I have a HTC one m8 now
The xda Forum of the m8 is very active and it´s possible to unlock every HTC with HTCs help.
I´m very interesstet in the new Lg g5 as my new device but i want to install custom roms and maybe other stuff, when i look in the forum of the v10 it looks not very good.
When i look in the Lg g4 forum the developer Support looks not bad.
So maybe someone can say something about the developer support of LG nowdays ?
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So maybe someone can say something about the developer support of LG nowdays ?
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I have the same question. After 4 years, the glass of my Galaxy Sii finally broke :crying: So I was looking at the S7 Edge to replace it, but here in Europe we get the Exynos version which is a no-go for custom ROMs. And because custom ROMs doubled the life of my Sii, I really want another phone that has good developer support.
There is of course the Nexus 6p, which seems to have a billion ROMs already. But I find it a bit large. The LG G5 looks great, with more memory and a faster chipset. Good developer support would be another bonus.
G3 onwards, nonexistent. G4 was lucky enough to have an unlocked boot loader for two versions of the phone (815/811), so it has a small development scene. The V10 however didn't receive the same treatment and is essentially dead in the water in regards to development. With LG's extremely vague stance of factory unlocking boot loaders and their extremely locked down phones the G5 might end up the same, only time will tell.
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G3 onwards, nonexistent. G4 was lucky enough to have an unlocked boot loader for two versions of the phone (815/811), so it has a small development scene. The V10 however didn't receive the same treatment and is essentially dead in the water in regards to development. With LG's extremely vague stance of factory unlocking boot loaders and their extremely locked down phones the G5 might end up the same, only time will tell.
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Sadly true.....
I have the G3 for almost 2 years now, luckily devs found a way to "bump" it allowing for root, custom recovery ...etc! thus a fair amount of action in development
Really interested in G4 H818P (dual sim) but since it's not among the models officially unlockable and none managed to hack it (despite somewhat hefty bounty) that renders it significantly unattractive.... some of just can't do stock
It's a shame LG has such none dev-friendly policy
It's been getting worse, just like Samsung. If you have a carrier-branded phone like Verizon, you can forget any real development.
It get worst by the release. As you have said, you took a look at the v10...that is a prime example of lg.
Looks like a no-go for me then....I was so sold on the G5...
Samsung S7 appears to be in bootloader lockdownville, ruling it out for me.
I'm now looking at the G5. If this also joins the town of locked bootloaders, I'll stick with my G4.
Then I'll perhaps jump off the original Jump ship, since I won't be upgrading that much, and go with squaretrade or similar, saving much need $ in the process.
In this case I will probably go for htc 10. I'm not in any hurry so we'll see.
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In this case I will probably go for htc 10. I'm not in any hurry so we'll see.
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Is HTC development still friendly these days? I remember you could officially unlock the bootloader on M7. How is it now? I like HTC phones too. Still use my M7.
A quick search indicates that unlocked A9 was bootloader unlockable and dev friendly. Looking like HTC 10 may be my next phone then.... I was so fascinated by G5. Darn! Some things are not meant to be.
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Is HTC development still friendly these days? I remember you could officially unlock the bootloader on M7. How is it now? I like HTC phones too. Still use my M7.
A quick search indicates that unlocked A9 was bootloader unlockable and dev friendly. Looking like HTC 10 may be my next phone then.... I was so fascinated by G5. Darn! Some things are not meant to be.
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Like I said I'm in no hurry by the time I end up getting the new phone the g5 will probably be doing just fine development wise. I love my lg nexus 5 so much I just might end up waiting for the next nexus supposedly by htc.
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In this case I will probably go for htc 10. I'm not in any hurry so we'll see.
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I think it will be not so easy. HTC will unlock the device bit remain S-on. So it must wait and pay for s-off (SunShine). Sony has also officianal unlock, but you lost the drm key forever (few sony app does not work) so you have to wait the unofficianal drm fix. Xiaomi has also locked bootloader, and the unlock not so simple. samsung locked the snapdragon and exynos has few difficulties. Who remain?Lg?Nexus?chinese phones?
Maybe the android developing will die?
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I think it will be not so easy. HTC will unlock the device bit remain S-on. So it must wait and pay for s-off (SunShine). Sony has also officianal unlock, but you lost the drm key forever (few sony app does not work) so you have to wait the unofficianal drm fix. Xiaomi has also locked bootloader, and the unlock not so simple. samsung locked the snapdragon and exynos has few difficulties. Who remain?Lg?Nexus?chinese phones?
Maybe the android developing will die?
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Man you've made your homework...
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G3 onwards, nonexistent. G4 was lucky enough to have an unlocked boot loader for two versions of the phone (815/811), so it has a small development scene. The V10 however didn't receive the same treatment and is essentially dead in the water in regards to development. With LG's extremely vague stance of factory unlocking boot loaders and their extremely locked down phones the G5 might end up the same, only time will tell.
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That will either make or break my purchase
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I think it will be not so easy. HTC will unlock the device bit remain S-on. So it must wait and pay for s-off (SunShine). Sony has also officianal unlock, but you lost the drm key forever (few sony app does not work) so you have to wait the unofficianal drm fix. Xiaomi has also locked bootloader, and the unlock not so simple. samsung locked the snapdragon and exynos has few difficulties. Who remain?Lg?Nexus?chinese phones?
Maybe the android developing will die?
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This really is not so far from the truth. When I bought a S4 (first android), it was a cinch manipulate it and it was an AT&T variant (the google play edition rom made it easy too). Then...G2, M8, N5, OPO, N6, G3, etc. ...I was hooked...this was easy, just watch the carrier variants and unlocking/rooting/rom'ing was easy street. What was an iPhone...why did I ever own one, etc. etc.
Well, 2014 started to suck and then 2015 REALLY sucked...the post quad core era zomg! Besides a N6p / MXPE...there is some really sucky quality about every other hackable android unit out there in many respects practically from 2015 (g4 - limited dev'ing if at all US domestic, m9 - hot (doomed) 810 but better control now, OPT - need drivers!, s6 - exynos so TW roms or bust).
Then we start 2016...S7 locked for Samsung Pay (for now?)...not a good start. I am an optimist and hope the G5 and the M10 are able to be unlocked and we can unleash the power of the SD 820. The era of stable octacore is here, hopefully our beloved devs can take full advantage of it!
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That will either make or break my purchase
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Yes. We will have to wait and see what time says will happen.
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Samsung S7 appears to be in bootloader lockdownville, ruling it out for me.
I'm now looking at the G5. If this also joins the town of locked bootloaders, I'll stick with my G4.
Then I'll perhaps jump off the original Jump ship, since I won't be upgrading that much, and go with squaretrade or similar, saving much need $ in the process.
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Of course you could wait for LG G6
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Hello all, I'm currently using a Nexus One on T-Mo but am probably going to jump back to Sprint here soon. I had been looking to get the Evo3D, but fear that it's going to be locked down as the Thuderbolt was. I understand you guy were able to gain root on the Thunderbolt recently, but only because you got an engineering something or other, I don't remember exactly. My question here is, what would the chances have been of the phone being rooted the normal brute force way. Would we have been looking at possibly months or more, or was it just a matter of days. I ask cause if the Evo3D is going to be locked down and may take months or more to crack, I may just go with the Nexus S for now.
Well it looks like HTCs phones are going to be locked up tight. Not really sure about the EVO3D but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a locked bootloader etc.
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Well it looks like HTCs phones are going to be locked up tight. Not really sure about the EVO3D but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a locked bootloader etc.
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Yeah... HTC makes me sad all day for locking their bootloaders, samsung is looking more and more attractive. Sammy's phones don't even put up a fight, sometimes getting root before they're even released to general public
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Yeah... HTC makes me sad all day for locking their bootloaders, samsung is looking more and more attractive. Sammy's phones don't even put up a fight, sometimes getting root before they're even released to general public
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Cause the TB wasn't rooted before it came out right?
Samsung is looking attractive just because they don't lock their bootloaders? What kind of logic is that? Look at the Galaxy series, those phones were crap, full of lag, horrible GPS, etc.
Yes and our GPS works flawlessly
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Yes and our GPS works flawlessly
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Mine sure does. A thousand times better than my Facinate did.
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Cause the TB wasn't rooted before it came out right?
Samsung is looking attractive just because they don't lock their bootloaders? What kind of logic is that? Look at the Galaxy series, those phones were crap, full of lag, horrible GPS, etc.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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I was just referring to the first "Galaxy" set that came out. The S 4G, S II, and their releases this year have been stellar. But neither of those are on VZW . I would snatch up the SII in a second if it was on VZW.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to buy a phone that's locked up tight. HTC better learn real quick that there are a lot of people like this. I was going to buy a honeycomb tablet if they came out with one because based on their phones I figured it would be pretty open. Now it looks like I'll have to go elsewhere. Maybe since a tablet won't be tied to a carrier they'll be more relaxed. I hope anyway...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to buy a phone that's locked up tight. HTC better learn real quick that there are a lot of people like this. I was going to buy a honeycomb tablet if they came out with one because based on their phones I figured it would be pretty open. Now it looks like I'll have to go elsewhere. Maybe since a tablet won't be tied to a carrier they'll be more relaxed. I hope anyway...
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I hear you. Some company will eventually embrace modders and devs, I just wanted it to be HTC. Oh well, sad day
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It seems we've gone a bit off topic. I have been reading all the comments and have learned that Sammy isn't doing what HTC is starting to do with locking their bootloaders, something I didn't know before this thread, good to know. But the question I presented hasn't really been answered yet. How long, rough gestimation, would it take to crack the bootloader of the new phones HTC is coming out with. Are we talking weeks or months or more. I know this a question that can't be easily answered with a specific answer, but I'm looking more for how likely they are to be cracked in a timely manner. I'm not a hacker, cracker or code breaker so I really don't even know where to begin with trying to answer this question, hence why I put it forth here, on the forum of a phone that was locked and got unlocked hoping a dev could give me some info on weather getting the forthcoming Evo3D is a good idea for someone who want's to root the phone. I am however leaning back towards the Nexus s 4G because of this thread, but since money won't allow that at the moment, I'm exploring my options until the time I can afford a new phone.
The thunderbolt was rooted becuase we reverted to an older leaked rom which allowed us to bypass the whole signed bootloader. (I think) You might want to look into the incredible s which was released several months ago and has yet to me cracked. The security measures taken to lock down the G2 are not the same as the ones used on newer HTC devices. I don't think we'll be seeing any permanent root access HTC in a long time. Months at the very least.
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The thunderbolt was rooted becuase we reverted to an older leaked rom which allowed us to bypass the whole signed bootloader. (I think) You might want to look into the incredible s which was released several months ago and has yet to me cracked. The security measures taken to lock down the G2 are not the same as the ones used on newer HTC devices. I don't think we'll be seeing any permanent root access HTC in a long time. Months at the very least.
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Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. Sad news indeed. I'm guessing the Nexus S 4G is where I'm headed then, unless a Galaxy S 2 is slated to come out on sprint anytime soon that is. I'd really like to get a root-able, dual core, high resolution, bad ass phone if I'm going to be upgrading from my N1.
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Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. Sad news indeed. I'm guessing the Nexus S 4G is where I'm headed then, unless a Galaxy S 2 is slated to come out on sprint anytime soon that is. I'd really like to get a root-able, dual core, high resolution, bad ass phone if I'm going to be upgrading from my N1.
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I've been reading around about this (disappointing) news of HTC's lockdown using signed bootloaders, etc. and from what I have read, it seems like the crackers have indicated they are going to have a helluva time. A few tweets from jcase's twiiter page (whose opinions I personally value, YMMV):
If you want root, don't buy an yet to be rooted phone
[email protected] signed recovery, signed kernel, signed hboot, and write protection. won't buy [email protected] devices like that
HTC now MORE dev unfriendly than Motorola.
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Looks pretty dreary for new HTC phones.
Droid, which has signed bootloader, is still locked, and it's pretty long on the market. It's a matter of years, if not eternity. It's f***ing hard to crack those keys.
What I don't understand is why HTC is doing this. You might think that it's the carriers pressuring them, but if Sammy, Sony Erricson, and Moto are or are soon going to be releasing phone without locked bootloaders, why does HTC feel the need to start now when they haven't in the past?
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What I don't understand is why HTC is doing this. You might think that it's the carriers pressuring them, but if Sammy, Sony Erricson, and Moto are or are soon going to be releasing phone without locked bootloaders, why does HTC feel the need to start now when they haven't in the past?
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It's a pretty simple answer. Money.
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It's a pretty simple answer. Money.
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How does a locked bootloader equal money?
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How does a locked bootloader equal money?
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Easy, keeps people using htc products, and makes us pay for tethering. Also makes sure that they know what ruu you're using.... Sucks
Edit: or whatever manufacturer made your device
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Easy, keeps people using htc products
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How
and makes us pay for tethering.
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The carriers have already shown that they can detect unofficial tethering
Also makes sure that they know what ruu you're using
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Why does it matter?
I'm trying to decided between the Galaxy Nexus and the Droid 4.
I'm assuming Droid4 and RAZR will have the same exact hardware and therefore be pretty much interchangeable ROM wise. Is this correct?
If that is the case I'm heavily leaning toward the Droid 4 but it depends on 2 things.
1. With the "removable back", the battery being accessible without removing glued on case components(just screws)
2. The developer support for the RAZR/Droid4 being sizable despite the locked bootloader.
Thoughts?
The developer support is still growing and I think we will be satisfied in the end. But is not a nexus though.
There are some things happening already, for example someone have been able too boot ICS.
Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
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This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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Likely? Probably not, but it might be possible for a dev to reverse engineer or figure it out...
Lots of IFs, but with Safestrap out now and devs working on roms, after we get FXZ or SBF, we will have a great device with lots of options for ROMs.
1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
3. In terms of user base, the one thing that really helped the Razr was the 1 cent Amazon Wireless deal. It was the top phone available on Verizon at the time, so I'm sure that built a good base of users- but maybe not the type of users who develop ROMs.
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1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
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The Droid 4, there is some question as to whether the phone will have a removable battery or not.
The test units were not sent with the case removal tool that was seen on the spec sheet that was released today.
I haven't seen a new confirmation on the removable battery yet, and Motorola never confirmed anything on this front.
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2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
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That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
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That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
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The boatloader won't get unlocked. You'll see a workaround, like a 2nd-init, or something along those lines, but Verizon won't allow unlocked boatloaders, and Motorola is going to comply with Verizon's desire to keep the boatloader in lockdown.
That won't stop development, and ASOP ROM's which is what Droid Th3ory is working on, an ASOP ICS port.
mhhh but the Atrix have unlocked bootloader, why only that moto have that luck?
Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Except for the Galaxy Nexus...
So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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Very good question. Why don't you ask them? It would be interesting to hear their reply.
Well it looks like dev on this phone is dead!
I mean they have already released ICS 4.0.2 for the vzw GN and we ain't got **** yet!!
Looks like I'm going to have give this phone the wifey and go get me a GN.
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but no dev spt is a bummer!
...What are you talking about. The Nexus shipped with ICS in the first place, of course it got it before we did. And it got 4.0.2 update 2 hours later straight from Google. That has nothing to do with Dev support.
And naturally, since it's a Nexus device, it's gonna get ages more dev support than any other phone. But we are getting places ourselves. DroidTh3ory released RAZRX two days ago. He's working on ICS right now. We got Safestrap 2 days ago. Once we get the FXZ files we're probably going to get like 200x the support we're getting right now. Not to mention the Nexus' hardware which is composed of fantastic innards, but a plastic, easy-to-chip case, normal glass screen with minimal scratch resistance, & a weak radio.
It boggles me how you can say dev support is dead with all of the stuff that's LITERALLY happened in the past two days.
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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I posted this somewhere else, there's really 2 reasons for this:
1) Google required that the Nexus come "open".
2) In the agreement to carry the phone, essentially Samsung & Google have taken over support for the phone, to the point where the contract, while through Verizon, is actually supported by Google, and therefore they can dictate the bootloader.
That's what I could gather from reading up on how the Nexus came to be a Verizon phone. There were some pretty heavy negotiations here, and Verizon didn't want Sprint to get the phone, and couldn't stand to have another Iphone/Att&t exclusive situation happen again.
Now, for Moto, they are already heavily tied to Verizon, and so they have no leverage for getting their devices to be released as open.
They even were first (I believe) to start saying they wanted open phones, back when the xoom was released. They made a statement that by late 2011 they were going to release all their phones with unlocked bootloaders like the xoom was......that didn't happen because Verizon threatened to pull the phones if they did that.
Verizon even forced HTC to remove it's bootloader unlock tool on the web, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's really not Moto's fault, it's Verizon's, and the Nexus is going to be the way it is because Google has control, not Verizon.
yeah except the nexus ships locked and is unlockable through adb.
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So what you're saying is we'll get a ICS Rom from developers long before any Verizon update to ICS.....right? Because waiting till June is absurd! This phone is just too friggin good to not get some attention......is my opin,anyway....
Hello!
I don't know, maybe someone remembers me from P880 forum
Whatever - in that time the 4X HD had locked bootloader which no one was able to unlock it, so I decided to make a petition about it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852721). We succeed and we could unlock the bootloader via fastboot oem unlock in Jelly Bean update.
Now LG did it again, their G2 and G3 flagships as well as some other devices are locked as hell again. I decided today to reopen my petition and share this message to You guys so maybe we could get the unlockable bootloader again, or at least a way to unlock it like it is for example HTC phones.
Here's the link to the petition:
http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
Let's have at least some hope for it, so we could get easier development and also G3 development could rise.
My reopened petition has 4031 supporters (for now) so it should be a little visible
Individual emails have also the meaning. If You have a minute, please send emails to these addresses, also don't forget to mention about our petition:
[email protected]
[email protected]
EDIT: I'm posting in G3's petition thread to prevent (my) spam, also G3 community is the most active, so that's why I decided to keep posting and updating there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/petition-possibility-to-unlock-t2832032
Thanks reas0n for your petition I also signed it. I also remember about the 4xhd locked bootloader, I wanted to buy that after I sold my 2x which bootloader got unlocked by wkpark, but I didn't really bought it because of the locked boot loader.
Maybe with unlocked boot loader display problems mightnbe less and less vertical stripes while flashing ROMs. Unlocked boot loader would also offer more possibilities and better then bypassing the jellybean boot loader.
I hope this petition reaches fast the 10.000.
This should be on xda news so the petition will be fast 10.000 times signed by xda members.
Where do i sign ?
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Where do i sign ?
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it's here http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
done:good::good:
Thanks, signed but had to switch to desktop site to do so ☺
Signed
I will share to my fan page 3661 member
Signed, thank you for opening the petition.
I didn't read it just signed so I hope I can trust you and didn't sign some crazy thing lol jk
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Signed!
Locked bootloaders are an absolute deal breaker for me with any device.
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i doubt lg will do anything about it, i signed it though its worth a try
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i doubt lg will do anything about it, i signed it though its worth a try
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Agreed on both counts.
But if LG is serious about putting a dent in samsungs sales they had better reconsider this locked bootloader for all crap.
If a carrier asks for it thats one thing but a generic lockdown is total BS.
Ive been waiting to get a G3 since they were announced and the locked BL is a HUGE letdown.
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force70 said:
Agreed on both counts.
But if LG is serious about putting a dent in samsungs sales they had better reconsider this locked bootloadet for all crap.
If a carrier asks for it thats one thing but a generic lockdown is total BS.
Ive been waiting to get a G3 since they were announced and the locked BL is a HUGE letdown.
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i owned a galaxy nexus earlier and it was a breeze, sadly the battery life was crap. ths ame goes with nexus 5. so i thought lg g2 was a better choice, and it was no regrets, sure the updates are a little late but i get such awesome camera features and some other proprietary stuff which i do enjoy to a certain extent
shriom_manerker said:
i owned a galaxy nexus earlier and it was a breeze, sadly the battery life was crap. ths ame goes with nexus 5. so i thought lg g2 was a better choice, and it was no regrets, sure the updates are a little late but i get such awesome camera features and some other proprietary stuff which i do enjoy to a certain extent
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i had the Gnex ,too. glad that this petition is here. I just do my part!
Only for G2, but IT'S SOMETHING:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/devs-bootloadee-unlock-hint-t2840205
It may be useful, but we will see what devs will say.
Didn't want to leave my community without informations, so here's what I got from LG Open Source:
We know there are lots of requests to unlock bootloader.
We will inform you when we have good news.
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and LG Developer:
Thank you for your feedback regarding bootloader unlock and
we are sorry for any inconvenience and disappointment that have been caused by lack of support for bootloader unlock on the latest LG smartphones.
We are already aware of many developers’ requests and opinions on bootloader unlock.
So we have been preparing a server to provide safer bootloader unlock.
Also, we are internally discussing the target model and the time of providing bootloader unlock.
However, it will take some more time due to the technical restrictions, security issues, and the policy of mobile carriers.
We deeply apologize that we are unable to support bootloader unlock right now and would like to ask for your kind understanding.
We will let you know more specific information when the support policy for bootloader unlock is decided.
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Dan Rosenberg Unlocks Moto X Bootloader, Says Almost All Snapdragon Devices are Vulnerable
Be patient.
I made the thread about this, it won't work on G2.
What are the advantages of unlocked boot loader? As we have custom roms recovery root aosp roms etc..then for what?
Hi all. For those that's don't know me, my name is Rashed and I'm the current CM LG G2, HTC One M9, Oppo R7+, and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) LTE maintainer. I would like to be able to develop for the G5 as well and bring CM to this wonderful device, however, being a student, I am limited on cash right now, so I am reaching out to the community to ask for help in acquiring a G5. I have started a GoFundMe (link below) that will go solely to the purchase of a bootloader unlocked G5 that I can bring CM up on. To anyone who does donate, I thank you for your generosity and confidence in my ability to deliver.
Thank you
G5 AOSP GoFundMe:
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Rashed97 said:
Hi all. For those that's don't know me, my name is Rashed and I'm the current CM LG G2, HTC One M9, Oppo R7+, and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) LTE maintainer. I would like to be able to develop for the G5 as well and bring CM to this wonderful device, however, being a student, I am limited on cash right now, so I am reaching out to the community to ask for help in acquiring a G5. I have started a GoFundMe (link below) that will go solely to the purchase of a bootloader unlocked G5 that I can bring CM up on. To anyone who does donate, I thank you for your generosity and confidence in my ability to deliver.
Thank you
G5 AOSP GoFundMe:
gofundme.com/9dvrs7bx
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This takes me to a page to which the connection cannot be established.
Will this be for carrier versions as well? Which device do you plan on buying with the funded moneys
InflatedTitan said:
Will this be for carrier versions as well? Which device do you plan on buying with the funded moneys
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dude long time no see, are you coming over to LG lol
MadMax said:
dude long time no see, are you coming over to LG lol
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What up man! I've been all over lol. Went from HTC (still my fav) to Nexus 5 & 6. Then G4, now G5. Wife wants one and they offering buy one get one free. So why not ya know ?
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IDK man, it's working fine here.
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Will this be for carrier versions as well? Which device do you plan on buying with the funded moneys
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I'd buy either the T-Mobile variant since it will most likely be unlocked like the G3 and G4 or the EU unloackable version, depending on availability.
I will happily throw some cash your way if we can confirm that the G5 comes bootloader unlocked or is relatively easy to unlock via official channels.
I though you don't supposed to ask for money on xda?
After only having root for G4 for so long.. I'd stuff money down your pants too if there's a multi variant boot unlock or even bump for that matter.
The main goal is to have some sort of way around it as you can only root marshmallow with a modified kernel. The road looks tough but I'm thinking this device will be more popular than the G4 was...
Coachmark2 said:
I will happily throw some cash your way if we can confirm that the G5 comes bootloader unlocked or is relatively easy to unlock via official channels.
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I'm 99% sure the T-Mobile variant will be unlockable and so will the EU non-carrier variant as well.
InflatedTitan said:
After only having root for G4 for so long.. I'd stuff money down your pants too if there's a multi variant boot unlock or even bump for that matter.
The main goal is to have some sort of way around it as you can only root marshmallow with a modified kernel. The road looks tough but I'm thinking this device will be more popular than the G4 was...
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Rooting on 6.0 is pretty difficult due to the dm-verity Google added. But I'm confidant there will be an exploit.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-external-link/lg-g5-on-t-mobile-will-have-a-locked-bootloader/
Write an open letter to the Santa Claus. Had worked very well for me in the past. ?
The device is VERY affordable for the price of $49.99.. with a number port or new line of service..
Some Dealers are even giving it away free with a new line of service.
But.. this device overall draws No Interest even though you get some decent features for a decent price.
Maybe it's because there is no way to revert it back to stock for the foreseeable future for warranty issues or upgrades.. maybe it's having to look at that Warning message everytime you boot up once you unlock the bootloader.. I don't know.
But.. for $49.99 who cares? The Stylo 3+ will do rooted stock with Xposed and some modules.
The Moto E4 / G5s lines along with Xiaomi seem to be your best bet for sub $200.00 devices with a plethora of support.
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This phone isn't $50. It's over $200. I agree, though. We do need a dev who can work on Lineage. I'm actually fine with the stock ROM for now.
I Guess You Did Not Know..
AidenSurvival said:
This phone isn't $50. It's over $200. I agree, though.
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I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News...
But.. with MetroPCS you can port over a number from another carrier.. and Yes.. you can get the LG Stylo 3 Plus for just $49.99.. plus 1 Month's service and Tax based on the retail price.. ( If applicable in your state ) so.. if you paid over $200.00.. well I don't know what to say..
RaiderWill said:
I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News...
But.. with MetroPCS you can port over a number from another carrier.. and Yes.. you can get the LG Stylo 3 Plus for just $49.99.. plus 1 Month's service and Tax based on the retail price.. ( If applicable in your state ) so.. if you paid over $200.00.. well I don't know what to say..
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You've never had T-Mobile postpaid. T-Mobile has price discrimination. So, $9/month. or $220 total
Really?
AidenSurvival said:
You've never had T-Mobile postpaid. T-Mobile has price discrimination. So, $9/month. or $220 total
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I Sorry You Were Not Informed Of My Past Purchases....
But... Let me direct your attention to the attached picture below...
You See.... I HAVE HAD T-MOBILE POSTPAID... again, sorry no one informed you of that BEFORE you presumed to know my past.
And... Please.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but I do believe the specifications of the T-Mobile variant and the MetroPCS variant are EXACTLY the same.. again I may be off a spec or two..
Bottom line is.. basically the same device.. Using The Same Towers and one cost $225.00 and the other $49.99.
Frankly, I don't care if my bill is paid 30 days prior of 40 days post...... as long as it's paid.
So.. I'll just keep my MetroPCS variant and use the $170.00 or so savings on other things.
Sorry off subject.
Has anyone successfully flash factory firmware in case of soft brick? For warrenty issues any sucees in custom recovery then bootloader lock in cause one would like to avoid warrenty by unlocking boot loader?
I purchased as second phone. Willing to develop if there is a way to relock bootloader, if there is such a thing. I haven't had time for development since the LG V10
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GraphMatix said:
Sorry off subject.
Has anyone successfully flash factory firmware in case of soft brick? For warrenty issues any sucees in custom recovery then bootloader lock in cause one would like to avoid warrenty by unlocking boot loader?
I purchased as second phone. Willing to develop if there is a way to relock bootloader, if there is such a thing. I haven't had time for development since the LG V10
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Hello.. And Welcome To The Party..
Unfortunately, there is no "Stock Factory Firmware" ( a.k.a. KDZ in LG lingo..) I just called LG on this matter yesterday.. and inquired out of curiosity as to when it might be released.. No E.T.A. whatsoever.
Just for kicks.. I inquired about the security patch still being of the April variety.. again, no answer as to when that will be updated as well..
But when it comes to the security patch.. it really does not matter when you unlock your boot loader.. that action alone Opens The Door... to Malware and any other violation you can think of when it comes to Jacking You Up.
That's why companies frown upon having a boot loader with the ability to be unlocked.. they don't want you coming back to them crying with a compromised or bricked device.
Personally, I like the way Motorola / Lenovo does it... and if I ran a company it's certainly the way that I would do it.. Keep it stock, and we have you covered.. or, wave your warranty and they give you the code to unlock your boot loader.. Then You Are On Your Own.. and they have a record of you ASKING to wave your warranty.. and that gives them the right to Refuse fixing your goof ups.
I understand we need to start emailing LG so that they released the firmware we didn't was the LG K10 and now every variant of it has been rooted has TWRP and all firmwares are available.
What about using something like LG up or uppercut to extract the firmware from my stock LG Stylo 3 plus?
I don't have the time two develop, or full knowledge on what is needed to be done for LG MP450.
I'm debating on going back to Metro and just picking up the Stylo 2 plus considering developers are already working on it. Resurrection and lineage are released for Stylo 2. Also there are already released for the LG K-10 not sure what variant you're using I use MetroPCS so mine would be the ms428.
I don't really see any hardware specs that are better on the Stylo 3 than the Stylo 2 other than the internal memory but my goal is to use my 128 GB SDXC card. I can partition some of it to be adaptable another partition to be storage (FAT32) and two other partitions for link2sd and Swapper (EXT4) and lastly swap.
Stylo 3+ Not For You ?
GraphMatix said:
we need to start emailing LG so that they released the firmware we didn't was the LG K10
I don't have full knowledge on what is needed to be done for LG MP450.
I'm debating on going back to Metro and just picking up the Stylo 2 plus considering developers are already working on it..
I don't really see any hardware specs that are better on the Stylo 3 than the Stylo 2 other than the internal memory.
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LG will release the firmware at some point... Actually, the stock firmware runs just fine.. I have not seen any glitches.. even when I had 100% of LG's setup installed. I'm down to about 30% factory and 70% personal and I'm getting 12+ hours of S.O.T. ( I posted some pics in another thread ) I don't think LG is in a rush.. there is nothing terribly wrong.. "If It Ain't Broke...."
If it's a bunch of ROM's you are looking for... you picked the wrong phone. by the time there is a choice of ROM's there will be a whole new choice of phones to choose from..
The Moto G5s Plus comes to mind.. if you look at the INCREDIBLE support the G5 Plus has ( I owned one but the 5.2 inch screen was just a little too small for me ) Just wait until the G5s Plus with it's 5000 maH battery and 5.5 inch screen and $129.00 price has a few months under it's belt.. it will be "The" bang for the buck device to own if you enjoy Root & ROM's..
Guys is this device has a front flash ?
techboy11 said:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking mate? I don't believe this phone has a front flash for the camera, but I just got mine yesterday so I haven't tried it yet.
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So, let me start off by saying, I'm a hobbyist developer myself. Haven't posted a lot (if at all, to my closest friends) things that I've done for the many Android phones I've owned in the past. I just happen to grab this interesting device yesterday in Canada. Looking at this thread in particular, I don't believe this would be a form of motivation for me to start developing anything for this phone publicly, whether it be for the requested Metro PCS "cheaper" model, or what have you.
The OP seems to suggest that most developers can't afford phones, which I personally find offensive, as I work my butt off to go through as many phones as I do/have. Sure, I've seen a few, which I find them to be genuine and supportive of their work, I've never minded supporting.
This thread also feels like most "ETA??" threads that I've seen for even more popular phones I've had, such as my beloved recent Nexus 6P.
All in all, this is just my two cents. I'll keep following and lurking around to see if someone decides to work out something for the Stylo. I've never owned the Stylo variant of LG phones before, and so far I love it as just stock, which is a very new (and good) feeling for me.
~Cheers
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Yes i meant the front camera flash, on gsmarena is mentioned that it have a front flash that's why i wanted to make sure.
messi2050 said:
Yes i meant the front camera flash, on gsmarena is mentioned that it have a front flash that's why i wanted to make sure.
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Just tried it man and yeah, it totally does. Pretty bright, too. Blinded myself at 8 in the morning. hahaha :laugh: :good:
techboy11 said:
Just tried it man and yeah, it totally does. Pretty bright, too. Blinded myself at 8 in the morning. hahaha :laugh: :good:
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Great :laugh:
One or two slightly antagonistic posts removed.. hopefully we can move on.
Mike
nvm
just got this phone today so if any devs ever pick up please contact me if you need testers.
No I'm actually happy with the phone I don't need a bunch of ROMs. I'm comfortable with unlocking the bootloader and flashing stock. My only concern was through MetroPCS they have the phone replacement program if something happens to your phone you pay the deductible and get a new one. I know that unlocking the bootloader blow void the warranty not sure how that works with paying the $6 a month in case the phone is lost or stolen.
I would actually like to start developing on my own again. Although I've been out of the game for a few years I know I can get back into it fairly easily. Because of my circumstances I am going to stick with the LG Stylo 3 plus from Metro PCS. As of now I disable any OTA updates I have yet to unlock Bootloader install custom recovery and root phone.
I am paying for the $6 a month extra to replace phone if lost or stolen. Or if during the process of development I broke it and I can say it was lost or stolen. I do like the phone. Thank you so much for being around hopefully within the next day or two I can grab my sisters laptop and install custom recovery, root, ROM is available. And go from there
stock
Is there any way I can get the stock firmware?
The device is VERY affordable for the price of $49.99.. with a number port or new line of service..
Some Dealers are even giving it away free with a new line of service.
But.. this device overall draws No Interest even though you get some decent features for a decent price.
Maybe it's because there is no way to revert it back to stock for the foreseeable future for warranty issues or upgrades.. maybe it's having to look at that Warning message everytime you boot up once you unlock the bootloader.. I don't know.
But.. for $49.99 who cares? The Stylo 3+ will do rooted stock with Xposed and some modules.
The Moto E4 / G5s lines along with Xiaomi seem to be your best bet for sub $200.00 devices with a plethora of support.
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as a kdz is out, i started creating the tree