Nexus 6p vs S7 Edge from Iphone 6s Plus - Nexus 6P General

I used to be a rom/kernel flasher daily starting all the way back to Nexus One and Nexus S phones, but eventually jumped ship to the iPhone 5s after the absolute **** audio and build quality of the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 (which I still have factory plastic on).
Since then I have sold and bought the iPhone yearly using Swappa, and now that I am up to the iPhone 6s Plus, I am getting really bored of IOS again. I plan on still keeping my iPhone 6s Plus, but want a second phone to use intermittently when I sell it in July.
I tried windows phone for a day, and said nope, this blows. So my choice is between Nexus 6p and S7 Edge. While the edge hardware looks amazing, I always appreciated the direct from Google updates and the unlocked boot loaders of the Nexus. So here are my questions:
How is the build quality of 6p vs S7 Edge
Is the audio qulality of either phoneup to par with iPhone 6s Plus
Camera Quality Decent?
Are the Screen poorly calibrated still, and are there kernels for that currently
How usefull are the fingerprint readers on Android now?
Can you reccomend cloud apps for this phone to sync with my ipad pro?

dragas89 said:
I used to be a rom/kernel flasher daily starting all the way back to Nexus One and Nexus S phones, but eventually jumped ship to the iPhone 5s after the absolute **** audio and build quality of the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 (which I still have factory plastic on).
Since then I have sold and bought the iPhone yearly using Swappa, and now that I am up to the iPhone 6s Plus, I am getting really bored of IOS again. I plan on still keeping my iPhone 6s Plus, but want a second phone to use intermittently when I sell it in July.
I tried windows phone for a day, and said nope, this blows. So my choice is between Nexus 6p and S7 Edge. While the edge hardware looks amazing, I always appreciated the direct from Google updates and the unlocked boot loaders of the Nexus. So here are my questions:
How is the build quality of 6p vs S7 Edge
Is the audio qulality of either phoneup to par with iPhone 6s Plus
Camera Quality Decent?
Are the Screen poorly calibrated still, and are there kernels for that currently
How usefull are the fingerprint readers on Android now?
Can you reccomend cloud apps for this phone to sync with my ipad pro?
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Ans to your ques exactly with no further clarification or explanation
1. 6p feels premium no doubt and if you want more buy the gold one
S7 edge looks dope but due to glass on back fingerprint magnet and slippery like hell also durability less than 6p
2. S7 edge audio sucks really due to ip68 water resistant you can check youtube for that as well
6p front facing loud speakers easily comparable with boomsound from htc
I would say it's louder than 6s plus but less bass
3. Both cameras are good but hdr+ on s7edge is 0.25 second faster in real time usage * and its a software side of thing so you can use 3rd party apps
Also front camera of 6p is 8mp and 5 for edge
4. Edge has the best amoled panel
6p would be 3rd after s7/edge and note 5 Also kernels for edge? Really? Roms for edge really? Unlocked bootloaders really?
Thanks to touchwiz hardly any support for s7 s7 edge
Yes kernels rom for 6p damn it's a nexus!
Yes I'm using a color profile damn my display looks so better than others much cooler.
5. 6p has one of the fastest finger print touch to unlock still i would say a lil fast than edge and yes there are android pay you can use while rooted as well there is a work around
6. Not sure about this.
Cheers ?
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I just bought the 6P, after using an iPhone 6 plus for about a year and then the Galaxy Note 5 for a few weeks. Same as you, I have used various androids before the iPhone 6 launched with bigger screens (finally), but recently have missed the flexibility and power of Android. I think the build quality on the 6P is very good. But also considering the design, I think the order goes S7 > iPhone 6 > Nexus 6P. I say that because the attention to detail and materials used on the S7 is really a step above the iPhone. Both the S7 and iPhone have the gentle radius edge on the screen glass blending nicely into the chassis, the 6P does not (it's just flat). The 6P is nice, though, the aluminum feels nice and the chamfered edges look sharp. Reminiscent in appearance/style to the HTC One M7, I think. It also shares a similar (but not quite as bright) AMOLED screen with the Samsung offerings. But you should stop into a store to see the S7/S7 edge to see for yourself.
Is the audio qulality of either phoneup to par with iPhone 6s Plus
I think audio quality on 6P is just fine, the stereo front firing speakers are quite nice.. everything else I'm doing through Bluetooth, all sounds good.
Camera Quality Decent?
Photo quality on 6P is very good, better than iPhone according to DXOmark... But video quality not as good. S7 and Edge have the best camera of any smartphone on the market according to them.
Are the Screen poorly calibrated still, and are there kernels for that currently
I think the AMOLED screens on both the 6P and S7 are fantastic, better than any LCD option available. I haven't used tools to measure the technical merits of its color accuracy, but others have. To my eyes the screens are excellent. Apple needs to switch to AMOLED.
How usefull are the fingerprint readers on Android now?
The fingerprint reader on the 6P is excellent, better than the iPhone 6. The reader on my note 5 was not as good as the iPhone's, it would frequently fail and tell me to try again... I've heard it's improved on S7 but no personal experience. In terms of usefulness, you can unlock the phone obviously, but I can also use it to purchase apps in Play store, authorize android pay (and/or Samsung pay on S7), and log into PayPal. iOS is further ahead with 3rd party apps though, for example more banking apps on iOS have it integrated vs their android counterparts. I expect this will get more equal though as Marshmallow penetration expands with the S7 and G5 becoming available.
Can you reccomend cloud apps for this phone to sync with my ipad pro?
Guess it depends on what you want to sync. Google native apps sync pretty seamlessly across platforms.
The stock Marshmallow experience on the 6P is worth highlighting as another advantage. I wish Samsung would let you buy a Google Edition of their S7, free of all their extra software and carrier bloat. That's really the biggest negative in my opinion to the S7, and you can't do anything about it with its locked bootloader.

You don't buy a nexus for the build quality you buy a nexus because its a nexus and runs vanilla android and you can use android SDK and ROMs and kernels run 100 tines better than on other devices. Comparing two completely different world's IMO. And I wouldn't spend a penny on Samsung. I like choices and ROMs that run with no bugs. That's what I buy nexus and have since G1 and a few flagships along the way and never liked them as much as my nexus phones. It all depends what your looking for really. 6p is my favorite phone of all time. I'm a nexus kinda guy.
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the premium quality of the 6P is up to par with anything Apple can offer... so that to me is not a problem
Software to me should be a big priority... yes apple pushes updates fast, but so do the nexus (nexi?) with monthly updates now keeping you with latest sec patches, i say go with 6P over the S7 even tho its a great phone by all means.

Went for 6p when I saw Franco Kernel is still around, which blew my mind. Got it in gold off amazon, this phone is very nice! And this finger print reader kicks ass. Can you suggest any roms?

dragas89 said:
Went for 6p when I saw Franco Kernel is still around, which blew my mind. Got it in gold off amazon, this phone is very nice! And this finger print reader kicks ass. Can you suggest any roms?
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Pure nexus rom with no doubt
Cheers ?
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dragas89 said:
I used to be a rom/kernel flasher daily starting all the way back to Nexus One and Nexus S phones, but eventually jumped ship to the iPhone 5s after the absolute **** audio and build quality of the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 (which I still have factory plastic on).
Since then I have sold and bought the iPhone yearly using Swappa, and now that I am up to the iPhone 6s Plus, I am getting really bored of IOS again. I plan on still keeping my iPhone 6s Plus, but want a second phone to use intermittently when I sell it in July.
I tried windows phone for a day, and said nope, this blows. So my choice is between Nexus 6p and S7 Edge. While the edge hardware looks amazing, I always appreciated the direct from Google updates and the unlocked boot loaders of the Nexus. So here are my questions:
How is the build quality of 6p vs S7 Edge
Is the audio qulality of either phoneup to par with iPhone 6s Plus
Camera Quality Decent?
Are the Screen poorly calibrated still, and are there kernels for that currently
How usefull are the fingerprint readers on Android now?
Can you reccomend cloud apps for this phone to sync with my ipad pro?
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I'm just going to reply to 6)
Are you just talking about storage? In that case I'd use OneDrive! It exists for iPad Pro now:
http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/19/micro...pdated-w-ipad-pro-apple-pencil-optimizations/
Also, if you get the s7 you will get 115gb FREE for 2 years! on the other hand, you can also get this by simply logging into a onedrive account in a store on either s6, note 5, or s7 phone, and turning on camera uploads, then signing out again. I did this and have the 115gb free!

I think others have given a fair representation of the 6P vs the competition so I won't elaborate on that.
But... I will give my 2 cents on ROM's + kernel combo. IMHO, you absolutely can not beat the stability and battery life/performance of Uberstock ROM and Kylo kernel. Uberstock is pretty much an optimized stock AOSP ROM, so if you want more ROM settings flash xposed and install gravity box. I've been running this setup for several months. While I've tried other ROMs that were favorites with my Nexus 6 (Shamu), I keep going back to the setup listed above as it just makes this device the way Google should have sent it from the factory. Good luck with your choice!

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Sold my S3 and now looking for an upgrade

Hi guys, I just sold my S3 LTE , as I cracked the screen and didn't want to repair it. I was looking for upgrade before that, so now the time has come.
I need a device that is a bit more rugged, not necessarily waterproof and so on... I read that the S4 is even more fragile though.
Anyway. I'd really love a high end device, so I don't have to upgrade it for the next 2 years.
I don't play games but do a lot of browsing, emailing and other work related stuff. I have good cameras so the camera on the phone just needs to be OK, but It should bebetter than the S3. I'm now using an iphone 5 and while it's a marelously well build and fast, I'm not quite sure I could deal with it's quirks. I've been on Android for almost 6 years, so you get what I mean.
I'm looking at :
LG G2 16GB
LG Nexus 5 16GB
Galaxy S4
Huaiwei Ascend P6
HTC ONE
Anything else you might recommend, except for Sony...
axlastro said:
Hi guys, I just sold my S3 LTE , as I cracked the screen and didn't want to repair it. I was looking for upgrade before that, so now the time has come.
I need a device that is a bit more rugged, not necessarily waterproof and so on... I read that the S4 is even more fragile though.
Anyway. I'd really love a high end device, so I don't have to upgrade it for the next 2 years.
I don't play games but do a lot of browsing, emailing and other work related stuff. I have good cameras so the camera on the phone just needs to be OK, but It should bebetter than the S3. I'm now using an iphone 5 and while it's a marelously well build and fast, I'm not quite sure I could deal with it's quirks. I've been on Android for almost 6 years, so you get what I mean.
I'm looking at :
LG G2 16GB
LG Nexus 5 16GB
Galaxy S4
Huaiwei Ascend P6
HTC ONE
Anything else you might recommend, except for Sony...
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LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
Havoc-X said:
LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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I really like the One too, but can you give some more details why would you choose it. And with the new model just around the corner - I'm no sure. I'm interested in the N5 too, bu tI'm put off by the small-ish battery
Friend of mine has the current One, played with it quite a bit. Its just everything i would want in a phone. Its really well made, fits very comfortably in your hand. I'm a fan of IPS LCD over AMOLED. Operations are much smoother and faster than Samsung. Blinkfeed is awesome (for me personally) and you have all the freedom of Android with a very good display incased in a very good body. Also i dont really need crap like airwave and air gesture, in fact, since 4.3 my smart stay barely works.
The One is just my personal choice, i think its the most balance between design, UI and performance. LG G2 isnt far behind. If you going to go with the One, u might as well wait for the new one. If you dont plan to get the new one, i'd probably go the G2 over the Old 1. The Snapdragon 800 will last u much longer than the 600 in the One (2013 edition) The G2 has IPS LCD as well and is very very fast. Only thing lacking is the aluminum body and blinkfeed. Also LG has a pretty good multi-tasking interface, it opens small windows of apps. I suggest you Check out YouTube for the G2.
Depending on how much you want to wait, you should definitely also consider the oppo find 7. This phone's a beauty in my eyes. Specs are great too.
Another interesting phone is the oneplus one with cm. Its going to be 5.5inch with the size of a 5 inch sony z1, qualcomm s800 and its supposed to cost less than 400$. Too bad that there arent any real pics yet and the release is going to be somewhere in Q2 of 2014. So, it can be 1 month or almost 3 :<
I would suggest you go for the All New HTC One or the Xperia Z2 ...both of the devices r going to hit the shelves with in weeks !!
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techno-np said:
I would suggest you go for the All New HTC One or the Xperia Z2 ...both of the devices r going to hit the shelves with in weeks !!
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I'm not buying a Sony, that's for sure. The htc one is another thing, but I'm afraid it will be quite expensive at launch, at least that's the way it is where I live. The way I see things is I have two options - get the G2 now or wait for the M8, hoping it won't be THAT expensive
Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
Havoc-X said:
LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
gsw5700 said:
Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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Not an option. I'm getting a device from a local carrier, and they don't have oppo.
gsw5700 said:
Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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Mafioso said:
Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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The only reason I'm not sure I want the S4 is that it's deemed even more fragile than the S3. It's slower chipset is also a bit of a disadvantage.
I can get the qualcomm version, so yes - vanilla OS is possible.
As for the G2 - it's awesome and I don't think storage will be that much of an issue. The HTC one is also an option, but the same as S4 - slower chiset and I hera the camera just sucks, but I have a DSLR and a mirrorless camera so I'm not going to expect much from a phone camera anyway. I'm using the iphone 5 now and while typing on it is a real pain, the size is really nice refresh fromthe huge slate the S3 was. I really miss the huge screen though.
The whole thing is quite complicated, as my wife has the RAZR I, but wants an Iphone, so I got one to test it out while waiting for my next android, and I actually like it a lot but the battery is basically on par with the S3, but the screen.... it's so small. It's superior when it comes to actally using it as a phone.
Which one of these handsets is most durable when dropped? I think the g2 would have a bad time due to edge to edge design.
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axlastro said:
Which one of these handsets is most durable when dropped? I think the g2 would have a bad time due to edge to edge design.
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iphone 5s for durability.
For me:
1-Note 3
2-Sony Z2
3-Iphone 5s
4-S4
This year I am leaving my S3 also and this is the list of devices I am targeting of buying from !!
I will get one of these bad boys --->
1. Note 3 (appealing in every aspect)
2. HTC ONE 2014 (has microSD card support)
3. Xperia Z2 (Sony really stepping up their game)
4. iPhone 6 (a really good phone for basic telephony)
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I recommend nexus & S4 from the point of view of a good battery and high specs and features, Also the nexus 5 has good feature which is wireless charging, The S4 has higher features than the nexus as usual samsung strikes with stunning technology.
-Mina
I am getting a new phone in two months. Got an S3 now. This is my top choices :
1. Note 3
2. Xperia Z2
3 HTC one (2014)
4. S5
Very difficult to choose
I'm between n5 s4 and g2 for now...
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Mafioso said:
Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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i know a few people with S4's, both versions. They both completely suck. In all honesty, the design isnt that bad, it looks very similar to the s3 but the feeling is alot better. However, Samsungs OS skin just down right fails. The ui is laggy, and please dont say theres no lag. i dont know how people dont notice this crap. The UI lags. Maybe the galaxy s4 google play edition, is a viable option.
There is literally nothing that the S4 has over its competitors. If you compare it to the HTC one (2013), then really, the One beats it hands down. You really dont need crap like the air wave.
SGH-m819n galaxy mega running the megafire v5 rom. Ive had two people literally sell their note3 after seeing how big and fast my phone is. 60 dollar truly unlimited unthrottled LTE data on tmobiles network though metro is a pretty nice perk, too.

Is there any phone that even comes close to our Nexus 6P?!

Hey all,
Like some other fellow Nexus 6P users here I'm sure you are getting curious of what other phones are out there, that can please our every geeky need.
But I just can't fine one - everything I want is in this phone!
I have been looking around but yet I always keep drawing up a pro's and con's list in my mind and can't help but sum up the 6P as having:
- Great battery life (once tweaked accordingly)
- Dual speakers
- Perfect display
- Fast and reliable
- Great size
- Access to latest Google updates
- Great camera (the best I've had on a smartphone)
- Etc.
Though despite all this, the desire to at least 'window-shop' and look around for the next greatest phone is still there. The new Xiaomi Mi Mix looks interesting, as I feel like I could go bigger on the screen size. Same with the Phab 2 Pro, the 6.4" size appeals to me but then seemingly I'd lose out on the great camera (low light especially) and the dual speakers.
Anyways I thought I'd start a thread to hear some other opinions on this, if any other released/to be released phone has almost got you swayed into parting with the beloved...
Sorry
But calling Nexus 6p screen perfect
That's weard
The screen is ****
Really old AMOLED with bad colours
Coming from a 2013 Droid MAXX, the screen is perfect for me. Guess for someone coming from a Samsung Galaxy would feel differently.. but yes, this phone is just about perfect. I especially like the camera's low light capabilities.
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Haha.. glad to see I'm not the only one who looking for another phone but hard to decide bc I too love my 6P.
Been thinking of the One plus 3 not really a upgrade but something different but waiting on the One plus 4 . But it's gotta have good Dev support and the One plus definitely has that.
But still looking at others as well.. undecided bc my 6P has been a perfect fit for what I like in a phone :/
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I too am pretty dang content with my 6P, esp. with some of the "Pixel exclusive" features we've gotten
However, I won't deny that the 4GB/821 specs inside the Pixel XL are tempting at times...but I'm thinking I'll either get my wife a normal Pixel to upgrade her GS6 edge and wait to get myself whatever comes out next year, or just wait on both of us till then. I'm not as against the Pixel as some, but I'll admit that $870 (+ tax) for a 128GB, similarly-sized phone is a bit of a tough pill to swallow for me personally lol
I had the pixel for a a few days and returned it because the price difference to performance from the 6p felt negligible to me. 7.1.1 on the 6p fixed a lot of quirks I had and flashing the pixel stuff over made me more than content to keep the 6p thru this year. Looking forward to seeing what HTC has in store for their next flagship.
rowihel2012 said:
Sorry
But calling Nexus 6p screen perfect
That's weard
The screen is ****
Really old AMOLED with bad colours
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Hmm then it is a shame that we have such diffeent experiences with this phone - the colours, for me, are perfect - no tweaking of them required. The blacks are black with no 'bleeding'. Absolutely great for me...
Johnny Wong said:
Coming from a 2013 Droid MAXX, the screen is perfect for me. Guess for someone coming from a Samsung Galaxy would feel differently.. but yes, this phone is just about perfect. I especially like the camera's low light capabilities.
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Yup the low light camera is literally the best I've had. Very consistently impresses me, even still to this day!
ohlin5 said:
I too am pretty dang content with my 6P, esp. with some of the "Pixel exclusive" features we've gotten
However, I won't deny that the 4GB/821 specs inside the Pixel XL are tempting at times...but I'm thinking I'll either get my wife a normal Pixel to upgrade her GS6 edge and wait to get myself whatever comes out next year, or just wait on both of us till then. I'm not as against the Pixel as some, but I'll admit that $870 (+ tax) for a 128GB, similarly-sized phone is a bit of a tough pill to swallow for me personally lol
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Indeed, that price tag is a hefty one and one that I cannot justify spending.... at least not yet anyway. I would miss the larger screen and the speakers, being the real tangible difference. Like you say, features have/will come our way with software updates, but I really do appreciate a great sound and nice sized display - yet to find this elsewhere though!!?
The "bezel-less" Xiaomi Mi MIX does look like a nice phone. So that may tick the box of size, but would the screen quality be as nice? And the speakers? And the low light camera capabilities?? Not sure on that one...
The Huawei Honor Note 8 looks good too, very big screen which I think I'd like, but overall just don't think I'd be as happy as I am now.....
Dam restlessness eh!!
I'm definitely glad I went with the 6p also. I don't mind spending the money upgrading. Was looking at note 7 or iPhone 7 plus. But the price for the Pixel xl to me I couldn't do. I just can't put the Pixel in the same category as the other phones.
rowihel2012 said:
Sorry
But calling Nexus 6p screen perfect
That's weard
The screen is ****
Really old AMOLED with bad colours
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lol do you own a Nexus 6P? The display is the exact same as the Galaxy S7 screen. They only difference is the S7 screen is set a few nits brighter. Deep blacks, vibrant popping colors and great contrast. Maybe you have sRBG turned on for "true colors"? If not maybe you just have a sub-standard quality display on your phone.
there is no doubt to the nexus 6p is good device but not the best in my opinion! maybe so hard to believe but my ex device (htc M8-32 g) is far better! at the least for me!
here is some reason: I've multi rom with 3 base of Android (kitkat/lollipop/Marshmallow) and switch between the without any issues. (sense rom, google play or CM base rom doesn't matter! all of them work perfect!)but if this don't convince you let me tell you the custom sense rom developers in htc really perfect (most definitely the Viper rom of Venom groups plus insertcoin roms and sky dragon roms) having too dozens options for customize and in the end better quality of speakers and headphones sounds and have a great sound batch like Harman/Kardon sound batch and no come up short in battery even with a smaller size of battery and too smooth without any lag. may rest in peace my dear M8! ??
sure I know the nexus 6p's camera to far better than M8 but I'm not a mobile camera user and need very rarely to it
however I like my nexus 6p and one of the best device I'd
sorry for my bad english-noob language
Azathoth6 said:
there is no doubt to the nexus 6p is good device but not the best in my opinion! maybe so hard to believe but my ex device (htc M8-32 g) is far better! at the least for me!
here is some reason: I've multi rom with 3 base of Android (kitkat/lollipop/Marshmallow) and switch between the without any issues. (sense rom, google play or CM base rom doesn't matter! all of them work perfect!)but if this don't convince you let me tell you the custom sense rom developers in htc really perfect (most definitely the Viper rom of Venom groups plus insertcoin roms and sky dragon roms) having too dozens options for customize and in the end better quality of speakers and headphones sounds and have a great sound batch like Harman/Kardon sound batch and no come up short in battery even with a smaller size of battery and too smooth without any lag. may rest in peace my dear M8! ����
sure I know the nexus 6p's camera to far better than M8 but I'm not a mobile camera user and need very rarely to it
however I like my nexus 6p and one of the best device I'd
sorry for my bad english-noob language
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That phone does look like a nice one for its time, there's nothing wrong in holding love still for such a device! I'm in the same love for the 6P right now, for me, the best its been ever for a mobile device. But as theres only so many roms to try, my flashoholic nature starts wanting to wander into the 'next device' territory......whatever that may be haha
I'm keeping an eye on the Huawei Mate 9 Pro up coming announcement November 4th...
nuwayman said:
I'm definitely glad I went with the 6p also. I don't mind spending the money upgrading. Was looking at note 7 or iPhone 7 plus. But the price for the Pixel xl to me I couldn't do. I just can't put the Pixel in the same category as the other phones.
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The Pixel XL is the same price as the iPhone 7 Plus. It may not be worth the money to some but it is the best Android phone to date. The 6p is great I still have mine but the Pixel XL is fantastic. If you like Android and could spend the money on an iPhone 7 Plus but not the Pixel XL. You need to get your hands on one and play with it. If you can get a 6p cheap it is hard to beat for the money.
galaxys said:
I'm keeping an eye on the Huawei Mate 9 Pro up coming announcement November 4th...
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Ahaaaaa, now then this looks like a good phone!! Hadn't seen this in my researching...Stereo speakers, dual camera, larger display...... hmmm I shall definitely be keeping an eye on this also - many thanks for highlighting this one!
Update: maybe even tomorrow we'll find out...
http://www.bgr.in/news/huawei-mate-9-to-launch-tomorrow-heres-everything-we-know-so-far/
rowihel2012 said:
Sorry
But calling Nexus 6p screen perfect
That's weard
The screen is ****
Really old AMOLED with bad colours
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If you are into rooting/modding, you can easily fix this with a custom kernal to your liking.
Answer the op. Nothing beats Huawei mate 8(soon 9) when it comes to overall phone but you have other issues to deal with. While im waiting for the Mate 9 to release and after I broke my Mate 8 I had to find a phone to hold me over.
Nexus 6p
Lg v10 and maybe g3./4
Note 5 but doesnt have enough storage for me.
Couple of other chinese phones but you lose lte most of the time.
Nothing really unless you want baby note aka s6/s7 edge.
For my personal taste, maybe axon 7 if the community is behind it. Note 7 if that whole thing didnt happen.
edit- If an updated version of the 6p ever released with half the top/bottom bezels, It would be the goat. Any htc is not in the same realm as 6p
My 6P battery was degraded. I think to change to another phone.
But I still finding...... :silly::silly::silly:
Sorry but the Nexus/Google phones have one thing that will keep me....Project Fi with CDMA-GSM LTE Switching. No other phone can do it because the software just isn't there.
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lol do you own a Nexus 6P? The display is the exact same as the Galaxy S7 screen. They only difference is the S7 screen is set a few nits brighter. Deep blacks, vibrant popping colors and great contrast. Maybe you have sRBG turned on for "true colors"? If not maybe you just have a sub-standard quality display on your phone.
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Samsung devices have a "SUPER AMOLED" and the difference is noticeable. I came from a note 4 (2014 release) to a nexus 6p(2015 release) and I saw the difference in screen right away. Nothing beats a Samsung Galaxy screen, even if the nexus uses a Samsung amoled screen. I can barely see anything on this screen in the sun, which was never a problem for my note 4. Other than that, nexus 6p is a solid device.. I got it for $330 for the 64gb gold. I probably wouldn't have paid more than $350 for this device thou. Definitely feels like a downgrade from my 1 year older note 4 (sadly I broke it).
Coming from a lg v10 I was decided between a lg v20 and this phone so I bought the 32gb 6p then I'm like ok this phone is awesome but I had one problem. Internal storage was only 25gb on the 32gb variant I filled it up within a week or two then I'm like ok great phone I'm getting 128gb. I bought my fiance the lg v20 it is a awesome but the roms available for the Nexus 6p is way better than the lg v10 or 20 I had the lg v10 before this 6p. The difference is amazing, the lg v10 was slower and couldn't even keep up with me.
The only thing better than the 6p is a 6p with 12hrs SOT

nexus 6p vs s7 edge - google updates + future roms

Hello everyone,
I would like some opinions coz i'm about to buy one of the title's phones.
In my country there is a difference in price about 50 euros between 6p and s7 edge but that's not a matter to me.
I do care about developing apps on android and i do care about every possible update by google.
I would like also to have better support on roms/kernels and stuff in the future
Google stops guaranteed updates on 6p - September 2017
What is gonna be the advantage of having a nexus device after it?
Is it still possible to find better support + custom roms for 6p instead of s7 after September?
Thanks a lot
I considered the Edge, an year ago, when I bought my 6P. But I wanted a larger and bigger screen and the edge just wouldn't cut it.
Check the S7 edge forums to see how it is the development, but at this stage and considering its still somewhat a recent device, theres naturally less roms and development support (also due the fact this is a nexus which makes development much easier).
If a bigger screen and development arent so important for you, I'd say it's a good phone, I have friends that own it and are happy with it.
I have my 6P for more than a year. If I could go back I would not get the 6P and wait to take the S7 Edge. There are plenty of ROMs available for S7 Edge and also more diversity in them. I mean that the ROMs here for the 6P are basically all the same(don't everyone rush to correct me. I know they come with a lot of extras, but they are basically an extra menu and no so much or no at all changes in the Android user exp). I miss the opportunity to have the choice to try some more "exotic" options like MIUI(there is MIUI rom in the forums, but it's dead and with lots of bugs so... don't count it), ColorOS and stuff like this.
And also the S7 Edge has wireless charging, ip68 and microSD support. I really miss the SD(I came from Note 3). I am tired of cleaning up when shooting some high res videos or pics :/
And also the camera on S7 Edge is considered one of the best or maybe the best till date.
This is my subjective oppinion ofc.
Check the S7 Edge forum to see what development looks like.
As far as Nexus phones go, my Nexus 5 (2013) is running Nougat just fine right now.
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I have my 6P for more than a year. If I could go back I would not get the 6P and wait to take the S7 Edge. There are plenty of ROMs available for S7 Edge and also more diversity in them. I mean that the ROMs here for the 6P are basically all the same(don't everyone rush to correct me. I know they come with a lot of extras, but they are basically an extra menu and no so much or no at all changes in the Android user exp). I miss the opportunity to have the choice to try some more "exotic" options like MIUI(there is MIUI rom in the forums, but it's dead and with lots of bugs so... don't count it), ColorOS and stuff like this.
And also the S7 Edge has wireless charging, ip68 and microSD support. I really miss the SD(I came from Note 3). I am tired of cleaning up when shooting some high res videos or pics :/
And also the camera on S7 Edge is considered one of the best or maybe the best till date.
This is my subjective oppinion ofc.
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I understand what you mean, and that is the "problem" with nexus devices, all roms are CAF/AOSP based with little support for third party roms like MIUI and ColorOS and all that stuff.
Looking back 5 years ago we could find those roms for lot's of devices, now I think things are getting more "stricter" in that sense.
But hey, I got a 6P exactly for this so.. while all "aosp/caf" look alike, they are so damn smooth and functional!
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I understand what you mean, and that is the "problem" with nexus devices, all roms are CAF/AOSP based with little support for third party roms like MIUI and ColorOS and all that stuff.
Looking back 5 years ago we could find those roms for lot's of devices, now I think things are getting more "stricter" in that sense.
But hey, I got a 6P exactly for this so.. while all "aosp/caf" look alike, they are so damn smooth and functional!
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I hardly doubt someone buys a nexus and thinks "hey, I'd love a MIUI on my phone". Hahaha.
I was in the same position when I finally decided to go with 6P. In terms of hardware, I think S7 Edge is a superior phone with a better battey life (except for the camera which I think 6P's much better especially in lowlight and with HDR+).
However, in terms of rom development and software support, S7 Edge is really lagging behind. Not to mention with most of these vendors such as Samsung, Sony, etc., when you switch to another custom rom, you lose the camera quality and many other exclusive functions available only on their own official roms. Thus, I think only nexus phones (which sadly have come to an end) and now oneplus phones should be your choice when custom roms and fast updates are your thing!
I my own opinion, the S7 Edge isn't better than the 6P. The two are a very good photo-phone. I think the 6P is slightly better than the S7 in low light environment and use HDR+ like a charm.
Remember that the S7 Edge is newer than the 6P with release date 6 month after the 6P. I love the 6P for the multimedia experience with the 2 speakers in front of the phone with a really better immersion when you are watching movies or playing games.
When you buy a Pure android phone, it's for developpement purpose or to have a phone with an OS as clear as possible isn't ?
If you want an exotic ROM, buy an exotic phone
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I my own opinion, the S7 Edge isn't better than the 6P. The two are a very good photo-phone. I think the 6P is slightly better than the S7 in low light environment and use HDR+ like a charm.
Remember that the S7 Edge is newer than the 6P with release date 6 month after the 6P. I love the 6P for the multimedia experience with the 2 speakers in front of the phone with a really better immersion when you are watching movies or playing games.
When you buy a Pure android phone, it's for developpement purpose or to have a phone with an OS as clear as possible isn't ?
If you want an exotic ROM, buy an exotic phone
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The front speakers on 6P are like every phone should have them, no doubt. I don't know how the vendors did not learn already this and are still putting them on the sides or even back. This is great plus!
For the low light... I guess it is arguable. I have a friend with S7 edge, and I have to admit, he got better ones than me. :/
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I understand what you mean, and that is the "problem" with nexus devices, all roms are CAF/AOSP based with little support for third party roms like MIUI and ColorOS and all that stuff.
Looking back 5 years ago we could find those roms for lot's of devices, now I think things are getting more "stricter" in that sense.
But hey, I got a 6P exactly for this so.. while all "aosp/caf" look alike, they are so damn smooth and functional!
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Yep, with the old nexus-es I had, I got to try all kinds of stuff. And this was the best, since you get some unique ROMs and some of them match to your liking. Now - not the case anymore. :/
And for all of the guys who comment bad about the more unknown and distant ROMs(most chinese), I think they get their knowledge by just reading some articles and watching videos or maybe some old experience.
For example - I still have my Galaxy Note 3 with latest MIUI 8(all s-pen , camera mods and other stuff works perfectly). It is just as fast as my 6P and it is 2013 phone.
Now there are only few phones(at least from the late flagships) that you have the opportunity to try quite a number of totally different ROMs in terms of overall expirience.
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I hardly doubt someone buys a nexus and thinks "hey, I'd love a MIUI on my phone". Hahaha.
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It depends, it wasn't my first reason obviously, AOSP above all, but for who used MIUI before and enjoyed it, one can only wonder
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I considered the Edge, an year ago, when I bought my 6P. But I wanted a larger and bigger screen and the edge just wouldn't cut it.
Check the S7 edge forums to see how it is the development, but at this stage and considering its still somewhat a recent device, theres naturally less roms and development support (also due the fact this is a nexus which makes development much easier).
If a bigger screen and development arent so important for you, I'd say it's a good phone, I have friends that own it and are happy with it.
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The s7 edge screen is only .2 inches smaller (it's 5.5 inches) and due to having no on screen buttons you wouldn't notice.
That being said, I had the s6 edge. Camera, screen and build quality were much better with the edge. It really is a sexy phone imo.
The lack of updates got to me though, and since the s6 was exynos there were no ROMs. The s7 edge has a snapdragon so development would be much better no doubt. I would get the s7 for sure

Is the Note 8 worth it?

I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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Note 8.... Enough said.
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I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I agree 100%, like when I had to 'settle' for an s7edge after owning a Note7, there was no comparison. The Notes have always been superior in my mind...
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I was in the same boat as you. Treated myself to Note8 and never looked back. The display is absolutely breathtaking and that in itself is a unique selling point for me. Even though i have been using the phone for almost 2 weeks now, everytime i look at the display, it takes my breath away. S pen is a hit or a miss for me. It's not the practicalities which stop me from using it. More like, i forget it's there ?.
Also, this is my first Android phone which i will not be rooting. Samsung pay has spoilt me.
I've had s8n, s8+ and note 8...ill take the s pen and 6 gb of ram... My. S8+ always got 5.5 hours screen time, note Rarely over 4.5...note for the win
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I have not looked back since my note 2
ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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This literally has nothing to do with this thread topic. The OP is questioning why reviewers don't seem to value the key differences between the S8+ and the Note8, which is baffling to us Note8 users.
I agree with you, OP. I wouldn't even buy an S8+. For me right now, if I wasn't allowed to buy this phone, it'd be the Pixel XL 2 or LG V30. Only after those being taken away as options would I consider the S8+. This phone having the RAM boost for unparalleled multi-tasking ability and the s-pen are HUGE differences. If the s-pen was a modular add-on for any phone, I'd always buy it and I'd probably pay $200 for the s-pen abilities. So the gap in price between the S8+ and Note 8 is easily worth it to me.
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ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
I dont see the point in comparing apples with oranges? I see these reviews and most of them baffle me.
There are four superb Samsung Galaxy S8 series mobiles, the 8, 8+ the (forgot the bloomin name) and the Note. All four have there market share, all four serve a given need and they are not comparable.
Identical situation with cars. Merc class C will come in coupe, saloon and cabriolet even more types.... One is not better than the other all are good cars and all will serve their niche in the market.
I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series. Not my fault don't shoot the messenger. We own a particular type, brand and style of mobile that's unique in this marker sector. As for comparing the Note 8 with non Android mobiles such as Windows and IOS it becomes even more absurd.
I find the note range in the past few iterations to be fabulous micro PC's. Incredible devices and those who don't make use of that S-pen are truly missing the point. The S-pen is not the cherry on the top its the cake. :good:
Ryland :highfive:
The Note8 is worth the extra money all day. I can not wait to see the Note9?
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I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
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I'm past troubleshooting roms.Samsung has matured to the point where root hurts more than it helps. I'll keep my Samsung pay and stable OS. Tethered to a Frontier,Samsung ecosystem is decades ahead of the competition.
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I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series.
Ryland :highfive:
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For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..
I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
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For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..
I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
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I hear you loud and clear. :highfive:
Your last sentence is where we differ. I am unsure how one can write that no mobile is worth 1k€? I know its an awful lot of cash and I know it makes ones eyes water BUT in the case of the Note 8 have you any idea how complex this mobile is to design then produce? The R&D must cost tens of millions alone. Write a list of the accomplishments the Note 8 covers and its incredible.
In way of comparison. in 2000 my Toshiba Satellite 2800-100 lap top cost 1,500.00€. Celeron 650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb sdram ram memory. It weighed about 3kg. In 2000 it was cutting edge technology! 17 years later we have micro engineered a device that is just chalk and cheese in terms of value, cost and tech'.
In 1989 my NEC 11A 'mobile phone' cost £320.00(?) and only made and answered calls and wow was each call expensive. Its relative and accept it or not over the years the technology has developed at break neck pace yet the prices have dropped.
I paid last year for the Note 7 887.00€ (twice, enough on that already). This year I paid 1,020.00€! That's a rise of 133.00€ in 12 months to maintain this cutting edge technology. Does the Note 8 warrant that 133.00€ price increase? I would say without a doubt yes but it is subjective and open to debate. :good:
In theory by 2020 we could be looking to pay for the Note 11 1,500.00€ or more! Goodness knows when this technology will level out and reach a point where totally new technology will reach a plateau? For sure unless the science of battery power changes the next generation of uber mobiles may only function for an hour sans a recharge or be the size of my 1989 NEC 11A!
The Note series started a revolution in the mobile market. I recall when it hit the stores there was hardly a positive review as most reviewers said the device was too big and the trend would never catch on and indeed I DID feel self conscious when using the Note 1 in public. The rest is history.
Now if you truly desire a debate on the value of a device talk Apple. There latest iPhone 8 is a literal disgrace in 'modern technology' and the price -v- value is absurd by any standards. The iPhone 8+ is a better buy but still lags behind the rest yet millions and millions buy them? I suspect just for the brand? That's crazy. :silly:
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I think that all those videos or articles about questioning if the note 8 is worth the money it costs over the s8 or v30, etc. Are simply based on the fact that the authors of such videos or articles do not really apreciate what a samsung galaxy note is ! I believe that most of us that love the s pen features and "boxy" body style , will NEVER look back to any other s pen less phone
If the PEN means nothing to you.. get the S8+. me .. I LOVE the PEN!
I had a note 1 and 2, and a 4, then got tired of touch jizz, and moved on to other stuff; got a note 8 after being bored with my mate 9 pro, and realizing the nexus 6 was long in the tooth..
As far as 1000 being too much for a phone, I spent many years in the consumer electronics marketplace, and I know the more the technology matures, the lower costs actually go; not that I expect ANY electronics mfg to lower prices on newer models, although if you look at t he prices of 4k tv's now, versus 3 years ago, you will understand what I mean about costs to produce dropping as time goes by; the reason phone mfgs keep raising prices is to keep consumers thinking their phones have newer and greater stuff in them every year, but, believe me, the cost to mfg these phones either stays stable or goes down over time..
anyways, we all decide what we are willing to pay for stuff, so the market forces dictate what mfgs charge; if people stopped buying apple crapple, they would lower their prices too, since they use the lowest cost labor in the world, and their raw materials are nothing to get excited about; they sell the sizzle, NOT the steak!!
I keep hearing about the Spen? If you don't use the Spen get the S8+? I do use my Spen everyday. But if I did not use it I would still choose the Note8. It's just a better all around phone than the S8+.
I was using an s8 before this and I don't use the spen at all..but trust me ..this is an awesome phone and YES very very much worth it

Samsung S9+ or Pixel 2 XL

Been a long time since I did a forum post, but need help with a decision I am faced with and was hoping someone can help...
So, I got the Samsung S9+. It's great. Does has some lag issues (particularly scrolling) . Screen is nice. Battery is ok. Wireless charging and camera is great too.
My dilemma comes since Google recently announced a $200 off promo for the Pixel 2 XL (if you finance). I would not have considered getting it since the price was way out of proportion to the phone you were getting, but now with the reduction in cost... The question is:
Should I return my S9+, save the Carrier Financing and go with the Pixel 2 XL (now more reasonably priced)?
Mind you to return my S9+, it will require a little hoop jumping and some pain with my carrier, but what doesn't?
Anyone had both phones or have both phones... thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
You read all the VS. articles on the net, and they are about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine... you guys are the "real world" users... wanting your honesty will help a great deal!
Great post well written (not usual ramblings) ok so is the Pixel XL 2 worth the hoop jumping, yes it most certainly is. Will it be worth it to ditch the S9+ to get the Pixel XL 2?
Well that depends on how important certain features are to you, for example Wireless charging? Or expandable storage? Will 128gb be enough?, is it ok that the Pixel has only ip67?
Ok also to clarify as you have probably read & seen about the Pixel 2 XL's Display. The S9+ has the best display period .....,however there is nothing awful about the Pixel XL 2's it's blown up a bit, wait I won't argue that blue shift is there, it is, however it's not that bad and after using it for now 3 months I don't notice, or pay attention to it.
The pixel XL has the best camera in a smartphone (at present) or rather perhaps their post processing, regardless it's really that good. Updates are another obvious factor for the Pixel, front facing speakers, battery life is much better on the Pixel, design although basic, is unique and enjoyable, it's fast &, fluid.
So if I were you weigh up what's important to you, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Pixel, especially with $200 off, it's a absolutely fantastic device to use, I love my pixel & I think you would appreciate it as much as the rest of us Team pixel users do :good:
Any more questions feel free to ask :good:
I have both the devices with me. Pixel 2xl beats Samsung s9 plus hands down.
I was having a note 8, just 3 months old. Sold it and went for s9 plus.
Trust me pixel 2 xl is the one to go for. The only reason I keep a Sammy device is for its extra skin features like secure folder app, screen resolution and the premium feel.
REST all the pixel 2 xl wins... Be it fluidity, speaker output, camera quality
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Great post well written (not usual ramblings) ok so is the Pixel XL 2 worth the hoop jumping, yes it most certainly is. Will it be worth it to ditch the S9+ to get the Pixel XL 2?
Well that depends on how important certain features are to you, for example Wireless charging? Or expandable storage? Will 128gb be enough?, is it ok that the Pixel has only ip67?
Ok also to clarify as you have probably read & seen about the Pixel 2 XL's Display. The S9+ has the best display period .....,however there is nothing awful about the Pixel XL 2's it's blown up a bit, wait I won't argue that blue shift is there, it is, however it's not that bad and after using it for now 3 months I don't notice, or pay attention to it.
The pixel XL has the best camera in a smartphone (at present) or rather perhaps their post processing, regardless it's really that good. Updates are another obvious factor for the Pixel, front facing speakers, battery life is much better on the Pixel, design although basic, is unique and enjoyable, it's fast &, fluid.
So if I were you weigh up what's important to you, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Pixel, especially with $200 off, it's a absolutely fantastic device to use, I love my pixel & I think you would appreciate it as much as the rest of us Team pixel users do :good:
Any more questions feel free to ask :good:
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Thanks for the quick come back...
I don't know... I mean the S9+ has the 845 Processor and 6GB of RAM and it's jitter on scrolling is sickening at times. I could assume that Samsung will fix this with an update at some point (like they always do) .
It's so hard to choose... I like the wireless charging, samsung pay and of course SD card expandability , but I am not going to keep any phone more than a year... Plus, getting the security updates and newest android releases is pretty decent.
damn... decisions, decisions...
Just being able to charge and listen to music at the same time without using any stupid adapter, makes the S9+ the ideal phone. Also, wireless charging is somewhat important since I have a lot of chargers already
However, Pixel's ecosystem and fluidity is something that I miss from the S9
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I have both the devices with me. Pixel 2xl beats Samsung s9 plus hands down.
I was having a note 8, just 3 months old. Sold it and went for s9 plus.
Trust me pixel 2 xl is the one to go for. The only reason I keep a Sammy device is for its extra skin features like secure folder app, screen resolution and the premium feel.
REST all the pixel 2 xl wins... Be it fluidity, speaker output, camera quality
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That's what I hear too...
The lag on a new phone with better specs just bothers me.... I'm sure samsung will release a fix plus something to help with battery... but I don't know if I want to wait that long..
t-shock said:
Just being able to charge and listen to music at the same time without using any stupid adapter, makes the S9+ the ideal phone. Also, wireless charging is somewhat important since I have a lot of chargers already
However, Pixel's ecosystem and fluidity is something that I miss from the S9
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yeah i know... having wireless charging is definitely important...
I don't listen to music anywhere but my car normally at its radio is Android Auto compatible... I can see how headphone jack thing still gets people upset, but it's not that big of a factor for me! :highfive:
I just came from the Pixel 2 XL because the hardware itself was a disaster. My blue tint was tragic and just sad compared to my terrible ancient iPhone (any angle past 30 degrees was ocean blue), the edges had problems with touch sensitivity, and then the charging port fried (I returned it at that point). The battery wasn't great for me either.
The P2XL camera processing is better and the actual phone is definitely less laggy, though.
Keive said:
I just came from the Pixel 2 XL because the hardware itself was a disaster. My blue tint was tragic and just sad compared to my terrible ancient iPhone (any angle past 30 degrees was ocean blue), the edges had problems with touch sensitivity, and then the charging port fried (I returned it at that point). The battery wasn't great for me either.
The P2XL camera processing is better and the actual phone is definitely less laggy, though.
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You thinking you got a “bad Apple” with your pixel? No pun intended
mahst68 said:
Been a long time since I did a forum post, but need help with a decision I am faced with and was hoping someone can help...
So, I got the Samsung S9+. It's great. Does has some lag issues (particularly scrolling) . Screen is nice. Battery is ok. Wireless charging and camera is great too.
My dilemma comes since Google recently announced a $200 off promo for the Pixel 2 XL (if you finance). I would not have considered getting it since the price was way out of proportion to the phone you were getting, but now with the reduction in cost... The question is:
Should I return my S9+, save the Carrier Financing and go with the Pixel 2 XL (now more reasonably priced)?
Mind you to return my S9+, it will require a little hoop jumping and some pain with my carrier, but what doesn't?
Anyone had both phones or have both phones... thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
You read all the VS. articles on the net, and they are about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine... you guys are the "real world" users... wanting your honesty will help a great deal!
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You want real world users?, I can tell you I had the Pixel 2 XL and now I'm having the S9+, and I can surely say I would never pick the Pixel 2 XL again.
This is my first Samsung device, but honestly, it has everything you wish in a phone.
Pixel 2 XL camera is overrated, and moreover, S9+ kicks Pixel 2 XL ass in low light conditions. I did many tests, in many light conditions, and I can tell you that the Pixel 2 XL doesn't taken a pic you can't take with another flagship phone. Yes, is true that the dynamic range and the HDR+ is magic, but quality and detail is poor overall, and Pixel 2 XL always put a lot of noise and grain in the pictures when the light is missing. I watched all the reviews and videos about the camera, and the day I had it in hand, it was a huge disappointment because quality is not that impressive.
With the Pixel 2 XL you are risking a lot in terms of quality, because is not only about the blue tint, is also the black crush, the black smearing, problems with speakers, with screen, with other internal components... Pixel 2 XL has the worst quality control I have even seen in a smartphone, a lot of people are returning theirs, and even after 4-5 exchanges, they still are not satisfied with the device. Even stores are running away from them, because they have the highest return rate ever seen in a device, and distributors don't want to sell this device anymore, because is a headache with warranty and service. Hardware problems can't be fixed by software!.
Moreover, Google and distributors are still sending units from October and November, even 4-5 months after they were manufactured, which for me look really suspicious, and make me think they are just selling the ones that other people sent back.
Stock Android is for XDA people, but real world people appreciate the fact of having options and gestures in a phone, and not being obligated to root or install custom ROM's to get certain useful functionalities; did you see Android P?, is a ripoff of Samsung Experience and Android now is copying useful things from other manufacturers, which I'm not saying is a bad thing, but then where's the creativity and the step forward?.
The ONLY true reason to pick the Pixel 2 XL would be the updates, but otherwise, I would stick with the S9+ and never look back. I don't care about updates since Nougat, because nothing has changed too much, and Project Treble will make updates easier for everyone. But be aware, because Google tends to mess the older devices, we saw it with the Nexus 6P when the first Pixel came out, and now that we have the Pixel 2 XL, there are a lot of issues with the first Pixel. They are behaving kind of Apple slowing down phones or making them unusable.
With the S9+ you get the latest hardware, and all those issue you mention, I don't have them at all, but maybe because I'm using Exynos version; anyway, S9+ for me is smoother and faster than Pixel 2 XL and I don't have any doubt that any problem you can have will be fixed through software.
Ask me whatever you want, I know both devices really good.
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No phone now is terrible.....we have reached a point where it's marginal in a lot of ways.
It just depends on features and Samsung has many....:good: for some that is great, others it's annoying.
I'm no Fanboy I just like my tech, I even have an iPhone X which I very much like :good:
So the Pixel doesn't kill or win hands down (not from my perspective) however it does offer a better user experience in terms of Updates, it offers a better Camera, all be it perhaps all In the post processing, but it's magical :good: and no Samsung hasn't trumped, but that's not saying the camera on the S9+ is terrible (It's most definitely not) I like it :good:
Samsung camera reimagined (Marketing) Camera improved yeah it is from my point (had the S8+ to) But it's not as big as advertised
It's tough but I don't have to choose, but if I had to and was in your shoes, then I would be thinking of what's important & what's not, the Pixel is where I would go, and I'm sure the S10 or if Samsung rename, is where your going to find the most improvement.
Go Pixel then see what next year brings :good:
If you like firmware updates on a monthly basis, go with the Pixel XL2. If you want to mod, unlock bootloader, root, etc Go with the Google Pixel XL2. I loved my Google Pixel XL and regret getting rid of it... The only thing is you go to get use to the a/b partitions and flashing. There are only (3) devices at this time, that i know of, running a/b partitions...the Google Pixels. both 1 and 2, and the Moto Z2 Force ( which i just bricked 2 in 4 days). But all devices eventually will be going that route, flagships at least....
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By the way, Security with the Pixel 2 is better because it gets the monthly security patches., on a monthly basis, the way devices should get updates. KNOX is for corporate companies and unless to the regular consumer, other then secure boot, i recently found out.
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Whatever you do, DONT GET A VERIZON Pixel because they dont allow Boot Loader Unlocking, UNLESS the device is booted with a different SIM card, other then Verizon, you can Unlock Boot Loader and still be on verizon...
I just switched from a Pixel2 XL. I can say that the idea of having a pure stock android directly from Google's kitchen was my first argument to get the pixel2 xl but the user experience and hardware didn't seduce me enough. I continuously felt having a missing feature to make things easier, like swiping to make a call or send sms, or take a screenshot then edit it and send it, showing the hand to take a selfie, listening via 2 Bluetooth headsets to same music my wife and I, ...etc
One can say that there are workarounds for most of "missing" features but it doesn't even come close to it and I didn't pay so much to be in need of 3rd party apps to have fade copies of essential (missing) features ...
Some other "necessary" features can only be obtained by installing xposed, like realtime network speed meter, call recording, customize navigation bar ...
Concerning the hardware, I hated the display not only because of the tint but for two other major reasons: 1. Feels like cheap plastic especially if you knock on it in the middle. 2. While using it on daydream vr, the screen has bad quality and an ugly black tearing (which can also be seen without vr).
VR is also a major argument for me to switch to S9+. There you CAN see how marvelous the screen is and how complete is the oculus ecosystem !
The camera on pixel2 xl is not that wonderful as it is said. The S9+ camera is really practical and powerful and accurate (personal pov).
About stereo speakers, it was also a tempting feature on pixel2 xl but hearing the stereo surrounding sound of S9+ is a great pleasure. A sound more realistic and with sufficient bass (sort of).
Also, I was disappointed with pixel2 xl when I recorded a video then found out its sound was mono while S9+ records videos in stereo and makes watching them a great experience !
As a flasholic, I hated the A/B seamless updates thing which makes flashing and experimenting a lot harder and troublesome.
Lag lag lag, the bad word sticking to touchwiz since ages. I don't find it laggy at all especially when considering the amount of its features. One can remove 99% of bloatware and additional stuff and gain the "legendary" nude android smoothness but then, it's nude ! I didn't pay for that. People tend to compare by benchmarks. The S9+ is doing really well on that part, but in everyday use I am sure I CAN achieve regular stuff on my S9+ faster than on Pixel2 XL !
All that being said, I again feel I'm using a "smart"phone .
Edit : I was also tempted by the long-term updates which I could get 3 years long on the pixel2 xl but, hey, are we keeping our devices more than a year ? Hell no, so why bother ? I enjoy the best looking and functioning device now until another better one seduces me...
googy_anas said:
The camera on pixel2 xl is not that wonderful as it is said. The S9+ camera is really practical and powerful and accurate (personal pov). .
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I agree with most of your points, but you've got to be kidding regarding the camera. The pixel camera is still consistently the best out there.
Goronok said:
I agree with most of your points, but you've got to be kidding regarding the camera. The pixel camera is still consistently the best out there.
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I'm not kidding but I'm not a professional too. All I can say is that my S9+ pictures AND videos look better than what pixel2xl gave me. (Still personal pov)
Can I test a little bit here, I won't name the device the photo was taken with .....
First one .....
Second one :good:
What one is the Samsung? I can tell you which one is way more accurate in colour, and the better of the scene, both same auto settings and exactly the same conditions :good:
I've had both and like the S9+ at least a little better. I returned my 1st P2XL for a very blue display. The 2nd one started flashing brightly when the display went off. I got a good one for the 3rd, sold it before something else happened. After returning 2 units I lost my love for the device. Stock phones are so capable now I've lost the urge to root & mod. I really like the S9+, it just works well & the display is beautiful. It'll hold me until the P3 comes out. They are both great but I've never returned anything twice for defects. Some on here have had 5 or 6 rmas.
I had a S9+ and a Pixel 2 XL. The S9 went back for horrible black crush and smearing. Take your brightness way down and scroll through something. Also try to watch a video on Netflix. I ordered another S9 to see if it's and isolated incident. Problem is there's a thread on Android Central with the same issues. I put the S9 and Pixel next to each other. They smearing and crush looked identical. I've always been a stock Android guy, but the stereo speakers and other features on the S9 almost have me won over...if the next screen is better.

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