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So I pre-ordered last night at my local at&t store. I am excited as before I went to my at&t store I passed by best buy to hold the dummy model they have. Its big but I was still able to thumb the other side of the device with one hand. I also played with the samsung player which has a 5" screen and runs android but I guess thats just suppose to be an mp3 player, either way it looked similar to the note and it looked great. I can imagine how good the note's display will look.
The only thing right now that is bugging me a little is getting by with no led notification. Can you guys suggest how to get over that little led light that will no longer be on the note? Or how you guys with devices with no led lights are coping?
there is a app that you can get and its free called no led.. My wife had the same issue as she was used to a led light and when she got her samsung she missed it.. works well
But that requires your screen to turn on so basically killing the battery right? I know some samsung devices have that bln mod but not sure how well that works and if its even compatible with the lte note. Any led camera flash apps maybe?
no it puts a small icon that lights up on your screen and bounces around. the rest of your screen is dark.
Camera flash? For notifications? Seems to me that would kill that battery way faster than 64 pixels floating around the screen . . .
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But that requires your screen to turn on so basically killing the battery right? I know some samsung devices have that bln mod but not sure how well that works and if its even compatible with the lte note. Any led camera flash apps maybe?
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What does it really mean to "turn on the screen" for the Samsung AMOLED displays? LCD-based displays need a backlight, even when displaying a single pixel. But turning on just a few LED pixels on a Samsung AMOLED display is probably a very low power operation, since only active pixels should need to be powered, and since there is no backlight.
I haven't had an LED notification for years. And I am thankful that I don't. I remember on BB when I had the LED notification, I was constantly looking at my phone to see if the light was beeping. Without it, I'm so much less obsessed with seeing if I have that stupid blinking light.
@bkeaver - I thought it required the screen to be on
@LiquidArrogance - I've seen the iphone do it like that with a case
@vaxheadroom - Then I definitely am not sure the difference between lcd and AMOLED displays
@kiltedthrower - I'm still obsessed no thanks to the blackberry days
here is a link to the app.... should give you a idea of how it works and what it looks like
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.led.notify
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But that requires your screen to turn on so basically killing the battery right? I know some samsung devices have that bln mod but not sure how well that works and if its even compatible with the lte note. Any led camera flash apps maybe?
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Once a kernel is developed that supports bln which I imagine will be fairly quickly, it will be available. And it works very well, I use it on my captivate all you have to do is install the bln supporting kernel, download the app, set up what apps turn on the leds and you're done.
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Once a kernel is developed that supports bln which I imagine will be fairly quickly, it will be available. And it works very well, I use it on my captivate all you have to do is install the bln supporting kernel, download the app, set up what apps turn on the leds and you're done.
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Is it a strain on battery at all? Or does noled work better in regards to battery life?
So some of you with white Z5 compact phones might have had this touch sceen bug with repetitive key presses and unstable touch screen behaviour bug which was previously "fixed" by a software upgrade:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/21/white-xperia-z5-compact-touch-screen-fix-arriving-next-week/
Lo and behold. This bug is back in MM, and there is another guy in the thread which I can see also have the bug come back
It is not always there, but sometimes its just there. I dont know what triggers it. A restart seems to help until it comes back again.
For those of you not familiar with this bug, it usually shows by repetitive touches, and highly unstable touch screen.
For example when i press the key "s", it usually put in "sssssss" like i have pushed that key 5-6 times.
Also the bugs shows, when for example you are scrolling in facebook/internet, it will not let you scroll. Whenever you touch the screen, it will enter, whereever you lay your finger on screen.
Lastly it also shows by the screen becoming completely unresponsive when you press anywhere.
I have clean installed MM and restored my apps via Sony Backup/restore app.
I am so pissed how a phone color (white) can somehow decide the behavior of the phone touch screen, and I believe sony is hiding something.
In the beginning I was thinking that maybe they made different builds for the different Z5 colors, so they might not have included the "newest" touch screen drivers for at launch time for the white version.
But the same bug appearing AGAIN in MM i have a very hard time understanding that should be the case that it was a software bug. I believe there are some hardware bug, they have somehow omitted by a software circumvention, and they forgot to add it to the white version for the MM launch.
Personally I have always had a problem with the "return" key when the phone is placed. Patch or not, this button works once out of 10.
For information, I just bought this phone. I also think there is a hardware problem. This is average for a manufacturer like Sony. I thought for a moment it back in service but when I see the number of dissatisfied with the service Sony in France, I preferred to keep my phone in the hope that a solution comes a day. We have the right to expect in my opinion ...
I did clean install via flastool also and i have/had this problem. Yesterday i did software repair via pc companion and restores apps after that and so far problem has not occured.
I also made a repair with PC Companion but nothing changed.
So there are other people here with this annoying problem.
You all have a white xperia yes?
This bug is so annoying I feel sometimes like tossing the phone into a wall.
If there was an alternative to this phone in this form factor and specs, I would have bought it yesterday.
But unfortunately there isn't
It's a poor ground connection from the digitizer most likely. You can replicate this "bug" on any device with a bad USB charger. I had a charger that would cause my Nexus 7 to detect random touches.
The software fix was likely adjusting the voltage threshold for touch events to be considered actual presses. It was likely forgotten about when they updated and just needs to get readjusted again. Too bad we don't have the ability to adjust the threshold ourselves in developer options
That being said I have a white z5c and I've only had this "bug" happen once and I just chalked it up to me being plugged into the wall and didn't think much of it. I use my phone constantly too.
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It's a poor ground connection from the digitizer most likely. You can replicate this "bug" on any device with a bad USB charger. I had a charger that would cause my Nexus 7 to detect random touches.
The software fix was likely adjusting the voltage threshold for touch events to be considered actual presses. It was likely forgotten about when they updated and just needs to get readjusted again. Too bad we don't have the ability to adjust the threshold ourselves in developer options
That being said I have a white z5c and I've only had this "bug" happen once and I just chalked it up to me being plugged into the wall and didn't think much of it. I use my phone constantly too.
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Interesting theory. Do you think it is likely that this issue only occurs for one phone color (WHITE), and then only for some whites.
The assembly line for the phones should more or less be the same, no mater the color.
I also have Sony Z5 compact white version which had the touch problem from start. Now after the Marshmallow update its back. As said above, it could happen while browsing (or on home screen) e.g. Entering links instead of scolling i.e. It triggers multi click. In these situations all menu keys will also be none responsive. Its starts acting normal again after a quick push of the power button, i.e. puttning the screen to sleep.
As a former developer for mobile software, both for apps and the android platform, i thinking i would agree with the above conclusion that the problem is hardware based, and not due to a difference in the delivery software version, as i was hopping. So the question is; will this always be a problem for these versions of Z5c white, i.e. they are forgotten in new builds?
Unfortunately I'm having the same problem with my white z5 compact...
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Interesting theory. Do you think it is likely that this issue only occurs for one phone color (WHITE), and then only for some whites.
The assembly line for the phones should more or less be the same, no mater the color.
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it happens that for different colors are used different materials.. probably white ones have different properties..
i can confirm that using bad cable/chargers this kind of bug happens with every device, with random touches and impossible scrolling.. if you have a well-known bad adapter and you note no differences with your white z5c, that's definitively the answer..
i think sony should recall all white z5cs and replace them with newer or different release
What revision of compact Z5 are you? Personally I have a revision 3 (that is written on the box).
I also had a touch of problem before moving to the latest version of Android (6).
My girlfriend also bought white Z5 Compact and funny thing... I put the Panzer Glass on the screen and guess what? Sometimes she can't turn off the alarm clock in the morning and sometimes navigation buttons are not responding. I tried then without the screen and it works without a problem. I am not sure if this is a problem with Panzer glass or sony's bug.
I have Z5 and have no problems, but mine is black edition
Mine is z5c white version as well. The bug started again on MM
And the bug quite annoying.
I bought it on updated lollipop.
And never had this problem before.
This plus Bluetooth is really making me hold off on not moving up from .200 lol
Argh - just saw the visual representation of this bug:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/06/xperia-z5-compact-owners-reporting-touch-screen-problems/
and it sounds A LOT like the one from the OnePlus One (driver & firmware issue)
easy blame: Synaptics - fix your ****
Anyway:
try enabling the double-tap-to-wake if it's not already enabled, lock the screen - give it some time to settle (~ 30 seconds),
wake it up (double-tap) - do some stuff - disable the double-tap-to-wake and lock the screen again.
Unlock it via power button and see if that improved the "situation".
Sony recommended a few times to boot into Safe Mode,
does this Mode exist on Android Marshmallow ?
Does it make any change ?
Had this in Nougat is there a fix?
It feels like a software problem! You can try to reinstall the system!
First consider whether it is a system problem. You can refresh the system to see if it is back to normal. If it still does not, then you may need to update a new LCD screen. You can go online to find the repaired video as a reference. The witrigs repair video is doing great, you can check it out!
hi i like this phone but without double take to wake i wont buy it.
it doesnt have the 4g b20 800mhz. i could live with that.. but i really cant live without double tap to wake i have a lg g3. and every chinees phone i buy has it. so for me it's a standard
Your can wakeup by fingerprint sensor. It was the best.
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U can also use the proximity sensor, it's faster than fingerprint and dt2w and eats nearly zero battery.
i was tempted to port it but after getting used to the fingerprint i guess its not really necessary
hum. my phone is always laying on the table next to my pc. so it's pretty annoying to have to lift up the phone to see if i have notifications. (i mean to read them)
i have LG phone and i can't live without double tap to wake. i mso used to the back buttons so a finger print scanner on the back is nice but no dt2w is stupid i mean i dont always have my phone in my hand. so if i want to wake it up i just double tap, but without that i need to lift up the phone or press the side power button dont know it seems pretty annoying for me.
i had a doogee f5 great phone but i use more double tap to wake then a finger print scanner i mostly turned it off cause i hate passwords only use it when im not at home. but soo yeah without double tape to wake this xiaomi is a no for me every 'f:iking chinees phone has double tap to wake even 50$ ones
why can't a 160euro xiaomi have it ilove xiaomi it's quality but yeah no 800mhz 4g and no double tap. if it had double tap to wake i could consider buying it.
so no rom has it implanted? or some one made it?
Seriously! I have redmi note 3 and i miss this feature a lot, even just to read notifications i need to hold up the phone and press power button or fingerprint scanner. Now many would argue and say there are apps like active display/gravity screen/proximity sensors but they all consume some amount of battery. Also these apps would be user apps, not system ones and so would be killed by miui Aggressive battery saver mode.
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Seriously! I have redmi note 3 and i miss this feature a lot, even just to read notifications i need to hold up the phone and press power button or fingerprint scanner. Now many would argue and say there are apps like active display/gravity screen/proximity sensors but they all consume some amount of battery. Also these apps would be user apps, not system ones and so would be killed by miui Aggressive battery saver mode.
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Finally some one who understands.
Yes there are apps but all use proximity or something.
I just love double tap is so easy.
And my lg g3 is getting old and the g4 is a bit expensive and not much of a ungrade so im looking for a new phone but thats almost impossible to find someone better then my lg g3 for a good price
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Finally some one who understands.
Yes there are apps but all use proximity or something.
I just love double tap is so easy.
And my lg g3 is getting old and the g4 is a bit expensive and not much of a ungrade so im looking for a new phone but thats almost impossible to find someone better then my lg g3 for a good price
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I had posted this in miui forums, but got the same vague response. Even though mi4 and others had this feature, it's missing on note3. Everyone considers it redundant due to the fingerprint sensor at the back but to me it removing dt2w would have only made sense if the fingerprint sensor was on front. From the looks of it, guess xiaomi won't be adding this feature back anytime soon. Till then we could just hope that someone somewhere ports it rn3.
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I had posted this in miui forums, but got the same vague response. Even though mi4 and others had this feature, it's missing on note3. Everyone considers it redundant due to the fingerprint sensor at the back but to me it removing dt2w would have only made sense if the fingerprint sensor was on front. From the looks of it, guess xiaomi won't be adding this feature back anytime soon. Till then we could just hope that someone somewhere ports it rn3.
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Yup tell then i wont buy it... I mean it's a steal for its price but damn. It's a simple feature that every phone out of China has.... Damit.
And wierd the mi4 has it. (saw the miui forum reeded every page) snif guess the remdi note won't be my next phone or will it? hahaa
damit i love the battery life. and the 'openess' of xiaomi/miui with sources aviable etc. i think it will get some custom roms. even if miui is already great.
i can get used to no double tap but i will miss it... and still hope some one ou xiaomi will implant it.. the 4g b20 pff not sure if i really do care that much.
but can some one tell me how dark the lowest brightness is? is it lower then a lg g3? or is it lower then a oneplusone (lg g3 is pretty bright a 0% that's not always fun, oneplusone was great at 0% very dark)
I used fingerprint sensor to wakeup by second finger. I found it was excellent.
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We just need a kernel support for it if the dispaly pannel supports that gesture!
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We just need a kernel support for it if the dispaly pannel supports that gesture!
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just needs time.
there are more and more roms every day.
some one started on a kernel. (or something with kernel)
it will come.
i ordered the phone (again lol i bought it first a 163.50 euro and now its 155.96euro at a other seller) i tried to get my seller to drop the price or give me a flip cover. but he wouldnt. so i canceled. now just wait for it to ship finaly a fast phone again. after 6 months a oneplusone then exchanging that for a lg g3 2gb was a good deal but the lg is getter slower and slower i mean the apps are getting heavier and heavier i use greenify and **** for the facebook app. but messenger whatsapp snapchat arent greenified cause i need notifications lol
if i let that apps sleeps i will get a fast phone i think. love the lg g3 it's one year. but i want better battery life faster phone and no bull**** 2k screen to get less battery life
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just needs time.
there are more and more roms every day.
some one started on a kernel. (or something with kernel)
it will come.
i ordered the phone (again lol i bought it first a 163.50 euro and now its 155.96euro at a other seller) i tried to get my seller to drop the price or give me a flip cover. but he wouldnt. so i canceled. now just wait for it to ship finaly a fast phone again. after 6 months a oneplusone then exchanging that for a lg g3 2gb was a good deal but the lg is getter slower and slower i mean the apps are getting heavier and heavier i use greenify and **** for the facebook app. but messenger whatsapp snapchat arent greenified cause i need notifications lol
if i let that apps sleeps i will get a fast phone i think. love the lg g3 it's one year. but i want better battery life faster phone and no bull**** 2k screen to get less battery life
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You're right. Gonna get this device asap.
Tītan
In twrp recovery the screen wakes up by just tapping on screen in redmi note 3. I am using twrp cofface. That means the display can support double tap to wake up.
Hoping some developer start working on it soon.
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In twrp recovery the screen wakes up by just tapping on screen in redmi note 3.
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You are mistaken. Check again your screen before "tapping to wake". You will see that screen is still powered up, it just has backlight dimmed to very low value.
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You are mistaken. Check again your screen before "tapping to wake". You will see that screen is still powered up, it just has backlight dimmed to very low value.
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Just checked again in dark room. Clearly the screen is off. Also its not an amoled display that i can't figure out.
reggiexp said:
hi i like this phone but without double take to wake i wont buy it.
it doesnt have the 4g b20 800mhz. i could live with that.. but i really cant live without double tap to wake i have a lg g3. and every chinees phone i buy has it. so for me it's a standard
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Short answer that it's likely not.
If you'll look at in which models Xiaomi is used to implement this feature you'll notice it only appears for the (premium?) MI lineup models.
Redmi phones hasn't ever had this feature in Xiaomi OEM ROMs/kernels despite hardware support. So, it is unlikely that it will ever come to RMN3 Pro in OEM ROM.
However, should someone have implemented it in a custom kernel, it is rather simple task to make it available in the Settings app through a patch.
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Short answer that it's likely not.
If you'll look at in which models Xiaomi is used to implement this feature you'll notice it only appears for the (premium?) MI lineup models.
Redmi phones hasn't ever had this feature in Xiaomi OEM ROMs/kernels despite hardware support. So, it is unlikely that it will ever come to RMN3 Pro in OEM ROM.
However, should someone have implemented it in a custom kernel, it is rather simple task to make it available in the Settings app through a patch.
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we will see. not in a hury.
don't have the phone yet.
it's on it's way. will get used to no double tap to wake it will obligat me to use the fingerprint scanner always i hate passwords but what ever.
but it's stupid cause every cheap mediatek phone has double tap to wake and xiaomi nope, just a big middel finger but anyway it's a great phone for it's price (i hope)
Coming from the LG G2 I too miss this feature a lot!
Hate to pick the Note up to unlock it if its lying flat on the table....such a simple and essential feature
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Coming from the LG G2 I too miss this feature a lot!
Hate to pick the Note up to unlock it if its lying flat on the table....such a simple and essential feature
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Use Gravity Screen https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
Then just swipe over the proximity sensor and the screen turns on, no battery drain and you can disable/enable it with one tap in the status bar
Please note this is my first thread and not dwelling deep in to the techs of the phone.
Amazon kindly delivered my Xperia 10 Plus this morning and like a little child at Xmas, couldn't wait to unpack and power on.
Now my current status is I have been running on Xperia XZ Premium for last 18 months and decided to see what the deal is with the larger screen X10 plus.
First glance, it's tall, big a just a tad slimmer, suppose that'll be for the one hand use.
Installation of micro sd card and memory card a breeze and since I opted for the dual sim, the sim tray can handle 2 sims easily.
Pros
OS seems to be quicker but the boot up time isn't
Camera capture has improved compared to XZP and will need to check this tomorrow on daylight
The little widgets like side sense is a good way to use phone on handed
handset in one hand feels comfortable and very light but still purchased a case for the phone for the additional protection
Cons
Took a while to remove the google search bar on home screen as OS 9 seems to do this differently when it comes to removing (had to Google it)
Charging time does take a little longer in my experience but this could be down to battery care and stamina
You can't customise what screen is your home screen so if you have 3 screens, 1st screen is your home screen, This is issue for me since I like my icons/apps setup in a way makes to easier for me. Could possibly not be setting the home screen correctly
Had a strange issue with restore from my Google account and it placed two icons for each app downloaded so ended up factory reset and seems to resolve the issue
All in all, still early days as not much time to fiddle with the phone as I required to setup again and juggle the icons on home screen as sadly this didn't do on backup from old phone.
I'll add more comments when I have managed to play with the phone more.
Thanks.
Well, been a few days using the phone and so far had the following as issues or switched off.
1. Camera seems to crash twice on use where app opens but buttons doesn't respond until you have the crash notification. Albeit camera quality is very good compared to XZP.
2. Switched off the Swipe up on home button as it seemed to get messed up with me wanting to access all apps from swiping up from the bottom of phone.
3. As someone else mentioned before, games touch screen buttons not optimised as some games buttons are low right side and makes it very awkward to use when playing.
4. Couple of times you press an icon on app and doesn't seem to launch or takes a while to do anything. One app i remember is launching the messenger app for FB from the FB app. Did sod all and restarted handset to fix it.
I would take some quality pics but where I live is a bit trashy so nothing good atm and will wait for weather to improve.
Just hope others who have the same phone report on same issues for Sony to fix
anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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I think you need to open the Xperia Launcher settings. Just hold down your finger on one of the homescreens. The 2nd or 3rd option should give you the old navbar back
thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
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thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
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My bad it's in the display settings under advanced. "Swipe up on home button". Don't have my phone right now, had to send it in so i couldn't say for sure. Thought it was hidden quite well :/
perfect, thanks!
How's low light recording and pics ?
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
bellissimo.io said:
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
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Camera2 API Probe reported no.
I have no issues with my Sony Xperia 10 Plus after 4 months so far. It's fast and smooth in my use. I can take great pictures and videos. 21:9 experience is great and amazing!
How is battery life and sot?
I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
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I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
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Performance on XZ premium is better compared with Xperia 10 plus. Xperia 10 plus is sluggish en general use. I think there is a problem with the launcher optimization. The only way that i founded to acelerate the smartphone is to deactivating "Animations". After that, the Xperia 10 plus beahvior, results in a great performance, smooth. If you install a 3rd party launcher, the sluggish problem appears again. This phone definitively needs software optimization from Sony. I waiting android 10 fix this situation. I want to highlight that the sound quality from bluetooth is amazing, i thinl is better that xz premium, XZ2. I dont know if Sony increase the audio quality in this model.
I bought this phone yesterday from best buy and to me what a pile of junk, the screen just above the power button actually is separating from the plastic frame, I hear faint pop like sound and I start pressing on the edge of the screen I heard the sound again, on further inspection looks like the adhesive tape they must use to attach the screen to the frame is letting loose from the main frame, this thing is slow and very sluggish. I would advise people not to buy this phone, for the price..... you can buy a older flagship phone or even a oneplus 6t or 6 for less used and runs circles around this sony phone.
Bought a new european lg v30+ , the First 6 months have been trouble free, after that i noticed the phone selecting random things while scrolling through chrome or even settings (Also happens in safemode), it seems like it's lagging, i have 50 apps in total including the stock ones, no games.
If i hold de task switch button for example it starts rapidly switching apps like i'm tapping really really quickly.
Sometimes while typing it selects letters multiple times instead of once. I assume if it was a faulty digitizer this would happen all the time? Phone has always been in a rugged case, no screenprotector. It's running official android 8 which i upgraded through lg bridge. Already tried factory reset, did not help fix this issue
If you enable Developer Mode and access those settings you can enable the phone to show you touches. This will confirm the phantom touches in apps is coming from the operating system.
My guess is that you have some crud/dirt around the edge of the screen. Take it out of the case and give it a good clean with isopropyl alchohol, and run your fingernail along the edge with a tissue. I certainly have had similar behaviour at times on various phones if the screen gets a a bit grimy and resolved it with a good clean
Other than that is probably a faulty digitiser and might need to be replaced.
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Fisherman1 said:
If you enable Developer Mode and access those settings you can enable the phone to show you touches. This will confirm the phantom touches in apps is coming from the operating system.
My guess is that you have some crud/dirt around the edge of the screen. Take it out of the case and give it a good clean with isopropyl alchohol, and run your fingernail along the edge with a tissue. I certainly have had similar behaviour at times on various phones if the screen gets a a bit grimy and resolved it with a good clean
Other than that is probably a faulty digitiser and might need to be replaced.
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I did enable show touches in developer mode, sometimes i saw the phone suddenly not registering my finger while i never lifted it off the screen. I will try to give it a good clean. Screenshot i posted below should have been 1 continuously line, that's what the phone registers when it 'freaks' out. Could this be linked to the amount of ram available?
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This describes my issue perfectly. Forgot to mention: My phone has no physical damage at all