Hi there, i just took an Z2, my worst purchase ever. Not by the phone, far from it, but for the phone condition.
Making things short: i bought an used z2 with "only" the back cover broken, but already found lots of problems, and im solving then one at a time.
Well, the problem now:
I replaced the back cover, cleaned all the shatered glass, removed the remaining glue, its super clean, but im having an flash leaking.
The camera is fine, i tested it in any way possible, the problem, is that when i turn on flash, it burns the picture. if i remove the new back cover, it gets fine with flash, so the problem, is a flash leaking under the cover for what i got.
Now i need to seal it, but im in doubt the best way to do this: should i try to seal the camera , making maybe an hole on a piece of tape, and puting over the camera (under the back of course) or try to seal the flash itself, puting some piece of tape between the camera and the flash.
If anyone have passed for something similar, i would be very thankfull for any sugestion.
Of course its out of warranty, and i had spend almost the phone price fixing it, now i want to keep it lol!
here is a pic of the "burn". this picture without flash is absolutely ok. its ok too with flash, without the back cover:
http://imgur.com/zFo59WM
Oh and depending the way i push the screen, near the flash, the leaking disapear too
Then you have installed the back cover faulty or the material ais bent. The flash gets reflected from the inner side of the back cover and thrown back to the camera lens. Try to install it proper or try a new one. You could also try to get some non-reflecting tape and glue it around the flashlight.
I bought some chineese replacement back cover for my se g900 and I had a blue light effect, when too much light was getting on this low quality "glass". If you've bought a cheap replacement then this may be an issue.
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i bought from a seller that said it was from sony, but you know, how can u trust?
well i found a fix, it was VERY simple, and effective :
I took 2 small stripes of black tape and did this:
take a small piece of tape, the size of the camera, and put between the black plastic, and the camera module
take another small piece, the same size, and put it in between the flex cable and the camera this time. the stripes dont need to be too small, longer is better, as soon it dont cover the camera lenses. the adhesive part of the tape, needs to be in the direction of the flash, and the other, in the direction of the flex cable, so when you sit the back cover, they will stick to the back cover, sealing all the light.
if anyone is interested, i can take some pictures
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can you put some pictures please.thanks
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Does someone knows where I can buy the camera cover (the part with the lens)? I figured out that the quality of the cam is 10000x times beter without the cover on it, it looks like a 5MP cam! The quality with cover is bad because of the 100 scratches on it. So if someone know where I can buy a new one, please tell me so I can make pictures without first remove the back of my phone
Did You tried to make a new one from plexiglass?
Yeah I thought about that but:
1. It would'nt be as beautiful as a 'normal' cover
2. The lens is really thin so a DIY-lens would be a little bit thicker...
Man, You got right! Camera quality is much better without that cover... Now I am thinking how can I use cover form my one of my old dead phone which is better...
I have HTC Wizard can anyone tel me how to remove that camera cover actualy I have been trying to remove but i don know it has clips behind or its pasted, additionally its new cover is available in market or not or can I remove it before using the camera and set it back again after. Waiting for experts reply, thanks alot in advance.
Sajid S. Khan
cellappfreak said:
I have HTC Wizard can anyone tel me how to remove that camera cover actualy I have been trying to remove but i don know it has clips behind or its pasted, additionally its new cover is available in market or not or can I remove it before using the camera and set it back again after. Waiting for experts reply, thanks alot in advance.
Sajid S. Khan
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Its completely pasted from outside but a strong adhesive, try a pointed sharp tip to raise it.
SORRY I JUST NOTICED YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THE WHOLE COVER WHICH HOUSES INTERNAL ANTENA AS WELL NOT JUST THE SMALL PIECE OF TRANSPARENT PLASTIC IN FRONT OF CAMERA SENSOR.
Just to improve picture quality you really dont need to remove whole cover, just remove the plastic in front of sensor.
Whole antena cover have 6 locks and the 2 side locks just near to speakers are very important, small & delicate - if you break them cover wont fit firmly and the antena patch may not connect well to the connector - you could understand the after effect.
so its a very bad idea - do only if you have a new cover again, most of time the cover sold doesnt comes with antena patch so you have to use some skill to get it intact from the old cover .
I am also looking to buy the Camera Cover (called Antena Cover) and the battery cover for a i-Mate or Qtek Wizard (Or any Wizard that has the i-Mate design) cos I snapped mine, well they were already loose, be careful when removing, my phones are 2nd hand and they were not very strong at all, you can break the hooks very easily, a bad design!
anyways, PM me if you have the parts to sell or know a shop online ships worldwide, vry interested (must have's).
cheers
Hi,
I recently purchased a HD2 on eBay. It was supposed to come immaculate but unfortunately there are dents on almost all corners. Rest if perfect.
I saw on eBay some chinese sellers selling new housing + battery covers for ~25 USD. So why not replacing the housing then? I decided to give it a try.
Well I have to say that it really did not work like in the videos I saw on youtube. I removed the 4 screws under the battery cover, gently pressed the back of the LCM outward but it really refused to pop out (no even half an inch). I discarded the pry tool (a very thine credit card actually) and even tried using a suction cup on the digitizer to pull it backwards but same problem. It's like the LCM/chassis was glued on the bezel. Phone has never been disassembled before (white sticker and void screw were still both there).
This is strange because in all the videos I saw the LCM/middle chassis was clearly not glued on the bezel. It immediately popped out a bit then you could start prying (and praying!). Ok I know that in those videos usually the phone has already been disassembled before so other attempts require less force to do it again for the recording.
My questions now to all the people who managed to do this. Did this require so much force? Is there a change and is HTC now glueing this part the LCM/middle chassis to the bezel? Any suggestion? Where is for you the best place to insert the pry tool when you start?
Thanks and regards,
Try flexing the plastic bezel above the earphone outwards a little while applying slight pressure to the sticker area on the back. There're two notches above which locks the frame to the pcb.
Hi,
Thanks for your help.
I will try that later.
I guess I might need to find a better pry tool.
BR.
Ok I managed to do it.
This required clearly some force on the pry tool (actually I used two plastic cards : a very thin and flexible one than a credit card). I started the operation above the earphone area.
Applying pressure on the sticker area was stresfull because the LCD immediately reacted to the pressure (hence a risk to break it or damage it). Best was to put two fingers on the sticker area to help the LCM module to pop out but with (almost) no pressure.
I had a doubt and now that I managed to remove the housing it's gone. The antennas (those white stuff you see in both top corners and at the bottom) are glued to the housing.
I prefer to spend a few more bucks to take a housing which has those antennas already in.
BR.
i had a similar frustrating experience to yours in trying to snap the back off the chassis on my hd2 which had a fingerprint on the *inside* of the camera cover glass which i needed to open it to get at.
it sure looks easy in that HTC disassembly video on youtube but the tech there is using a sort of plastic hooked tool for the job, which i didn't have, so i used my thumbnail instead in the same place (the upper left corner, looking at the phone from the front) and it took me a good 20 minutes of applying what seemed like unreasonable pressure to my touchscreen and nearly tearing my nail off to get it to pop out.
those snap-tabs the electronics manufacturers use to hold cases together -- even when they also have screws to do the job -- are one of my all-time pet hates. i usually end up breaking them off.
I will be doing the same thing soon. So the housing you removed has antennas glued to it ?. Thanks for that, I will try get new housing with antenna together if possible.
I replaced my screen a while back and can confirm the main body of the hd2 is glued to the sides of the chassis.
It does come out but with a lot of force but pry the glue lose around the whole chassis first by sliding a thin card right ot the bottom of the case and slowlyu move and pry it upwards with 2 cards one on the top and other on the right after you losend the glue. the top has the wifi adapter n that so be careful bottom has usb so mite break.
honestly i would say don't bother replacing it and just get a gel case or something to hide the damage. there's a high chance of messing the digitizer up and would just cause you more trouble of taking the whole phone apart bit by bit and trust me the components are tiny so easily breakable especially the ribbon cables they decided to use. my honest opinion don't
fallenmonk said:
I will be doing the same thing soon. So the housing you removed has antennas glued to it ?. Thanks for that, I will try get new housing with antenna together if possible.
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yep they are white thin bits glued to the top portion of the case. wifi on left and phone on right if i remember. its been quite a while though since i took my old hd2 apart
Now that I know how to do this I will be easier next time.
Yes antennas are glued in the housing so best is to buy a housing which has antennas already in.
Important note : the antenna which is at the bottom of the housing exists in two different versions : EU or US so check with the seller which one he sells.
BR.
Top left : Amphenol-BT&Wifi-090820
Top right : Amphenol-GPS-090820
Bottom : Amphenol-EU-090828
If T-Mobiles US you need Amphenol-US
sirec said:
I replaced my screen a while back and can confirm the main body of the hd2 is glued to the sides of the chassis.
It does come out but with a lot of force but pry the glue lose around the whole chassis first by sliding a thin card right ot the bottom of the case and slowlyu move and pry it upwards with 2 cards one on the top and other on the right after you losend the glue. the top has the wifi adapter n that so be careful bottom has usb so mite break.
honestly i would say don't bother replacing it and just get a gel case or something to hide the damage. there's a high chance of messing the digitizer up and would just cause you more trouble of taking the whole phone apart bit by bit and trust me the components are tiny so easily breakable especially the ribbon cables they decided to use. my honest opinion don't
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i don't believe it's glued. as far as i can see the the case is held together with screws and plastic interlocking tabs. the trick is to get the latter to unclip.
No glue indeed just notches locking the LCM module to the bezel
Ok case closed
I got my new housing and the replacement went fine. For those who could be interrested I bought it on ebay from the seller forceviewer_uk in China. Everything went perfect so I can recommend this guy.
So I dropped my phone today, and it must have fell on the corner good enough that it cracked the screen from the top-left to the middle-right.
Going to replace the digitizer/LCD as a combo since it's a bit easier than replacing just the digitizer.
Ordered this today:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350582267363?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Watched a couple of the repair videos (specifically this one: http://blog.repairsuniverse.net/how-to-fix-htc-rezound-screen/), and they say that there's adhesive on the back of this assembly as well that you need to pry away from (in the previously linked video, they push the assembly away from the housing from the backside and pry away from the housing/adhesive). My question is... am I going to have to replace this adhesive once I pry the assembly away from the housing? Or should the adhesive that's there be good enough to secure it as long as I don't rip it away very badly?
If I do need to get new adhesive, anybody have any links as to what to get?
Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
I never replace a screen before. good luck
Bump.
Still haven't done this, as I haven't had time on the weekends yet. Got a GNexus to get me by, but I'm missing my Rezound.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069YNZV2/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
doing all this is very tedious work... make sure you get the soft button hinges in correctly or the screen wont sit flat..
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069YNZV2/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
doing all this is very tedious work... make sure you get the soft button hinges in correctly or the screen wont sit flat..
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Should be less tedious since I got the LCD/Digitizer assembly together, so I don't have to replace just the digitizer.
I replaced the digitizer on mine last year. The process was just a disaster for me (ended up cracking my LCD)...but since yours is coming with the LCD and digitizer already glued together...perhaps you should have some better luck. It won't be necessarily difficult to do...it could just become a pain.
For one...there are clear tabs attached to the digitizer that essentially "draw" the red LED lights from the board down to the buttons on the bottom. These tabs are literally sandwiched between the digitizer and LCD...you'll see what I mean when you separate the broken digitizer/LCD from the housing...there will be 4 clear tabs sticking out from the bottom of the LCD. I did not find any seller that was selling those tabs, and it's quite possible the one you bought won't have them. What this means is...the 4 capacitive buttons along the bottom will still work, they just won't light up anymore. Not a big deal to some. I tried peeling them off my old digitizer and gluing them to the new one...but that didn't come out right at all. And your new LCD/digitizer will already be glued together and you're probably not going to want to separate them just to try and save the buttons.
Secondly, I've used the 3m double-sided roll of tape (like the one linked to above). It'll probably be your best bet...but know that, you could possibly need to redo it after a while of use. I could push on the top of my screen with my thumb, and I would see it kinda "flex" a bit, so the tape wasn't holding all too well. I'd also get fuzz and dirt on the screen of the front camera over time. So do a good, thorough job taping the digitizer/LCD down to the housing.
I lucked out (sort of) because my wife decided to give her Rez a bath and killed it. So I essentially took her digitizer, LCD and housing and use it on my phone.
OH, and don't overtighten the 6 screws for the red back housing! The bottom two screws especially. I did that and it cracked. And be gentle removing the red housing from the camera..sometimes the camera likes to get stuck inside of the camera housing and prying it apart will destroy it.
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I replaced the digitizer on mine last year. The process was just a disaster for me (ended up cracking my LCD)...but since yours is coming with the LCD and digitizer already glued together...perhaps you should have some better luck. It won't be necessarily difficult to do...it could just become a pain.
For one...there are clear tabs attached to the digitizer that essentially "draw" the red LED lights from the board down to the buttons on the bottom. These tabs are literally sandwiched between the digitizer and LCD...you'll see what I mean when you separate the broken digitizer/LCD from the housing...there will be 4 clear tabs sticking out from the bottom of the LCD. I did not find any seller that was selling those tabs, and it's quite possible the one you bought won't have them. What this means is...the 4 capacitive buttons along the bottom will still work, they just won't light up anymore. Not a big deal to some. I tried peeling them off my old digitizer and gluing them to the new one...but that didn't come out right at all. And your new LCD/digitizer will already be glued together and you're probably not going to want to separate them just to try and save the buttons.
Secondly, I've used the 3m double-sided roll of tape (like the one linked to above). It'll probably be your best bet...but know that, you could possibly need to redo it after a while of use. I could push on the top of my screen with my thumb, and I would see it kinda "flex" a bit, so the tape wasn't holding all too well. I'd also get fuzz and dirt on the screen of the front camera over time. So do a good, thorough job taping the digitizer/LCD down to the housing.
I lucked out (sort of) because my wife decided to give her Rez a bath and killed it. So I essentially took her digitizer, LCD and housing and use it on my phone.
OH, and don't overtighten the 6 screws for the red back housing! The bottom two screws especially. I did that and it cracked. And be gentle removing the red housing from the camera..sometimes the camera likes to get stuck inside of the camera housing and prying it apart will destroy it.
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Thanks for the heads up.
Swapped out the screen (didn't get any 3M tape yet, but I wanted to make sure the screen worked properly / multi-touch was recognized everywhere).
Swapped the screens, re-assembled (managed to leave some adhesive where the lcd/digitizer assembly pulls out of on there, so it sticks, but like what happens with you it flexes just a bit. Will probably order some 3M tape one of these days and take off all of the old adhesive and replace it. Glad you mentioned the issue with the camera getting stuck in the housing; that did happen to me, and I had to work it out of there. The tiny LED board did pop out of it's connector, but I popped it back in easily and it still works fine.
I also didn't put the soft-key light tabs in the new LCD/digitizer (like you said, didn't want to pry the new one apart). Doesn't bother me much anyway, as I had them turned off in my ROM anyway lol.
So far it works well. Won't be my daily again yet until I have some 3M tape to put on there so the assembly is secured in the housing.
Just an update. Got some double-sided tape, and scraped off the old, remnants of the previous tape that was there. Cut new strips to fit where the old ones were, and it fits much more securely now. No screen flex or wiggle anymore. Charging it back up, and thinking about flashing a different ROM now that I have it fixed.
All-in-all, it was a pretty easy fix.
I recently purchased a second hand Xperia Z2, and after about two weeks I discovered a shatter in the back. (I'm not sure when it broke because it was in a case.) Since that happened, I've had a closer look at the rear glass and I'm trying to work out whether it is original, or whether it has been replaced with a non-genuine back cover.
I've read through a number of posts discussion genuine vs non-genuine, and here is what I've noticed:
In favour of being genuine:
1. It has a SONY logo
2. The camera lens is actually a separate piece glued on to the case.
In favour of being fake:
1. The LED flash doesn't line up very well with the hole
2. There was no shatter-proof film (so far as I could tell): once the back broke, there was glass dust coming off all over the case and sharpish edges were exposed. It didn't all fall apart or anything, though.
I imagine I could tell if I actually pulled the back off, because the adhesive would probably be a giveaway. (It looks like the ones on eBay don't have the fine edge of adhesive, but rather have adhesive all over the place) but I'd rather not do that. At least, not unless I have a pretty good reason to check further.
Photo of lens/flash is attached.
Anyone have insights or thoughts? (Apart from "you're a klutz". I know that already). If you've got an XZ2 with an original back and want to post a pic of your flash alignment with the hole, I'd be curious to see it. Photos of the lens arrangement would be interesting too because my one looks a bit different to the one here - on mine the silver goes all the way to the edge, on that one it looks like the ring ends before the glued region. A lot like this one purchased from eBay.
Cheers!
(The follow-up question is: if it is a non-genuine replacement back, but I was the one to break it within a couple of weeks of getting the phone - despite it being in a cover - is it reasonable to go after the seller about it)
It seems to be a duplicate one. Its a little misaligned + the transparent glass covering the flash contains small-small rings.
The Writings part(20.7 MP...) is a little brighter than the actual. I don't know if u have used flash while taking this pic.
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It seems to be a duplicate one. Its a little misaligned + the transparent glass covering the flash contains small-small rings.
The Writings part(20.7 MP...) is a little brighter than the actual. I don't know if u have used flash while taking this pic.
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Nope, no flash, so I think you're right. Well spotted on the small rings on the flash too.
Pity it seems to be impossible to get a real 'genuine Z2 glass back' to replace it with.
I recently replaced my back with non-original parts, but mine is white color. So what I could notice, is that on original cover all of the grey text was a bit brighter. The fake part has noticeably darker text.
The silver ring around the camera looks like a fake plastic, what also seems to be the same in your case. + when I use the flashlight I can definitely see a square shape, but this one may be just in white models.
So I would say, based on your photo, 80% that it's a fake, especially when the led is badly aligned (even in my fake back panel it aligns well).
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This is 100% fake back plate, flash has no rings, plate color is too black, letters are too bright and printed on the glass and not inside the glass like on the original back plate. This is tue cheapest back plate you can get on ebay but there are good back plates that are almost identical to original Sony bp but are priced higher than 10 euro.
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Nope, no flash, so I think you're right. Well spotted on the small rings on the flash too.
Pity it seems to be impossible to get a real 'genuine Z2 glass back' to replace it with.
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i got originals here in belgium but they costs me 50€ each :/ fake ones are often quite thin and only cost 10-15€.
They break sometimes after 1 hour sometime 6 days.
goodluck If its not made of glass, than often its thinner and youl feel an edge on the back of your phone
Thanks for the help everyone! Now I just need to decide whether to complain to the seller and try to return the device or not.
And that's why buying second hand phones is hit and miss I guess. Gah.
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Thanks for the help everyone! Now I just need to decide whether to complain to the seller and try to return the device or not.
And that's why buying second hand phones is hit and miss I guess. Gah.
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I would return it if he didn't mentioned it in his auction.
Btw is your phone waterproof (pressure sensor test)?
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I would return it if he didn't mentioned it in his auction.
Btw is your phone waterproof (pressure sensor test)?
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It wasn't mentioned in the auction. Unfortunately I didn't notice until 32 days after sale, so the ebay guarantee doesn't apply *frustrated*.
Doing a pressure sensor test, the pressure does go up so it is still fully sealed (which I'm pretty surprised about, to be honest). Still, if it were submerged there would be forces on the camera lens etc that just pressing on it doesn't create, so I'm still not going to try to drown it =) Probably pretty safe for a rinse though.
If I can't sort it out with the seller, I might just buy a new back, remove the lens etc from the new one, put a thin coat of epoxy resin over the broken one and sandwich the new one onto it. Hopefully having two layers will increase the strength (if not the prettiness).
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It wasn't mentioned in the auction. Unfortunately I didn't notice until 32 days after sale, so the ebay guarantee doesn't apply *frustrated*.
Doing a pressure sensor test, the pressure does go up so it is still fully sealed (which I'm pretty surprised about, to be honest). Still, if it were submerged there would be forces on the camera lens etc that just pressing on it doesn't create, so I'm still not going to try to drown it =) Probably pretty safe for a rinse though.
If I can't sort it out with the seller, I might just buy a new back, remove the lens etc from the new one, put a thin coat of epoxy resin over the broken one and sandwich the new one onto it. Hopefully having two layers will increase the strength (if not the prettiness).
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Wow. It's still water resistant. In my case the glue was so bad, that my back panel got opened so I had to use some normal glue to make it stick. I replaced the back myself, so If I were you I wouldn't touch the back panel if you don't have any problems with it.
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Thanks to everyone who responded!
One last favour: just doing a minor battle over PayPal claim that the back is not original. It would be great if someone could just take a few snaps of the back of their phone with original glass (especially if it can include the detail of the lens and flash lens, which seem to be the most obvious differences between the Sony and non-Sony rear glass). I've got plenty of stock/review photos, but it would be really helpful to have a couple which are 'real' pics rather than stock ones.
Many thanks =)
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Thanks to everyone who responded!
One last favour: just doing a minor battle over PayPal claim that the back is not original. It would be great if someone could just take a few snaps of the back of their phone with original glass (especially if it can include the detail of the lens and flash lens, which seem to be the most obvious differences between the Sony and non-Sony rear glass). I've got plenty of stock/review photos, but it would be really helpful to have a couple which are 'real' pics rather than stock ones.
Many thanks =)
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Hope this helps, my point and shoot is out of batteries.
You can also point out the 20.7Mpix and G lens writing it is printed inside the glass and the cover is supposed to be blueish expecially when wet, like a shine trough effect.
Hi there sirs.
i have a problem with my z3. you see i tried to dip it down in the water, after that i noticed that there was a moist build up on the lens behind. Panicked, i tried to remove it using a lighter but very gently and quite a distance with the camera. i noticed that the moist did disappeared but came back again, though it was just immediate heating. so I decided to heat it longer than before, unfortunately i did not know that it was plastic because i thought it was a glass same with the whole back. now, the cover is somehow deformed, you can see that its not completely flat and smooth and there are some smudges inside. i was wondering since i heated that part, is the problem coming from the cover or the camera itself because everytime i take a photo it's having a hard time auto focusing, pictures are a little blurry and somehow like over exposed. i already changed the settings but still no luck.
I just need to know in your opinion, should i have the cover replaced or the camera itself is the one having the problem??
A good answer is highly appreciated sir.
This is the Z3v board for Verizon specific models. You may want to ask your question at the Z3 boards.
It's fairly well known that moisture issues are usually best remedied by a slower approach, such as opening the ports and placing the wet phone in a sealed container of rice (which absorbs water readily).
My guess is that you may have slightly melted one of the lenses inside the camera if they are composite. Another possibility is that the plastic or rubber that separates the lenses was distorted, causing a permanent misalignment of necessary for proper focal distance. Yet another possibility is that the heat could've altered a lens coating, like the UV coating, for example.
The autofocus uses contrast and line definition software to work. If the camera ccd sensor can't "see" clearly to get a fix on something, the lens will just keep trying to focus in and out but never get anywhere. It'll likely eat battery quickly, and overheat.
At any rate, you've probably done irreparable damaged to your camera unit.
You just need to change the battery cover. Most likely the back cover melted onto the camera sensor leaving it with no room to move to focus properly.