Hi there sirs.
i have a problem with my z3. you see i tried to dip it down in the water, after that i noticed that there was a moist build up on the lens behind. Panicked, i tried to remove it using a lighter but very gently and quite a distance with the camera. i noticed that the moist did disappeared but came back again, though it was just immediate heating. so I decided to heat it longer than before, unfortunately i did not know that it was plastic because i thought it was a glass same with the whole back. now, the cover is somehow deformed, you can see that its not completely flat and smooth and there are some smudges inside. i was wondering since i heated that part, is the problem coming from the cover or the camera itself because everytime i take a photo it's having a hard time auto focusing, pictures are a little blurry and somehow like over exposed. i already changed the settings but still no luck.
I just need to know in your opinion, should i have the cover replaced or the camera itself is the one having the problem??
A good answer is highly appreciated sir.
This is the Z3v board for Verizon specific models. You may want to ask your question at the Z3 boards.
It's fairly well known that moisture issues are usually best remedied by a slower approach, such as opening the ports and placing the wet phone in a sealed container of rice (which absorbs water readily).
My guess is that you may have slightly melted one of the lenses inside the camera if they are composite. Another possibility is that the plastic or rubber that separates the lenses was distorted, causing a permanent misalignment of necessary for proper focal distance. Yet another possibility is that the heat could've altered a lens coating, like the UV coating, for example.
The autofocus uses contrast and line definition software to work. If the camera ccd sensor can't "see" clearly to get a fix on something, the lens will just keep trying to focus in and out but never get anywhere. It'll likely eat battery quickly, and overheat.
At any rate, you've probably done irreparable damaged to your camera unit.
You just need to change the battery cover. Most likely the back cover melted onto the camera sensor leaving it with no room to move to focus properly.
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Hi there, i just took an Z2, my worst purchase ever. Not by the phone, far from it, but for the phone condition.
Making things short: i bought an used z2 with "only" the back cover broken, but already found lots of problems, and im solving then one at a time.
Well, the problem now:
I replaced the back cover, cleaned all the shatered glass, removed the remaining glue, its super clean, but im having an flash leaking.
The camera is fine, i tested it in any way possible, the problem, is that when i turn on flash, it burns the picture. if i remove the new back cover, it gets fine with flash, so the problem, is a flash leaking under the cover for what i got.
Now i need to seal it, but im in doubt the best way to do this: should i try to seal the camera , making maybe an hole on a piece of tape, and puting over the camera (under the back of course) or try to seal the flash itself, puting some piece of tape between the camera and the flash.
If anyone have passed for something similar, i would be very thankfull for any sugestion.
Of course its out of warranty, and i had spend almost the phone price fixing it, now i want to keep it lol!
here is a pic of the "burn". this picture without flash is absolutely ok. its ok too with flash, without the back cover:
http://imgur.com/zFo59WM
Oh and depending the way i push the screen, near the flash, the leaking disapear too
Then you have installed the back cover faulty or the material ais bent. The flash gets reflected from the inner side of the back cover and thrown back to the camera lens. Try to install it proper or try a new one. You could also try to get some non-reflecting tape and glue it around the flashlight.
I bought some chineese replacement back cover for my se g900 and I had a blue light effect, when too much light was getting on this low quality "glass". If you've bought a cheap replacement then this may be an issue.
Sent from Xperia Z2
Luckily not from an iPhone = Yesterdays technology at tomorrows prices
i bought from a seller that said it was from sony, but you know, how can u trust?
well i found a fix, it was VERY simple, and effective :
I took 2 small stripes of black tape and did this:
take a small piece of tape, the size of the camera, and put between the black plastic, and the camera module
take another small piece, the same size, and put it in between the flex cable and the camera this time. the stripes dont need to be too small, longer is better, as soon it dont cover the camera lenses. the adhesive part of the tape, needs to be in the direction of the flash, and the other, in the direction of the flex cable, so when you sit the back cover, they will stick to the back cover, sealing all the light.
if anyone is interested, i can take some pictures
pictures please
can you put some pictures please.thanks
Is your camera lens dust free?
If I look closely, there is some dirt/dust on the lens under the outer glass. It luckily, as I can see, doesnt affect picture quality. But, I would think, if it worsen it will lead to soft or hazy pictures. I have not tested it in all kinds of lighting.
Background: My s6Edge was fixed under warranty three months ago after burnt USB port with fast charger(...). They also changed the front glass in this procedure (teck broke it opening phone?). Anyway; I dont know if this is the root of the problem, but could be its not sealed as it should.
If its an usual problem with the S6 , I wont mind for now.
I saw some Ifixit guides were you could just replace the lens glass, without opening the phone. Then the lens could be cleaned. I would do this if it doesn`t affect the warranty, should other issues arise (Knowing galaxy line from s3-s6, it will).
Any advise/experience with this problem?
Hello everyone.
I was looking for a non-damaging way for checking if the phone is still watertight with front glass cracked.
I supposed that increasing/decreasing the air pressure inside the phone and waiting how long it will stay deformed would be quite a good idea. (I understand that air-tight != water-tight)
To my surprise, blowing a compressed air into the microphone port causes to increase the pressure inside and deforms back panel, and then stays like this for a few seconds or more. (However I can't simply pump it with my mouth). Related video:
Then I tried to pump it and submerge in water to see where are potential leaking places. Here is the result (starts at 0:10):
It appears that most of the air goes through the microphone port, but there are also bubbles around panel, however the cracked screen seems tight.
My questions are:
1) Is it normal that you can pump the phone through microphone port like this and that the air comes out that quickly?
2) Should I improve the sealing of the back panel?
I'm not going to swim, just feel safer in case of rainy day or accidental splash.
Thanks in advance.
great vid. I'm a little bit surprised when I see the bubbles coming out when you did the waterproof test. I don't think that's supposed to happen.. but I believe it'll survive a rain and other watery splash. anyway does the phone functions normally after that? and how do you improve the sealing if I may know? thank you.
The phone seems fine. So far no problems occurred at all and I haven't seen any signs of moisture.
I assume that the sealing is made of heat-based glue, so I'll try heating edges (as you do before disassembly) and squeeze for some time. If that won't work, it would be necessary to take off the panel and replace the whole seal.
I have noticed dust under my camera lens. I thought my phone may not be waterproof anymore and tested pressure sensor. sure enough, pressure would only bump up a second then back to atm even when the back is still pressed.
so i bought rear adhesives for xperia z5 compact(not tape rolls) and opened the back. i was greeted with a dust cloud (i may be exaggerating a bit) near the camera module along the back frame and adhesive.
i noticed that the frame near the camera and the tapes are extremely thin. stock or replacement, all of them are alarmingly narrow. the adhesive of my z1 compact, which i also replaced the back and battery some time ago, is really wide.
so i cleaned the tapes and dust off. made sure no residue is left for proper seal and adhesion. and a few days later..... dust. now this is a new tape. it cant have degraded already. so i went and replaced the back entirely. a few days later..... dust. what the heck. the back keeps popping off around the camera area.
do you have this problem?
I've had to use new adhesive 4 times. It just isn't that well-designed, my Z1 too kept coming off for no reason.
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I've had to use new adhesive 4 times. It just isn't that well-designed, my Z1 too kept coming off for no reason.
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is fully sealed now? does is still come off after the fourth seal? my z1c never had this problem and i've opened it a couple of times to replace the battery and back panel.
Yup, it's coming off
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Yup, it's coming off
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damn, guess well have to wait for the xz1 compact then.
My completely uneducated guess is that the Z5 line uses the horrible 810 processor which overheats all the time. I'm guessing this overheating wears out the adhesive and over time, it starts coming off. Remember, the adhesive is only meant to be heated once when you apply it, not multiple times.
This however, doesn't explain why this also happens to other Sony phones. Also, Samsung phones do the same thing now, with the adhesive on the glass back, and yet those are much much more reliable.
Okay, story time. Some time ago, the battery in my Z5c swelled up and pushed the battery cover off the back of the phone. I replace the battery myself, & also order new (supposedly OEM) adhesive for the back glass. It does NOT stick on well, popping off one side or the other every few minutes. After fighting it for a while (ordering additional replacement adhesive and trying to re-clean and re-apply it a couple more times), it seems to finally stay in place.
Fast-forward a few months. I see the back glass coming off again. Oh, great, here we go again. I peel it off, and find that the replacement battery is a *little* inflated. Not by much, and not nearly as much as the original battery, but even though it seems to barely be a problem, it's also clear that the battery cover is not skin-tight as it was when it went in. Perhaps it was "enough" that given the tolerances inside, it still managed to push the back glass off. Okay, fine: I bought 2 replacement batteries at the time, so I'll put the other one in.
Fast-forward another few months to a couple of weeks ago. SAME BLASTED THING. Battery barely inflated, back cover coming off, but not really 100% clear whether the battery *really* is the culprit, or whether this adhesive I keep buying is just crap, or if I'm not applying it correctly.
Well, this time I'm running into the same problem trying to re-apply it that I did the first time around: it simply Will. Not. Stay. Put. I've tried the usual tricks I have read about: namely, making sure everything is squeaky-clean, and warming up the adhesive before pressing the back glass onto the phone, and then giving it a little time to cure with something heavy on top of the phone (if I had some clamps, I might try to use those instead). It helps for a couple of hours, but then the back cover just comes RIGHT off again.
Here is my hypothesis: either my phone's chassis is was not quite up to manufacturing standards, or I keep re-assembling it wrong, or something along those lines, because the battery sticks up slightly above the surrounding black frame. And what I can see when the back first starts coming off is that it is slightly "bowing" a bit...the top and bottom are sunk slightly below the plastic frame, but the middle bows out to the point where it rises slightly ABOVE the plastic frame. It's as if either the battery is sitting too high inside the phone, or the frame around the battery is sitting too low.
I have tried taking it all apart again and putting it all back together, but no dice.
Has anybody ever experienced anything like this? It's super frustrating. It seems clearly like a design defect. I just wish I could understand how things are different right now vs. when it was originally assembled at the factory.
Right now I'm sitting here seriously thinking that maybe the answer to this is to layer TWO back adhesive stickers on top of each other, in order to raise the edges of the glass back up enough above the battery that the back won't bow out anymore...
Argh!
...oh, also: and are genuine Sony batteries REALLY this crap in terms of quality?? If so, they should be ashamed and should have recalled many of these phones. I have yet to run into a genuine Sony Z5c battery that doesn't have at least a small build-up of gases within the battery pack after a few short months of use. I have been shying away from third-party batteries by no-name companies, but at this point I'm thinking that those could only be worse if they managed to spontaneously burst into flames.
In case anybody else who is struggling with the same thing ever ends up stumbling across this in the future, I seem to have finally managed to successfully tackle this problem. I finally got more pre-cut adhesive in, and yes: at least in my case, stacking two of them on top of each other has done the trick. (It's not easy lining them up in order to apply them to each other, either...I can tell you that much.)
I don't know if maybe all the adhesive that is out on the market is not "genuine" Sony and so not built to the same spec (maybe the genuine article is much thicker?), or if my particular phone's manufacturing tolerances are just outside the norm (either the battery is sticking up farther than it should, or the edges of the frame are sunk in further than they should be), or what. But using 2 stacked on top of each other instead of 1 seems to be the perfect thickness, allowing for the back glass to remain flush with the plastic frame's edges while also remaining perfectly flat.
I can tell you that at least on my phone, this is still not enough to ensure a tight water seal (pressure sensor doesn't change with increasing outside pressure). But it's hard to know if that's due to the way the back is applied, or some other issue elsewhere that's entirely unrelated.
ARGH. Nope. It lasted a lot longer than previous attempts, but now the upper-left corner, where the camera lens is, is already starting to lift off again.
This is *such* a stupid design.
Try using B7000 industrial glue from Aliexpress or other vendors, it can still be unglued by heat if repairs are needed, but should stay glued better and longer then these precut adhesives which are low in quality...
Thanks for your thread. I can feel your frustration! I'm having problems with the flash LED making weird green shadows in photos (like here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/camera-flash-bleed.3368004/) I was thinking about opening the back cover to try and fix this and maybe install a new battery and a new camera lens while I'm at it. But now I'm afraid to open it up. I am pretty sure that a this point all "original" replacement parts that are available are fake. Should I ever find the courage: Is the back cover and camera lens made from one piece or must they be replaced separately?
Try to get the OEM adhesive strips and battery.
3m makes all sorts of industrial double sided strips. Get the right thickness if you go that route.