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Hello,
I just want some opinions on how future proof people think the sgs2 is.
The prices have dropped a bit.
but im mainly concerned over the new hardware that is coming in early 2012, as well as the galaxy nexus as an alternative..
Thanks
its one of the fastest smoothest phones available today it can support Ice Cream sandwich and who keeps a phone more than a couple of years anyway the early quad cores are coming soon so it's good for a couple of years reckon I'll get a an sgsIII when my contract runs out next august depending on specs etc
nesx87 said:
Hello,
I just want some opinions on how future proof people think the sgs2 is.
The prices have dropped a bit.
but im mainly concerned over the new hardware that is coming in early 2012, as well as the galaxy nexus as an alternative..
Thanks
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The Galaxy S II is pretty future proof, one of the reasons I bought it.
I remember one of the first reviews mentioned it as a 'plus'. Its future proof.
One of the reasons is it contains so many things, like bluetooth 3.0, DNLa, MHL (HDMI), Wifi Direct and a lot of crap of wirless options.
Second it has still one of the best dual core processors. While quad core processors might start showing up in phones in 2012, everything is still being optimized for dual core. At the end of 2012/beginning of 2013 it may be smart to buy a quad core phone. The idea is this dual core processor wil be good for at least another 1,5 year.
The screen is nice, its no HD 720p resolution but that doesnt mean our WVGA res isnt future proof.
Anyways... Ice Cream Sandwich has been officialy confirmed by Samsung. And after that, we have XDA that will put out perfect ROMs with the future Android versions.
Anyways... I would say its future proof. As long as you dont mind not having 'the latest of everytjing'. Because sooner or later better phone's will come out (that doesnt mean the S II will not be excellent anymore!)
Nothing is future proof... Better question is, what will hold its resale value.
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I think that SG2 is best you can buy at the moment and for the next 1 year it will be one of mostly wanted phones......
The only thing it lacks for future proof is an HD screen and a quad core. However, SMAOLED+ is the best looking screen technology out right now and Exynos is the fastest dual core SoC.
Basically, the SGS2 will be good for another year but after that I would consider upgrading.
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I also like to think that A LOT of geeks decided to upgrade to this phone when it was released. It was hyped a lot before release, and it just said BOOM! It is now the best android mobile out there.
-Because of this this exact mobile is going to have an incredible amount of fans out there developing roms, tweaks and whatnot...
It sure will be future software wise, and if you really think about what the hardware specs are good for - I don't think you will disappointed in the next two years or so
Thats my opinion anyway...
This phone is like htc desire in his time, it was relased 14.5.2010 and now year and a half from then is still great phone so i think that SGS2 will be great for next year and more....
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jukosic said:
This phone is like htc desire in his time, it was relased 14.5.2010 and now year and a half from then is still great phone so i think that SGS2 will be great for next year and more....
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The desire users have now all run into it's limitations, mainly a huge lack of internal storage space. Only tweakers will start using a2sd+, so most people will just live with the limitations.
Android 2.2 is also one of those limitations, only tweakers will be able to upgrade to anything higher.
And physical buttons that lose functionality as well, not to mention the crappy camera!
So, it's not about what Mr. XDA can do with the phone, it will be whatever Joe/Jane average will be able to do with it 12-18 months from now compared to new smartphones what will determine the value.
I was youst saying about hardweare specs, desire had the best HW spec for his time and he last for quite some time now....
2013, sgs2 still going strong ICS is old news... JB now, lol...
Why resurrect this thread?
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its not future proof at all in fact official software updates will end after 4.2.1/4.2.2
and roms such as cyanogen mod will not upgrade to the next android version since samsung doesn't provide support
Nothing is future proof... We're always looking for and creating something new... This is a good phone, the only thing that can out do it is hardware... Android is running out of things to apply or implement into phones... They didn't even come up with a new name for 4.2.x... I look forward to see what exotic dessert they'll name the next, lol...
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I look forward to see what exotic dessert they'll name the next, lol...
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I thought Key Lime Pie name for the upcoming release was already known, was it not?
It's funny, digging up a thread from 2011 about how future-proof this phone is... By now, I think the time has shown that in 2011 it was quite future-proof indeed. I'd say at the moment it's still very capable device, which in the world of tech and electronics is truly amazing.
So us AT&T guys and gals what will you do with your beloved SGS2 when the SGS3 arrives? I mean we are hearing 12 Mpx camera and quad core with possible 4.5 inch screen
well well, MWC is the announcement like I stated earlier.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/28/quad-core-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-to-be-unveiled-at-mwc-2012/
When is the SGS3 being released? My guess is not for quite a while since the GS2 is so popular with all the carriers. For me it doesn't matter as this phone is more than fast enough. And I judge fast by experiencing no lag when opening apps.
A multi core processor, like those in a desktop, really only make a difference in apps that can utilize all cores. I may be wrong but I'm guessing it might be a bit before most apps will.
Besides the SGS2 screen is about as big as I would go on a phone display. 4.5" is getting closer to a small tablet. Also for me, I rarely use the phone's camera for pictures that matter so it doesn't matter much for me.
Sorry, that was one downer of a post. I must still be bitter after my Broncos loss yesterday.
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From an xda/dev community perspective i don't think it'll be affected to much. Look at the GSII predecessor, I9000/captivate. Those forums are still going strong with plenty of devs. The captivate already has Ics running pretty smoothly with CM9 alpha! By the time the GSIII comes out, our phones will have some amazing roms with little to no issues(we already have a few).
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I had an iPhone 3g from January 2008 until September 2011. Now I have this phone. Going back to my 3g gave me a very slow experience.
If I can use another phone, and come back to the SGSII and if feels slow, then I'll upgrade.
In other words, ill be here awhile B)
looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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Source please?
Assuming my SGS2 is still running fine I won't do anything when the next one comes out. If it ain't broke don't fix it . I was on an iPhone 3g before this, main reason I upgraded was because my iPhone was so laggy I could barely use it. (well that and I was sick of iOS)
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Source please?
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Every year in February the Galaxy S is released and usually US version arrives in August /Sept
The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
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The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
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So if you hate these threads why chime in?
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No way are they gonna release sgs3 q1 2012. I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the a15 processor they are releasing with the sgs3 won't even be ready till q3 2012, which means it'll probably be around the end of summer 2012.
From what i can make out of the screen shot it says it has 2gb RAM, 12 mp camera, 2 ghz exynos 5250, and a 4.6 in HD Super AMOLED + display... I may marry this damn phone.
heres a lil teaser... lol http://www.techradar.com/images/zoom/samsung-galaxy-s3-1033039/index1 and heres a piece on the Exynos that'll be in the gs3... http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-to-be-powered-by-2ghz-dual-core-chip-1044595 WAIT!! HOLD THE PHONES!!! QUAD CORE BABY!!! (which would make sense considering HTC already announced a wuad core device) http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...alaxy-s3-to-be-quad-core-mind-blower--1042710
Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Exactly! Also if you follow the release of the galaxy line its always Feb internationally and august summer
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Besides we have to realize by February the gs2 will be a year old international version
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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A few mistakes i think. Correct me if im wrong
1. The HTC Edge is the phone think youre refering to as the ville is reported to be a dual core. I have not seen anything suggesting that the Edge will come out sooner than End Q1/ Early Q2 which is why i jumped on the GS2
2. I thought the GS2 was initially released in April not February.
3. Im not familiar with android and its apps coding but ive have indeed done searching to see if it could actually take advantage of quad core. I found little info but what i did find suggested it that it currently doesnt really stress dual core phone enough to suggest much of an improvement jumping to quad core. Developers could probably shed light on this and i would love their feed back. Ive been meaning to make a thread on this.
4. You are right a quad core will beat a dual core but only in an enviornment that would take advantage of 4 threads. If these android device are not going to really use the 2 extra threads then mhz and cache are going tdo be the things to improve on. I dont want quad corw if its going drain the **** out of my battery for minimal peformance gains.
Samsung is claiming that thier 2ghz 5250 is twice as fast as their 1.5ghz dual A9 core offerings which sounds like more power than these phone are going to use. Unless these higher res screen are ggoing to make that big of an impact and thats really gpu side performance .
OP, you left out 2 crucial details- for one, how much will it run us/will ATT get in AND will they butcher it (like Skyrocket came to be) or not? I honestly feel we struck insane luck w/ GS2 being left mostly untouched and I don't forsee this happening again anytime soon.
well from what i have been told all Galaxy S phones will be left almost untouched from SGS2 forward. The agreement seems to be as long as its galaxy S it stays almost untouched. The captivate previous and skyrocket are variants not SGS therefore the mostly at&t differentiation. The SGS3 will follow like the SGS2, ps the Galaxy Nexus is coming to AT&T in February http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/galaxy-nexus-coming-to-att-in-february/
Well hopefully they will figure out to get Exynos to work with the LTE chipsets.
im thinking that will be a definite, a matter of short time really
Sweet, we know it exists. I'd be nice if HTC told us when to expect it. Any idea?
They won't officially say when, until they are ready to deliver it, except in very general terms like 3Q 2112 2012...
Edit** Might be 100 years...
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They won't officially say when, until they are ready to deliver it, except in very general terms like 3Q 2112...
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Damn 100 years from now :/
it'll most likely make it's debut in quad-core phones around sep/oct+ and if it comes to the rezound(may not though) it won't happen until 2013.
I say we'll see Sense 4.0 officially the same time we see ICS officially, which is probably late spring, early summer.
I don't know if we are getting sense 4.0, that might only be reserved for s4 processors and tegra 3
I'm living on a yellow submarine
I forsee Sense 3.6 ontop of 4.0.1. HTC's response " Got One X?"
Don't we have a 4.0.3 leak already?
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Don't we have a 4.0.3 leak already?
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Yeah we do. Just saying it would be pretty funny if HTC did that lololol. 3.6 ontop of 4.0.1. If that happens we know the T in HTC stands for troll.
Why is it on HTC's website that the one x has a dual s4 processor 1.5 GHz and not a tegra 3
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because, in america, it's being released as a dual 1.5 instead of the quad..don't ask me why lol
Cause Tegra 3 isn't LTE compatible.
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because, in america, it's being released as a dual 1.5 instead of the quad..don't ask me why lol
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Saw that a little while ago. That's only going to accelerate the bad attitude towards HTC that's been building lately. So much for their flagship phones in 2012 promise, huh?
That's good for my psyche though. My jealousy meter pegged at 0 once I heard that. Not to mention ATT (I've had no real issues with them, but I've always worked out in the sticks where only E is available).
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Saw that a little while ago. That's only going to accelerate the bad attitude towards HTC that's been building lately. So much for their flagship phones in 2012 promise, huh?
That's good for my psyche though. My jealousy meter pegged at 0 once I heard that. Not to mention ATT (I've had no real issues with them, but I've always worked out in the sticks where only E is available).
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Not HTC's fault that Nvidia couldn't deliver LTE compatibility. If you're going to bash on HTC.. Why not get a different brand of phone? That's the wonders of Android! Choices! TBH we won't even need quadcore on our devices.. It's a huge unecessary hardware bump used to cover up crappy coding that Google still hasn't fixed. It's just the nature of the beast know as Android. The dualcore coming up in the one X blows away our dualcore in benches. But for everyday performance probably no difference. I'm going to just post this http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2 so your jealousy meter will go back up .
im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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For everyday usage you won't notice a damn difference between the two. At this point I feel that all dual core phones are unecessary. There's just nothing in the market that really challenges the current devices on the market. All I can really see is use quadcore bench, flex epeen at smartphone benches = win? If you're talking about performance differences don't even sweat. I'm sure there will be better 3D performance on the s4 and tegra 3, but original point, nothing on the market to challenge our hardware. If you're talking about physical architecural differences in each processor, check out the wikis for each perspective processor.
honestly, i don't even care. those new phones, from the start, i KNEW were going to be for ATT or Tmo..look at the design, it's just like HTC's stuff on those carriers anyway..verizon's HTC stuff looks much different.
either way, i'm not upset in having the rezound, because honestly, it's perfect. i highly doubt any of that stuff is that much of a big step up from the rezound, so i'm def not feeling any buyers remorse lol
True that. We have the best hardware. Still....I had a rezound....took it back. Got a gnex...then ditched it for a rezound. I think this is the perfect phone. Its sturdy, and has what I want. Beats, great camera, and it has good radios...
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bal1985 said:
im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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I think i read something on either Phandroid or AndroidCentral when the S4 was announced that it actually out-benched the Tegra. If nothing else, it was close.
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I think i read something on either Phandroid or AndroidCentral when the S4 was announced that it actually out-benched the Tegra. If nothing else, it was close.
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Hence the link that Zets just linked a few posts up. The S4 chip (which I was initially hoping the Rezound was going to be released with) is pretty bad ass and is some competition with that Quad from Invidia. I am just wondering what the power consumption would be like with the Nvidia (Quad plus one) and the Dual of the S4 chip. Curious how this will play out...
All in all, just as others have stated, these newer phones have a marginal increase in horsepower compared to the Rezound and that's pretty much it besides being released with Sense 4.0. I'll sit back and enjoy my Rez for a bit longer than I expected and happy to do so.
I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516924
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate BGR
I stopped reading at "BGR".
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I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
Love my Note, regrets = NO.
but's it's battle for my wife S3 or IP5
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[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate BGR
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Yeah me too I read it at http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/ which cited BGR.. still (its own quad didn't surprise me) but 1080p!
Still curious about its battery & speaker/s (hopefully more impressive than the Note's speaker). Would it have been so hard for Samsung to launch the Note with ICS in February? Does the Nexus have some kind of phone ICS exclusivity until March as some Samsung rep suggested to me at the Note launch..?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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Everyone knows iBGR is not a reliable source..
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While I have no faith in the reliability of these two sources and as a result don't pay much mind to anything that they and other such sites write, I still find reading the comments section of articles like those very much entertaining.
For example,
Person 1: What will be the marketing price?
Person 2: Most coments sayng its fake :O
Person 1: Even I think so .. It dont even have single button ..
What Apple cant even do
Uh. Galaxy Nexus? Hmmm. Some of those iSheep never cease to amaze me with their ignorance.
Another common topic:
"um. doesn't ceramic shatter ridiculously easily?"
"Won't it shatter if you drop it?"
"Ceramic = Heavy as hell? no?"
Granted, they are stating it in a question form, showing they truly don't know **** about ceramics and their wide array of characteristics. At least there are some other comment posters that know about ceramics and will hopefully quell the blind ignorance. It just amuses me when people spew about a product and bash it about something that they are completely wrong about. People need t do more research.
Lastly, I love when people bash a phone over it's size. That's just blatant bias in the most obvious form.
"I don't see the value in making the screen 4.8" (what happened to normal sized phones?)"
4.8" may not be normal to some, but it is perfectly normal to somebody with large hands such as myself. In fact, using an iPhone is cumbersome to me, so their normal sized phone is in fact "not normal" to me. I hate when people state their own opinions and biases as fact. I will see my note as a big middle finger to all people who care about my phone's size. It's my phone, piss off and worry about your own life. I already have people shocked with the size of my Infuse, and I just laugh saying it's the best phone I've ever used by far, mostly due to the size. However, that is not true for everybody, and I let them know that I like the size of such phones because my hands are huge.
How can you state something like the "phone is too big"? It should be, "this phone is too big for me." See what I did there? removing bias makes your statements so much less controversial and fanboy hate-inducing. Most of these people fail to realize that nobody really gives a flying fack about some other random person's opinion on the internet. Or at least they shoudn't, but sadly (or maybe more entertainingly) people get dragged into arguments on tech blogs all due to the fact that they cannot recognize bias and opinion, and cannot distinguish between those and fact. I can't believe these tech sites get away with so much heavy bias and still continue to rack up the views. Granted, I contributed a view, but an unbiased one at that.
I don't have any problem with people commenting on these sites with their opinions about a device, but they should leave it at that, an opinion, and not try to state it as fact. Overall, I am proud of Android users in the way that they tend to be the more calm, collect, and unbiased commenters compared to a lot of iSheep. Both sides have their radicals, but I think the Apple slaves tip the scales with crazy. Haha. Provides good entertainment to say the least. =]
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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I'm glad someone with TF201 experience spoke up, I still want to see a TF700 series with its 1080p display+improved GPS-wireless.
In all the coverage at MWC of quad core phones with these smallish batteries, I'm still surprised there aren't more inquiries into battery life specs..especially with LTE.
BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for the I717?
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BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for
the I717?
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
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No LTE switch hacks?
"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
Price
what will be the price of this phone??
Scythe024 said:
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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The Qualcomm dual core beats the nvidia quad core in benchmarks.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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better camera sensors are great but would be nice to see optics upgraded and talked about more. Megapixles and sensors are important but optics are what makes great pics.
I haven't really been keeping up with the new phones and the ones coming out, I had no intention of selling my amaze anytime soon.. but I found this page(http://www.digitaltrends.com/highlight/t-mobile/) and saw they are still listing our amaze - I thought for sure websites would have stopped pushing it.. then I saw that tmobile is now selling the amaze for free! Damn you tmo!
But I was wondering what people thought about other phones that are coming out? I did some light researching and the galaxy s3 euro version looks pretty nice, with the quad core - why the US versions they keep pulling that out, I have no idea.. but 2100mah battery (that can be accessed!) and external sd, the camera pics and video look good(but still not as good as ours) - overall it seems a good competitor.
But rather than do tons more research, I'm sure some people here have some phones they are salivating about, or perhaps pissed off(dual core S2 for the US, wtf?!) about.. and I figured I'd say hi here rather than just stalk the development forums like usual!
So what's good?
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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For all phone goodies I check gsmarena.com
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Im going to wait for the Samsung note 2 with hopes that it will be sold in T-Mobile and quad-core.
fuego77 said:
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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that is about how I feel, but I'm not a true htc cannot yet.. so I won't discriminate yet. My old vibrant was okay, but I felt the quality was low enough I'd be hesitant to go with Samsung again..
Everyone else is fair game, if another manufacturer makes a quality quad core, that is when I'd consider a jump from the amaze.. but I haven't been doing a lot of research into what is coming out till now.
And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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that is true. But with the Galaxy s3 coming out with dual core here in the U.S, main reason is quad core exynos doesn't support LTE just yet.
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wait for one of the AOSP devices coming to Tmobile. Show these manufacturers that they need to stop focusing on coding unnecessary skins and leave the Android system vanilla, and instead focus on making better hardware that utilizes the power of the processing chips more efficiently in the way that WP phones do out of the box. and better cameras, better quality materials and most importantly, maximizing battery life.
i know i'll be going for whatever Jelly Bean device i'm assuming Tmobile will get. if not i'll just purchase whatever GSM unlocked one Google Play decides to sell.
Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Right on! All issues can be overcome if they really want it badly. It's a matter of time. Business wise, time is what many companies cannot afford due to competition. Supply and demand in an overly competitive industry is at stake.
I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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Actually, you made some really valid points - I was talking to someone yesterday about how technology hasn't really improved THAT much in the last 20+ years besides a few things, pretty much everything is the same and it is just getting smaller and faster.. and that is more so true at this point. Phones, computers, until they do something different or better, the increases in speed is becoming meaningless.
For me the selling point on the quad core is the 5th core with the lower clock speed that handles the non-heavy lifting and is supposed to increase battery. I would probably just shut off 2 of the cores and keep that benefit.. If you actually understand how multi-core cpus work then you know that they each handle a different thread(or task) - it has no benefit having more than 2 cores unless there are more than 2 things that need to be done at once(like processing video and audio at the same time).
The BIGGEST change I would like to see with all of these advances in technology - make a better battery. The military has several battery technologies that are far more efficient than what we have access to.. as soon as those things go public, THEN we might have some true awesomeness.. until then we can only make things faster and/or more efficient.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I couldn't agree more !
So much, I will more than likely keep this phone till next contract, which is a year plus away. Does everything I need.
I probably stand a lone ground on this, but with what I said up top.....I would consider a BB10 phone as long as it is QWERTY. Really miss my physical keyboard. If they can bring some better apps to the table with a decent screen and still decent battery, I may switch. I don't care about market share ....I get what I want, not what is in....
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As soon as they finish setting up the 1900 service, I will be buying an iPhone. Hopefully the iPhone 5 came out by then.