It seems like a real good phone for a great price. How come there are barely any ROMs? Is it just because of the lack of market share of this phone? I'm coming from a Nexus 5 which has tons of ROMs and has for years.
sneak310 said:
It seems like a real good phone for a great price. How come there are barely any ROMs? Is it just because of the lack of market share of this phone? I'm coming from a Nexus 5 which has tons of ROMs and has for years.
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Well there's half a dozen AOSP ROMs.
But LG is to blame for not more. They released the phone September/October 2017, but didn't release the open market variants (non-carrier models with official bootloader unlock code) until months later, and then NEVER officially announced US998 bootloader unlock eligibility. Users basically had to hack the LG website to get a code, and then it only worked for the open marketUS998 V30, not the open market US998 V30+.
In mid-May 2018 with Oreo update is when @TxanMoe discovered the wonderful WTF bootloader unlock exploit. That was 8-9 months after release and devs had moved on.
@SGCMarkus has been our rock. He singlehandedly maintains half a dozen ROMs and now others are stepping up to help out.
Also there's concern custom ROMs will negate proprietary features like QUAD DAC and camera and battery life. We can use two apps for quad DAC, but have to use Google cam port for camera instead of stock camera.
I'm still running stock rooted firmware myself, with a couple of Magisk modules.
How many ROMs do you want?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
sneak310 said:
It seems like a real good phone for a great price. How come there are barely any ROMs? Is it just because of the lack of market share of this phone? I'm coming from a Nexus 5 which has tons of ROMs and has for years.
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It is a good phone. I would imagine most devs have lives outside of xda. It takes time to build these roms and I suspect it isn't a full time priority. I've looked into building briefly...it made my head spin. I'm too old to sit in front of a computer more than I already do. Kudos to the ones that build.
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It is a good phone. I would imagine most devs have lives outside of xda. It takes time to build these roms and I suspect it isn't a full time priority. I've looked into building briefly...it made my head spin. I'm too old to sit in front of a computer more than I already do. Kudos to the ones that build.
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Obviously but so do the people who did all those Nexus 5 ROMs so there's clearly a difference here when all other things are equal.
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Obviously but so do the people who did all those Nexus 5 ROMs so there's clearly a difference here when all other things are equal.
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Are the Nexus line of phones easier to root?
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Are the Nexus line of phones easier to root?
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As far as the end-user process, based on what I read on this forum, yes. I think it was easier for people to figure it out initially too, probably for the reasons ChazzMatt explained.
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As far as the end-user process, based on what I read on this forum, yes. I think it was easier for people to figure it out initially too, probably for the reasons ChazzMatt explained.
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Honestly, this device is a decent experience with stock. Stock seems to have the edge over los 15.1 for me.
Xblackberryuser said:
Honestly, this device is a decent experience with stock. Stock seems to have the edge over los 15.1 for me.
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Thanks for that info. Does it offer the ability to modify the "power menu" when pressing the power button? For example, on my Nexus 5 one of the main features I like in ROMs is this ability. I want to be able to put reboot and power in that menu and take everything else out. I also like having AdAway built-in to my current N5 ROM but I'm sure there's a way to flash that or something similar. It just uses a hosts file to block ad domains so it does a great job blocking adds device-wide.
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Thanks for that info. Does it offer the ability to modify the "power menu" when pressing the power button? For example, on my Nexus 5 one of the main features I like in ROMs is this ability. I want to be able to put reboot and power in that menu and take everything else out. I also like having AdAway built-in to my current N5 ROM but I'm sure there's a way to flash that or something similar. It just uses a hosts file to block ad domains so it does a great job blocking adds device-wide.
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Have you tried any of the roms available?
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Well there's half a dozen AOSP ROMs.
But LG is to blame for not more. They released the phone September/October 2017, but didn't release the open market variants (non-carrier models with official bootloader unlock code) until months later, and then NEVER officially announced US998 bootloader unlock eligibility. Users basically had to hack the LG website to get a code, and then it only worked for the open marketUS998 V30, not the open market US998 V30+.
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LG always does this. The LG Fathom was a boss phone with great specs and nobody was able to develop much for it. I don't know what they're afraid of by allowing us to utilize the Quad DAC but it's really setting this phone back.
Does the V10 DAC fix app actually work, or do I have to use USB Audio player pro to utilize the DAC? I'm cheap and don't want to pay $7 lol
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I don't own the phone yet. It's something I'm strongly considering and ROM support was one thing I was looking at.
In addition to wanting to modify the power menu there are other things I can do with my Nexus 5 using a custom ROM. Some are not that important and there are probably no deal-breakers but here's a list of cool things I wonder if the V30/+ has:
Ability to disable automatic OTA updates (aka have actual control over my own device. I'm not buying an iPhone here...).
Option to allow volume down/up to enter/exit DND mode.
Status bar icon modification (which icons display. For example I can disable BT icon even though I have it enabled).
Carrier label modification/disabler (change it from saying ATT to something else or disable completely as well as color/font/font size modification).
Clock position, AM/PM size, Date case, Date format, Date position, status bar font, status bar font size.
Battery indicator adjustment (I like the Cyanogenmod style; a number of the percentage inside of a circle representing that number).
Center time/date.
Long-press power button for flashlight when screen is locked (automatic-off set by user. I use 1 minute).
When pressing volume buttons the ability to access non-ringtone volumes and slide them to adjust are available.
Ability to adjust how each app is permitted to show notifications (allow fullscreen interruption/don't allow, never peek/always peek, etc...).
Option to set how long a peek notification will show for.
Option to turn screen on or leave it off when receiving a notification.
Ability to modify lock screen shortcuts.
Memory (consumption/available) in recent apps page.
Clear all recent apps button on apps page (this was removed from Android in Version 6 IIRC).
Ability to enable a lock icon on apps in recent apps page so that they aren't cleared when clearing all apps out from that page.
Ability to modify if I hear a sound (and which sound) and if the phone vibrates when being connected/disconnected from a power source.
Ability to change volume steps in volume panel.
As I go through my phone's features I realize that the V30/+ don't have a notification LED I love that thing. I think you can see that I basically miss a lot of old features from Android 4 and on that were removed from the OS.
Also, I've never used Oreo because I can't get any OREO ROMs to flash on my re-partitioned Nexus 5 so I don't really know what has changed in detail since Android 7.1.2.
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LG always does this. The LG Fathom was a boss phone with great specs and nobody was able to develop much for it. I don't know what they're afraid of by allowing us to utilize the Quad DAC but it's really setting this phone back.
Does the V10 DAC fix app actually work, or do I have to use USB Audio player pro to utilize the DAC? I'm cheap and don't want to pay $7 lol
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Wait for pie build, @SGCMarkus already put the commit for DaC
@sneak310 Some of those features are available on LOS 15.1. Something like RR or DU will be the best bet for extensive customizing. Once you go to custom rom, ota's are not an issue. You can freeze or disable ota on stock. It still does a check on reboot though.
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@sneak310 Some of those features are available on LOS 15.1. Something like RR or DU will be the best bet for extensive customizing.
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I figured it would have some of the features. Are you able to point out which it doesn't have (or which it has, if that is the lesser between the two)?
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LG always does this. The LG Fathom was a boss phone with great specs and nobody was able to develop much for it. I don't know what they're afraid of by allowing us to utilize the Quad DAC but it's really setting this phone back.
Does the V10 DAC fix app actually work, or do I have to use USB Audio player pro to utilize the DAC? I'm cheap and don't want to pay $7 lol
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Well the Nexus 5 had a very vibrant modding community revolving around it even early on... or are you not counting that because it was a Google release?
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I figured it would have some of the features. Are you able to point out which it doesn't have (or which it has, if that is the lesser between the two)?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development
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mrxyzl said:
wait for pie build, @sgcmarkus already put the commit for dac
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omg that's awesome!!!
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Well the Nexus 5 had a very vibrant modding community revolving around it even early on... or are you not counting that because it was a Google release?
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You're going to raise my blood pressure. I had the Nexus 5X. The great phone that didn't have a microSD slot that I had encrypted, and had this leeeeeetle factory flaw that caused it to not be able to boot.
I managed to pull my data off in time before it crapped out again. Freezer trick extended its life by a tiny bit to get my data. Now it won't boot at all, so I can't even use the fix.
Oh yeah, and to answer your question no, I don't count it. It's a Google phone. Google steps in and supports the developers. Notice how we could only bootloader unlock through an exploit? Yeah LG hates us. It's not even that they don't care - they actively hate us. We extend the life of their phones so we don't buy their newer phones bogged down with bloatware.
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Obviously if I want to see the features of a third-party ROM I would check there. I'm asking about the stock ROM since you brought it up.
Xblackberryuser said:
Honestly, this device is a decent experience with stock. Stock seems to have the edge over los 15.1 for me.
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omg that's awesome!!!
You're going to raise my blood pressure. I had the Nexus 5X. The great phone that didn't have a microSD slot that I had encrypted, and had this leeeeeetle factory flaw that caused it to not be able to boot.
I managed to pull my data off in time before it crapped out again. Freezer trick extended its life by a tiny bit to get my data. Now it won't boot at all, so I can't even use the fix.
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I'm talking about the 5, not the 5X (it also didn't have an SD slot but I knew this was a tradeoff going in to the purchase. It was a $350 phone with high-end specs).
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Obviously if I want to see the features of a third-party ROM I would check there. I'm asking about the stock ROM since you brought it up.
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I did say "for me". I don't require much of my phone.
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Okay, I've had it already with all this whining about Roms coming to our device when we don't have an unlocked boot loader yet. What the heck do some people here expect? These forums are for experienced developers, some of you should not even be posting asking these questions. If you want a ROM so badly learn to develop. Learn to unlock our boot loader, don't give our devs hell. This is not a Google device, this isn't a Nexus where you would have a ROM the next day. Chill, even the worst devices have Dev support, ours will come. So until we get an unlocked boot loader please stop complaining, you may as well rewatch the noob video, because you clearly don't understand what you've been told
That being said what is your favorite custom ROM out there that you would like to see land on our device? There are so many but what is second to none in your opinion?
This biggest problem is how they will implement the 3 virtual buttons in custom roms?
CyanogenMod, no contest.
I really like LG's stock rom, so if I could get a debloated version of it I'd be happy. I have faith it will come.
@Walter21026 please stop whining about whining! this will transform you to the uber whiner!
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@Walter21026 please stop whining about whining! this will transform you to the uber whiner!
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this isnt whining, im fed up with reading this in off topic threads
BTW I would like to see a Xylon ROM:good:
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i really like lg's stock rom, so if i could get a debloated version of it i'd be happy. I have faith it will come.
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you don't need an unlocked bootloader to flash a rom. you just need an exploit. too many people are saying this and it's not true.
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vegetaleb said:
This biggest problem is how they will implement the 3 virtual buttons in custom roms?
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Are u serious? Cyanogenmod can have onscreen buttons if need be.
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ROMS for KT version
Is anyone actively developing any ROMS for the KT version F320?
Cyanogen Mod. That is exactly what I'm hoping for.
I am curious to know how/if the "Knock on" feature will be implemented.
I'm already dreading having to use the rear power button every single time I want to wake the device. "Knock on" does not yet work with any Launcher that I have tried. The status bar still works as a shutdown, but I've hidden my status bar. I've been relegated to assigning my app drawer button as a shutdown while assigning a swipe action to the app drawer button to activate the app drawer. I don't mind this implementation, but how will custom roms be able to implement "Knock on"?
If I can't use "Knock on" to wake the device, I'll be a little upset. I'd rather not have to give my phone the reach around every time I want to use it.
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I really like LG's stock rom, so if I could get a debloated version of it I'd be happy. I have faith it will come.
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Agree with you. I just want to get a debloated version. More ram usable.
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I really like LG's stock rom, so if I could get a debloated version of it I'd be happy. I have faith it will come.
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For now you could just freeze or uninstall all those apps for the time being, at least if ram is your concern you could free up 600 mb of ram. But shutting down these services will have a positive impact on your phones resources without a doubt.
Walter21026 said:
For now you could just freeze or uninstall all those apps for the time being, at least if ram is your concern you could free up 600 mb of ram. But shutting down these services will have a positive impact on your phones resources without a doubt.
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I'm running CleanROM 1.1 and there's a noticeable UI speed improvement over stock. I think I'll stay with this rom for a while... best Android experience I've ever had.
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I'm running CleanROM 1.1 and there's a noticeable UI speed improvement over stock. I think I'll stay with this rom for a while... best Android experience I've ever had.
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Clean rom is only available to AT&T right now, this is the best methodology for debloating the OS outside of having the debloated rom.
tweston1 said:
Cyanogen Mod. That is exactly what I'm hoping for.
I am curious to know how/if the "Knock on" feature will be implemented.
I'm already dreading having to use the rear power button every single time I want to wake the device. "Knock on" does not yet work with any Launcher that I have tried. The status bar still works as a shutdown, but I've hidden my status bar. I've been relegated to assigning my app drawer button as a shutdown while assigning a swipe action to the app drawer button to activate the app drawer. I don't mind this implementation, but how will custom roms be able to implement "Knock on"?
If I can't use "Knock on" to wake the device, I'll be a little upset. I'd rather not have to give my phone the reach around every time I want to use it.
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Knock on works with 3rd party launchers. You have to knock on the status bar. The screen still comes on using 3rd party launchers in my testing.
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adamfair said:
Knock on works with 3rd party launchers. You have to knock on the status bar.
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With many launchers you can also use the double tap gesture (I use Nova) and assign it to the app "screen off and lock" in the app store. Works seamlessly with no noticeable difference than stock launcher.
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Unlocked boot loader or not, I can load nodded Ron's and flash zip files and retain root to my apps And not just adb. This phone supersedes my expectations and I'm happy with what I bought. As for CM...never met such an overrated ROM in my life. To each their own. This phone and development will soon happen...
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This biggest problem is how they will implement the 3 virtual buttons in custom roms?
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LOL, Um nexus devices anyone?
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I am not a fan of vanilla Android, I like the LG UI and also their launcher. I will be happy with some more themes for the stock themer, tweaks to remove things here and there and edit the status bar, notification area etc. Really I love this phone so much stock that for me its just a few things I want to be able to change. As far as a rom ported over, I have been flashing for a few years here and it was just weeks ago while I had the HTC One that I flashed ViperOne rom from Team Venom. I never used a rom that gave so much control and options in such an easy and well packaged form, turning in my One for the G2 would have been so much easier had I not had to give up Viper.
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
Agreed.
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28cliff said:
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
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If you have grandfathered unlimited, I wouldn't dump that for a virgin carrier.
I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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What's your feeling on the subject?
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Well, since you asked:
The updates to the G3 (including to v5.0) are underwhelming.
As a software developer for over 40 years, I'd like to see more testing before release, not less. Or would we like to be in the shoes of Apple users, who can't boot after an update?
Yes, I look forward to updates, but mostly out of curiosity.
Updates almost never include what I'd like to see added (or removed).
I don't worship my computing devices. I'm interested in what they can do, not the latest UI look (not that it's what you are looking for, but many are).
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I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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i also have verizon unlimited, I have been on skydragon 5.0/4.2 kernel for a while now. The wifi has been fixed, I love the phone, the camera is not an iphone camera (sadly, I think they win hands down on the camera), but it is still a great camera. I would recommend you install the hotspot mod from xdabbeb and look into the xcam lg 6.24 app (camera app, for stock roms though, personally, I like it over stock on the lg). I've never used cm, I sort of like stock roms (was on jasmine a long time before skydragon), but I think that you'll like the phone, I also have xposed installed. I haven't had ram issues at all, but I am not a gamer so not sure what your needs are. The 24b modem has been great for me once it was updated. On updates, yes, it has been slow coming from verizon (or lg), but mostly that is a stagefright type fix, and since lgg4 has launched, I just don't think that we are high priority on getting out those updates. I have hear "rumors" that our next update will not be until marsmallow, but they are just that...rumors. Hope you like the g3, personally, I love it.
Thanks, tmord1, that's very helpful information.
All I really want is a nice platform with minimal bloat, high performance and reliability, and the ability to wireless tether on LTE. I am an infrastructure systems and network administrator, so my concerns are along those lines: what makes a device fast, robust and capable, and if possible bypassing the cages that the vendors mandate.
I get my device delivered tomorrow, so I will look into the methods for root and TWRP install. I have unlocked and rooted many devices, going back to the Galaxy Nexus 1 and original Galaxy Tab. So, Odin and ADB don't' bother me.
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If the camera is important to you, updating / patching to CM 12.1 will affect the camera. Apparently, LG camera driver is proprietary (for the laser focus, etc) and not available on ASOP roms.
I loved CM 12.1 on the G3, but I was unhappy with third party camera apps. I had to go back to stock for the camera.
It's a good phone, though.
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The latest update 35b and especially the roms based on it like Jasmine 9.1 really improved the phone. I don't feel any need to upgrade devices and feel like the software is much improved even over the kitkat stock rom that I thought was a great start. Lollipop before 5.1.1 was problematic itself and you can blame Google for that.
Agreed 100% the 35 b update made a world of difference as far as speed. The phone is much faster than its ever been on any ROM imho. Btw, has any other carrier updated to 5.1.1?
I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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If you haven't tried JasmineROM 9.1 or SkyDragon 6.x, you might want to give them a try. Both based on the new 5.1.1 stock and it runs really well!
Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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We are talking the LG G3, not nexus phones and google fi, at least I am.
LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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i believe you are a bit incorrect with your efuse analogy, its actually a Qfuse (on the 6p anyways).
post 1 and 2 here, should clear things up a bit for you.
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just a heads up, google fi has nothing to do with nexus phones or updates, other than the fi carrier service can only be used on a nexus at this time, and possibly will never be expanded to non google devices.
I think software updates are a problem for any carrier android devices. Most have to wait a month to a couple for a update that an international device gets. This is so annoying. But something that's even more annoying is how most carrier devices come with bootloaders that cannot be unlocked or so locked up it takes month to find a way to bypass them. I had Galax s4 and I bought it once I knew TWRP could be installed. Then when the g3 was released I wanted it but waited until developers got TWRP working then bought my g3. I'm probably gonna keep my G3 until Cyanogenmod stops supporting it or it dies. What ever comes 1st.
I know this device is old.. its the only one I have right now and have no clue if i'd ever get the money to upgrade.. just curious how many people still check this forum or if i'm one of the only few...
Also if you are a typical visitor.. maybe post up so I can get to know this Note II community.
Thanks!
interesting.. 10 views already and no votes or posts... lol..
i see it has 23 views.. and 2 responses. Great! so there is still some life here. Are any developers still here?
I still use this device for gaming only. I play Underworld Empire via WiFi/mobile hotspot. Have multiple toons in the games . It is rooted and running TeamOctos MM weekly build rom.
I use my old Note II as a training device for my 6 year old. The thing is a tank.
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thanks guys for responses! So i'm guessing there aren't anymore developers still working on this phone?
Not sure if there is any that hangs around this forum. TeamOctos has their rom on their own website, I'm glad they still make weekly builds for this phone. Runs pretty smoothly for me.
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Not sure if there is any that hangs around this forum. TeamOctos has their rom on their own website, I'm glad they still make weekly builds for this phone. Runs pretty smoothly for me.
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First Off, thanks for the response!
Second, Yeah i would love to go with a newer weekly build and version of android.. .. but I just really like to have screen options to turn screen off, bring up power menu, and have options for screenshot and screen record. I had forgotten about the power of XPosed Framework ( which R3D utilizes ) and perhaps that could help make OCTos more useful for me..
I also do like some of the touchwiz features that I can use with the S-Pen.. so i'm torn.. LOL
I have xposed installed along with TeamOctos, gravity box mm module installed. Since TeamOctos rom have most of the features, I scantily use the gravity box options. Don't wanna break anything lol. I find the s-pen was more a gimmick than anything else. The capacitive buttons don't work with the pen, have to manually press with finger (this was fixed with the Note 3, which I sold). Also there are 3rd party apps that can do just about the same as the Samsung spen apps.
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I have xposed installed along with TeamOctos, gravity box mm module installed. Since TeamOctos rom have most of the features, I scantily use the gravity box options. Don't wanna break anything lol. I find the s-pen was more a gimmick than anything else. The capacitive buttons don't work with the pen, have to manually press with finger (this was fixed with the Note 3, which I sold). Also there are 3rd party apps that can do just about the same as the Samsung spen apps.
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yeah i was using that for a little bit.. but I noticed the overall sound volume seemed to be lower... when I went back to 4.4.2 , i could really hear the difference... i'm not sure if that is a AOSP issue or what.. do you notice it?
Yes unfortunately it is because of AOSP. I remember having to manually editing a mixer.xml file to increase the volume but still wasn't close to the sound level of TW rom. I got use to the low lvls after a while.
Now I don't use it as my daily driver so sound isn't really an issue anymore. Performance and battery life is what I'm looking for so it's ideal.
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amoot329 said:
Yes unfortunately it is because of AOSP. I remember having to manually editing a mixer.xml file to increase the volume but still wasn't close to the sound level of TW rom. I got use to the low lvls after a while.
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Ahh ok thank you. that makes me feel a lot better to know it wasn't just me that noticed it and that it wasn't directly related to my phone or my flash status...
so I guess its not an easy fix or even possible since it wasn't addressed when this phone was still being developed... darn..
I really don't recall what the reasoning was, if it was due to drivers or software. It can be remedied by editing the sound file, I believe someone has done it with this phone. Do a post search for low sound or mixer.xml on here.
Haha not trying to sell AOSP roms or anything but I find them more useful with their options. Isn't that the main reason people use Android phones, for their customization?
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amoot329 said:
I really don't recall what the reasoning was, if it was due to drivers or software. It can be remedied by editing the sound file, I believe someone has done it with this phone. Do a post search for low sound or mixer.xml on here.
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i'll check it out. thanks!
amoot329 said:
Haha not trying to sell AOSP roms or anything but I find them more useful with their options. Isn't that the main reason people use Android phones, for their customization?
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HA yes.. but i guess for those of us that don't have multiple phones to try out different ROMs and updates :silly: constantly have to find the happy medium between stability, functionality and customization.. Right now i'm gonna stick with TW 4.4.2 (at least on my Note II) since I need to have these things on my phone for me to use it as a daily driver:
1. Stable (won't freeze up / random reboots / random power offs / FC'ers)
2. Camera - Camera must be able to take great photos (at least as good as the physical camera is)
3. Sound - Must have great sounding audio for voice calls / speakerphone / ringtones and for media watching
4. Functional - Must be able to not miss calls / notifications or messages and connect to data for internet
5. Battery - Battery must be decent to good.. want it to be able to last at least 1 day of medium to heavy use..
amoot329 said:
Yes unfortunately it is because of AOSP. I remember having to manually editing a mixer.xml file to increase the volume but still wasn't close to the sound level of TW rom. I got use to the low lvls after a while.
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Hey.. I just flashed back to OCTos, but i can't find the Mixer_paths.xml in the System/ETC folder... can you help?
Thanks!
Jaws4God said:
Hey.. I just flashed back to OCTos, but i can't find the Mixer_paths.xml in the System/ETC folder... can you help?
Thanks!
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You are correct there. I could not find it either myself. I wonder if TeamOctos even included it in their build for this phone. I checked with another phone of mine (LG G3) thats running the same ROM. It has the mixer_paths.xml in the folder system/ETC. May have to contact them to find out why... Sorry, like I've mentioned, I don't use my Note II as a daily driver so haven't had the need to increase the sound levels. I wonder if its possible to just copy the file from another ROM?
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You are correct there. I could not find it either myself. I wonder if TeamOctos even included it in their build for this phone. I checked with another phone of mine (LG G3) thats running the same ROM. It has the mixer_paths.xml in the folder system/ETC. May have to contact them to find out why... Sorry, like I've mentioned, I don't use my Note II as a daily driver so haven't had the need to increase the sound levels. I wonder if its possible to just copy the file from another ROM?
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yeah i thought about that but nervous with all that modifications either messing something up or not even getting it as loud as TW..
right now i think ill stay with a 4.4.2 rom and use xposed to get the features i like. do wish i had 6.0 but have to be happy with what i got. ?
Sorry I couldn't have been more helpful. Hope things will look up for you and that you may be able to afford a newer phone. This years phone releases haven't been all the great, maybe next year will see some really great improvements. The biggest thing is the battery life in most cell phones nowadays (unless you have removable option). Manufacturers will never give you a better battery/longer life because they want consumers to keep buying newer phones. Batteries usually only have a lifetime of about ~1.5 years, the more you charge, the less it will hold a charge. Forces people to buy new phones
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Sorry I couldn't have been more helpful. Hope things will look up for you and that you may be able to afford a newer phone. This years phone releases haven't been all the great, maybe next year will see some really great improvements. The biggest thing is the battery life in most cell phones nowadays (unless you have removable option). Manufacturers will never give you a better battery/longer life because they want consumers to keep buying newer phones. Batteries usually only have a lifetime of about ~1.5 years, the more you charge, the less it will hold a charge. Forces people to buy new phones
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yeah true.. and for me its difficult because i'm fairly picky with what I want in the phone... seems like i haven't actually found a "perfect" one yet... several will have 80 to 90% but some will be missing 1 major thing i want.. and then i have to decide how important that is... So far from all the phones i had.. I think my Nexus 5 would probably me my all time favorite... of course I would have preferred an AMOLED display, front facing speakers and better cameras... but again.. had to pick and choose... the HTC 10 was amazing as well.. but I did have some issues with my LTE signal dropping.. so not sure if it was a fluke or because of my Total Wireless service? maybe the ROM.. idk.. LOL
Hmm favorite all time, may have to go with my Note 3 til I sold it. Had it with Verizon, unfortunately the bootloader was locked and when I updated to Jasmine rom, screwed up and lost root. It was a great phone, s pen is so useful, removable battery, amoled display, SD card slot. Camera was alright, my V10 excels in that department! I'm with T-mobile now, service is great for where I need it and their phones are mostly bootloader unlocked. Can easily root them.
Watching Floss Carter on YouTube, with his review of HTC 10. His biggest negative factor is that the phone is too small for him. Everything else is good, he even mentions that HTC should've made two options like HTC 10 and 10+.
His top 5 phones:
1: Note 5
2: Nexus 6p
3: iPhone 6s+
4: S7 edge
5: LG G5
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I see the Mi 9 will be receiving an update soon which will add extra shortcuts to the fingerprint unlock menu etc
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/03/08...print-shortcut-function-update-this-week/amp/
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I see the Mi 9 will be receiving an update soon which will add extra shortcuts to the fingerprint unlock menu etc
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/03/08...print-shortcut-function-update-this-week/amp/
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Would be good if this menu can be customized in the global ROM too
anyway, i'll switch to xiaomi.eu once my bootloader is unlocked, this rom includes all china beta features as well.
What's the main difference from Global Beta?
Flash-User said:
anyway, i'll switch to xiaomi.eu once my bootloader is unlocked, this rom includes all china beta features as well.
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What's the main difference from Global Beta?
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Hi Justintime,
i'll just copy the text from another forum:
China Build (CN)
The China Build doesn't contain Google Apps and Services (GAPPS) and contains some Chinese apps and services, which according to some is called bloatware, but for Chinese people those are actually very useful. The problem of not having GAPPS can be easily solved by heading to this thread:Find all the Google Apps in Google installer! Just install the app then in it contains all the Google apps, Google Service Frameworks, Google Account Manager and Google Play Services necessary for you to use it as a full fledged normal Android phone. China ROMs usually comes with more features than Global ROMs, as they have no conflicting copyrights issues and have less restrictions than the Global market. There will be certain elements of Chinese within, as translation work might not be absolutely complete for certain parts of the ROM. Also, Google integration via installation through applications might be imperfect and could cause issues.
Global Build (MI)
Preferred by most global users, this build comes with full GAPPS without the Chinese apps and services. Usually updated at a later period than the China build, the Global Build comes with English as the default language, with multilanguages for certain devices. In exchange for full GAPPS, users lose some features such as online music and Xunlei download accelerator, but gains some more usable storage space. The Global Build usually comes with only Stable ROMs, but the Redmi 1S is the first devices to receive a Global Developer Build. Today, nearly every internationally-launched device by Xiaomi has a Global Developer ROM. You get a native GAPPS integration, but loses on some functionalities, still a pretty good trade-off for many as installing GAPPS on a China ROM might still give problems with use of Google services. The other significant benefit over the China ROM is the language packs within (which is one of the reasons MIUI Global ROMs are usually bigger in size than MIUI China ROMs), which is great as many prefer their native tongue over English.
to tell you simple: xiaomi.eu rom combines all advatages of both roms in one
Any rumors about a US release date?
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vandyman said:
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There won't be.
Just curious, was debating picking up the Explorer Edition from Giztop, but will it's slightly different hardware cause problems for custom ROM's etc?
I got my Transparent version (Explorer Edition) yesterday. I had to go get a new sim card because the sim card holder in my S7 is broken and won't open. Cricket was a nightmare to deal with and tried to tell me the phone won't work with US carriers. They also kept telling me the IMIE was one short, which a quick google search (while at the store) explained to me, we had to look it up via the dialer and not in the settings screens. After that drama, I had to move everything over manually from the S7 as it didn't have GAPPS and didn't auto sync from the S7. So far like the phone, but am not a big fan of MIUI. I requested it be unlocked and now have to wait a boatload of time before I can remove the ROM that came with it. It sucks that the AI button is going to be useless for a while.
Nova launcher is working great though so far. I am not a big fan of how the notification bar works (I think I would like a two row option, lol) and for some reason gmail notification doesn't include the subject line. I also am mississing having the middle button at the bottom (of the screen) to wake the phone up. It's nice that they provided a case, but I wish it wasn't dark tint as it hides the cool back side of the Explorer Edition and I also would wish it was thick enough so the camera didn't stick out a little. If anyone has found a good clear TPU type case that is thicker, please do share/tell. Last, I am going to miss the notification light changing colors like it does on the S7, but overall its an awesome phone.
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So far like the phone, but am not a big fan of MIUI. I requested it be unlocked and now have to wait a boatload of time before I can remove the ROM that came with it. It sucks that the AI button is going to be useless for a while.
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even after unlocking bootloader (2 weeks, so mid-April) there still wont be any Custom ROMS available for this phone (except for the slight variations of the MIUI Official\EU\China Firmware) ..I would suspect nice Roms like Syberia will come in June at soonest.. maybe even July.
I myself also bought my mi9 WAYY too early and now regret it.. Should have waited a few more months when Development starts and I also may have gotten it cheaper later
(I installed Syberia on my Mix 2 immediately after getting it and unlocking it -which I also bought for just 249 a year ago- because the phone was already out many months.. I wont be able to do that with mi9 ;-(
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even after unlocking bootloader (2 weeks, so mid-April) there still wont be any Custom ROMS available for this phone (except for the slight variations of the MIUI Official\EU\China Firmware) ..I would suspect nice Roms like Syberia will come in June at soonest.. maybe even July.
I myself also bought my mi9 WAYY too early and now regret it.. Should have waited a few more months when Development starts and I also may have gotten it cheaper later
(I installed Syberia on my Mix 2 immediately after getting it and unlocking it -which I also bought for just 249 a year ago- because the phone was already out many months.. I wont be able to do that with mi9 ;-(
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Whilst there aren't many custom roms, it's still cool to be able to root and install Magisk, along with xposed too! You can tweak quite a bit with this, adblock, viper4android, substratum theme, debloat etc
Development is fun and believe me I miss it too, but we get weekly updates from roms like the EU rom, which has additional features and debloated too.
Give it a chance. Definitely early days, but we already have a great gcam port and whilst not many roms, it's just a matter of time surely
Which of the kernals are you running?
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Give it a chance. Definitely early days, but we already have a great gcam port and whilst not many roms, it's just a matter of time surely
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hmm, the ROM doesn't have spam blocking built in? I thought that was part of base Android for a while now? NM, looks like I found it. Not sure how good it will work in the USA. lol
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Just curious, was debating picking up the Explorer Edition from Giztop, but will it's slightly different hardware cause problems for custom ROM's etc?
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I have the Transparent Edition running the eu rom
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Which of the kernals are you running?
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Just stock, runs perfectly for me!
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hmm, the ROM doesn't have spam blocking built in? I thought that was part of base Android for a while now? NM, looks like I found it. Not sure how good it will work in the USA. lol
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Chrome has some basic ad blocking but nothing as good as using Adaway
Sorry, I was referring for robocalls and spam calls.
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Chrome has some basic ad blocking but nothing as good as using Adaway
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Sorry, I was referring for robocalls and spam calls.
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Ah I see!
I miss Google dialer for that, with caller ID or detecting spam
I am probably one of the only people that liked the Samsung dialer (lol). You can still use the Google dialer, I found an apk here on xda that works with our Mi9 EE. I never used that, I like a dialer that opens with the dialer screen, which is appears the Google one doesn't.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218
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Ah I see! I miss Google dialer for that, with caller ID or detecting spam
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I am probably one of the only people that liked the Samsung dialer (lol). You can still use the Google dialer, I found an apk here on xda that works with our Mi9 EE. I never used that, I like a dialer that opens with the dialer screen, which is appears the Google one doesn't.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218
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Thanks yeah, I like the Google dialer too but for the reason you mentioned I'm not as keen, plus with the MIUI dialer I like the inbuilt call recorder
Hi, I'm interested in picking up a BC62 but are any of the currently available ROMs stable enough for daily driving?
I'm still living in the last decade and prefer the fully custom experience, but I suppose just getting root and bootloader unlock may be sufficient nowadays...
Apologies if this question is an easy one or frequently asked, I couldn't find much.
as you see, there is no supported custom roms for this device. You can try GSI roms.
unfortunately price too high and community not enough for devs
Well technically there's one custom ROM...but idk if it's still gonna be supported...i may try to build some now that the guides are up tho
I see there are a few abandoned ones under development but there's little talk about living with them. Guess nobody really does, ha.
Circumstances are just pushing me to switch carriers (and therefore phones) and it's hard to part with the custom ROM life. At least Sony OEM software is decent and root/unlock is actually supported.
I look forward your future projects, @Ainz_Ooal_Gown !
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I see there are a few abandoned ones under development but there's little talk about living with them. Guess nobody really does, ha.
Circumstances are just pushing me to switch carriers (and therefore phones) and it's hard to part with the custom ROM life. At least Sony OEM software is decent and root/unlock is actually supported.
I look forward your future projects, @Ainz_Ooal_Gown !
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Im using GSI a11 on xq-bc72. Everything works fine battery life is pretty good.
Im debating if I should go back stock but im trying to build 13
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Im using GSI a11 on xq-bc72. Everything works fine battery life is pretty good.
Im debating if I should go back stock but im trying to build 13
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And how it works?
i just tried GSI a12 rom and camera didn`t work, ambient display didn`t work, autobrightness didn`t work. Back to stock
I used the Lineage ROM that's here ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-unofficial-lineageos-18-1-for-xperia-1-iii.4431701 ) for a few months. Unfortunately it comes with an outdated VideoPro app that can't be updated due to missing libraries (Theoretically you can if you mod a newer APK, but I'm not very experienced in coding and wasn't able to make it work). Also this meant Sony-specific apps like 3D creator, etc... won't install or update without modding them.
The only other problem I noticed was 5G NSA didn't work, just LTE with carrier aggregation at best. This wasn't a big problem personally since 5G NSA isn't reaaaallly an improvement all else being equal.
There were a couple other bugs / differences. The assistant button wouldn't function even with the Xperia+ app, and using the camera button to open the camera app behaved differently in a way that I didn't like. Probably a couple smaller things I'm forgetting about that I just lived with without issue.
Not being able to update or install Sony-specific apps was the deal breaker eventually. If I knew how to mod APK's to install/update them, I'd still be on that ROM today. It was actually really good. My battery life was noticeably better (probably mostly due to lack of 5G), I had no stability issues, the ROM was light and fast and I got all the customization that comes with Lineage out of the box.
i get it why there arent custom roms. what i dont get why arent any debloated stock rom either. sony does not have bloatware ?
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i get it why there arent custom roms. what i dont get why arent any debloated stock rom either. sony does not have bloatware ?
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Because there's no value in doing this.
Just get a root uninstaller and yeet the bloat.
As someone who tried a lot of roms, just don't. They all have serious demerits that are just not worth it.
Honestly it's quite jarring coming from Xiaomi/Samsung where custom roms are extensive are necessary or a worthwhile alternative respectively. I hoped we wouldn't need the size of community for this phone as everything is supposedly open source (or provided), but experience tells us otherwise. The phone is just too expensive -> phone doesn't go to eastern (read: eastern-europe and SE asia) developers and development just never takes off.
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it works pretty good. i dont care for 5g camera works. its pretty fast. thev only thing is camera from lockscreen and reverse wireless charrging