact, performance has been good, by my standards, and the battery still lasts all day with moderate use. I've only had the thing for about 9 months but I'm usually at least thinking about upgrading or what to get next by this point - not so with the OG.
I'll probably start looking at other phones when I get super bored some day next winter, maybe a used G3 or some HTC, who knows. As for the development, I haven't been reading much here lately because I haven't had problems or time and energy to tinker. But I've been very happy with the help here and have found the OG devs to be eminently qualified. (I have never posted here much but I've been reading the site for years, through about 6 different devices. All my questions had usually already been answered before I could ask them, and I am not a developer.)
Sorry the E970 hasn't worked out as well for you as for some. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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Sounds like you might have a lemon/broken phone. If you hate it, yes, ditch it. But many people (me included) are quite happy with the OG. I've tried a bunch of ROMs, and most were mostly okay, but I've been running CM milestones and nightlies for several months now with little trouble. In fact, performance has been good, by my standards, and the battery still lasts all day with moderate use. I've only had the thing for about 9 months but I'm usually at least thinking about upgrading or what to get next by this point - not so with the OG.
I'll probably start looking at other phones when I get super bored some day next winter, maybe a used G3 or some HTC, who knows. As for the development, I haven't been reading much here lately because I haven't had problems or time and energy to tinker. But I've been very happy with the help here and have found the OG devs to be eminently qualified. (I have never posted here much but I've been reading the site for years, through about 6 different devices. All my questions had usually already been answered before I could ask them, and I am not a developer.)
Sorry the E970 hasn't worked out as well for you as for some. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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went to 4.3 the issue for me is KK they don't work for me, only KK ROM that work is gorabus excellent dev one thing i forgot to mention, it's not that i'm hating on the development on this thred it's just that i feel limited & hate limitations, have you've seen the Nexus community? most of the known devs that were making ROMS for this device jumped out. i just miss the good old days :/ might keep the phone for an emergency phone or something phone works it's just KK issue, ever since [4.4.2-4.4.4]. but i'm definitely getting a newer device.
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went to 4.3 the issue for me is KK they don't work for me, only KK ROM that work is gorabus excellent dev one thing i forgot to mention, it's not that i'm hating on the development on this thred it's just that i feel limited & hate limitations, have you've seen the Nexus community? most of the known devs that were making ROMS for this device jumped out. i just miss the good old days :/ might keep the phone for an emergency phone or something phone works it's just KK issue, ever since [4.4.2-4.4.4]. but i'm definitely getting a newer device.
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I feel the same. I had Nexus 4 but sold it to buy a Nexus 5, dropped the Nexus 5 on my motorcycle... switch back to the Optimus G after replacing the screen twice (both times my fault). But my OptimusG keeps kicking. The CM11 20140802 build has been good to me, everything from M6 - to a recent nightly on CM11 was flaky for me (UI issues). Thanks to the folks @ CM this includes the fixed encryption fstab so I can feel secure again without having to hack up a ROM manually.
You can't really expect LG to update a 2 year-old phone. There is almost no incentive for them to do so when most people don't care. I'm waiting for the next Google nexus phone. Buying anything other then a Nexus product or something like the Galaxy S5 will put you down the same path again.
The stock KK port is decently usable.. I'm switching to it as well
This has become pretty much a legacy device but still better than most older phones.
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I am using this Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440
[ROM][E970/E971/E973]LG Official Kitkat 4.4.2[stock].
Stock KK for the LG and it has been great. From eco mode to notification light to battery and qslide apps everything works and battery has been pretty well. So yeah CM11 KK or CM Kitkat roms in general for the lg g aren't very stable in my experience and have not really good battery life. But this stock kitkat Rom is much better and really doesn't give me a huge reason to switch to an different phone despite having a OnePlusOne and a Xperia Z2. I would say the LG G still holds up very well against all of them.
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I have to agree. I have also been using the stock kitkat port, this rom here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440
And it's been fantastic for me overall.
Didn't use many custom roms as it hasn't been a long time since I got this phone.
I rooted it on ics and installed this kitkat rom. Then I tried Slick JB rom but i ended up coming back to this rom again due to the smoothness and stability. Haven't had one crash.
Well yes if this phone did receive an official KitKat update, it would still be a beast. But you can't really blame a device for underperforming based on the ROM development, those are people who volunteered their time to put ROMS on this device especially since the LGOG is almost approaching an age of 2 years.
I've been using CM 11 and it has worked great, vanilla android is the way to go its simple and fast. But I understand that many users (including myself) love the theming aspect of a phone that makes it look like its officially from the brand (ex. TouchWiz or Sense). LG has its unique theme on their successors such as the G2 or G3 and it would great on a KK update to the LGOG.
But its really up to the user on what phone they really want. The LGOG is still fast but if you upgrade now all you'll be really getting is a faster, bigger, and better camera. But still the OG is pretty beast
Yeah I like my LGOG but it's time for me anyways to move on up the ladder. I did my Samsung stint but I like the underdog LG. So I'm getting a G2. Actually got 2 of them I'm repairing. I like the themes CM has to offer but LG's stock interface is really cool. Just my 2 cents.
A couple weeks ago I was unsure if I would buy the G3 or the M8. I decided to go with the G3 and even while waiting for it to arrive I was still concerned about all the Not so good things I've been reading. After a day and a half with it, I'm proud to say that I haven't had any of the issues that some have reported. I feel bad about those who have had issues because this is a wonderful device! My main concern was the heating up but have not experienced that. It did get slightly warm when I was setting everything up and playing with the device but nothing out of the ordinary. There is an occasional stutter here and there but no terrible lag like some have experienced. I did turn off the animations however..for the usage I've given it so far it's performed beautifully. Battery seems adequate but still early to tell. I also get lte like 95% of the time. A huge plus because my Evo lte would only seem to get 3g. I've also kept it stock for now... I'm pretty sure there are a lot of you out there who are in the same boat I was in... I absolutely recommend this phone. Unless you somehow get your hands on a defective unit, you will not be disappointed with purchasing the LG G3. Hope my review helps some of you and sorry if this is not the correct thread for this..
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Good to hear that so far you've been happy with your decision.
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I came from the m8. It's a bad ass phone but I'm still 100% happy getting this.
I have always been a Samsung person, but I decided to try the G3 and am completely happy as can be with this phone.
I'm also happy with mine. I'm a big Samsung guy but I decided to take a chance on the G3 and I don't regret it one bit. Interestingly, I originally bought an AT&T variant, but last week I saw an ad on Craigslist where a guy was looking to do an even swap, his Sprint G3 for an AT&T model. I have been keeping an active Sprint SIM in my Nexus 5 for fun since they're testing Spark in my market.
Long story short, I bit on the guy's offer and went all in with Sprint. Since I'm going to buy a Note 4 next month when it launches, I figure I have nothing to lose by trying Sprint for a month as a daily driver. If I end up hating it, I can always go back to AT&T when I buy the Note 4.
For now, though, I'm rocking that Sprint G3 on the new $60 unlimited plan and so far, so good. ?
Good to hear it! I also have not experienced 90% of the issues that others are reporting. Smooth sailing here. Welcome to the community
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OK so I'm due for my an upgrade on my second line (which is my wife's), and was just wondering what's a good phone to upgrade to?
I love my g3 but my lady wants one as well so I was just thinking of giving her mines. Anything better than the lg g3, it has to be at least 5.5in or lower (its the perfect size IMO). And please don't say nexus 6 because that's too big besides I have an N5. Look forward to you guys input.
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Im leaning towards the G3 as well, and mainly because I want a usable camera. I have a RazrHD and it has left alot to be desired in that department. Love that I was able to unlock the bootloader when I had the chance and the Rom I have is fast, stable and smoother than any other I have tried even on my Nexus 7.
Believe it or not the G3 is the top Android in most of these camera tests besting even the Samsung Galaxy 5 http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-comparison-iPhone-6-and-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-iPhone-5s-Galaxy-S5-LG-G3-Lumia-1520-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3805/page/6
I'm pretty much between this phone and the Nexus 6 because nothing beats a custom Rom, and if it's locked it takes away my ability to maximize the performance of an already amazing device.
If anyone can comment on the battery life this would help as well.
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Im leaning towards the G3 as well, and mainly because I want a usable camera. I have a RazrHD and it has left alot to be desired in that department. Love that I was able to unlock the bootloader when I had the chance and the Rom I have is fast, stable and smoother than any other I have tried even on my Nexus 7.
Believe it or not the G3 is the top Android in most of these camera tests besting even the Samsung Galaxy 5 http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-comparison-iPhone-6-and-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-iPhone-5s-Galaxy-S5-LG-G3-Lumia-1520-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3805/page/6
I'm pretty much between this phone and the Nexus 6 because nothing beats a custom Rom, and if it's locked it takes away my ability to maximize the performance of an already amazing device.
If anyone can comment on the battery life this would help as well.
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IMHO, battery life meets and exceeds all I need. However, I should follow that up by saying I came from a GS3 with absolutely horrendous battery life due to it being old and me upgrading soon and so just living with it lol I would say that I've read a lot of people who've said there are some better phones for battery out there (GS5, even the G2 from what I've heard - keep in mind I have no personal experience here though). Either way, a day of "normal use" - checking it occasionally during work, some texting, and a reasonable amount of Web browsing - I'm usually ballpark of 50-60% by 5 to 6 pm. A day of exceptionally heavy use I may be as low as 30% at that same time, but at that point it's all irrelevant because I can simply plug it in for 20-30 minutes to easily get me though till 10 or so. Just my 2c. I wouldn't classify it as "marathon" status, but definitely sufficient for me. Hope this helps!
Edit: However, if you're thinking of getting on, I'd do it quick lol! Hopefully you can find one with the 10b firmware (exploitable for root, bootloader unlock, etc.). However, some people are now reporting success with downgrading from the recent 11c update back to 10b using the .kdz file posted in the "system update incoming" thread. Just in case you haven't been reading over there
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IMHO, battery life meets and exceeds all I need. However, I should follow that up by saying I came from a GS3 with absolutely horrendous battery life due to it being old and me upgrading soon and so just living with it lol I would say that I've read a lot of people who've said there are some better phones for battery out there (GS5, even the G2 from what I've heard - keep in mind I have no personal experience here though). Either way, a day of "normal use" - checking it occasionally during work, some texting, and a reasonable amount of Web browsing - I'm usually ballpark of 50-60% by 5 to 6 pm. A day of exceptionally heavy use I may be as low as 30% at that same time, but at that point it's all irrelevant because I can simply plug it in for 20-30 minutes to easily get me though till 10 or so. Just my 2c. I wouldn't classify it as "marathon" status, but definitely sufficient for me. Hope this helps!
Edit: However, if you're thinking of getting on, I'd do it quick lol! Hopefully you can find one with the 10b firmware (exploitable for root, bootloader unlock, etc.). However, some people are now reporting success with downgrading from the recent 11c update back to 10b using the .kdz file posted in the "system update incoming" thread. Just in case you haven't been reading over there
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Thanks a lot for this information. Unfortunately I have to wait until June of next year to use my upgrade and I really want to root / boot loader unlock the G3 if I decide on it.
Maybe I'll just pull the trigger and see if hopefully I get one from the box with 10b firmware from the get go.
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In case we buy the G3 and there is no way to downgrade at that time is the phone still recommended if on stock?
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In case we buy the G3 and there is no way to downgrade at that time is the phone still recommended if on stock?
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I would say that depends on if you can live with the "stock" feel of a device, then yes. I'll be honest that personally though, root and unlock to me personally is a near make or break deal lol I get bored of things too quick to not be able to "mess" with stuff haha but that's just me
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I would say that depends on if you can live with the "stock" feel of a device, then yes. I'll be honest that personally though, root and unlock to me personally is a near make or break deal lol I get bored of things too quick to not be able to "mess" with stuff haha but that's just me
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I'm the same way, just hoping that by the time I get me G3 they don't bork it up and have the latest update on it. June can't come soon enough.
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About a year ago I got a really really good deal on a GS5. It wouldn't have been my choice under normal circumstances, but it was worth a try. There were some good things and some annoying things about it.
Last weekend I decided that I had enough of the annoying things, specifically around using the phone as a phone, which I had to do due to problems with my landline. When I thought about temporarily using my LGOG, I thought it might also be a good time to try a custom ROM, something I had shied away from previously since it was my only phone and I wasn't comfortable with the stability of what was available at the time.
So I went out and grabbed the freegee app and a stable Cyanogenmod release and it's like having a new phone again. 4.4.4 for now -- I was not in any hurry for Lollipop on the GS5 but it might be worth it on the LGOG.
I'll only really miss a few things about the GS5 - primarily the screen that I can read with polarized sunglasses, the multicolor status LED I can use with lightflow, and the camera - since I am now on KK on the LGOG. The performance of the LGOG is now comparable to what the GS5 felt like when it was new, and as of this afternoon with minimal tweaking I think I have the battery life under control. I really like the physical design of the LGOG better, and CM has answers for most of the stuff I'd tweaked on the GS5.
Agreed, I installed bliss pop on my lgog and It flies. I've always liked the design of the Optimus G. I might just put down my g3 for a few and use this.
Hey jdock,
Glad your enjoying the OG. I'm still using one after 1.5 years and its amazing. My biggest grip is that bcus I'm on T-Mobile I don't get lte. I after a custom ROM really makes a different especially the KK ones. Lollipop still eats a lot of battery for me so I think the phone has reached its limitation. Hopefully this phone can still get the support bcus it would suck to invest on another phone.
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Hey jdock,
Glad your enjoying the OG. I'm still using one after 1.5 years and its amazing. My biggest grip is that bcus I'm on T-Mobile I don't get lte. I after a custom ROM really makes a different especially the KK ones. Lollipop still eats a lot of battery for me so I think the phone has reached its limitation. Hopefully this phone can still get the support bcus it would suck to invest on another phone.
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I have the LG Official Kitkat 4.4.2[stock] that was ported from the korean version of our phone and was slightly modified by Paulicat to install without the need to freegee after installation. The ROM runs very smooth. It would be perfect if I could figure out how to fix two issues. The first issue is an annoying data network setting prompt that happens when I boot up which tells me that I will incur additional data charges. There is a setting under mobile networks that is checked called "ask when data connected" Whenever I try to uncheck it it reverts back to being checked. The second is under access point names. There are two other apn there that I cannot delete for some reason. If I could figure out how to get rid of the incur data charges prompt when using data and delete the extra apn's, this ROM would be perfect.
LGOG has been one of the best phones I ever owned. LG abandoned it too quickly.
During a thunder storm, I ran from one building to another, not realizing my LGOG fell out of the holster and landed on the bottom front corner in the middle of the parking lot. I found it 30 minutes later face down, I thought that was the end. Nope! just a small (and I mean tiny ding) in the corner, Glass was perfect, without a scratch. I came back in the office and told everyone where I found it. They looked all sad and asked how the screen was. I replied "No problems, it's not an iPhone!" I have it for about 2.5 years the glass is still perfect, never had a screen protector on it.
Unfortunately, as much as I love this phone, I think mine has hit EOL. The battery, although it still gets me through the end of the day, is beginning to drain faster. That and I just picked up a LG Urbane (which I also like), and i think it would pair better with 5.1. I'm just having the hardest time trying to find a phone with the same great features. I just don't know why everyone is into the giant tablets for a phone, and if you want a smaller screen 5" or less, the specs are lousy.
Thanks to everyone on this forum that has helped me keep my LG up to date for the past 2.5 years. I may watch the forum and see if an official 5.1 or M comes out for the LGOG and it might be enough to make me return.
Anyway, didn't mean to steal the thread, I've just been thinking about switching for about three months, and then read the thread, thinking it may be me soon.
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
Agreed.
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28cliff said:
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
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If you have grandfathered unlimited, I wouldn't dump that for a virgin carrier.
I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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Well, since you asked:
The updates to the G3 (including to v5.0) are underwhelming.
As a software developer for over 40 years, I'd like to see more testing before release, not less. Or would we like to be in the shoes of Apple users, who can't boot after an update?
Yes, I look forward to updates, but mostly out of curiosity.
Updates almost never include what I'd like to see added (or removed).
I don't worship my computing devices. I'm interested in what they can do, not the latest UI look (not that it's what you are looking for, but many are).
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I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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i also have verizon unlimited, I have been on skydragon 5.0/4.2 kernel for a while now. The wifi has been fixed, I love the phone, the camera is not an iphone camera (sadly, I think they win hands down on the camera), but it is still a great camera. I would recommend you install the hotspot mod from xdabbeb and look into the xcam lg 6.24 app (camera app, for stock roms though, personally, I like it over stock on the lg). I've never used cm, I sort of like stock roms (was on jasmine a long time before skydragon), but I think that you'll like the phone, I also have xposed installed. I haven't had ram issues at all, but I am not a gamer so not sure what your needs are. The 24b modem has been great for me once it was updated. On updates, yes, it has been slow coming from verizon (or lg), but mostly that is a stagefright type fix, and since lgg4 has launched, I just don't think that we are high priority on getting out those updates. I have hear "rumors" that our next update will not be until marsmallow, but they are just that...rumors. Hope you like the g3, personally, I love it.
Thanks, tmord1, that's very helpful information.
All I really want is a nice platform with minimal bloat, high performance and reliability, and the ability to wireless tether on LTE. I am an infrastructure systems and network administrator, so my concerns are along those lines: what makes a device fast, robust and capable, and if possible bypassing the cages that the vendors mandate.
I get my device delivered tomorrow, so I will look into the methods for root and TWRP install. I have unlocked and rooted many devices, going back to the Galaxy Nexus 1 and original Galaxy Tab. So, Odin and ADB don't' bother me.
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If the camera is important to you, updating / patching to CM 12.1 will affect the camera. Apparently, LG camera driver is proprietary (for the laser focus, etc) and not available on ASOP roms.
I loved CM 12.1 on the G3, but I was unhappy with third party camera apps. I had to go back to stock for the camera.
It's a good phone, though.
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The latest update 35b and especially the roms based on it like Jasmine 9.1 really improved the phone. I don't feel any need to upgrade devices and feel like the software is much improved even over the kitkat stock rom that I thought was a great start. Lollipop before 5.1.1 was problematic itself and you can blame Google for that.
Agreed 100% the 35 b update made a world of difference as far as speed. The phone is much faster than its ever been on any ROM imho. Btw, has any other carrier updated to 5.1.1?
I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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If you haven't tried JasmineROM 9.1 or SkyDragon 6.x, you might want to give them a try. Both based on the new 5.1.1 stock and it runs really well!
Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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We are talking the LG G3, not nexus phones and google fi, at least I am.
LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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i believe you are a bit incorrect with your efuse analogy, its actually a Qfuse (on the 6p anyways).
post 1 and 2 here, should clear things up a bit for you.
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just a heads up, google fi has nothing to do with nexus phones or updates, other than the fi carrier service can only be used on a nexus at this time, and possibly will never be expanded to non google devices.
I think software updates are a problem for any carrier android devices. Most have to wait a month to a couple for a update that an international device gets. This is so annoying. But something that's even more annoying is how most carrier devices come with bootloaders that cannot be unlocked or so locked up it takes month to find a way to bypass them. I had Galax s4 and I bought it once I knew TWRP could be installed. Then when the g3 was released I wanted it but waited until developers got TWRP working then bought my g3. I'm probably gonna keep my G3 until Cyanogenmod stops supporting it or it dies. What ever comes 1st.