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I'm running MIUI ROM from Th3Bill and loving it (thanks Th3Bill!), the latest release (.29) has transformed my phone - again.
I just have a question though.
I notice the bill releases lots of JB roms (AOKP, Paranoid Android, CNA, MIUI)..
I'm uncertain as to the difference between all of these.
do any work better or worse on the atrix 4g?
Don't get me wrong i'm not doubting TheBill for one microsecond, but am just curious as to why so many roms would be released by one person unless they have some difference between them, or is it just a different look and feel?
I guess i'm just wanting the best JB experience i can get with the ROMS currently available, and short of 'just trying them all', well. i took the lazy route and posted here to ask what fundamental differences there are to an end user perspective.
i understand the underlying release may have features which do not work with the atrix (cam/fp-sensor/tether) and this will be comon accross all ROMS using this underlying release.
thanks.
Gavin.
Best thing to do is probably use each for a day and see which ones have the features you like/need.
I haven't tried cna or pa yet, so I can't comment on their stability. I think since they are all based off the same cm10 that their issues (beyond the common issues of all the roms) are upstream. For example, I don't think any of the roms have camcorder 100 percent working, or native wifi hot spot. The individual roms probably have some smaller bugs that are upstream of th3Bill's work, like I said.
Here's a rough breakdown: miui is very themed/themeable and has some custom features like a cool lock screen, sms pop ups,... You probably know miui already, since you are on it. It's the most different from the rest.
Paranoid android specializes in tabet/phone hybrid ui, tweaking dpi for individual apps without reboot (I think)
Cna is the only jb rom (I think) that has custom lock screen targets yet. I don't know much about it other than that.
I'm on aokp, and I really like it. I like the notification toggles with a brightness bar underneath, and I like the rest of the systemui tweaks.
People can add to this, or correct me if I'm wrong about any of it.
Unfortunately it's a bit time consuming to set up a new rom every day, but there is only 4, so I'm sure you can find the time.... At some point.
I hope that helps a tiny bit. I'm still exploring them myself =)
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Thanks for the quick and detailed reply.
Trust me to chose the 'most different' ROM (MIUI)
This is good information to have thank you, and gives me some comfort that i'm not missing out on anything, also that just trying each rom for a day or two is the way to do it.
Cheers for your help, although as my phone is a daily runner, i'll probably stick with what i know now (MIUI).
I may find a cheep atrix to try loading other roms onto soon and perhaps be adventurous with trying other roms on that.
many thanks
Gavin
Miui is definitely my favorite but it feels a little heavy/less responsive compared to aokp/cm10.
I can't comment on cna, or pa because I've never used them.
Aokp/cm10 are great. Fast and smooth and a few of the paid themes lurking around the play store are absolutely stunning, Dream, Lucid, PopStyle all amazing. I use Aokp because of it advanced visual preferences like centered clock, weather under toggles, sliders, lock screen tweaks, on screen nav buttons, stuff like that
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I need my phone during the week too, so I usually try one out over the weekend. I definitely can't keep up with th3bill like that hah
Epinter
I´m using Epinter´s CM10 and I´m loving it. I find it very fast and my battery last all day.
I´ve tried MIUI and personally is the one I like the least. AOKP is good also, but not as good as Epinter.
I tried JB roms and my first ROM was CNA. But the provided build during my install had issues and Bill said he might take couple more days. Since it was more related to emails, i have to switch back to other ROM and switched to epinter.
I am on epinter CM10 and its i like it. But even in this ROM, i am having issues with apps like shopkicks not getting loaded.
And few times, when i launch four square app, i will see like slanting colored lines until i reboot.
Also rarely WiFi issues it wont connect and even not possible to disable Wifi until reboot.
But Battery wise i get nearly 1.5 to 2 days with regular use of browsing, 2 emails , texting and phonecalls.
So i'm moving to the US soon and I always wanted a N4 cause of the Android Vanilla but couldn't get one from my current country.
Right now I have an S3 which is cool and everything but I just freakin hate touchwiz roms and CM roms are still not completely functional so..... I know that on hardware perspective the N4 doesn't compare to the S3 but would like to hear some feedback cause the N5 could be near.
would you guys trade an S3 for a N4 if you had the chance?
Honestly, if you want the hardware power, but the vanilla android. Try out a launcher...
Also, define CM roms aren't fully functional?
They lack radio and have minor bugs here and there, but it's still worth it. Instead of downgrading (hardware-wise) to an N4.
Also there are AOSP roms... Never tried one though .
But no, would never trade S3 for N4.
And would recommend nobody to ever do it xP
Valdorous said:
Honestly, if you want the hardware power, but the vanilla android. Try out a launcher...
Also, define CM roms aren't fully functional?
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actually I have tried PARANOID, CM, PACMAN, OMEGA, SLIMICS, etc. You name the ROM and I tried it but since most of them are CM based they all share the common bugs, for instance we had a camera problem (not sure if it's fixed already), also wifi tethering didn't quite work and I use that feature a lot to share internet to my GF, some weird issues with sounds. Never used radio so I don't really miss that feature.
Right now my phone is heavily customized with an Omega ROM, Apex Launcher, Jkay Framework so it actually looks like Android Vanilla, BUT it doesn't feel like it.
guess ill just wait for the N5 and keep my brain shut for now.
thanks
Dude, wow...
Never ever come across any-issues except camera related issues...
Try out SlimBean and do not judge it based on the starting DPI (adjust in interface -> General etc) as is starts out in Tablet mode XD..
Anyways, I've yet to come across any bugs (and wifi tethering works fine, camera too) etc.
(Week later reply, but yeah )
Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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Went from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 and was shocked by the phablet UI and the loss of usefull screen. That's when i unlocked my bootloader.
Been using PACMAN nightlies and am currently testing AOKP. Both are working just fine but you lack stamina mode and some sony features like doubletap wakeup and the remote.
The Android 4.3 ROMs are both very usable for everyday usage though. PACMAN comes with more additional stuff but i don't need even half of it wich is why i test AOKP right now. All i want is the tablet UI and the fast 4.3 performance.
I flashed so many ROMS lately that it is probably due to that fact and i need to wipe it clean and start from scratch. :laugh:
My wish would be a modified Sony 4.2.2 ROM with tablet UI. I think the additions Sony implemented are useful without bloating the operating system. Sadly it is completely useless with the phablet UI.
KanjiMan1977 said:
Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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I'm using the PAC nightly builds and having no problems :good:
As Jequan mentions, you do loose some of the stock functionality. The only bit I miss is the double tap to wake - that was nice.
The main reason I use PAC is for Pie functionality. For me, permanent on-screen navigation buttons are a waste of screen space - so I use ROMs with Pie (PA on my phone, PAC on my tablet z).
Note : If you are going to unlock your bootloader, backup the TA partition first. (Google: 'Sony DRM TA partition backup' for more info)
At the moment, the Sony stock 4.1.2 is the best ROM. Full functionality, rock stable, no annoying phablet UI.
Only problem is WiFi connection is sometimes a bit unstable. You have to test whether that's a problem for you (for me it's not, with my router it works very good).
Well Im really just waiting to see if they screw up 4.3 cause its supposed to be out really soon. Ir remote... dont care about cause there are other apps on play... just wont be as pretty. What I really wanna hold on to lol... my gallery widget... I cant find one even close to it. but if I want it that bad theres an Advanced Xperia launcher I can install. I have all the files needed to get the ball rolling. Im just still kicking myself for upgrading to 4.2.2. Now I guess either downgrade or Rom either way next step for me is a recovery cause im not flashing nothing without one. PAC was a pretty good Rom ported to the Galaxy Note... But it crashed a lot on me.. But that was back awhile ago. I like my per app dpi and all the customization bells an whistles.
Another thing I was thinking was trying the Xposed framework on the stock Sony firmwares. With the right modules it just might do the trick. But I would still want to run a recovery before trying that aswell.
After benevolently testing new phablet-ui for some weeks, I found it most inappropriate for a 10.1" device on which I work in horizontal screen orientation. So I changed to latest PACMAN ROM nightly and now after a week I can conclude, this step has payed off. Although some things do not work (yet) in this ROM, it runs very smooth, not a single reboot from the start. It has tons of options to set and play with and it brought back the tablet-ui. I did no great feature testing, only daily work with Dolphin, Firefox, Chrome, K9, Jota, FileManager HD, QuickPic, c4Droid, AdobeReader, YouTube etc. Also battery live seems to be all right to me. The only thing is I had to change to Nova launcher, built-in Trebuchet did not handle wallpaper setting properly. On the downside I lost the unique features and apps of stock ROM, but I did not use them anyway ...
What i miss, is the stamina mode, MHL hdmi, USB Mass Storage.
I use CM10.2
USB mass storage also doesn't work??
You can't connect a USB stick to the tablet, even not with Stickmount or a similar helper app??
USB Storage seemed to work for me when i had PACMAN installed.
The complete lack of deepsleep resulting in battery drain when inactive is what made me go back to Sony 4.1.2.
Once they found a way to do something like staminamode i will switch back.
All it would take is to let the tablet enter deepsleep i think.
Pacman (or any other AOSP based ROM) doesn't have deep sleep? Can't believe that!
I'm sure you just had some app which held the tablet awake.
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Pacman (or any other AOSP based ROM) doesn't have deep sleep? Can't believe that!
I'm sure you just had some app which held the tablet awake.
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I reinstalled it clean just for that. Also installed greenify and disabled everything possible. Then installed wakelock detector and nope it never went to deepsleep. Neither did the AOKP ROM for that matter.
I posted it in various threads but so far i got not a single confirmation that others get deepsleep.
OK, so no deepsleep -> worse battery life?
I'm on PAC for two weeks now, I'm using the device exactly the same way as with Sony stock and activated stamina-mode. And there seems to be not much difference, maybe few percent advantage for Sony stock.
PAC Wi-Fi settings 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' I set to never, but sometimes incoming mails are received anyway.
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OK, so no deepsleep -> worse battery life?
I'm on PAC for two weeks now, I'm using the device exactly the same way as with Sony stock and activated stamina-mode. And there seems to be not much difference, maybe few percent advantage for Sony stock.
PAC Wi-Fi settings 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' I set to never, but sometimes incoming mails are received anyway.
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When i used AOKP or PACMAN i lost about 1% battery per hour when in standby. With the sony ROM i wont lost a single % over 12 hours. I also had massive battery usage shown for "Android system". I never could narrow down why or what causes it. With timescape the display is using most of the juice as it should be.
That is why i started looking into where the juice goes and it showed that it never goes into deepsleep and no app was active.
Maybe i did something wrong i dunno.
I'm on cm and loving it. I like the simplicity of cm while still having that AOSP feel.
I'm running AOKP nightlies, only because CM 10.2 doesn't seem to have a tablet UI - I'd love to be proven wrong on this though! AOKP is pretty solid, but it has some oddities to it that make me miss CM 10.2 or stock Sony. Mostly I miss Double Tap to Wake.
AOKP is not updated very frequently either, and there are some issues that I think should be fixed that just haven't been after weeks, so I'm somewhat disappointed for now.
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I'm running AOKP nightlies, only because CM 10.2 doesn't seem to have a tablet UI - I'd love to be proven wrong on this though! AOKP is pretty solid, but it has some oddities to it that make me miss CM 10.2 or stock Sony. Mostly I miss Double Tap to Wake.
AOKP is not updated very frequently either, and there are some issues that I think should be fixed that just haven't been after weeks, so I'm somewhat disappointed for now.
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See that's what i dont get... all these roms running off the same buggy cyanogen but know one fixes them... they just copy them over to such and such rom and its no better cause it has the same bugs. I guess its just the fact is whether or not all the fancy dancy features is worth loosing some functionality over a stock rom. I was thinking that modified xperia launcher was great to use on stock rom (but what happened to that... been months since update) along with a couple other customization apps. I don't see to much happening in the XTZ scene I cant even find a functional recovery that works like it should... correct me if Im wrong. Almost all the threads are full of out dated info ("that was soo last week" ) or empty promises, Or is it that there are people working on new great things and keeping it hush hush. Im no dev i would learn if i knew where to start (I know starting with XML would help) but how about an update on your projects once in a while like how things are going.
But to be honest I think im gonna downgrade cause Im sick of lookin at the stupid phablet UI with its grey bars (BAD SONY).
[ROM][10/11][CM10.2][Linaro][O3][MeowKernel][TWRP][Fidelity]CM10.2 - Fidelity Edition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383800
Works beautifully well. Was getting boot loops on pac rom on my wifi only 32g xperiabtablet z.
I also posted in thread how to get viper4android to work and have scipts Supercharger V6 supercharged 100% working along with crossbreader.
Unrelated, is anyone else concerned about the usb port breaking on the device? im reading reports that it eventually falls off. Anyone here have their tablet since May, no issues? im buying a charging cradle to mitigate damage.
Also I really like the GUI in this ROM. I have deleted stock along launcher using no bloat,;I use Nova, way better and I locked nova in portrait mode because looks way nicer. I also flashed a swipe asop black keyboard with swipe and installed exposed module with app settings. I use greenify to grrenify all and keep a greenify shortcut on my desktop. I deleted all email apps including gmail because I use aqua mail.
Running very smooth here. Really love the expanded desktop feature, I use it while I'm gaming.
This tablet is far more superior with boot loader unlocked. Glad I did it!
HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.4.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
stewbuntu said:
HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.2.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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My bad 4.4.2 and I do see 10B build # KVT49L.VS98510B model # has 10b too
Thanks guys, good info and stuff to research
Colchiro said:
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
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I knew I didn't want Samsung/[email protected] so I spent a while looking at other options and the G3 seemed great with Micro SD and replaceable battery. I can't understand what companies are thinking with no SD slot and not being able to swap batteries when they go bad, or on the fly (although I do 12 hr shifts). Ever since my Motorolla Atrix 3G I have missed glitch free daily drivers My fingers are crossed
So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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Locked bootloaders is why I switched to LG. I'm not alone.
I haven't tried any custom roms. I don't like to lose some of the features I like, like knock and stock camera, so haven't messed with custom roms for a couple years. Debloated stock G3 works fine for me....
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It seems like a real good phone for a great price. How come there are barely any ROMs? Is it just because of the lack of market share of this phone? I'm coming from a Nexus 5 which has tons of ROMs and has for years.
sneak310 said:
It seems like a real good phone for a great price. How come there are barely any ROMs? Is it just because of the lack of market share of this phone? I'm coming from a Nexus 5 which has tons of ROMs and has for years.
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Well there's half a dozen AOSP ROMs.
But LG is to blame for not more. They released the phone September/October 2017, but didn't release the open market variants (non-carrier models with official bootloader unlock code) until months later, and then NEVER officially announced US998 bootloader unlock eligibility. Users basically had to hack the LG website to get a code, and then it only worked for the open marketUS998 V30, not the open market US998 V30+.
In mid-May 2018 with Oreo update is when @TxanMoe discovered the wonderful WTF bootloader unlock exploit. That was 8-9 months after release and devs had moved on.
@SGCMarkus has been our rock. He singlehandedly maintains half a dozen ROMs and now others are stepping up to help out.
Also there's concern custom ROMs will negate proprietary features like QUAD DAC and camera and battery life. We can use two apps for quad DAC, but have to use Google cam port for camera instead of stock camera.
I'm still running stock rooted firmware myself, with a couple of Magisk modules.
How many ROMs do you want?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
sneak310 said:
It seems like a real good phone for a great price. How come there are barely any ROMs? Is it just because of the lack of market share of this phone? I'm coming from a Nexus 5 which has tons of ROMs and has for years.
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It is a good phone. I would imagine most devs have lives outside of xda. It takes time to build these roms and I suspect it isn't a full time priority. I've looked into building briefly...it made my head spin. I'm too old to sit in front of a computer more than I already do. Kudos to the ones that build.
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It is a good phone. I would imagine most devs have lives outside of xda. It takes time to build these roms and I suspect it isn't a full time priority. I've looked into building briefly...it made my head spin. I'm too old to sit in front of a computer more than I already do. Kudos to the ones that build.
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Obviously but so do the people who did all those Nexus 5 ROMs so there's clearly a difference here when all other things are equal.
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Obviously but so do the people who did all those Nexus 5 ROMs so there's clearly a difference here when all other things are equal.
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Are the Nexus line of phones easier to root?
Xblackberryuser said:
Are the Nexus line of phones easier to root?
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As far as the end-user process, based on what I read on this forum, yes. I think it was easier for people to figure it out initially too, probably for the reasons ChazzMatt explained.
sneak310 said:
As far as the end-user process, based on what I read on this forum, yes. I think it was easier for people to figure it out initially too, probably for the reasons ChazzMatt explained.
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Honestly, this device is a decent experience with stock. Stock seems to have the edge over los 15.1 for me.
Xblackberryuser said:
Honestly, this device is a decent experience with stock. Stock seems to have the edge over los 15.1 for me.
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Thanks for that info. Does it offer the ability to modify the "power menu" when pressing the power button? For example, on my Nexus 5 one of the main features I like in ROMs is this ability. I want to be able to put reboot and power in that menu and take everything else out. I also like having AdAway built-in to my current N5 ROM but I'm sure there's a way to flash that or something similar. It just uses a hosts file to block ad domains so it does a great job blocking adds device-wide.
sneak310 said:
Thanks for that info. Does it offer the ability to modify the "power menu" when pressing the power button? For example, on my Nexus 5 one of the main features I like in ROMs is this ability. I want to be able to put reboot and power in that menu and take everything else out. I also like having AdAway built-in to my current N5 ROM but I'm sure there's a way to flash that or something similar. It just uses a hosts file to block ad domains so it does a great job blocking adds device-wide.
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Have you tried any of the roms available?
ChazzMatt said:
Well there's half a dozen AOSP ROMs.
But LG is to blame for not more. They released the phone September/October 2017, but didn't release the open market variants (non-carrier models with official bootloader unlock code) until months later, and then NEVER officially announced US998 bootloader unlock eligibility. Users basically had to hack the LG website to get a code, and then it only worked for the open marketUS998 V30, not the open market US998 V30+.
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LG always does this. The LG Fathom was a boss phone with great specs and nobody was able to develop much for it. I don't know what they're afraid of by allowing us to utilize the Quad DAC but it's really setting this phone back.
Does the V10 DAC fix app actually work, or do I have to use USB Audio player pro to utilize the DAC? I'm cheap and don't want to pay $7 lol
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Have you tried any of the roms available?
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I don't own the phone yet. It's something I'm strongly considering and ROM support was one thing I was looking at.
In addition to wanting to modify the power menu there are other things I can do with my Nexus 5 using a custom ROM. Some are not that important and there are probably no deal-breakers but here's a list of cool things I wonder if the V30/+ has:
Ability to disable automatic OTA updates (aka have actual control over my own device. I'm not buying an iPhone here...).
Option to allow volume down/up to enter/exit DND mode.
Status bar icon modification (which icons display. For example I can disable BT icon even though I have it enabled).
Carrier label modification/disabler (change it from saying ATT to something else or disable completely as well as color/font/font size modification).
Clock position, AM/PM size, Date case, Date format, Date position, status bar font, status bar font size.
Battery indicator adjustment (I like the Cyanogenmod style; a number of the percentage inside of a circle representing that number).
Center time/date.
Long-press power button for flashlight when screen is locked (automatic-off set by user. I use 1 minute).
When pressing volume buttons the ability to access non-ringtone volumes and slide them to adjust are available.
Ability to adjust how each app is permitted to show notifications (allow fullscreen interruption/don't allow, never peek/always peek, etc...).
Option to set how long a peek notification will show for.
Option to turn screen on or leave it off when receiving a notification.
Ability to modify lock screen shortcuts.
Memory (consumption/available) in recent apps page.
Clear all recent apps button on apps page (this was removed from Android in Version 6 IIRC).
Ability to enable a lock icon on apps in recent apps page so that they aren't cleared when clearing all apps out from that page.
Ability to modify if I hear a sound (and which sound) and if the phone vibrates when being connected/disconnected from a power source.
Ability to change volume steps in volume panel.
As I go through my phone's features I realize that the V30/+ don't have a notification LED I love that thing. I think you can see that I basically miss a lot of old features from Android 4 and on that were removed from the OS.
Also, I've never used Oreo because I can't get any OREO ROMs to flash on my re-partitioned Nexus 5 so I don't really know what has changed in detail since Android 7.1.2.
TPMJB said:
LG always does this. The LG Fathom was a boss phone with great specs and nobody was able to develop much for it. I don't know what they're afraid of by allowing us to utilize the Quad DAC but it's really setting this phone back.
Does the V10 DAC fix app actually work, or do I have to use USB Audio player pro to utilize the DAC? I'm cheap and don't want to pay $7 lol
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Wait for pie build, @SGCMarkus already put the commit for DaC
@sneak310 Some of those features are available on LOS 15.1. Something like RR or DU will be the best bet for extensive customizing. Once you go to custom rom, ota's are not an issue. You can freeze or disable ota on stock. It still does a check on reboot though.
Xblackberryuser said:
@sneak310 Some of those features are available on LOS 15.1. Something like RR or DU will be the best bet for extensive customizing.
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I figured it would have some of the features. Are you able to point out which it doesn't have (or which it has, if that is the lesser between the two)?
TPMJB said:
LG always does this. The LG Fathom was a boss phone with great specs and nobody was able to develop much for it. I don't know what they're afraid of by allowing us to utilize the Quad DAC but it's really setting this phone back.
Does the V10 DAC fix app actually work, or do I have to use USB Audio player pro to utilize the DAC? I'm cheap and don't want to pay $7 lol
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Well the Nexus 5 had a very vibrant modding community revolving around it even early on... or are you not counting that because it was a Google release?
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I figured it would have some of the features. Are you able to point out which it doesn't have (or which it has, if that is the lesser between the two)?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development
Pick a rom. Features are listed
mrxyzl said:
wait for pie build, @sgcmarkus already put the commit for dac
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omg that's awesome!!!
sneak310 said:
Well the Nexus 5 had a very vibrant modding community revolving around it even early on... or are you not counting that because it was a Google release?
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You're going to raise my blood pressure. I had the Nexus 5X. The great phone that didn't have a microSD slot that I had encrypted, and had this leeeeeetle factory flaw that caused it to not be able to boot.
I managed to pull my data off in time before it crapped out again. Freezer trick extended its life by a tiny bit to get my data. Now it won't boot at all, so I can't even use the fix.
Oh yeah, and to answer your question no, I don't count it. It's a Google phone. Google steps in and supports the developers. Notice how we could only bootloader unlock through an exploit? Yeah LG hates us. It's not even that they don't care - they actively hate us. We extend the life of their phones so we don't buy their newer phones bogged down with bloatware.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development
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Obviously if I want to see the features of a third-party ROM I would check there. I'm asking about the stock ROM since you brought it up.
Xblackberryuser said:
Honestly, this device is a decent experience with stock. Stock seems to have the edge over los 15.1 for me.
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TPMJB said:
omg that's awesome!!!
You're going to raise my blood pressure. I had the Nexus 5X. The great phone that didn't have a microSD slot that I had encrypted, and had this leeeeeetle factory flaw that caused it to not be able to boot.
I managed to pull my data off in time before it crapped out again. Freezer trick extended its life by a tiny bit to get my data. Now it won't boot at all, so I can't even use the fix.
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I'm talking about the 5, not the 5X (it also didn't have an SD slot but I knew this was a tradeoff going in to the purchase. It was a $350 phone with high-end specs).
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Obviously if I want to see the features of a third-party ROM I would check there. I'm asking about the stock ROM since you brought it up.
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I did say "for me". I don't require much of my phone.