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So us AT&T guys and gals what will you do with your beloved SGS2 when the SGS3 arrives? I mean we are hearing 12 Mpx camera and quad core with possible 4.5 inch screen
well well, MWC is the announcement like I stated earlier.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/28/quad-core-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-to-be-unveiled-at-mwc-2012/
When is the SGS3 being released? My guess is not for quite a while since the GS2 is so popular with all the carriers. For me it doesn't matter as this phone is more than fast enough. And I judge fast by experiencing no lag when opening apps.
A multi core processor, like those in a desktop, really only make a difference in apps that can utilize all cores. I may be wrong but I'm guessing it might be a bit before most apps will.
Besides the SGS2 screen is about as big as I would go on a phone display. 4.5" is getting closer to a small tablet. Also for me, I rarely use the phone's camera for pictures that matter so it doesn't matter much for me.
Sorry, that was one downer of a post. I must still be bitter after my Broncos loss yesterday.
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From an xda/dev community perspective i don't think it'll be affected to much. Look at the GSII predecessor, I9000/captivate. Those forums are still going strong with plenty of devs. The captivate already has Ics running pretty smoothly with CM9 alpha! By the time the GSIII comes out, our phones will have some amazing roms with little to no issues(we already have a few).
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I had an iPhone 3g from January 2008 until September 2011. Now I have this phone. Going back to my 3g gave me a very slow experience.
If I can use another phone, and come back to the SGSII and if feels slow, then I'll upgrade.
In other words, ill be here awhile B)
looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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Source please?
Assuming my SGS2 is still running fine I won't do anything when the next one comes out. If it ain't broke don't fix it . I was on an iPhone 3g before this, main reason I upgraded was because my iPhone was so laggy I could barely use it. (well that and I was sick of iOS)
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Source please?
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Every year in February the Galaxy S is released and usually US version arrives in August /Sept
The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
Miami_Son said:
The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
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So if you hate these threads why chime in?
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No way are they gonna release sgs3 q1 2012. I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the a15 processor they are releasing with the sgs3 won't even be ready till q3 2012, which means it'll probably be around the end of summer 2012.
From what i can make out of the screen shot it says it has 2gb RAM, 12 mp camera, 2 ghz exynos 5250, and a 4.6 in HD Super AMOLED + display... I may marry this damn phone.
heres a lil teaser... lol http://www.techradar.com/images/zoom/samsung-galaxy-s3-1033039/index1 and heres a piece on the Exynos that'll be in the gs3... http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-to-be-powered-by-2ghz-dual-core-chip-1044595 WAIT!! HOLD THE PHONES!!! QUAD CORE BABY!!! (which would make sense considering HTC already announced a wuad core device) http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...alaxy-s3-to-be-quad-core-mind-blower--1042710
Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Exactly! Also if you follow the release of the galaxy line its always Feb internationally and august summer
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Besides we have to realize by February the gs2 will be a year old international version
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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A few mistakes i think. Correct me if im wrong
1. The HTC Edge is the phone think youre refering to as the ville is reported to be a dual core. I have not seen anything suggesting that the Edge will come out sooner than End Q1/ Early Q2 which is why i jumped on the GS2
2. I thought the GS2 was initially released in April not February.
3. Im not familiar with android and its apps coding but ive have indeed done searching to see if it could actually take advantage of quad core. I found little info but what i did find suggested it that it currently doesnt really stress dual core phone enough to suggest much of an improvement jumping to quad core. Developers could probably shed light on this and i would love their feed back. Ive been meaning to make a thread on this.
4. You are right a quad core will beat a dual core but only in an enviornment that would take advantage of 4 threads. If these android device are not going to really use the 2 extra threads then mhz and cache are going tdo be the things to improve on. I dont want quad corw if its going drain the **** out of my battery for minimal peformance gains.
Samsung is claiming that thier 2ghz 5250 is twice as fast as their 1.5ghz dual A9 core offerings which sounds like more power than these phone are going to use. Unless these higher res screen are ggoing to make that big of an impact and thats really gpu side performance .
OP, you left out 2 crucial details- for one, how much will it run us/will ATT get in AND will they butcher it (like Skyrocket came to be) or not? I honestly feel we struck insane luck w/ GS2 being left mostly untouched and I don't forsee this happening again anytime soon.
well from what i have been told all Galaxy S phones will be left almost untouched from SGS2 forward. The agreement seems to be as long as its galaxy S it stays almost untouched. The captivate previous and skyrocket are variants not SGS therefore the mostly at&t differentiation. The SGS3 will follow like the SGS2, ps the Galaxy Nexus is coming to AT&T in February http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/galaxy-nexus-coming-to-att-in-february/
Well hopefully they will figure out to get Exynos to work with the LTE chipsets.
im thinking that will be a definite, a matter of short time really
Mediatek which is famous for producing cheap SoC is reported to bring new mediatek 6588 quad core and mediatek 6583 dual core processors. While both processors will be clocked at abt 1.5-1.7 Ghz but what is really amazing is that they will be based on 28nm fabrication process. Yes you heard it right its 28 nm, the same as used in qualcomm snapdragon s4 krait processors. Performance of 28nm processor is already evident as one s which uses dual core krait processor easily defeats its bigger sibling one x in synthetic benchmarks which uses last generation quad core. Not to forget 28nm processors consumes less juice and runs a lot cooler.
So folks looking up for new phones might just decide to wait a bit longer.
More info here http://www.androidauthority.com/mediatek-quad-core-mt6588-smartphone-soc-release-date-105722/
Now some news for guys who are ready to empty up their pockets for some great technology. Samsung will be bringing new exynos SoC based on 20nm and 14nm fabrication process. The performance and battery life these chips will deliver can only be dreamt of . So guys a lot to come next year in terms of horse power.
Source :- http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-20nm-14nm-exynos-chipset-factory-93774/
Guys provide your opinions abt how will this change the current smartphone scenario. Well m excited abt it
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Guys provide your opinions abt how will this change the current smartphone scenario. Well m excited abt it
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Actually I was thinking about buying nexus 7 after xii exams so I will get it more cheaper but if this is true so I would liked to wait more
Ofcourse,if world doesn't end at December month! (my birthday is in that month!)
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Actually I was thinking about buying nexus 7 after xii exams so I will get it more cheaper but if this is true so I would liked to wait more
Ofcourse,if world doesn't end at December month! (my birthday is in that month!)
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Good news for you too Soon a 3g version of nexus 7 will be made available by Asus
Great news!
What do you think of this guys
Samsung announces industry’s first ...le-memory-using-30nm-class-technology-115998/
fundoozzz said:
What do you think of this guys
Samsung announces industry’s first ...le-memory-using-30nm-class-technology-115998/
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Your link is broken.
Works for me
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http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-announces-industry-first-2gb-lpddr3-mobile-memory-using-30nm-class-technology-115998/
This is the link
more news....
http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/18/samsung-starts-mass-production-of-128gb-memory-for-mobile-devices/
Just how much more technology can you put in a phone before its not even considered a phone anymore. 10 years from now desktop pc‘s might be obsolete. Its just amazing to me on how quickly phones have envolved. In 2008, us users got a taste of the first major android phones with the HTC G1 and that was revolutionary technology at the time. Now every major mobile phone carrier has atleast one if not two dual core, even quad core processor technolgy mobile phones
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Just how much more technology can you put in a phone before its not even considered a phone anymore. 10 years from now desktop pc‘s might be obsolete. Its just amazing to me on how quickly phones have envolved. In 2008, us users got a taste of the first major android phones with the HTC G1 and that was revolutionary technology at the time. Now every major mobile phone carrier has atleast one if not two dual core, even quad core processor technolgy mobile phones
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desktop PC's will always be preferred by gamers IMO . Tablets and smartphones are the future. We need to look more into the software side. Hardware improvement will never end. But what about software? what radical changes will be brought next in the operating system? Voice assistant has to improve a lot till it becomes perfect. Bluetooth transfer speed has to improve as well. Things like NFC, using mobile for payments. Its an interesting future ahead
It doesn't matter to me I won't get the next phone till am earning it myself!! I have to wait for 5-6 years to get a new phone!!!! So am just going with the o1!!!!!
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What abt if someone says that there exists a 51ghz 64 core mobile processor
Well it does exists.. check out here http://www.androidauthority.com/adapteva-51ghz-64-cores-kickstarter-118888/
If the article about the "super chip" is true, it would eat batteries for breakfast lunch and dinner. We're likely to see performance creep up until they get the quad core battery consumption under control. Also, we'll have to see more support for core-disable functionality, since that will at least let the machine less of a power drain when it's at rest.
My 2 cents anyway.
Say goodbye to S4
http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-600-and-800-145651/
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
Edit:
Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
AdX9170 said:
Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.
hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
Its a totally awesome phone. Most htc phones have something about them that is noticeably lacking... But not this model. Even today it is just a kick ass device.
But whatever you do, don't buy the attached version. There is a reason they are $100 cheaper on eBay. Basically ZERO Dev support. The international version gets all the goods. Sucks too because the att version works at full speed with any gsm carrier
Buy it dude!! HOX+ is one of the legendary devices.. It's camera is excellent.. on par with the current generation devices..
But on the other side, HOX+ will eventually lose its battery backup capacity easily.. and it becomes hot on continuos usage.. so think carefully before you buy..
'Be careful what you wish for'
Good luck:laugh:
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hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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It's a great phone, I've always loved it. But there are better phones, many.
True about the Tegra 3, it heats up while gaming. Battery life is not that great (especially on mine, 2yo).
Camera is acceptable, but I wouldn't call it great. The screen however, is like one of best out there.
Differences between the One X and the One X+ is the internal memory and an upgraded Tegra 3 (for the +).
Additionally also Glosnass support for the +
It's old tech, wouldn't buy it right now. Buy a new generation phone with a newer processor, because the nVidia chipset in this one is outdated.
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
Buddy you should update yourself since this phone is stuck at 4.2.2 while Samsung S3 is getting kitkat updates. Further huawei P7 doesnt even heat up on games like San Andreas since my friend and i compared it. One x + no doubt is a lovely phone but please in 2014 dont buy it. Further game experience is laggy. I am using it so i know better..
Goodluck.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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Dude, Dont buy.
buy Tegra only with nexus devices otherwise screw NVIDIA.
oh!
Whatever! It's a very nice device.. Just buy it..! :laugh:
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
Not really
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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That is great. :good:
Just want you to know something. Don't always be so full of yourself and be nice to those who are nice to you.
I am in a dilemma deciding if I should buy the current version or wait for the Xperia Z4 Ultra (E6833) which has been speculated in online reports.
Some people say though that it will only release in Japan only.
What you guys think?
Buy the current version, if it comes with a Snapdragon 810 performance will be about the same and heat and battery life disappointing. Also the current version was $675 USD at launch. With the noises Sony is making about high end devices it will be the same or more probably, and you'll have to wait a year again before it's cheap.
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On the other hand, maybe they'll fix some people's screen sensitivity issues in the new one....
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I would buy the current version and no, it is not because of the "foul word" called "throttling" (to me, it is perfectly normal that 100% power isn't sustainable 100% of the time). I must admit that I grin when I read moaning about "throttling". To me, it has always been perfectly normal that "maximum power" and "maximum continuous power" is two different settings. It is like with jet engines, you "throttle" them after 90 seconds approximately since prolonged use of take-off power means abnormal wear and tear - it is downright inappropriate.
Same with a CPU: 2.5 GHz max clock, for prolonged use, 1.8 GHz or so. Intel "throttles" their CPUs with their "Turbo Boost" - don't see anything wrong.
I rather have 2.5 GHz available than doing the "Apple Way" and underclock to 1.3 GHz just in order to call it "max" and then brag about "my CPU is better than yours because (it is underclocked, don't tell anyone) it can run at 100% speed for 24 hours (because it is underclocked, don't tell anyone).
The reason for buying the current version is:
1. It is an excellent device with Android 5.1 available and great ROM development.
2. The performance, display and so on is more than satisfactorily. I must admit that I don't feel any situations where I would ask for more CPU power. Despite its age, Snapdragon 800 has been such a great CPU that it really moved everything up to a level where it is possible to say "fast enough".
3. The prices are excellent, buy one and then sell it if the Z4 or Y Ultra is interesting.
4. The Z4/Y Ultra E6833 isn't even released and is probably not available until fall so it is the question of waiting all those months or not.
I think the Ultra is an excellent device and with the prices it has, it is a "steal". I paid $349 for my C6833 five months ago or so and nothing else comes close - it is less than half of what I paid for my C6802 in August 2013.
The only drawback is the camera but I have a DSC-QX10 for that and the internal one is "enough" for those "quickie shoots" if need be.
I agree that throttling itself is not a problem, it's *excessive* throttling that's the issue, which is occurring because it's overheating easily. Snapdragon 800 throttles also, but not to the point that performance is suboptimal.
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I paid $269 for mine, the international LTE model on Expansys.
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I treat current Z Ultra as a better choice, if the new one will not release until Sept 2015 or it comes with 810. The only thing you might suffer is the camera: )
More information on the Snapdragon 810: In-depth with the Snapdragon 810’s heat problems
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
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There are other choices available also
1. Huawei P8 Max
2. LeTV Max
Both slated to be released in the next 1 or 2 months or so.
Leechoonhwee said:
There are other choices available also
1. Huawei P8 Max
2. LeTV Max
Both slated to be released in the next 1 or 2 months or so.
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I endorse this reply. Don't count out the Mediapad X2 either.
Hey guys, thanks so much for the feedback, I decided to go for the Z Ultra, its the Perfect size for a phone IMO....I think the 7" one is a little too big to carry in your pocket for everyday use, but still really nice.
I also found the Huawei P8 Max a little too thick, and then you have to factor in the case which makes it even bigger... I also personally love Sony's interface, its so clean and easy to use.