I will keep the original post updated in case I run into any issues or any other things I like about this product.
Packaging
The wireless charger came in a very nice slip cover box that was very well put together to protect the things that it came with. Included in the package was the charger itself, a 3ft. USB cable, a nice set of thorough directions. The only thing I did not like is that it does not come with it's own charging block because the fast charging block that comes with Samsung devices does not work for some reason. It does have to be a 18W charging block otherwise the pad will not charge your device in fast mode
The Charging Pad
The pad is very simple in design and is a very minimal footprint anywhere that you may put it. It only has on port on it, the power input. It would be nice if it had another USB power out on it, but in doing so would make the charging pad bigger in size. It does feature 4 rubber feet on the bottom of the pad that are supposed to help to keep it from slipping around and I found them to do their ob well on all but the smoothest of surfaces. The pad also includes a raised rubber design on the top to keep your phone from sliding off and I found that these actually did a very well at their job, with or without a case. Other than that it has a LED light on one corner that is very bright and easy to see at any time of the day, unless you use a larger phone such as me and then the phone covers the LED.
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Wireless Charging
The charging pad actually does a very good job at what it does. For such a small device I was actually getting very close to what a charging cable will apply to the phone with the stock charging block. I used two different apps, Ampre and Galaxy Charging Current to read the charge rate of my Samsung Galaxy s7 Edge. I will update this post later with actual charge times on my phone as it has been difficult to drain this battery and be able to keep and eye on it charging in one sitting.
Overall I really like the charging pad and can see myself using it for quite awhile. It does it a good job at what it was designed to do, but my only complaint is that it does not come with a charging block. This means that you have to use a fast charging one that came with your phone, unless it is a Samsung block, then you have to buy another one.
What app is that?
Which one?
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Which one?
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This one
That is ampre...as it says at the top left of the screen lol.
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I own the same charger as you (T513S) and I agree with your review, it is a great one. My S7 edge does not get super hot at all although it is a 3 coil charger and it is fast. Obviously not as fast as a wired QC charger, but still faster than my Samsung fast charge wireless charger. I know it's weird that a third-party brand is faster than the original brand, but it is the case!
I also own the T511S charger from CHOETECH and it is also a really good one. The main difference is the shape of the charger. It's a little bit smaller than the one you just reviewed, however it is very easy to just put the phone on it in any way possible and to charge it.
As with the T513S, the T511S also has a Led that tells you when it's charging and when it has finished charging, which is a plus. Neither of my S7 nor S7 edge are getting too hot when charged.
I fully charged my S7 edge from about 8% to 100% in 1.5Hrs but let's not forget that the first 40% are charged very fast compared to the remaining 60%. That means you can go from close to 0 to 40 in a few minutes (about 15).
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The reviews on amazon are amazing and it's only £9.99 in the UK. At the price I wasn't sure it would be a good investment but it sure was! Really great product! I actually bought 2.
Had the 3 coil choetech charging pad and proper charging adapter for a few days. phone and Pad got extremely hot send it back. I understand this happens with fast charging but I want my battery to last and this was hot not warm to the touch.
Heat + Battery = Short Life Span
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vivelafrance said:
I own the same charger as you (T513S) and I agree with your review, it is a great one. My S7 edge does not get super hot at all although it is a 3 coil charger and it is fast. Obviously not as fast as a wired QC charger, but still faster than my Samsung fast charge wireless charger. I know it's weird that a third-party brand is faster than the original brand, but it is the case!
I also own the T511S charger from CHOETECH and it is also a really good one. The main difference is the shape of the charger. It's a little bit smaller than the one you just reviewed, however it is very easy to just put the phone on it in any way possible and to charge it.
As with the T513S, the T511S also has a Led that tells you when it's charging and when it has finished charging, which is a plus. Neither of my S7 nor S7 edge are getting too hot when charged.
I fully charged my S7 edge from about 8% to 100% in 1.5Hrs but let's not forget that the first 40% are charged very fast compared to the remaining 60%. That means you can go from close to 0 to 40 in a few minutes (about 15).
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The reviews on amazon are amazing and it's only £9.99 in the UK. At the price I wasn't sure it would be a good investment but it sure was! Really great product! I actually bought 2.
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@vivelafrance Sorry mate,the second one,is this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1
Are you using it also for charging it during the night?Can you chose only the fast charging mode or also the normal mode?Just asking you this,because i know that with fast charging,the battery can degrade more easily...Tnx
@Flamehell It must be this fast model, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016DAFUGY/
Thanks
I have been searching for this info everywhere. Thanks man.
vivelafrance said:
I own the same charger as you (T513S) and I agree with your review, it is a great one. My S7 edge does not get super hot at all although it is a 3 coil charger and it is fast. Obviously not as fast as a wired QC charger, but still faster than my Samsung fast charge wireless charger. I know it's weird that a third-party brand is faster than the original brand, but it is the case!
I also own the T511S charger from CHOETECH and it is also a really good one. The main difference is the shape of the charger. It's a little bit smaller than the one you just reviewed, however it is very easy to just put the phone on it in any way possible and to charge it.
As with the T513S, the T511S also has a Led that tells you when it's charging and when it has finished charging, which is a plus. Neither of my S7 nor S7 edge are getting too hot when charged.
I fully charged my S7 edge from about 8% to 100% in 1.5Hrs but let's not forget that the first 40% are charged very fast compared to the remaining 60%. That means you can go from close to 0 to 40 in a few minutes (about 15).
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The reviews on amazon are amazing and it's only £9.99 in the UK. At the price I wasn't sure it would be a good investment but it sure was! Really great product! I actually bought 2.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnector-X...UTF8&qid=1413648702&sr=8-2&keywords=magnector
Below are some low res images of the charger.
Positives:
Speedy delivery here in the UK.
Same charge speed as supplied sony cable (it doesn't come with charging block so I used the Sony block to charge)
Slightly faster charging than the iP6+ using supplied Apple charger
The magnetic 'adhesion' is STRONG. See image below of entire phone hanging by the cable head.
Compatible with my phone cases.
Connector jumps to the contact point due to good magnetic strength, but with 50% accuracy of alignment unless you aim well. LOL.
When connected, it has a very good magnetic flex/elastic give at the point of connection so as to simply bounce back into place without falling out at the first hint of a nudge.
Cable more flexible than sony cable, which is VERY stiff.
Otherwise neat packaging.
Negatives:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
Ought to have been longer but it is the same length as the sony cable, so yes i'm nitpicking with that one.
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No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
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FYI, unless it's engineered incorrectly, it's impossible to seat the magnetic charger backwards. One side will never seat correctly onto the pin.
subhani said:
Negatives:
No warning that upside down fitment can burn the internals.
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Uh, the ability to fit the thing upside down would seem to be a rather serious defect, particularly if it can damage the phone when it's done??
npaladin2000 said:
Uh, the ability to fit the thing upside down would seem to be a rather serious defect, particularly if it can damage the phone when it's done??
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Agreed my friend. Thanks for the correction
EDIT: I have tried charging another Z3 using the cable upside down and realised that actually only ONE of the two metal points make ANY contact, the other simply doesn't slot in. I'm guessing that was by design by Sony. So it isn't really a con. I will update the OP.
Very nice review, I have ordered the cable not adapter from Amazon.
I have a question. I am yet to receive my Sony Z3C and I understand I have to give it full charge/discharge cycles for the first 4-5 times so that the battery can hold its charge properly.
Would using the magnetic charger be the same as using the micro USB charger?
As I don't want to mess up my battery, and if the magnetic charger will interfere with the first few charge cycles then I can charge the phone with Micro USB for the first few charges before I start using the magnetic charger.
wolf0491 said:
I just bought the adapter. Works pretty good. I have a 6 foot USB I use haha.
I does come off rather easy when sitting it some things like my bed. Can't use it in my car at all. But luckily I never need charg phone in car!
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What do you mean you can't use it in the car?
Even if the phone is in a cup holder or something to hold it stationary?
Hi,
Can someone please tell the size of the cable?
I am wondering wether to buy the cable or an adapter, depending on its length.
Thanks.
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I have a question. I am yet to receive my Sony Z3C and I understand I have to give it full charge/discharge cycles for the first 4-5 times so that the battery can hold its charge properly.
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This is not true. Lithium-Ion batteries do not require a "break-in" or "formatting", instead you should do at least one full charge, then full discharge and full charge again to calibrate the battery's controller. It will measure the current flow over time and set the levels for full and empty charge, so that your phone shuts off at exactly 0% and displays 100% when the battery is actually full. (There is no risk for overcharging if it's improperly calibrated though, it will just show 99% for a very long time or suddenly jump from a lower value to 100%.)
In essence, don't worry about messing up your battery. Do a 100%-0%-100% cycle at one time where you keep the charger plugged in while it's charging, maybe keep it attached even for another 20 minutes after it reached 100%. Then your battery will be calibrated perfectly and you can use it as normal. And it doesn't matter at all if you use the magnetic or USB charger.
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I bought BOTH the adapter and wired versions from Amazon. Will probably update or create my own thread for those interested to see the differences.
dragonfet said:
This is not true. Lithium-Ion batteries do not require a "break-in" or "formatting", instead you should do at least one full charge, then full discharge and full charge again to calibrate the battery's controller. It will measure the current flow over time and set the levels for full and empty charge, so that your phone shuts off at exactly 0% and displays 100% when the battery is actually full. (There is no risk for overcharging if it's improperly calibrated though, it will just show 99% for a very long time or suddenly jump from a lower value to 100%.)
In essence, don't worry about messing up your battery. Do a 100%-0%-100% cycle at one time where you keep the charger plugged in while it's charging, maybe keep it attached even for another 20 minutes after it reached 100%. Then your battery will be calibrated perfectly and you can use it as normal. And it doesn't matter at all if you use the magnetic or USB charger.[/]
Thanks a lot for clearing that up for me. That's easy.
It's so easy to get confused when a lot of people are giving different info.
Now I can put my mind at rest. So it's a full charge, then discharge fully and finally charge it fullt and I'm done.
Thanks again
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Anyone notice using the magnector X adapter that when you plug or unplug it from your phone while you have a browser open (chrome in my case) that it refreshes the browser page? Seems really odd. However when I plug the power directly to the micro usb port, it doesn't do this. Anyone experience this and if so, is there a reason this happens?
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Anyone notice using the magnector X adapter that when you plug or unplug it from your phone while you have a browser open (chrome in my case) that it refreshes the browser page? Seems really odd. However when I plug the power directly to the micro usb port, it doesn't do this. Anyone experience this and if so, is there a reason this happens?
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Maybe it's got something to do with the phone going in to dock mode when the magnetic charger is connected. I'm sure someone who knows more will be able to help you.
I believe you are correct. I dont see a way to disable this in settings. Not really an issue for me
Yes it's entering on dock mode when you plug in the magnetic cable. It can disable only with the help of xposed framework (which requires root) and unfortunately not yet available for us. Hope to have root for locked bootloader soon
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I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
NLBeev said:
The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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I spend a lot of time making short trips in my car, jumping in and out for meetings, and it would be nice to have this feature to get my phone charged back up in the 10 or 15 minutes I might have. I am not so much worried about whether or not the charger can charge the phone over long periods as I am typically just navigating or streaming Bluetooth. If I was using the 500ma ports built into the car then that would be another story.
Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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. . . Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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Sorry but I did not mean the 12 volt outlet, but a USB outlet. Many people here in NL are using usb-adapters in the sigaret lighter outlet. Many USB adapter are max 250mA at 5 volt
As far as I can see every charger will be good as long as the capacity is at least 1A at 5 volt.
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
I have the quick charger from vzw and have had no issues with it. Ya the phone gets warm, and it lives in a case. Still no issues.
artesea said:
I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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This is the one I have. I have only used it a few times but I have had zero issues with it. It seems to charge just as fast as the stock house charger in my opinion. It also has a notification light that lights up blue when it is plugged in / has power and green when it is actually charging your device. Kind of handy imo. I mainly went with this one because of it actually being "Qualcomm Certified" or whatever.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VH...ar+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=415UvP5jebL&ref=plSrch
This is the cable I got to go with it. It appears to be very nice and of high quality. I don't like being on a short leash.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SU...+usb+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=31ynDmfEZZL&ref=plSrch
I was looking for a quick charge 2.0 car charger on amazon, and ran into a little Bluetooth fm transmitter that you plug into the cigarette lighter. It has 2 usb ports both 2.1a (21W, 4.2A)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010ZOK1Q8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The reviews on it seem outstanding
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This is the one i'm rocking and love it
I also got a couple of blitzwolf chargers and they work great as well.
I use this and it works great....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3XIKXQ
As for the heat issue, I don't think the the phone will get THAT much hotter using this than it would with a standard charger. I think the majority of heat issues in a car scenario are a result of a combination of (A) having the phone mounted where the sun is shining on it and (B) having the screen on continuously (if navigating). The best way to combat this, in my opinion, is to find a phone holder that attaches to (or around) your car's vent. That way when you have your A/C on on hot days, it will keep the phone cool. It sounds silly but it works surprisingly well (Note: I've never had much issue with any of my phones getting too hot in the winter when this A/C method wouldn't really work).
I'd suggest looking into ProClip mounts... at least for my car and my previous car, they had an option that positioned the mount directly over a vent...
Note: If you are curious about the foam/tape, it's because I have a universal holder and not a Nexus 6 specific holder. The universal is not a great fit for the odd contours of the Nexus 6 so I added some foam.
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skrypj said:
Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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Definitely an awesome charger! I grabbed it on a similar deal!
Charger that comes with this phone is just labeled fast charge... Phone seems to charge pretty slow also from what I see.
i just installed some dual 2.4A usb outlets in my house they charge very fast from 8% to 100% in about an hour, considering the Amperage on the stock charger is 1.8A it doesn't seem like it would be enough to use the phone while charging.
I havent used the stock charger yet but mine reads it puts out [email protected] 1.8amps or [email protected] 1.8amps. I am waiting for my battery to get really low so i can see how fast it will charge.
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When the OEM charger is plugged in, swipe down and you can see it says it's being fast charged.
When plugged in, my screen does say Quick Charge, and my phone charged rather fast, but still getting used to it. Even when I had my phone plugged into a normal new USB C plugged directly into my usb outlet, it seemed to charge much faster than I was expecting.
Yes I understand it says fast charging, so does the quick charge 2.0 with this phone, but is it actually charging at QC 3.0 speeds??
It seems silly they would make a Quick Charge 3.0 phone and not supply the relevant charger.
I ordered an aftermarket QC 3.0 charger, I guess I can do some comparisons when it shows up.
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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They didn't give a qc2.0 charger with g4
turbodroid said:
I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
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I performed a test with the aftermarket QC 3.0 charger linked above and the one supplied with the phone. I drained to 90% and as soon as it hit 90 I plugged it in and started the timer. The results are nearly identical in how fast 100% charge was achieved.
The first screenshot of total time was the aftermarket charger and the 2nd is the factory charger. I would venture to guess based on these results, the factory charger is QC 3.0, but you can draw your own conclusions.
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Well if the stock charger says 9V @ 1.8A and 5V @ 1.8A, then it's not true QC 3.0 as that uses voltages from 5V - 20V.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
Before any of you rush out and buy a cheap charger to save a few bucks I'd think twice about it. I have been screwed by cheap chargers on more than one occasion which is why I refuse to buy them anymore.
I've had them stop working after a couple weeks and many of them made a very annoying noise. Some made a high pitch squealing noise while just sitting there doing nothing and others made the noise while charging.
Slow and Fast
I noticed it charged VERY slow at first while i was using the phone at the same time. I notoced the charger wasnt even slighty warm to the touch after 30+ minutes. That made me think and noticed if I left the phone at rest without turning it on it charges much quicker and the charger got warm quick. And the charger actually cools down if you start using it half way through a charge.
*I took a screen shot of the battery usage graph, but I'm new so I can't post photos yet so you'll have to trust me lol
My rough estimates are that if you are using the phone while charging it will take just over 2 hours, but if you don't touch it then it charges in under 50 minutes.
Mind you phones battery temperature also effects the charge rate, is if you have it on top of a pillow it might not charge as quick.
You don't wanna use the phone while it quick charges. Turn screen off for an hour and it will be done
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
The charger that came with the G5 is the same charger that came with my v10, it is only Quick Charge 2.0, I have compared the model #'s and they are exactly the same. I have gone on amazon and ordered a Anker Quick Charge 3.0 plug and a couple of their USB-C cables.
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I just contacted LG through their website via E-Mail regarding the Quick Charge 3.0 charger, I will follow-up once I receive an email back from them. The website advised that I should receive an email within 24 hours.
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
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I have drained to 50% and am performing the same test with the factory charger now. Will update results later this evening so I can repeat with the aftermarket charger.
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
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It's a wonder why anyone tries to share information on this site with comments like this. Since you probably only skimmed over what I posted, I said feel free to draw your own conclusions and that it was a 'quick test'.
When the phone gets to 80 % the other 20% go pretty slow, might even be similar to the QC 2.0... But 50% to 100% would be a good test, and we can see if there's a difference
Guys -- When LG unveiled the phone there was mention of Fast Wireless Charging (I have posted a screenshot of the event below).
Has anyone had any success with this? I am using a "Spigen Fast Charge" unit, that works with Samsung. It is supposed to provide fast charging as long as you use a QC 2.0 or 3.0 adapter, which I am currently testing with. However, so far I am getting normal wireless charge only, and if I swap out the adapter I get the same speed.
Can anyone advise if they are getting this to work, and if so, please let me know what you are using.
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Interesting - I'm using a Samsung Rapid Wireless Charging pad, and the V30 doesn't mention "fast wireless charging" when sitting on it. Hopefully it's rapid charging and just doesn't say "rapid wireless charging" onscreen...but I don't know....
After digging a little deeper, I figured it out. There are two commonly distributed versions of Qi wireless charging right now, and those are five watt and 10 Watt. 10 watt has been widely labeled as fast charging. However, there is now a 15 watt standard that is so new that it is pretty hard to get the pads for currently.
As luck would have it our brand new phone uses the brand new standard. So this means we get awesome super fast wireless charging, but it is very hard to find the pads at a decent price. Older pads do work, of course, but at the 5w speed. I tested and was unable to get any faster result from the 10w pad vs the 5w.
The 2 that I found that existed are an Incipio Ghost 15w, and Belkin Boost Up 15w wireless charging pad. The Incipio one runs $60 and only appears to be available on their website right now. The Belkin one is on Amazon for $60 but is currently backordered. There is another seller selling for $70 on Amazon, but I'm sure those will sell out soon.
Another option is AT&T who has the Belkin at the $70 retail price. They seem to have them in stock in their warehouse but very limited stock in stores.
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After digging a little deeper, I figured it out....
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Great info. Thanks!
We should keep this thread updated with links to fast wireless chargers that work with the V30.
Perhaps you could even update the title of the thread and content of the first post.
Best buy also carries the Belkin model. $60
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Are any of the new (faster) standard charging pads in the tilt style?
Stay with standard charging, less heat and the sealed battery will last longer Try and only charge to 90 % if you can, less charge cycles
Verizon is now selling a "house brand" quick charger capable of 15w. It is on sale right now for $69.99. The specs look to be adequate for the V30 quick charge requirements. It comes with its own power brick that has a 3A output at varying voltages. That should be more than enough power to meet the 15w Qi standard. I bought one for my V30 and will be testing it out starting tonight. I will post my results here.
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Verizon is now selling a "house brand" quick charger capable of 15w. It is on sale right now for $69.99. The specs look to be adequate for the V30 quick charge requirements. It comes with its own power brick that has a 3A output at varying voltages. That should be more than enough power to meet the 15w Qi standard. I bought one for my V30 and will be testing it out starting tonight. I will post my results here.
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Please do! I've been looking around for chargers that are ACTUALLY 15W chargers. I got burned by buying one that was labeled 15W--as in, it had three 5W coils, and would pick the one with the best connection from that.
I've actually been looking at the Wireless Power Consortium (the entity that regulates the Qi standard) website and there you can sort all approved chargers that support the "extended power profile" ie, 15W. Here's the complete list, if anyone is interested. Many of those are just circuit boards, designed for some other company to integrate into a device. Actual chargers on that list are only the Incipio Ghost, Belkin Boost, Verizon "in house", and one from a company called "Zens". The Zens doesn't appear to be readily available in the US, but maybe someone else will have better luck finding one.
Anyway, long story short, the Verizon one actually looks like the best design. It's based on the "B" reference spec, so it supports repositioning of the device (hence the 4 coils). The Belkin and Incipio do not. So if the Verizon really is all that it seems to be, it looks like the on to get!
I just got the Incipio Ghost 15 Watt pad, but the phone does not seem to indicate fast charging - the LED is supposed to pulse in this case - but seems to be charging at a rate similar to being plugged in.
It was on Newegg for 44 dollars, and I had a gift card so...
This doesn't really have anything to do with fast wireless charging but does anyone know of a way to change or turn off the wireless charging sound? It sounds more like a notification that a "charging" sound.
Here are the specs on the Verizon Fast Charging Pad (15w):
INPUT is 100-240V @ 1.4A
OUTPUT is 5-9V @ 3A, 15-20V @ 2.25A
INITIAL RESULTS:
This pad charged the V30 from the 15% low battery notification in 2 hours, 40 minutes. The max charge current reported by the Ampere app was 820mA, but normally it settled in around 750mA. Honestly, I would expect a true 15w charge to yield times close to 2 hours from zero percent....just a touch slower than fast charging with a cable. Not once during the charge did the OS ever report "fast wireless charging"--only "charging wirelessly". The battery reached a max temperature during charging of 36.3 C.
The V30 being capable of fast 15w wireless charging, despite what they have stated, could be a myth. I see no difference in performance between this verified 15w charger and say the Samsung convertible or any other fast charger out there right now. This may be an LG feature that is not turned on yet. Who knows?
I will keep working with it for a few days and let everyone know if something changes.
I am disappointed right now...first the crappy low-light screen imperfections...now the ambiguous fast charging. The V30 is a fantastic phone that looks like it might yet again fall just short of true greatness. C'mon, LG!
Real Test Results
Here is the average of three 0 to 100% wireless charges using Verizon's new Wireless Charging Pad 15w.
The total time from zero is almost exactly 3 hours and 30 minutes.
0 to 5% , 7 minutes
10% at 21 minutes
15% at 35 minutes
20% at 48 minutes
25% at 58 minutes -- this is where LG claims it will charge to 50% with fast wireless charge (55 min.)
30% at 75 minutes
35% at 88 minutes
40% at 101 minutes
45% at 111 minutes
50% at 128 minutes -- this is 70 minutes slower than "fast" wireless charging as presented by LG
...and so on...
100% at 210 minutes
There is clearly some heat management, current management, etc. happening as the intervals vary in a kind of cyclical pattern: fast, slow, a bit faster, a bit faster, fast, slow... The charger may even be delivering different voltages at certain times. I don't have a means of testing that right now.
The battery temperature never exceeded 37 C, so despite the fact that the Verizon pad has no active cooling, it doesn't appear that it will be an issue.
From the data, it seems clear that with a certified 15w charging pad, the times are actually between standard Qi (5w) and fast wireless charging a la Samsung (9w-10w).
In conclusion, I'm not really sure what LG is doing here. This is not the promised fast wireless charging. It is kind of like barely faster standard wireless charging. Hopefully this can be addressed in firmware or software updates.
The Verizon Fast Wireless Charging Pad 15w is up to the task power-wise, so it is anybody's guess as to why it just doesn't work the way it should. I may be taking the Verizon pad back and just going with one of the good regular Qi charging pads for now. No fault of Verizon...I just can't justify a fast charger for a phone that S L O W charges.
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The Verizon Fast Wireless Charging Pad 15w is up to the task power-wise, so it is anybody's guess as to why it just doesn't work the way it should. I may be taking the Verizon pad back and just going with one of the good regular Qi charging pads for now. No fault of Verizon...I just can't justify a fast charger for a phone that S L O W charges.
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Thanks for the measurements.
Could I ask a very small favor? I have a thin case and a flygrip. Total thickness is about .33 inches.
My previous phone (original Droid Turbo) with the flygrip charged fine on my Tylt VU. This phone wont charge with even a case on it. Not sure if the 3 coils aren't lined up properly for the V30 or what, but I'd like to have wireless charging back.
Note that it DOES work with no case. But no case, no flygrip = glass phone slipping out of my hand and dying a quick death.
Can you slip about .33 inches of plastic or something inert between the charger and phone and see if it charges? For reference the phone is about .30 inches thick, so something about like that. A new stack of post-its with 12 sheets removed is pretty close.
Big thanks.
The phone charges reliably through the thickness of 2 regular TPU cases. I slipped a V20 case on the outside of a V30 case and it works great. That thickness is 0.275 inch (~7 mm). That is 0.275 inch of TPU between the back glass and the charging pad. The interesting thing is, if i slip just one index card under the two cases it won't initiate a charge. But, if i place a third piece of TPU on there it will initiate a charge, but it becomes fussy at to where the phone is placed. That total thickness is ~0.355 inch (~9 mm). Now if I stack only index cards on the pad, it could only manage 0.22 inch reliably--with no case on the V30. This would seem to indicate that the type of material makes a difference. TPU is much more forgiving than paper--or--maybe the density of the paper is higher than the density of the TPU...I am just guessing.
So, I was able to get 0.355 inch of TPU working with the Verizon pad, which has 4 charging coils. It is finicky at that thickness. It just depends on what is between the coils and the phone.
It should easily charge with something as thick as the Otterbox Defender case. I'm not sure if you can get it to work with the flygrip and thin case at the same time.
I hope this helps a little bit.
You're my hero.
I might have to go down to the VZW store and make them open one up for me to test. I do love me some Qi.
Thanks for the very extensive testing you've done! A shame that it showed pretty much no charging improvement. Really frustrating that the phone does not appear to actually be charging at 15W or even 10W speeds.
I wonder what happened? LG seems to have been pretty clear about support for 15W Qi charging, and the V30 is even registered to the WPC as a receiver supporting the "Extended Power Profile (15W)". It does show as only 10.5W maximum received power, but that makes sense that there's power losses and such.
So what's the deal? Is there a software setting that's disabled? Is it an Android 8.0 only thing? I could believe some kind of marketing mixup (whether intentional or not) on the part of LG, but I would think the WPC registration should be right....
Fast wireless works fine with Zens charger. Indicates "fast wireless" explicitly. And it converts into a stand as an added bonus.
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Thanks for the very extensive testing you've done! A shame that it showed pretty much no charging improvement. Really frustrating that the phone does not appear to actually be charging at 15W or even 10W speeds.
I wonder what happened? LG seems to have been pretty clear about support for 15W Qi charging, and the V30 is even registered to the WPC as a receiver supporting the "Extended Power Profile (15W)". It does show as only 10.5W maximum received power, but that makes sense that there's power losses and such.
So what's the deal? Is there a software setting that's disabled? Is it an Android 8.0 only thing? I could believe some kind of marketing mixup (whether intentional or not) on the part of LG, but I would think the WPC registration should be right....
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Actually, someone in the wireless charger thread (I think that's where it is) in the accessories subforum has indicated that it will fast charge wirelessly but as of this moment, there's only three chargers that will do it and they're all $60 or more. It seems you have to be using one of those three 15W chargers.
Actually, someone in the wireless charger thread (I think that's where it is) in the accessories subforum has indicated that it will fast charge wirelessly but as of this moment, there's only three chargers that will do it and they're all $60 or more. It seems you have to be using one of those three 15W chargers.
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Ah I see that. So it does seem to be capable of fast charging, at least with the Belkin BoostUp and the Zens. However, on this thread another user indicated that the Incipio ghost 15W was NOT "fast charging", and neither is the Verizon Fast Charger. So right now it's really only those two, though I can't imagine why.
I'll try to look for the Zens charger, it looks like the nicest of all I've seen—just really hard to find!
Own 2 Belkin BoostUp 5W chargers that I've used successfully with s21u and s22u since I prefer low and slow overnight charging for battery health. I've had these phones in the past 3 months unfortunately because they've been used and returned due to a defective issue and now in the hands of S23u and hope to keep it lol
Chargers illuminate white and indicate charging on the phone. I ran Ampere as well and it read up to 350mA before it goes orange and refuses charge. It strangely works another 7.5w Insignia charger without issue(800mA). Anyone else encountered this? Is Samsung now starting to exclude very low wattage wireless chargers in hopes that people will buy their chargers? How very environmentally conscientious of them! Hope there's a way to modify this
Buy a proper charger and drop those BoostUps off at the recycling depot.
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Own 2 Belkin BoostUp 5W chargers that I've used successfully with s21u and s22u since I prefer low and slow overnight charging for battery health.
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Ive been charging my Note 20 5G with the 25W fast charging, since I bought it late 2020. I get all of maybe 10 minutes less max screen time, than I got in 2020. And thats probably just margin of error.
Ive charged every Samsung device Ive owned, at their maximum rated wattage, since my S2.
You will have the overall same experience from a L-ION battery, unless you charge it at higher amps than its rated for (which you cant do with any major company's cell phone/tablet/OEM charger).
I dont know where you got that incorrect idea from, but a 25-45W charging speed for the S23 will not degrade a healthy battery.
If it does, warranty it.
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Ive charged every Samsung device Ive owned, at their maximum rated wattage, since my S2.
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Not on an S2 you didn't. I recall they maxed out at 650ma charging. Man, good memories
That official 2000mah extended battery took a good while to top up from low...
Yesterday took 5h10 min to charge it with apple 5W charger...
stupid fck samsung with ''save the planet'' You need 3 parcels + 3 delivery + 3 packaging + 3 everything to complete a 1900$ phone .
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Not on an S2 you didn't. I recall they maxed out at 650ma charging. Man, good memories
That official 2000mah extended battery took a good while to top up from low...
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650MA is its maximum rated wattage that I didnt charge it at?
Log off, ya done
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650MA is its maximum rated wattage that I didnt charge it at?
Log off, ya done
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I'm sorry?
asrah said:
Ive been charging my Note 20 5G with the 25W fast charging, since I bought it late 2020. I get all of maybe 10 minutes less max screen time, than I got in 2020. And thats probably just margin of error.
Ive charged every Samsung device Ive owned, at their maximum rated wattage, since my S2.
You will have the overall same experience from a L-ION battery, unless you charge it at higher amps than its rated for (which you cant do with any major company's cell phone/tablet/OEM charger).
I dont know where you got that incorrect idea from, but a 25-45W charging speed for the S23 will not degrade a healthy battery.
If it does, warranty it.
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25-45W *wired* charging is perfectly fine due to the efficient transfer of power. Wireless charging at 15w will generate significantly more heat and will require an active fan to cool it. Heat will still be generated and that long term applies more wear to the battery. This has been known for a while which is why i wireless charge at lower wattages. Wired charging I send the full 45w. I intend on keeping this device for several years.
I've been using 100W rated magnetic connectors for a couple of years now. They offer the convenience of wireless charging without the heat related issues.
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I've been using 100W rated magnetic connectors for a couple of years now. They offer the convenience of wireless charging without the heat related issues.
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Any down side?
I haven't encountered any. They keep your C-port free of debris and cut down on wear and tear. I've got 2 wireless 15 watt chargers collecting dust now from lack of use.
This is the type I use: USB C Magnetic Adapter
I sourced them from Ali express for 1/3 the price.
hand-filer said:
I haven't encountered any. They keep your C-port free of debris and cut down on wear and tear. I've got 2 wireless 15 watt chargers collecting dust now from lack of use.
This is the type I use: USB C Magnetic Adapter
I sourced them from Ali express for 1/3 the price.
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Do you use a case? Any incompatibility?
I have a Belkin TrueFreedom wireless charger and a Samsung Charging Pad. Both of these do slow 5W 'overnight' charging when I turn off Wireless Fast Charge in the Settings, and both of them do 10W charging when I turn on Wireless Fast Charge. Battery temperature never exceeds 34C when using these (checked via GSAM). Still love the convenience of wireless charging overnight, with the option of wired charging when I need it.
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Do you use a case? Any incompatibility?
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I use a case; dbrand Grip in this image. No compatibility issues with it, Spigen, UAG or any of the 1/2 dozen other brands that I cycled through with the previous S22 Ultra. FWIW, I settled on the Grip Case for the S23U. It's by far the best of them all.