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Is this downgrading from ME7 to MDK possible? If so please guide me in the right direction.
Its not possible... Once you take the update theres no going back...
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So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
hondabomdc5 said:
So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
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Use the search button...this has been posted about a 1000 times...but yes you can root it but no custom recovery.
hondabomdc5 said:
So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
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You can root, but cant install custom recoveries or roms.
bfmetcalf said:
You can root, but cant install custom recoveries or roms.
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Thanks for being kind and thanks for the info. I did state that I was new and have been looking. I could have started a whole new thread but instead asked the question in here. I do want to install the Hyperdrive rom but since with ME7 you cant install roms...looks like i wont be rooting until somebody gets this figured out. Again, thanks for being cool and answering my question.
y can't we just odin back to mdk?
Stauf99 said:
y can't we just odin back to mdk?
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because of the bootloader will only allow signed packages to be installed on the phone and checks against older firmware and will not allow it. Unless you have the signed key you ain't flashing anything unless we find a workaround.
magneticzero said:
Use the search button...this has been posted about a 1000 times...but yes you can root it but no custom recovery.
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
This [email protected] sucks!
So, I'm stuck on ME7 as well (32GB S4, otherwise I'd just go down to the store and swap it, complaining about something -- seems they don't stock them at any local corporate stores).
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we have OMAP-Flash, which is like a low-level PROM flashing tool from the Samsung R&D team, and I could fix even a DEAD, or bricked phone with that. Is there something like that here to get back the original bootloader? I cant believe we're stuck on this crap... How 'bout a 2nd-init like my Droid-x days, or something slick like SafeStrap on the RAZR family?
...Just thinkin' "out loud".
IMGetwired said:
So, I'm stuck on ME7 as well (32GB S4, otherwise I'd just go down to the store and swap it, complaining about something -- seems they don't stock them at any local corporate stores).
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we have OMAP-Flash, which is like a low-level PROM flashing tool from the Samsung R&D team, and I could fix even a DEAD, or bricked phone with that. Is there something like that here to get back the original bootloader? I cant believe we're stuck on this crap... How 'bout a 2nd-init like my Droid-x days, or something slick like SafeStrap on the RAZR family?
...Just thinkin' "out loud".
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Short answer is 'no' - you're currently stuck with root as your best option. Hopefully this will change in the not-too-distant future.
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Yeah, this does suck.
Seems like we need someone to pick up the Dragonboard 8074 development kit to help us figure this out...even then, I'm sure Samsung has so many mods in there it'd be nuts to reverse engineer... Ugh, I'm so impatient! :silly:
Slimfast35 said:
So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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Because there for people that didn't get robbed by Samsung and update through the evil over the air update lol
Slimfast35 said:
So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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You're not quite understanding what a rom is and is not. There is no such thing as a rom for ME7. There are roms that use the ME7 base. They are flashable only by those who have the MDK bootloader. When a build number is listed for a rom, it is the build that the rom is based from.
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Slimfast35 said:
So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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The ROM's that the devs based on MDK have been updated with the ME7 code just like any good developer does. But the bootloader those users have is still from their MDK (original) install. Once you go ME7 you can never go back, downgrade, crossgrade or get beyond the bootloader, for now anyways. Someone will find a way.
Nm
Alright guys, you all are going to think, "Wow what the heck is a 15 year old doing on these forums,". Well, I'm here to customize my phone in different ways and also soon become a developer making ROM's and etc. So i would appreciate all the help i could get. I just got the S4 from Verizon, and I've been trying to change it, as TouchWiz is getting pretty boring. And I'm a teenager, so dont expect me to spend money on things that you guys might spend on, because i know my parents wont do that. I was an avid Apple Dev, and then i made the switch to android. Xcode, Cocoa, objective-c is what im used to, and im trying to learn about android's basic roots. I would appreciate all the help i get.
Thanks,
ppat324wi
Welcome to the forum, by a fellow 15 year old (;
First things first, you should probably make sure you have MDK on your S4 before you try anything, read up on it in the forums.
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Welcome to the forum, buddy.
You search this forum in deeply and get many information and many tips.
Oops.when I first got my s4, it asked for an update, and now I'm on ME7.
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Here's the root method for ME7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Note this is root only, there is currently no unlocked bootloader, which means no custom roms. But you can still do a lot with root access. For instance I froze all of the bloatware using the list provided in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395307
I now get about 24 hours of battery and a very zippy phone! I may be just fine with that improvement alone to not be concerned with custom roms. (well maybe until someone makes a kitkat rom).
There is a programmer working on porting a method for adding custom roms, called safestrap. You can follow the progress here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
Note that the first post mentions installation instructions, but currently this is in proof of concept stages so I would not advise installing until the method has been worked out.
denmalley said:
Here's the root method for ME7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Note this is root only, there is currently no unlocked bootloader, which means no custom roms. But you can still do a lot with root access. For instance I froze all of the bloatware using the list provided in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395307
I now get about 24 hours of battery and a very zippy phone! I may be just fine with that improvement alone to not be concerned with custom roms. (well maybe until someone makes a kitkat rom).
There is a programmer working on porting a method for adding custom roms, called safestrap. You can follow the progress here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
Note that the first post mentions installation instructions, but currently this is in proof of concept stages so I would not advise installing until the method has been worked out.
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Wow thanks! That really helps! Now i regret hitting that update button.
ppat324wi said:
Wow thanks! That really helps! Now i regret hitting that update button.
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Live and learn from a 55 year old. Good luck to you. Love to see new devs here and hope you persue that.
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ppat324wi said:
Wow thanks! That really helps! Now i regret hitting that update button.
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glad i could help. note that as of today safestrap (bootloader exploit/ability to do custom roms) is almost ready for prime time.
denmalley said:
Here's the root method for ME7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Note this is root only, there is currently no unlocked bootloader, which means no custom roms. But you can still do a lot with root access. For instance I froze all of the bloatware using the list provided in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395307
I now get about 24 hours of battery and a very zippy phone! I may be just fine with that improvement alone to not be concerned with custom roms. (well maybe until someone makes a kitkat rom).
There is a programmer working on porting a method for adding custom roms, called safestrap. You can follow the progress here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
Note that the first post mentions installation instructions, but currently this is in proof of concept stages so I would not advise installing until the method has been worked out.
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I am recently back on Android from iOS as well and used the root method mentioned in above post. It worked perfectly!
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Alright, nice to know that there is good feedback.I'll try it once I get home from school
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I have rooted my MJ7, and I now know that I can't really do anything. Now I am getting this annoying update popup from samsung every time I open my phone. Every time I try and install this update it fails. How can I get rid of this update pop up or make the update install work?
barnaby123 said:
As of right now I am rooted, but was unable to install TWRP recovery via GooManager or through the terminal commands listed on their website. It just didn't work. I would love to install CM11, but I obviously need recovery first. What are my options for recovery?
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You are out of luck only Baseband you can install a recovery on is MDK the first one shipped. You can however install a custom TW Rom with a program called Safestrap best of luck !
ahoslc said:
You are out of luck only Baseband you can install a recovery on is MDK the first one shipped. You can however install a custom TW Rom with a program called Safestrap best of luck !
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Thanks for this. I actually updated my question. Any chance you know the answer?
barnaby123 said:
Thanks for this. I actually updated my question. Any chance you know the answer?
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It most likely want's you to update to MK2. The reason it's not letting you is because you are rooted. Not sure what process to stop to get it to stop coming up.
ahoslc said:
It most likely want's you to update to MK2. The reason it's not letting you is because you are rooted. Not sure what process to stop to get it to stop coming up.
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Would I have better options if I were able to update to mk2?
barnaby123 said:
Would I have better options if I were able to update to mk2?
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I don't think so. I'm still on MJ7 and so are a lot of people. We just don't like ota of any kind that's all. I figured I wasn't taking anymore Chances. But as far as better options.. safestrap and Hyperdrive 12 are your only choices as of now.
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
So, as of now, those of us still running VRUEMJ7 with TWRP either stay with MJ7 or SafeStrap/HyperDrive?
mastridonicus said:
So, as of now, those of us still running VRUEMJ7 with TWRP either stay with MJ7 or SafeStrap/HyperDrive?
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Well anyone who is not on mdk can only use safestrap.
And si far Hyperdrive is our rom. Couple others are in the works though.
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
VRUEMJ7 bootloader unlock
Is there anyone actively working on unlocking MJ7 that has a blog/tumblr/thread/etc with ongoing status updates? I got this phone for xmas from my parents and aside from Touchwiz being a POS, I like it for the most part (a few form factor things that bug me with the fkn buttons but not much else) but I'd love to throw CWM and CM11 on it. Some news that it might be unlocked would be awesome; or, worst case, to know nobody is working on it so I can get over it and try to return it and replace it with something less Samsung-encumbered.
sanosuke001 said:
Is there anyone actively working on unlocking MJ7 that has a blog/tumblr/thread/etc with ongoing status updates? I got this phone for xmas from my parents and aside from Touchwiz being a POS, I like it for the most part (a few form factor things that bug me with the fkn buttons but not much else) but I'd love to throw CWM and CM11 on it. Some news that it might be unlocked would be awesome; or, worst case, to know nobody is working on it so I can get over it and try to return it and replace it with something less Samsung-encumbered.
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Here's one group of talented people working hard on it in their spare time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Very interesting to follow.
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
sanosuke001 said:
Is there anyone actively working on unlocking MJ7 that has a blog/tumblr/thread/etc with ongoing status updates? I got this phone for xmas from my parents and aside from Touchwiz being a POS, I like it for the most part (a few form factor things that bug me with the fkn buttons but not much else) but I'd love to throw CWM and CM11 on it. Some news that it might be unlocked would be awesome; or, worst case, to know nobody is working on it so I can get over it and try to return it and replace it with something less Samsung-encumbered.
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There are a few people still working on it, but their chances are slim to none of ever unlocking it. There's been a $5k bounty on unlocking this phone for the last 7 months with no luck. If you want a VZW S4 that you can flash ROM's on, get a Dev edition or an MDK build off Swappa.
Mistertac said:
Here's one group of talented people working hard on it in their spare time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Very interesting to follow.
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
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Thanks for the info! (Though at first glance it doesn't look to far along unfortunately...)
sanosuke001 said:
Thanks for the info! (Though at first glance it doesn't look to far along unfortunately...)
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Well I'm no dev/programmer so I can't say much about exactly how far they are but it's still nice to see people working together ya know
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
Mistertac said:
Well I'm no dev/programmer so I can't say much about exactly how far they are but it's still nice to see people working together ya know
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
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I'm a software developer so I understand a bit of what the first post was talking about but I'm not great at reverse engineering (but know how difficult it is). I wish I had the skillsets to help :/ Though, as you said, it is good to see people working together but bad that hellsdroid looks like he has legal issues precluding him from working on things at the moment...
Hello!
I am very new to XDA and looking for some direction. Please direct me to the right post if this has been already asked a million times but here it goes.
I have a verizon s4 with 4.3 and Mk2. I havent done anything with the phone yet except using custom launchers and icons. I want to install a pure kit kat on my device and dont care about warranty. I am very confused with all the different kernels, root procedures and looking for a step by step guide - call it unlocking, rooting and installing for dummies
Where should i start and is it even possible with my phone/carrier/baseband version.
Thanks in advance for your time and attention and have a good day!
R
rs32 said:
Hello!
I am very new to XDA and looking for some direction. Please direct me to the right post if this has been already asked a million times but here it goes.
I have a verizon s4 with 4.3 and Mk2. I havent done anything with the phone yet except using custom launchers and icons. I want to install a pure kit kat on my device and dont care about warranty. I am very confused with all the different kernels, root procedures and looking for a step by step guide - call it unlocking, rooting and installing for dummies
Where should i start and is it even possible with my phone/carrier/baseband version.
Thanks in advance for your time and attention and have a good day!
R
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Read this sticky thread in the General forum.
No kitkat currently for MK2.
Thanks a lot! any reason why there is none for Mk2. i did read the thread and was able to understand most of it. I guess i will hang around and wait till they release one.
Can you advise if my understanding is correct to have a stock kit kat cynaogen mod on my s4 verizon with mk2 ( when it is available)
1) unlock bootloader (with safe strap or loki)
2) root device - what tool to use?
3) flash a custom cyanogen mod
4) install gapps and other apps
Thanks again!
R
U r on mk2 firmware so u will not be able to run any aosp ROMs or kernels on ur phone til someone or @Hashcode has figured out a way for safestrap users. As of now we can root and install safestrap and then flash safestrap only ROMs with the correct modules.
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holla420 said:
U r on mk2 firmware so u will not be able to run any aosp ROMs or kernels on ur phone til someone or @Hashcode has figured out a way for safestrap users. As of now we can root and install safestrap and then flash safestrap only ROMs with the correct modules.
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Thanks for the info. What are some good safe strap rooms you suggest?
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Thanks for the info. What are some good safe strap rooms you suggest?
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Hyperdrive is beast. All of them have been my daily driver. If ur into aosp kinda rom check out foxhound. I haven't tried many since I'm a hyperdrive fanatic. I'm sure there r a few more that's solid
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yep, im running Hyperdrive RLS 12 on mk2 right now, I dont want to update to RLS14, because i use google wallet and a lot of users have been reporting problems using it.
ppat324wi said:
yep, im running Hyperdrive RLS 12 on mk2 right now, I dont want to update to RLS14, because i use google wallet and a lot of users have been reporting problems using it.
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Thanks everyone! I think im gonna checkout the foxhoud roms since i like the aosp feel close to kitkat. I will check back when i can run something very similar to stock kit kat on my mk2 s4 verizon
have a great weekend!
R
I'm on MDK and I've never tried a non-touchwiz ROM. I want to now. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me what the most popular / mainstream / well developed AOSP ROM is for the Verizon s4. I think I'd like to start my AOSP journey there.
Also, are the current crop of AOSP ROM fully functional? Or are there still some features of the S4 that aren't supported?
Thanks in advance.
-J
0reo said:
I'm on MDK and I've never tried a non-touchwiz ROM. I want to now. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me what the most popular / mainstream / well developed AOSP ROM is for the Verizon s4. I think I'd like to start my AOSP journey there.
Also, are the current crop of AOSP ROM fully functional? Or are there still some features of the S4 that aren't supported?
Thanks in advance.
-J
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Think I answered you in another thread about this topic but.. Try Mahdi, C ROM , Liquid Smooth, AICP ... They've all treated me well. They'll all run differently though for people so you'll just have to flash away and report back in their threads. Also I highly recommend using KToonsez AOSP-Kit Kat kernel with those. It's been nothing but stable for me.
Good luck!
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You really need to them yourself...
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Mistertac said:
Think I answered you in another thread about this topic but.. Try Mahdi, C ROM , Liquid Smooth, AICP ... They've all treated me well. They'll all run differently though for people so you'll just have to flash away and report back in their threads. Also I highly recommend using KToonsez AOSP-Kit Kat kernel with those. It's been nothing but stable for me.
Good luck!
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I thought AICP couldn't be used with Safestrap? I'm about to downgrade from 4.4.2 so I can root my phone but from everything I've seen you have to use safestrap to do so... which would effectively destroy being able to use AICP.
Blindprophet32 said:
I thought AICP couldn't be used with Safestrap? I'm about to downgrade from 4.4.2 so I can root my phone but from everything I've seen you have to use safestrap to do so... which would effectively destroy being able to use AICP.
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safestrap enabled phones can only use tw stock kernel based roms which exclude CM, ASOP and all the rest
Blindprophet32 said:
I thought AICP couldn't be used with Safestrap? I'm about to downgrade from 4.4.2 so I can root my phone but from everything I've seen you have to use safestrap to do so... which would effectively destroy being able to use AICP.
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Well you're correct but I was answering the OP who stated he was on an MDK S4.. which in turn means he's not on SafeStrap.
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Mistertac said:
Well you're correct but I was answering the OP who stated he was on an MDK S4.. which in turn means he's not on SafeStrap.
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Gotcha.. I'm new to rooting so I'm still trying to learn everything I can sorry about that. Every Verizon S4 I've seen people have used Safestrap on the SCH-I545. So I'm assuming that MDK is merely a different build correct?
Blindprophet32 said:
Gotcha.. I'm new to rooting so I'm still trying to learn everything I can sorry about that. Every Verizon S4 I've seen people have used Safestrap on the SCH-I545. So I'm assuming that MDK is merely a different build correct?
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Hey no problem!
MDK is the build that the Verizon S4 first shipped with and it allowed for a bootloader exploit called Loki which let's us run custom recoveries... Thus allowing AOSP ROMs like the ones I mentioned.
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Hey no problem!
MDK is the build that the Verizon S4 first shipped with and it allowed for a bootloader exploit called Loki which let's us run custom recoveries... Thus allowing AOSP ROMs like the ones I mentioned.
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Awesome thanks! Sadly the person I got my phone from worked at Verizon and had religiously updated the phone.....so I got the OTA 4.4.2 FNC5 build from day 1.... so no to partial downgrade and Root and try out hyperdrive 15 :good:
0reo said:
I'm on MDK and I've never tried a non-touchwiz ROM. I want to now. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me what the most popular / mainstream / well developed AOSP ROM is for the Verizon s4. I think I'd like to start my AOSP journey there.
Also, are the current crop of AOSP ROM fully functional? Or are there still some features of the S4 that aren't supported?
Thanks in advance.
-J
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297370
The OP's will describe whether it's AOSP or TW