Paranoid Android vs. CyanogenMod - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm wondering which rom you suggest I flash to my nexus 4 device. Paranoid android, or Cyanogenmod?
What I care most about is, battery life and performance. I don't really care about customization.
Which one is better in your opinion? :]
Thank you so much!

OathYvne said:
Hi, I'm wondering which rom you suggest I flash to my nexus 4 device. Paranoid android, or Cyanogenmod?
What I care most about is, battery life and performance. I don't really care about customization.
Which one is better in your opinion? :]
Thank you so much!
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CM12 has a priceless feature of privacy, they perform more or less the same.. Take a look at custom kernels for your device - as those will give you best battery, performance or both - depending on what you need.

I'm personally using CM. Not sure about which one performs better, but I like cm because it gives me the features I want, without cluttering the ROM with features I'll never use. PA and other ROMs are based of cm, so they normally have more stuff than cm, and it just ends up getting annoying. With cm, most of the options are set good to go, so u just need to change a few, like stock, but with a few very unobtrusive additions that are integrated into the system really good. Take for example, root. It's part of privacy guard instead of superuser, which is integrated very well into the os. I haven't really used PA, so I suggest you try both and come to your own conclusion.
If you just want performance, then I'd go with a close to aosp rom.

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Which ROM for which purpose?

Which roms (or rom families, really) are best for which purposes? I know some are designed to be fast and lightweight, while others go for the richest user experience, or other specialized purpose/situation.
My question is how can I find out the aim of the various roms?
The rom threads focus mostly on features provided and what rom family (if any) they based it on. Since I have no idea the aim of the original rom family (aokp, cm, miui, etc.) it's hard to decide which one is right for me.
Which player do you have?
dstarfire said:
Which roms (or rom families, really) are best for which purposes? I know some are designed to be fast and lightweight, while others go for the richest user experience, or other specialized purpose/situation.
My question is how can I find out the aim of the various roms?
The rom threads focus mostly on features provided and what rom family (if any) they based it on. Since I have no idea the aim of the original rom family (aokp, cm, miui, etc.) it's hard to decide which one is right for me.
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Stock ROMs, which most of the customs ROMs out there are based on, are probably the most stable but the performance won't be as good.
CM7 and CM9 are slim and super fast, while MIUI, which is Cyanogen-based, has a bit more eye candy at the cost of performance. AOKP is very similar to CM9, except as far as I know the team has added many tweaks and features to make the experience more pleasant. Both are good choices if you're looking for ICS.
Hope this clears up some of the questions you may have
Thanks, Klin. That's exactly the sort of info I'm looking for.
and I'm running the USA 5.0, fgcu. It was either this or an ipad, and avoiding itunes was worth the extra $20 (ipods were on sale that week).
If you are looking to install a rom, I recommend what I have listed down below. The dev of the rom is currently updating it to 2.3.6 and I can't wait for it. It will deffinitely fix the wifi drop bug and a slightly better Gingerbread version. You do need to install a custom rom though and the one below is also a good one too.
Sent from my GenericGinger ROM + Entropy512 Kernal Samsung Galaxy Player 5 U.S. using xda app-developers app
This was my rom of choice back when I was running GB. In my opinion it is the most stable rom available for the Player 5.0. This rom is pretty fast and light as it is based on a stock GB rom.
I would also recommend this rom as it is also very stable.
For general use I would say use GB as everything works, but you can also get ICS roms if you want but all of the ICS roms in the development section have pretty major issues e.g. the camera does not work. Take a look in the development section and read the user comments/reviews/bug reports

Is it worth to use CM on our S3?

Hey guys,
since i'm an owner of an S3 i tried a LOT of CM rom's.
There a lot i like, but sometimes it feels a bit like a "different" phone, e.g. some features are missing etc.
So, im thinking about to switch to an modded stock rom for a great performance and huge batterylife..
Or is CM the best way for performance and battery?
thanks guys.
kewkie said:
Hey guys,
since i'm an owner of an S3 i tried a LOT of CM rom's.
There a lot i like, but sometimes it feels a bit like a "different" phone, e.g. some features are missing etc.
So, im thinking about to switch to an modded stock rom for a great performance and huge batterylife..
Or is CM the best way for performance and battery?
thanks guys.
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Stock touchwiz roms generally have better battery performance, even with custom kernels in my opinion. Its all about how you want it to look, feel, perform and last but you cannot have 100% on all, so you have to mke sacrifices for the features that mean most to you. There is no "Best ROM"
Yeah i know that there's no "best ROM"
I'm currently not sure.. CM or a modified stock ROM, both have their advantages i know, but i feel that the CM rom's having a higher battery drain... but i dont know about the performance on stock i guess CM is a bit better on the performance?!
kewkie said:
Yeah i know that there's no "best ROM"
I'm currently not sure.. CM or a modified stock ROM, both have their advantages i know, but i feel that the CM rom's having a higher battery drain... but i dont know about the performance on stock i guess CM is a bit better on the performance?!
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I think its subjective but I prefer AOSP for performance
rootSU said:
I think its subjective but I prefer AOSP for performance
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Just flashed rootbox... well, i dont like the iconcolors and the batterycolors are a bit different :/
The icons are standard jellybean blue but you can change them to what you want in hybrid settings
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
it feels a bit brighter on the wifi/signal and darker on the battery... but i cant change the battery colors?!
ask in the RootBox support thread
Rootbox settings > PAC battery colours
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Which ROM do you guys recommend?

So... First of all, I'm not asking for the best ROM.
At the moment, I'm using ArchiDroid v2.5.2 on my i9300, and it's fast, but... Random reboots, and the camera quality it's not the same as in the 4.3 ROM's.
What I want is a ROM with no random reboots, with the best camera quality and of course, as fast as AOSP or even faster
So... Which ROMs (and kernel) do you guys recommend?
I'm tired of switching between 4.4.x ROMs, all of them have bugs. The Note2 ports are laggy (even though everybody is saying that these ROMs are smooth as butter) and AOSP have the problems that I've mentioned before.
Help me, please
Best/Recommend Roms/kernels threads are not allowed on XDA, try them yourself and decide.
If I were to recommend you I would say ArchiDroid or NeatRom
Sent from my GT-I9300 powered by ArchiDroid+ArchiKernel
gabyif said:
Best/Recommend Roms/kernels threads are not allowed on XDA, try them yourself and decide.
If I were to recommend you I would say ArchiDroid or NeatRom
Sent from my GT-I9300 powered by ArchiDroid+ArchiKernel
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Yes, I know that. But there are SO many ROMs and I've tried lots of them, and none of them are "perfect".
ArchiDroid or NeatROM? JellyBean versions? I've tried both, but the KK version.
emanuelparedes said:
Yes, I know that. But there are SO many ROMs and I've tried lots of them, and none of them are "perfect".
ArchiDroid or NeatROM? JellyBean versions? I've tried both, but the KK version.
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Yes,Jb versions.
There are no such thing as perfect,you need to make sacrifice
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andjeomilosrdja said:
Yes,Jb versions.
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I'm going to try ArchiDroid. Is it based on Stock ROM or AOSP?
emanuelparedes said:
I'm going to try ArchiDroid. Is it based on Stock ROM or AOSP?
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Stock JB
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Try Imperium KK: stable, smooth and pretty fast! This ROM is based on Note2 porting developed by JustArchi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-t2842856
broken920 said:
Try Imperium KK: stable, smooth and pretty fast! This ROM is based on Note2 porting developed by JustArchi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-t2842856
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Thanks for the suggestion. But I've read the comments and "everybody" was talking about FC and bugs.
Try Imperium 29 based on 4.3 stock deodexed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-imperium-v26-0-v13-6-t2135852
broken920 said:
Try Imperium 29 based on 4.3 stock deodexed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-imperium-v26-0-v13-6-t2135852
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First I will flash ArchiDroid V1.7.18 and if I don't like it, I'll flash this one. Thanks!
Stock debloated
I would use the stock Android 4.3, root it and than remove all the Bloatware from Samsung, install Googy Max2 and you got a pretty fast phone
Abort the Samsung laggy and almost useless world, choose AOSP roms.
I can propose you the only AOSP rom tried: CyanogenMod 11.
Download the latest M release (more stable than nightlies).
Note that there are some minor bugs, a 4.4 "perfect" system for S3 actually doesn't exist.
Then... the better kernel is BOEFFLA, useless to say [emoji6]
Download the related app (the latest BOEFFLA Config-v2 apk), choose zzmove or pegasusqplus as governor, while as scheduler choose sio.
To boost your phone, have fun with all the kernel parameters, CyanogenMod is considered the better rom, all other AOSP roms are based on CM source code, useless to change os.
broken920 said:
Try Imperium 29 based on 4.3 stock deodexed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-imperium-v26-0-v13-6-t2135852
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Simone98RC said:
Abort the Samsung laggy and almost useless world, choose AOSP roms.
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A wildly sweeping and inaccurate statement if ever there was one.
There are some exceptional stock based ROMS out there, with very good performance, good battery life and stock features that you don't get in AOSP which many people like to have (also from what i've seen, the stock Camera app gives better pictures too)
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A wildly sweeping and inaccurate statement if ever there was one.
There are some exceptional stock based ROMS out there, with very good performance, good battery life and stock features that you don't get in AOSP which many people like to have (also from what i've seen, the stock Camera app gives better pictures too)
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I tried Android Revolution HD: at first was moving better than stock rom, but when I began to use hardly my device... too many lags and terrible slowdowns.
Caused mainly by the unremovable TouchWiz.
Using another launcher, the heavy TouchWiz works ever, for different reasons than the simple use of launcher.
You can remove all the bloatware, make lots of optimizations... but TouchWiz will "eat" your RAM (only 1 GB on I9300 and lots of its variants) and never you'll be able to quietly use so many apps as in AOSP roms.
On CyanogenMod, Trebuchet can be completely replaced by other launchers, unthinkable thing on a Samsung rom.
Simone98RC said:
I tried Android Revolution HD: at first was moving better than stock rom, but when I began to use hardly my device... too many lags and terrible slowdowns.
Caused mainly by the unremovable TouchWiz.
Using another launcher, the heavy TouchWiz works ever, for different reasons than the simple use of launcher.
You can remove all the bloatware, make lots of optimizations... but TouchWiz will "eat" your RAM (only 1 GB on I9300 and lots of its variants) and never you'll be able to quietly use so many apps as in AOSP roms.
On CyanogenMod, Trebuchet can be completely replaced by other launchers, unthinkable thing on a Samsung rom.
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You tried one other stock based ROM and made your conclusion from that alone?
Each to their own, but I've used enough versions of CM on enough devices over the years to know the pros and cons, and personally on the S3 I can get a most satisfactory level of performance and battery life from a stock derived ROM whilst not losing any of the additional functions.
hundred_miles_high said:
You tried one other stock based ROM and made your conclusion from that alone?
Each to their own, but I've used enough versions of CM on enough devices over the years to know the pros and cons, and personally on the S3 I can get a most satisfactory level of performance and battery life from a stock derived ROM whilst not losing any of the additional functions.
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A Samsung rom is useful only for a better compatibility with Samsung devices and the 2-way call recording support.
Simone98RC said:
A Samsung rom is useful only for a better compatibility with Samsung devices and the 2-way call recording support.
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Enough said, this is going off-topic and is not helpful to the OP, and as we both agree on your statement of 'A Samsung rom is useful for better compatibility' that's reason enough on it's own to recommend a stock derived ROM like Imperium as it will address the OP's original request of:
emanuelparedes said:
What I want is a ROM with no random reboots, with the best camera quality
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hundred_miles_high said:
Enough said, this is going off-topic and is not helpful to the OP, and as we both agree on your statement of 'A Samsung rom is useful for better compatibility' that's reason enough on it's own to recommend a stock derived ROM like Imperium as it will address the OP's original request of (blablabla)
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Totally agree with the first thing, then you told a bull****, you based your "fictitious reason" on a my partial citation at your leisure.
To prevent misconceptions and "abuse" of what I said in the topic, @hundred_miles_high forget to explain that according to me, the stock roms "compatibility" is limited only to Samsung devices.
With BubbleUPnP and similar (you should know them), stock roms become completely useless... or you need the 2-way call recording? [emoji6]
OP dislikes (as everyone) forced reboots, and need a good camera quality. If the suggested rom is poorer in any other term respect to AOSP systems, it doesn't matter.
Is this your reasoning?
With CyanogenMod 11, the terrible 10.2 camera experience was aborted.
Stability is guaranteed, also if the releases are snapshots, more than 6 months of developing.
Simone98RC said:
Totally agree with the first thing, then you told a bull****, you based your "fictitious reason" on a my partial citation at your leisure.
To prevent misconceptions and "abuse" of what I said in the topic, @hundred_miles_high forget to explain that according to me, the stock roms "compatibility" is limited only to Samsung devices.
With BubbleUPnP and similar (you should know them), stock roms become completely useless... or you need the 2-way call recording? [emoji6]
OP dislikes (as everyone) forced reboots, and need a good camera quality. If the suggested rom is poorer in any other term respect to AOSP systems, it doesn't matter.
Is this your reasoning?
With CyanogenMod 11, the terrible 10.2 camera experience was aborted.
Stability is guaranteed, also if the releases are snapshots, more than 6 months of developing.
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Why would a Samsung ROM be compatible with anything other than a Samsung phone? This is after all the SAMSUNG S3 forum isn't it, thought it would be pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain the context it was used in.
I don't understand your ramblings about BubbleUPNP but Bubble and Sempervid links work fine on my stock derived ROM - I use them regularly with youtube/tubemate , streaming web content and media on my other devices to play direct to my TV (or xbox or nexus 7 for that matter) through my S3.
Ran out of interest with rest of your post due to your rudeness, but maybe you should check the CM11 M9 thread in regard to complaints of poor sound quality in the camera app...........
hundred_miles_high said:
Enough said, this is going off-topic and is not helpful to the OP, and as we both agree on your statement of 'A Samsung rom is useful for better compatibility'
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Yes, I was a bit hard in my answer, because you hurted me with your presumption and falsity to report properly my citation.
"This is after all the Samsung S3 forum"
With this stupid aforism you have damned lots of users who run a different rom.
I propose you to browse with brain (I dubt you know how use it, almost in this context) any S3 support forum, and see how many people use, speak and receive support about CyanogenMod, SlimKat, PacRom, etc.
And you are the first user who compare, even consider better a stock rom than AOSP... in terms of performance.
I hope you are joking.
"Ran out (...) Samsung devices"
You won't recognize the mistake (if not intentional) when you reported partially my famouscited my famous citation.
The truth is that you braved me since replying my first post: this is a topic where OP required "suggestions" (do you know this term?) from each user, not debates, nor topic wars.
Reread the topic, reflect about and get out, you told enough.

Custom roms in general

I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
saurabh40629 said:
AOSP is pure android and CM is some handy features included in AOSP. I personally prefer CM over AOSP because of this. For instance, quick drawer swipe and clear all in recent buttons. So basically their is not much difference but you can choose not to use any of these features in CM . I don't use pie control. Theme usage is upto you. Though black themes save battery and sometimes makes look better when you are bored with stock look. Toggles again are quite good to use. If you don't want to use a toggle, you can remove it. But I like sync, LTE selector and IME selector toggle.
Once you use CM, it's little hard to go back to vanilla android.
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That is exactly what I was curious about. I see that your android experience as far as custom roms and features goes differs far from mine. I used to install custom roms when i bought my first android smartphone (i9100). tried out almost every rom that was available at the time... from CM to AOKP, Paranoid Android and many others. I now own Oneplus x and had just yesterday installed AOSParadox. my experience with it for now is that it is fluid and seems stable enough for daily use. the only thing I miss is tristate keys. CM13.1 in retrospect had some bugs with the flashlight and with google now(home button)... but maybe it was fixed in the meantime. sudamod, resurrection remix, mokee, aicp where exacly what I wrote about and had too many features that for me are not that useful as a user.
The main reason for writing my post was because I saw a lot of users here and on oneplus forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
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Don't get me wrong... Diversity is great... But at the same time realize that we had a CM tree long before the recent CAF AOSP tree came around. I don't think you're going to find many ROMs that don't use it as a base and as far as AOSP goes, we have AOSParadox which is a CAF optimised AOSP ROM. I believe @OldDroid has something in store as well.
As for CM being bloated, I can see where an experienced user would complain. At the sane time they are useful features.
If anything, we need more kernels. Despair for instance, hasn't had any commits for at least a month
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That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
s3r3tin said:
That was one of the reasons why I have decided to write my post.
I saw a lot of users here and on other forums requesting an 6.0.1 AOSP rom.
Some of them where more specific and wanted to find roms that are not CM based.
Even as far as I know when a dev is listing bugs those are bugs that come with CM base itself (mostly wifi, bluetooth, camera bugs).
I now own Oneplus X. One thing I found interesting was that when using stock oxygenos my gaming experience was that the games where lagging a bit.
When I flashed a custom rom and went to settings - battery - battery mode and set it to performance all the games run just fine.
Since you mentioned that we need more kernels... do you thing that gaming performance or performance in general could benefit from custom kernels and what features would you use (and not) in that kernel.
Thank you for your reply and for your time.
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I believe that both could easily see a boost. Take Boeffla for instance. Makes the device feel an entire tier or two higher in performance then it is with just the stock kernel. As for what I'd like to see INA kernel, here's a list
1. HID Keyboard and CDROM support
2. F2FS support for cache
3. A CAF base
4. Unlocked voltage and clock speed
5. 3.10 instead of 3.4
6. CM 13 support
That's what comes to mind. Boeffla does most things for me and battery life is great but it lacks CM support. AK is pretty awesome in terms of performance enhancements, Franco was amazing back when I used it (last I checked you'd edit a file for configuration versus using an auditor), and Despair is really great
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Oh and something built with the Sabermod toolchain would be pretty swell.
s3r3tin said:
I have some thoughts about custom roms in general.
Wanted to know if I'm alone in this or am I missing something.
I'm an android user for a long time and like to tinker with custom roms.
Reading a lot of posts on XDA I came to a conclusion that a large amount of you prefer AOSP build roms rather then CM.
I share the same opinion.
I don't like pie controls, heavy themes, 44 toggle buttons, list view animations ect....
I like roms that are close to stock android as possible and from your posts many of you do, too.
I appreciate all the work devs are doing for the community....
but would like to see more custom roms that are AOSP based and close to stock rather then having a lot of (for me at least) unnecessary features.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Thank you in advance.
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You see, the thing with custom roms is that you just use what's available. It is difficult to put request in the open.
For instance I like custom stock roms, which totally isn't available. But I'm not in the position to ask for this. The only thing we can do (as non developers) is to support this particular scene, if one day a dev cooks one up. Which for aosp already has been done.
So go ahead and install and try the few aosp and participate with this community, to make better aosp roms. Which eventually will result in more aosp roms.

Miui vs custom rom

Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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There are a lots of benefits of using custom ROM over stock one. Currently I'm using Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 on my rn4. It's fully stable. You can try it yourself.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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For best stability bro, go forward non other than MIUI
Clearly, MIUI are made only for Mi phones, designed to be well..perfectly stable. Now others might against this lol.
Custom roms are stable too, yet miui are far more than that.
Honestly, I see no benefits using stock MIUI against stock rom (or vice versa).
They're just practically the same, only differ in some minimal undistinguishable matters.
Moreover, it the end, just a personal cup of tea.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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bro i have tried ressurection remix, lineage os. Only benefit i see in using custom rom is slightly better performance than miui(and that also you will realise after playing very heavy games otherwise it is ignorable), in terms of features manual customisation is more in custom rom(most in ressurection remix)but I still very much prefer customisation through themes in miui(because i am an anime fan and are tons of attractive anime themes in chinese miui theme store). in terms of stability and battery life i didn't nltice much change(maybe slightly better bettery life in custom rom). But overall i greatly prefer miui because it has much more user friendly feachures than custom rom(which you will soon realise after using custom rom) and because of its attractive themes(mostly anime based).
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bro i have tried ressurection remix, lineage os. Only benefit i see in using custom rom is slightly better performance than miui(and that also you will realise after playing very heavy games otherwise it is ignorable), in terms of features manual customisation is more in custom rom(most in ressurection remix)but I still very much prefer customisation through themes in miui(because i am an anime fan and are tons of attractive anime themes in chinese miui theme store). in terms of stability and battery life i didn't nltice much change(maybe slightly better bettery life in custom rom). But overall i greatly prefer miui because it has much more user friendly feachures than custom rom(which you will soon realise after using custom rom) and because of its attractive themes(mostly anime based).
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It's really nice do read someone opinion based on experience with custom ROMs. I bet that battery performance on custom ROM with custom kernel should be better but in that case...
I'm currenty running beta MIUI 9 and I really enjoy system because I migrated from iOS and if there is no point to move to custom ROM I am fine with it.
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... but the device is working nicely, my concern is how stable and smooth are custom roms?
i see there are couple of popular ones, can you please tell me is there any real benefit using custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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@Boomshiva you said "better memory management". I 'm trying RR rom but I don't see any difference (In the best case 1.841 MB available on my 4GB Ram memory). What kernel could we use?
Waitamin said:
@Boomshiva you said "better memory management". I 'm trying RR rom but I don't see any difference (In the best case 1.841 MB available on my 4GB Ram memory). What kernel could we use?
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By better management i mean the multi tasking part . Apps remains in memory . But miui is very aggressive when it comes to memory .
And why do you care for ram ? Free ram is a waste ram . You should care if you phone struggles with common apps . And you know right android is smart enough to handle this memory thing thank you
Custom roms can give you more space and possibilities
Boomshiva said:
I am using custom roms from a long time ,so i very much used to the looks of customs roms . Then I got mido and miui was the rom installed in that ,i didn't liked it as i felt it lacks the amount of customization and features i needed . I didnt even like the interface of miui and didn't even find it user - friendly ( its user friendly for many users ) . So definitely it was not perfect to me . And updates were very late ( all oems have this issue regarding pushing new updates ) so i moved to custom roms .
If you say what are the benefit for custom rom
1) regular updates
2) tons of customization
3) better memory management ( it can be achieved on miui using custom kernel too )
:silly: that's it from my side then . Thank you
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What custom ROM and kernel suits best for normal daily use - I mean internet + facebook/messenger only I think ?
gedggd said:
Hello all good people
Just got my hands on Redmi note 4, cool device, but im not that into MIUI... custom rom vs stock miui in battery life, performance.. and witch one is the most stable.
Thank you!
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MIUI works really well, there's no denying that. I installed xiaomi eu rom a little while back and it worked really well, smooth fast and battery back seemed good. Despite all that, MIUI feels very claustrophobic when you try to navigate through the phone. Notifications are a mess. Everything seems to be crammed into that notification shade.
Needless to say, my sojourn did not last long.
Custom roms give you the freedom to choose from a variety of customisations to stock to barebones. They are light, fast and easy to work with. Only drawback is that sometimes things break in custom roms. You need to have the willingness to work around it when that happens. And there will be bugs, known and unknown both.
Battery life should not be a concern unless there is an unprecedentedly high drainage. People get unusually high SOT by limiting usage to WiFi only and staying on 2G. But in real world, with 2 Sims, 1 LTE and other 3G, 6-7 hrs SOT seems like a good bet.
Performance is at par for all. Stability may be here and there for some roms. The more customisations there are, more are the chances for things to break. You can use less customisation roms, my recommendation would be slim, mainstage os & aosp-caf. For customisations, you can pick any of the rest.
Personally I use from among the three, mainstage being the most favorite. My experience has been that idle drain is really low in slim and mainstage. Rest you will have to use them to pick your go-to roms.
And yes, camera is not the best feature of custom roms. :laugh:
Thank you all, great discussion yes miui 8 is pretty cool in its own way, but i think i will explore more stock like android experience and then miui 9
gedggd said:
Thank you all, great discussion yes miui 8 is pretty cool in its own way, but i think i will explore more stock like android experience and then miui 9
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I think I should just add this point (whether it is a small or big point depends on your own perspective on your own privacy). The point is that one should be very careful about ROMs with embedded "dial home" features. Call me paranoid if you want, but, for me, this means that, for as long as there are good custom AOSP/LOS/CAF ROMs, MIUI is a non-starter.
For further information, read the "Skinny" threads on the Redmi Note 2 forums.
These devices are very competitively priced, and so are great buys - but the very first action should be to change the ROM from MIUI.
Miss those days when I was on the HTC Desire and @LeeDroid customized sense so much that it was perfect and very nice for those days.
I miss a good miui rom with stock notification icons and a working Google smartlock.
There are so much roms for mido but most of the roms is all of the same in performance and design.
We got now substratum but that is just layers not a redesign of some system apps. Like I mentioned before.
Why are there no more custom miui roms?
Is it not possible for developers to enable Google smart lock? Or change the statusbar stock notifications icons time right side?
What is the hold up here?
Yea we got xiaomi EU and few mods but nothing that spectacular.
BTW this is no offense to all those devs workings on mido I just asked myself and this is my first xiaomi phone and on HTC, Samsung roms they are modding the **** out of the stock roms.
TBH at the end of the day you will go and use stock ROM so am now out of flashing custom ROM it's now boring stuff! I rather prefer modified stock ROM like miglobe.com xiaomi.eu multirom.me and what ever and I would love to try paranoid ROM once it becomes official cause official has more features. And most important it has a OFFICIAL TAG which do matter. And taking about custom ROM all are same with a slight or little change in name and features every second nerd or geek wants to be a developer. Overall I can say that it depends upon your requirements to go or not to go. Personally if you hate miui I Mean the UI (I hate it too) than you should go with custom Rom and if you want something new and more scope of customisation. Else if you don't give a **** all you want is a phone for face book Twitter and Instagram and WhatsApp and pornhub.com then stock is for u
I have been using various custom roms on my phones for atleast 5 years. One the common hate items for custom ROM is the inferior battery backup when compared to stock ROM. My recent experience is on Asus Zenfone 2 Laser.
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
schlagg said:
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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Post of the day. :laugh:
schlagg said:
With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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This is precisely why I have looked in this thread... fyi... I never intended to use miui cloud service, it was only when I got a message stating 6gb of my personal photos had been upoloaded and that I needed more space!!! like wtf
so, yes I want all miui gone.. but I really like the second space, dont want to lose that, and like has been said, ignoring the miui bit it is a nice bit of software
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With custom Roms you get rid of MIUI.
Isn't that enough ??
And when I read that MIUI is more stable, I just want to laught a little ...
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+1 from me

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