I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
saurabh40629 said:
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
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That is exactly what I was curious about. I see that your android experience as far as custom roms and features goes differs far from mine. I used to install custom roms when i bought my first android smartphone (i9100). tried out almost every rom that was available at the time... from CM to AOKP, Paranoid Android and many others. I now own Oneplus x and had just yesterday installed AOSParadox. my experience with it for now is that it is fluid and seems stable enough for daily use. the only thing I miss is tristate keys. CM13.1 in retrospect had some bugs with the flashlight and with google now(home button)... but maybe it was fixed in the meantime. sudamod, resurrection remix, mokee, aicp where exacly what I wrote about and had too many features that for me are not that useful as a user.
The main reason for writing my post was because I saw a lot of users here and on oneplus forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
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That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
s3r3tin said:
That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
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I believe that both could easily see a boost. Take Boeffla for instance. Makes the device feel an entire tier or two higher in performance then it is with just the stock kernel. As for what I'd like to see INA kernel, here's a list
1. HID Keyboard and CDROM support
2. F2FS support for cache
3. A CAF base
4. Unlocked voltage and clock speed
5. 3.10 instead of 3.4
6. CM 13 support
That's what comes to mind. Boeffla does most things for me and battery life is great but it lacks CM support. AK is pretty awesome in terms of performance enhancements, Franco was amazing back when I used it (last I checked you'd edit a file for configuration versus using an auditor), and Despair is really great
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Oh and something built with the Sabermod toolchain would be pretty swell.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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You see, the thing with custom roms is that you just use what's available. It is difficult to put request in the open.
For instance I like custom stock roms, which totally isn't available. But I'm not in the position to ask for this. The only thing we can do (as non developers) is to support this particular scene, if one day a dev cooks one up. Which for aosp already has been done.
So go ahead and install and try the few aosp and participate with this community, to make better aosp roms. Which eventually will result in more aosp roms.
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Which roms (or rom families, really) are best for which purposes? I know some are designed to be fast and lightweight, while others go for the richest user experience, or other specialized purpose/situation.
My question is how can I find out the aim of the various roms?
The rom threads focus mostly on features provided and what rom family (if any) they based it on. Since I have no idea the aim of the original rom family (aokp, cm, miui, etc.) it's hard to decide which one is right for me.
Which player do you have?
dstarfire said:
Which roms (or rom families, really) are best for which purposes? I know some are designed to be fast and lightweight, while others go for the richest user experience, or other specialized purpose/situation.
My question is how can I find out the aim of the various roms?
The rom threads focus mostly on features provided and what rom family (if any) they based it on. Since I have no idea the aim of the original rom family (aokp, cm, miui, etc.) it's hard to decide which one is right for me.
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Stock ROMs, which most of the customs ROMs out there are based on, are probably the most stable but the performance won't be as good.
CM7 and CM9 are slim and super fast, while MIUI, which is Cyanogen-based, has a bit more eye candy at the cost of performance. AOKP is very similar to CM9, except as far as I know the team has added many tweaks and features to make the experience more pleasant. Both are good choices if you're looking for ICS.
Hope this clears up some of the questions you may have
Thanks, Klin. That's exactly the sort of info I'm looking for.
and I'm running the USA 5.0, fgcu. It was either this or an ipad, and avoiding itunes was worth the extra $20 (ipods were on sale that week).
If you are looking to install a rom, I recommend what I have listed down below. The dev of the rom is currently updating it to 2.3.6 and I can't wait for it. It will deffinitely fix the wifi drop bug and a slightly better Gingerbread version. You do need to install a custom rom though and the one below is also a good one too.
Sent from my GenericGinger ROM + Entropy512 Kernal Samsung Galaxy Player 5 U.S. using xda app-developers app
This was my rom of choice back when I was running GB. In my opinion it is the most stable rom available for the Player 5.0. This rom is pretty fast and light as it is based on a stock GB rom.
I would also recommend this rom as it is also very stable.
For general use I would say use GB as everything works, but you can also get ICS roms if you want but all of the ICS roms in the development section have pretty major issues e.g. the camera does not work. Take a look in the development section and read the user comments/reviews/bug reports
Hi all,
I'm sort of new here, so I hope I'm abiding by all the rules... I believe I am :angel:
I've only recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S3 (international) and have been using Omega for a while now and I'm running 33.3 atm. So not the one based on CM10, but the one based on the stock rom.
I've now reached a point where I'm feeling that I've been there and done that. So I'd like to try a new fresh solution. I've been looking at CM10 and ParanoidAndroid, as these seem to have the largest user base, based on the number of posts here in XDA Developers forums in their threads. However I'm unsure if either of these are right for me.
I believe I read about CM10 having added a feature where you inside the OS could search for and download new versions directly on the phone, like you can with new software on iOS. Is this possible on both CM10 and ParanoidAndroid?
I'm looking for something that is both rock stable and yet constantly adds new gizmos and features, so I have something to play with. I'd like for it to be very easy for me to upgrade to newer versions. On Omega you downloaded via torrents, transferred to the SD card and then just rebooted into CWM and installed from zip. It automatically wiped cache, dalvik and such. So you didn't really have to do much yourself. But if CM10 could do it evern better and also download directly to the Phone, then that's a big plus for me.
I'm also a bit curious about why people change so much stuff on their phones. I often hear people talk about different kernels. From what I understand the kernel is sort of the drivers that bridges the gap between the OS and the hardware. Why is this so important? On Omega the default seemed to work perfectly... so what do you actually get by swapping? if the answer is 0.5% extra batterylife, then that's just not enough for me.
Casper[DK] said:
rock stable.
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CM10 builds are nightlies, and PA is based off of CM10. So if you want rock stable - go stock
Casper[DK] said:
Hi all,
I'm sort of new here, so I hope I'm abiding by all the rules... I believe I am :angel:
I'm looking for something that is both rock stable and yet constantly adds new gizmos and features, so I have something to play with. I'd like for it to be very easy for me to upgrade to newer versions.
I'm also a bit curious about why people change so much stuff on their phones. I often hear people talk about different kernels. From what I understand the kernel is sort of the drivers that bridges the gap between the OS and the hardware. Why is this so important? .
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Well first of all, kernel is not only your "drivers". It manages your governors, your I/O schedulers, CPU freq etc. That means when you are flashing a new kernel you are either looking for some improvements in responsiveness of the device, deep-sleep state improvements, WiFi patches (muticast f.e.), modules (like mali gpu), ko's (lets say for xbox controller or openvpn support), better RAM management OR you simply wanna sound smart to your friends :cyclops:
There are couple of articles you should take a look by droidphile, first one is Kernel Stuff and the second one is Governors, Modules, etc
Regarding the ROM, it pretty much depends on what you would like to do with it. If you wanna have working radio, call recording, "smart stay" and other things which are specific to TW based ROM's than you should stick with Samsung TW based ones.
CM is awesome! Very clean and nice experience. Couple of glitches here and there but no deal breaker.
PA is my daily driver. I'm very happy with it and I can't recommend enough. Highly customizable, tons of options, custom led lights, different DPI settings for each app, different layouts, on screen nav bar so on and so forth.
Although PA is based off of CM they are now migrating to AOSP. The main difference between them is code bloat. CM has own settings and codes to support them, which makes it a little bit slower than AOSP but that doesn't mean its worst.
You should start experimenting and see for yourself. XDA is full of information and although the search function is not working for the moment it will work and you can find all your answers.
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Well first of all, kernel is not only your "drivers". It manages your governors, your I/O schedulers, CPU freq etc. That means when you are flashing a new kernel you are either looking for some improvements in responsiveness of the device, deep-sleep state improvements, WiFi patches (muticast f.e.), modules (like mali gpu), ko's (lets say for xbox controller or openvpn support), better RAM management OR you simply wanna sound smart to your friends :cyclops:
There are couple of articles you should take a look by droidphile, first one is Kernel Stuff and the second one is Governors, Modules, etc
Regarding the ROM, it pretty much depends on what you would like to do with it. If you wanna have working radio, call recording, "smart stay" and other things which are specific to TW based ROM's than you should stick with Samsung TW based ones.
CM is awesome! Very clean and nice experience. Couple of glitches here and there but no deal breaker.
PA is my daily driver. I'm very happy with it and I can't recommend enough. Highly customizable, tons of options, custom led lights, different DPI settings for each app, different layouts, on screen nav bar so on and so forth.
Although PA is based off of CM they are now migrating to AOSP. The main difference between them is code bloat. CM has own settings and codes to support them, which makes it a little bit slower than AOSP but that doesn't mean its worst.
You should start experimenting and see for yourself. XDA is full of information and although the search function is not working for the moment it will work and you can find all your answers.
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Thanks a lot for your answer, I greatly appreciate it
This is a followup to this thread
3.0 ROMS
Now that you have ROOT and a CUSTOM recovery, you might want to install a new ROM. And there are truly a lot of ROMs to choose from, so which should you pick? While there is no definite guide to what's best, this will give a brief explanation of what you can expect from the various ROMS.
An important thing to note, is that your battery life won't magically improve 50% by flashing a custom rom. While it might improve you should compare it to what you have now, and not the results other people may get.
3.1 Stock Based ROMs
These ROMS are based on the stock User Interface (UI) that came with your phone. Many of these ROMs do not have useless apps pre-installed and might have a feature or two added to them, like the split window.
These ROMs usually have very good stability, are fast and have good battery life. Search around in the G2 Android Development section and follow the instructions.
3.2 Flex Based ROMs
Flex based ROMs are quite similar to stock based ROMs - except the User Interface is black. They are stable, fast and have good battery life. All of the flex based ROMs include split window and the ability to hide the navigation bar in certain apps.
3.3 G2 PRO based ROMs
These ROMS are less common and very similar to the G2 stock roms in terms of looks, stability and performance. The most unique feature of these kind of roms is that it allows you to get a "mini-view" by sliding over the navigation bar. These ROMs also include split window and the ability to hide the navigation bar in certain apps.
3.4 G3 Based ROMs
These ROMs are often the most-sought-for ROMs as they have a nice, modern Flat UI and tinted status bar that changes in accordance with the color of the action bar of the application. Many find it the most visually pleasing ROM, but it's also a bit more demanding in terms of hardware resources. They commonly have good stability, good performance and battery life on par with stock, maybe a little less.
4.0 AOSP ROMs
AOSP ROMs are for the Feinschmeckers of Android and do like the AOSP look. AOSP ROMs are commonly less rich in features, but offer an unmatched smoothness and speed. Unfortunately, since the LG Camera sources are closed source, the Camera performance on AOSP is subpar to the that on stock LG ROMS.
Please note that STOCK Kernels only WORK with G2 and G3 based ROMS and do NOT work with AOSP roms
AOSP kernels DO NOT WORK WITH STOCK LG ROMS
Hi, I'm wondering which rom you suggest I flash to my nexus 4 device. Paranoid android, or Cyanogenmod?
What I care most about is, battery life and performance. I don't really care about customization.
Which one is better in your opinion? :]
Thank you so much!
OathYvne said:
Hi, I'm wondering which rom you suggest I flash to my nexus 4 device. Paranoid android, or Cyanogenmod?
What I care most about is, battery life and performance. I don't really care about customization.
Which one is better in your opinion? :]
Thank you so much!
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CM12 has a priceless feature of privacy, they perform more or less the same.. Take a look at custom kernels for your device - as those will give you best battery, performance or both - depending on what you need.
I'm personally using CM. Not sure about which one performs better, but I like cm because it gives me the features I want, without cluttering the ROM with features I'll never use. PA and other ROMs are based of cm, so they normally have more stuff than cm, and it just ends up getting annoying. With cm, most of the options are set good to go, so u just need to change a few, like stock, but with a few very unobtrusive additions that are integrated into the system really good. Take for example, root. It's part of privacy guard instead of superuser, which is integrated very well into the os. I haven't really used PA, so I suggest you try both and come to your own conclusion.
If you just want performance, then I'd go with a close to aosp rom.
Are there currently oxygen os based roms available, or are developers working on these particular rom?
I see a lot of ported roms and cm based roms. The devices I used to have, would usually have a custom stock rom available. In which the stock rom would be more smooth and efficient. I personally like oos, I don't notice any bugs etc. But if it could be even better and efficient, it would be great.
Anyone knows if this is a work in progress?
++ I would appreciate this too, instead of spending time on something that takes time and energy why not optimize an already good stable product? I have very basic knowledge about how to make/cook/modify android system so I dont think im able to start a project by my self but i can give my time and phone for tests ^_^
p.s. something like arhd for htc devices, they do very good job indeed
Hydrogen fitd the bill for most. Might as well take it and modify it for yourself. I don't see an Oxygen based ROM as its already pretty minimal
I hope someone develop an oos based rom too.... with full Layers theme support...
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++ I would appreciate this too, instead of spending time on something that takes time and energy why not optimize an already good stable product? I have very basic knowledge about how to make/cook/modify android system so I dont think im able to start a project by my self but i can give my time and phone for tests ^_^
p.s. something like arhd for htc devices, they do very good job indeed
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Yes indeed something like arhd or sensation rom and other sort optimized stock rom. @RJDTWO It isn't just minimalising and debloating by app removal. It's more something like stock root and busybox, deodexed, gpu rendering, zip aligned, ext4, init.d permissions, ram speed and mounting tweaks etc.
Perhaps I will work on it, with a bit of study and spare time
Somebody or Anybody ???
I just bought an OPX second-hand from selling my titan . Is there any rom based on stock like the TurboROM for titan by @Vidhanth ??
mOOS is based on OOS just do a search for it in the forums