Now that this phone is officially released, has anyone found a way to root it? I have the sprint version which is the ls992 and I want to root it. I saw a one click tool online but it's not in XDA so I don't think it's reliable. Thanks for any help
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By the way, in case any of you were wondering, I'm coming from the LG g3 (ls990). I like the smaller screen, the fingerprint reader is very responsive, I dislike the moved volume buttons, dislike the audio jack being moved to the top although it DOES sound better, actually a good bit clearer. It feels really good in my hand but does get hotter than the LG g3. The material on the back has a good grippy feel almost, it's not particularly slick which is a good thing. I could hardly use my g3 with the stock back because of how slick it was. The cameras are PHENOMENAL. All of the picture modes provided are outstanding and not just gimmicks in my opinion.
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JCase claims to have a root method already but refuses to release it... even with his rep I doubt his claims.
If the bootloader is unlockable, it should be relatively easy to do.
I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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So the Sprint version has BL locked?
islandfever said:
So the Sprint version has BL locked?
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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Well bad news from Tmobile - I currently have the sprint ls990 LG G3 and decided to make the move to tmobile for the G5 because I was sick of locked bootloaders. The tmobile g5 does indeed have an unlockable bootloader however, LG seems to be using a custom bootloader on the G5 that wont flash anything that isnt verified. Tmobile's G5 already has a TWRP build and noone can flash it because of dm-verity. Essentially the tmobile appears to have an unlocked bootloader but lg has changed the bootloader so that it cant flash anything. That's the current status and I should add that I have not been able to try anything for myself because my phone hasnt arrived yet. But if that is the case on T-Mobile, then it's going to be even harder on Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.
its locked but there's an unlock switch in the developers' options.
I came from lg g3 as well. Massive improvement and loving it so far.I have it thru verizon. Hoping for root soon that's all I really care about.
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ROOT????
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Not with a locked bootloader unless an exploit is found. It looks like the same uphill climb as with the SD820 S7/S7E now.
So for now no root, no development
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Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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May see something at a talk later this year
Omg, if anyone can get this thing rooted, I'll throw 50 bucks your way. This is the only thing keeping my from buying this device 0.0
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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Me too.
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This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
Locklear308 said:
This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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I think it mostly has to do with them not wanting the end user to be able to modify the device to get around things like paid hotspots and such. Carriers like sprint that have unlimited data but a paid by the GB hotspot plan potentially lose lots of money off of users getting it free with root. Also you probably have an ISP that rents you a cable modem. Those things are locked down and while you can buy your own - their locked down one, if modified can potentially increase speeds or bypass a meter. I think that ISPs (including cell carriers) like complete control so they can grab every penny and make it difficult to escape their grasps. Once again these are just my assumptions so I could be horribly wrong.
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Is the bootloader still being worked on? It seems like everyone has given up, so I was just wondering if there's any recent positive news on it.
Nope Samsung and Verizon have been doing their homework lately. It'll be pretty hard from now on with Samsung devices if they really got this bootloader situation down.
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I'll be bummed if they don't find a way in the 2 years I have this phone, but hey I'll get over it when my next device is going to be a Nexus. I'll never buy locked down ever again. But hey, at least we have Safestap! It's great we at least have SOME options to mess around even with this bootloader crap
That is true! very grateful for safe strap, honestly. I just can't believe how hard it is to crack this damn boot loader! I might go pick up a nexus, or even a failphone 5. I love Samsung, but not so much after this.
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That is true! very grateful for safe strap, honestly. I just can't believe how hard it is to crack this damn boot loader! I might go pick up a nexus, or even a failphone 5. I love Samsung, but not so much after this.
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You're going to complain about Samsung devices being locked down and go buy an iPhone?
Nexus 5 is the way to go for real freedom (without have to spend tons of money on 'dev' editions). Only problem is you won't be on Verizon's network with a Nexus phone that's for sure. Oh and I heard the HTC One's bootloader just got cracked? If that's true you might want to do that if you want to stay on Verizon.
I'm thinking about getting a one. I just dont know about the battery life. Wish it had expandable memory. I was just gonna get an iphone 4s for a month until I do my research on something else.
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I'm thinking about getting a one. I just dont know about the battery life. Wish it had expandable memory. I was just gonna get an iphone 4s for a month until I do my research on something else.
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Battery life is not bad... it should get you through a day of moderate use, but with heavy use you'll probably need a second charge... keep in mind that the Verizon version of the One removed the power saving mode thing for no good reason so technically the Verizon One will have worse battery life than others... but of course with custom roms you should be able to fix that.
Another thing to keep in mind is if you're in weak signal area the One won't be that great as the metal body makes reception not as good as the S4 or other plastic body phones. Also the GPS is better on the S4.
It is very hard to believe that the booloader will not be unlocked anytime soon on this phone. I love it so much!!!:thumbdown:
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So I decided enough was enough with all of the glitches and battery life issues on my Rezound and so I got the Galaxy S3. Personally? This phone is a beast and the features are a hit or miss. 1 or 2 seem gimmicky but the rest I find myself using on a consistent basis. I am falling in love with this phone. Simply put... if you want a cheap/free upgrade but some bang for your buck, go witb the S3. Or S4 if money is of no consequence. This might be my first Samsung device but it definitely won't be my last. I'm leaving HTC behind. Deuces.
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So I decided enough was enough with all of the glitches and battery life issues on my Rezound and so I got the Galaxy S3. Personally? This phone is a beast and the features are a hit or miss. 1 or 2 seem gimmicky but the rest I find myself using on a consistent basis. I am falling in love with this phone. Simply put... if you want a cheap/free upgrade but some bang for your buck, go witb the S3. Or S4 if money is of no consequence. This might be my first Samsung device but it definitely won't be my last. I'm leaving HTC behind. Deuces.
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Enjoy... Hope it works out for you. But in my opinion there are better choices for a very low cost, such as you could have waited til Friday and gotten a SGS4 for free at Best Buy or $99 (plus a $100 gift card back, so essentially free) at Wal-Mart with contract renewal though.
Good luck. With Knox being apparently unreversable when tripped, enjoy voiding your warranty if attempting to root. (OFC devs made a root method to not trip Knox, but all it takes in an OTA to fix that workaround). Samsung has some good features, but so does the new Sense 5 and 5.5
To each their own. At least you didn't choose crapple
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Enjoy... Hope it works out for you. But in my opinion there are better choices for a very low cost, such as you could have waited til Friday and gotten a SGS4 for free at Best Buy or $99 (plus a $100 gift card back, so essentially free) at Wal-Mart with contract renewal though.
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Awe crap. I didn't even take that into consideration.
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Awe crap. I didn't even take that into consideration.
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How long have you had it? Verizon usually has a 30 day "buyers remorse" window to return the device.
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How long have you had it? Verizon usually has a 30 day "buyers remorse" window to return the device.
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I've had it for about 3 days now. I think I might just wait until Black Friday and see how the deals are. If I find a better Verizon-compatible phone for 99 bucks or less I'll definitely be returning the S3. Honestly, though, I just want the S4. After using the Galaxy S3 for a few days I've really come to love it. So if I replace it with any device it'll definitely be a Samsung device.
You've made a good move! I loved HTC Devices, but their hit and miss performance and lack of flasship phones when I upgraded caused me to go the GS3 route after my dinc. I had my eyes on the Rezound for a long time and my wife wound up getting one (why I'm on this forum), but after the issues she's had with it (poor battery life, not charging after complete discharge, sluggish performance when not rooted, etc) I'm glad I went a the Samsung route.
Don't worry about the flash counter if you want to root there are fast ways around that. More importantly you don't have to worry about unlocking the bootloader AND gaining S-OFF, you only need to unlock the bootloader.
If you do root your GS3, I HIGHLY recommend baking up your IMEI, check the GS3 forums there are guides everywhere for it. It might seem like a foreign language, but it is vitally important!
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You've made a good move! I loved HTC Devices, but their hit and miss performance and lack of flasship phones when I upgraded caused me to go the GS3 route after my dinc. I had my eyes on the Rezound for a long time and my wife wound up getting one (why I'm on this forum), but after the issues she's had with it (poor battery life, not charging after complete discharge, sluggish performance when not rooted, etc) I'm glad I went a the Samsung route.
Don't worry about the flash counter if you want to root there are fast ways around that. More importantly you don't have to worry about unlocking the bootloader AND gaining S-OFF, you only need to unlock the bootloader.
If you do root your GS3, I HIGHLY recommend baking up your IMEI, check the GS3 forums there are guides everywhere for it. It might seem like a foreign language, but it is vitally important!
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Thanks! I appreciate it! But I definitely notice the difference between the Rezound and the S3, particularly battery life. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader seemed very foreign to me at first but it was quick, easy, and painless. I can't tell you how happy I am to actually be able to flash whatever I want whenever I want without plugging my phone up to my computer.
Anyway, what does baking the IMEI do?
I think it was a typo, he meant backing it up. Some Samsung devices loose their IMEI when using Odin. It is a rare occurrence, but can happen
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Anyway, what does baking the IMEI do?
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I think it was a typo, he meant backing it up. Some Samsung devices loose their IMEI when using Odin. It is a rare occurrence, but can happen
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Hahaha OOPS, yeah big typo there! I indeed meant back up NOT bake up. DO NOT put your phone in the oven!!:laugh:
Uzephi is correct, in short flashing on Samsung devices can cause a loss of the IMEI/ERI/MEID and consequently loss of connectivity to your cell carrier. Manually fixing it is a royal PITA and reflashing a backup (nandroid) from recovery doesn't fix it. I lost my IMEI/ERI/MEID on Saturday without a backup and finally got my GS3 back up to 100% functional last night (Tuesday). Backing up takes only minutes but can save DAYS of headache.
See this post and follow the instructions step by step. It's VERY simple.
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Dang I would totally go for that just because of the price! But, my contract isn't up until December...
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That'd be great if any contract on my account was almost up...
Or if I didn't have grandfathered unlimited...
So yeah. Any 2 year contract deals are out of the question.
I was very excited to see a sale on the S7 at Best Buy and was finally ready to relieve my nearly 4 years old Note II of duty until I came here to look into what mod options were available... only to find that there aren't any yet.
So, for those of you who have bought the S7 and have NOT returned it, what reasons have you decided to stick it out? Were you particularly deep in modding your phone before? Are you just happy with the few tools that have come out so far? Are you holding out hope for an unlocked bootloader eventually?
I haven't completely decided against it, but I'm seriously second guessing staying a Samsung customer after this fiasco. My Note II has been solid and a best, no replacements since I bought it on release, but I am way too into my modifications that I'm not sure I'd enjoy upgrading yet or seeking a third option.
Well I really enjoyed running custom ROMs in the past especially Aosp ones, but the fact that my s5 has cracked screen I not sure I'd want to go back. Since I got the free VR which would be worthless without either S6 or S7, I'm kind of stuck. I mean S6 is no go for me no SD card also IP rating. That aside it isn't to bad I was able to get themed pretty close to Aosp without root and I still have faith that we'll unlock this beast eventually. Samsung can't keep us down.
I came from a G3, before that a Note 2. I came back to samsung because I didn't like anything about the G5 and I was tired of some of the problems in LG's software on the G3. I had both devices rooted running debloated stock roms. The main reason I root is to get rid of apps I cannot uninstall and to block ads while sticking with a stock based rom to be able to use the features the manufacturer built into the software. I am disappointed that we may never get root or an unlocked bootloader as I would like to be able to uninstall some apps like facebook, FB messenger, the 4 amazon apps and the 3 sprint apps I cannot get rid of as well as run an ad blocker.
While I still cannot get rid of ads, There are ways to disable the apps using an app called "Package Disabler Pro" or you can use Gatesjuniors' Debloater which is what I'm using because its one less app on my phone, you can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 . I have Nova launcher installed and have no lag, call quality is great, mobile signal strength and speed is better than I've ever had with Sprint. My wifi reception is equally as impressive as I still have very usable wifi 30+ yards away from my router through the walls in my house. My G3 had trouble connecting 10 yards away (another reason I came back to samsung).
All that being said, this is the first phone I haven't rooted within the first week of getting it and honestly, other than an annoying ad occasionally (as most of my apps and games are paid for so I don't get many ads anyway) I really see no need to root this phone at this time. I've had the S7 for 3 weeks now and I love it. Wireless charging is awesome as I haven't plugged it in to charge since the first week and on that note the fast charging is even more awesome as it will charge 50% in 30 minutes. The peace of mind in the fact that if it gets wet its no big deal. The screen and performance is phenomenal. Its so much easier to handle than the Note 2 was, I don't miss the heft of that phone at all. If you can get the Gear VR I highly recommend it, I was not a believer and thought I would just sell it but decided to try it to see if it was any good and it made a believer out of me, the Gear VR is awesome and a lot of fun.
Get the S7, it is a huge upgrade to the Note 2 and well worth it in my opinion.
I've kept it because the only reason I rooted in the first place was the free hotspot, and it's not essential that I have it, so I can go without. I'm also keeping it because it's a huge improvement in specs over the S5 I had before.
Free stuff
I came from a SGS4. Heavily modded, custom rom etc... As someone mentioned earlier, the main reason I rooted was for free hotspot activation (and some other free -cough- stuff). For now, I have the hotspot activated for free without root. Happy as a clam. The phone is fantastic. Even if/when Sprint forces an update and locks down my hotspot mod, I love the phone and would not switch to something else. I can still put free -cough- stuff on my phone without root. I'm sure someone will eventually find a way to root the device.
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I came from a SGS4. Heavily modded, custom rom etc... As someone mentioned earlier, the main reason I rooted was for free hotspot activation (and some other free -cough- stuff). For now, I have the hotspot activated for free without root. Happy as a clam. The phone is fantastic. Even if/when Sprint forces an update and locks down my hotspot mod, I love the phone and would not switch to something else. I can still put free -cough- stuff on my phone without root. I'm sure someone will eventually find a way to root the device.
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Well Sprint just pushed an update that gets rid of the ability to mod the phone to use hotpot. The update became available yesterday and it locks down the APN settings to where they are greyed out.
I have had no such update. I just did the mod 1 hour ago. Working fine.
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I came from a G3, before that a Note 2. I came back to samsung because I didn't like anything about the G5 and I was tired of some of the problems in LG's software on the G3. I had both devices rooted running debloated stock roms. The main reason I root is to get rid of apps I cannot uninstall and to block ads while sticking with a stock based rom to be able to use the features the manufacturer built into the software. I am disappointed that we may never get root or an unlocked bootloader as I would like to be able to uninstall some apps like facebook, FB messenger, the 4 amazon apps and the 3 sprint apps I cannot get rid of as well as run an ad blocker.
While I still cannot get rid of ads, There are ways to disable the apps using an app called "Package Disabler Pro" or you can use Gatesjuniors' Debloater which is what I'm using because its one less app on my phone, you can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 . I have Nova launcher installed and have no lag, call quality is great, mobile signal strength and speed is better than I've ever had with Sprint. My wifi reception is equally as impressive as I still have very usable wifi 30+ yards away from my router through the walls in my house. My G3 had trouble connecting 10 yards away (another reason I came back to samsung).
All that being said, this is the first phone I haven't rooted within the first week of getting it and honestly, other than an annoying ad occasionally (as most of my apps and games are paid for so I don't get many ads anyway) I really see no need to root this phone at this time. I've had the S7 for 3 weeks now and I love it. Wireless charging is awesome as I haven't plugged it in to charge since the first week and on that note the fast charging is even more awesome as it will charge 50% in 30 minutes. The peace of mind in the fact that if it gets wet its no big deal. The screen and performance is phenomenal. Its so much easier to handle than the Note 2 was, I don't miss the heft of that phone at all. If you can get the Gear VR I highly recommend it, I was not a believer and thought I would just sell it but decided to try it to see if it was any good and it made a believer out of me, the Gear VR is awesome and a lot of fun.
Get the S7, it is a huge upgrade to the Note 2 and well worth it in my opinion.
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You can still block ads without root. adguard.com . Uses a local vpn to filter out the ads. It does consume a small amount of data to do so. Might not be the best choice on low data plans.
I know with the Sprint unlimited anything plan, they made mobile hotspot up to 3GB included. I don't actually use it much anyway, so that may be enough for me. I'm still so very on the fence.
People keep talking about free VR, how did you get it for free??
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I know with the Sprint unlimited anything plan, they made mobile hotspot up to 3GB included. I don't actually use it much anyway, so that may be enough for me. I'm still so very on the fence.
People keep talking about free VR, how did you get it for free??
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Apart of a pre-order promo which I would guess is over now.
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I know with the Sprint unlimited anything plan, they made mobile hotspot up to 3GB included. I don't actually use it much anyway, so that may be enough for me. I'm still so very on the fence.
People keep talking about free VR, how did you get it for free??
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I'm on the Sprint unlimited everything plan. I could not activate the hotspot without the mod. Of course, I activated my phone via website. But then, that's how I got my msl code to mod the apn. Oh well.
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Apart of a pre-order promo which I would guess is over now.
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Ahhh, gotcha. Then I guess I'm out of luck on that one. Best Buy has a pretty good promo for $99 right now with a free wireless charger, so I guess that eats the cost of the VR if you wanted to buy it. I'm thinking about it.
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I'm on the Sprint unlimited everything plan. I could not activate the hotspot without the mod. Of course, I activated my phone via website. But then, that's how I got my msl code to mod the apn. Oh well.
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That's strange. Are you on the $75 plan? It's supposed to be included.
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Ahhh, gotcha. Then I guess I'm out of luck on that one. Best Buy has a pretty good promo for $99 right now with a free wireless charger, so I guess that eats the cost of the VR if you wanted to buy it. I'm thinking about it.
That's strange. Are you on the $75 plan? It's supposed to be included.
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Well I was. Bestbuy did not want to honor the $99.99 sale price with 2 year activation (my current contract had expired at the beginning of the month) as they said Sprint wouldn't let them. So I chewed Sprint up and down until they pushed the upgrade through at $99.99. So I did tge activation swap through the website. Now I see I'm on a DIFFERENT unlimited plan. Some kinda "framily" plan for $30. Oh well. Still unlimited
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I have had no such update. I just did the mod 1 hour ago. Working fine.
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You can still block ads without root. adguard.com . Uses a local vpn to filter out the ads. It does consume a small amount of data to do so. Might not be the best choice on low data plans.
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I have unlimited data so it's not a worry.
I use about 100gb a month on data with hotspot. S7 not my option anymore. LG G5 is next.
Yeah, I think I'm going to hold off as well at this point. I want to see if they will bend under pressure.
eloko said:
I use about 100gb a month on data with hotspot. S7 not my option anymore. LG G5 is next.
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T-Mobile has announced the LG G5 will have a locked bootloader. Will have to see if other providers will follow suit.
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T-Mobile has announced the LG G5 will have a locked bootloader. Will have to see if other providers will follow suit.
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What?! Oh man... Tmo and sprint are the unlocked ones.. But if tmo is locked, more likely sprint will...
Seriously?! What are these companies thinking? Do they not realize how much of their sales is due to the modifiable side of their phones?
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Seriously?! What are these companies thinking? Do they not realize how much of their sales is due to the modifiable side of their phones?
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That is exactly why I moved from iOS to android. The ability to take 3rd party apps, straight out of the box and modify bloatware, the ui, etc...
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That is exactly why I moved from iOS to android. The ability to take 3rd party apps, straight out of the box and modify bloatware, the ui, etc...
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The first part of this post will be my response to the OP post. The second part will address the user I quoted.
I actually bought this phone because I am losing my desire to mod/flash/root etc. While it's been fun the past 8 years or so, I've realized it has consumed TONS of my time. I can honestly say it got to the point where when I got home, the first thing I would do is get on my laptop or the app and open XDA. Next thing I know I'm flashing a new ROM only to find out in a few days or so that it lacks "this" feature or "that" feature isn't working properly and I'm back on xda looking for something different. It gets old having to reflash the phone because I "couldn't hear outgoing calls" or incoming mms wasn't working. I know seasoned xda members know as well as I that once you tweak one thing it inherently messes up another. Anyhow, this phone is a beast without root. No need for overclock, or even flashing a CM/AOSP rom. If I wanted that I would've picked up a Nexus. As a previous usuer mentioned, adblocking is possible without root as well as hotspot. I'm happy with my S7 and keeping it. Now regarding the user's quote, Samsung is the driver of Android sales worldwide. They want to keep that spot and unfortunately the vast majority of their users don't care about root. Samsung is taking on Apple knuckle to knuckle and in order to win over customers from Apple, they will have to provide the same level of security and functionality as Apple which means no root. Winning over Apple customers will yield them way more profit in the short and long run vs. providing unlock for their "power" users. I'm not cheering on Samsung to continue making their devices "NSA" friendly, but in a world of ever increasing security threats particularly of the cyber nature, rooting will become increasingly more difficult as OEMs try to gain their customers' confidence in the security of their mobile devices.
I lost my v20 (T-Mobile rooted) about a month ago, so i went ahead and purchased another v20 hoping I could root it again but got the latest firmware which is locked up just like G6. I returned it.
So I'm just curious. What percentage of you guys would buy an unrootable phone and what percentage would not.
justthefacts said:
I lost my v20 (T-Mobile rooted) about a month ago, so i went ahead and purchased another v20 hoping I could root it again but got the latest firmware which is locked up just like G6. I returned it.
So I'm just curious. What percentage of you guys would buy an unrootable phone and what percentage would not.
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I have never cared about root and thus never rooted my phones, so yeah I don't really care if a phone is rootable or not
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I don't find root really all that necessary anymore and haven't bothered since I've had the V20. So not worried about it at the moment with the V30.
like a few around here I'm getting the V30 (most likely) for the hardware, and I'll need root for V4A. so yeah, no root, no purchase. period. I'll keep my htc10 or something.
I won't buy a phone I don't own, and that means root. From Day 1.
Root for me is mandatory I have never owned a phone I couldn't root or that had a locked boot-loader.
I want a V30, but nope, gotta wait till the US998 AND a full bootloader unlock is released.
These phones are far too expensive,for me to NOT to have full control.
If I want a locked device, at $800, I'll buy a iPhone 8+ with better software,battery life, processor, ram management etc.
Google and Qualcomm are crazy with this new locked down policy
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I lost my v20 (T-Mobile rooted) about a month ago, so i went ahead and purchased another v20 hoping I could root it again but got the latest firmware which is locked up just like G6. I returned it.
So I'm just curious. What percentage of you guys would buy an unrootable phone and what percentage would not.
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melihcarter said:
I have never cared about root and thus never rooted my phones, so yeah I don't really care if a phone is rootable or not
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CHH2 said:
I don't find root really all that necessary anymore and haven't bothered since I've had the V20. So not worried about it at the moment with the V30.
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I think the real question is, why the hell is anyone on here, who don't root or custom rom? and the first 2 posts you get, are both them lol.....
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I think the real question is, why the hell is anyone on here, who don't root or custom rom? and the first 2 posts you get, are both them lol.....
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Why do you (not you specifically but the collective that seems to be here at XDA) all whine about cellphone cameras not turning out photos you like when you should all be rooting your phones and writing new noise reduction and sharpening algorithms instead of complaining about something you all clearly don't understand properly?
I come here to get general information on phones and new program ports. My contribution back is to maybe try to explain what the heck is going on with cellphones' cameras since for a board all high and mighty on getting the most of their phones but don't seem to understand the underpinnings of something they all want to complain about and probably don't have the ability to change if they really wanted to. Yes, I understand rooting, how it's done and why it's done. I've been with Android since the G1 days. At some point though, it has gotten to the point where I don't really see a need for myself to root my device anymore. My V20 worked. My V30 so far seems to work.
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I think the real question is, why the hell is anyone on here, who don't root or custom rom? and the first 2 posts you get, are both them lol.....
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Well it's a thread about v30 which I have been following for a while. The question was asked if we care for rooting or not which means he was expecting answers from both sides, and being on xda doesn't require love for rooting. So these are my reasons to be here cheers
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So v30 bootloader will not be able to be unlocked?
Lmax579 said:
So v30 bootloader will not be able to be unlocked?
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Not on the carrier version.
Wtf that's messed up
Couldn't care less
Just bought the Verizon V30. My plan is to wait until the unlocked version is released and the developers have a chance to get the bootloader unlocked, create custom ROMS, etc., and then (maybe) sell the V30 and get an unlocked version.
This is my first unrooted phone since my first HTC. The only thing that I really miss is the ability to create nandroid backups. I thought that I would miss the ad blocker more than I do, but since most of my apps are ad free it hasn't been that big of a deal.
I say "maybe" to getting an unlocked phone is that I don't want to give up WiFi calling, and so far having an unrooted phone is nowhere near as frustrating as I thought it would be. I also thought that having a silver phone instead of a black phone would be annoying, but it actually looks great.
Amd4life said:
I want a V30, but nope, gotta wait till the US998 AND a full bootloader unlock is released.
These phones are far too expensive,for me to NOT to have full control.
If I want a locked device, at $800, I'll buy a iPhone 8+ with better software,battery life, processor, ram management etc.
Google and Qualcomm are crazy with this new locked down policy
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Agree 100%, everyone Android I have owned has been rooted, and running a custom ROM. I have had a few iPhone's over the years and they were stock not JB, and it's actually not a bad phone stock, with the Ad Blocking apps, etc... But iOS is too locked down for me.
After using a non-rooted phone for a year, my answer is a strong HELL-NO! I will never own an unrooted phone again. I plan to get a V30, but I will wait until the bootloader is unlocked and I can root it with Magisk. Locked bootloaders are for iOS users.
I've searched and just got my new S9+ coming from LG and forums here are so different in gathering info. Is this variant rootable yet? If so can someone post a link... In the mean time I'll keep searching. :silly:
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I've searched and just got my new S9+ coming from LG and forums here are so different in gathering info. Is this variant rootable yet? If so can someone post a link... In the mean time I'll keep searching. :silly:
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Nope it's not, and will be a loooooooong time before it is.
Well? After much research I was able to disable bloatware, get YouTube ad free and some more all without root. Honestly? This phone is good enough not to root really. I usually rooted to get a kernel to speed things up and get less lag, amazingly there's no need. Also for Xposed but I also don't see the need. So waiting for something that now I feel is not needed is ok. But having the itch to root will always exist. Lol
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Well? After much research I was able to disable bloatware, get YouTube ad free and some more all without root. Honestly? This phone is good enough not to root really. I usually rooted to get a kernel to speed things up and get less lag, amazingly there's no need. Also for Xposed but I also don't see the need. So waiting for something that now I feel is not needed is ok. But having the itch to root will always exist. Lol
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Well now you got me happy cuz this is my first phone that's locked down, and Im shocked at how much bloat there is. Fnucking Facebook?
If you can point me to some helpful threads that would be awesome - I keep coming up with Exynos threads
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Well now you got me happy cuz this is my first phone that's locked down, and Im shocked at how much bloat there is. Fnucking Facebook?
If you can point me to some helpful threads that would be awesome - I keep coming up with Exynos threads
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I'm on Snapdragon directly from T-mobile in the US.
Very little bloatware installed. And what was there I was able to uninstall easily including Facebook.
This was the first device I've owned that I've been able to do this without root.
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I have a question if i was to purchase a Samsiung galaxy s9+ from samsung themselves, will i be able to root the phone at that point.
I have been on iPhone for a long period of time because it is so easy to Jailbreak a phone once the program comes out, its just one click and done. I always recalled android phone goes through steps in order to be rooted, and i do mean really long steps, and the smallest mess up would brick the phone, i know now that the bricking the phone is a lot less likely. But it is still hard to root the phone..
Also back in the day, all android phones can be rooted except for Verizon Android phones. Now all carrier Samsung galaxy phones cant be or takes time to root. things have changed in the community i see.
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I have a question if i was to purchase a Samsiung galaxy s9+ from samsung themselves, will i be able to root the phone at that point.
I have been on iPhone for a long period of time because it is so easy to Jailbreak a phone once the program comes out, its just one click and done. I always recalled android phone goes through steps in order to be rooted, and i do mean really long steps, and the smallest mess up would brick the phone, i know now that the bricking the phone is a lot less likely. But it is still hard to root the phone..
Also back in the day, all android phones can be rooted except for Verizon Android phones. Now all carrier Samsung galaxy phones cant be or takes time to root. things have changed in the community i see.
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With iphones you have to jailbreak just to get it semi-useful. My tmo s9+ had hardly anything already on it that wasn't easily removable. No need for root IMO.
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With iphones you have to jailbreak just to get it semi-useful. My tmo s9+ had hardly anything already on it that wasn't easily removable. No need for root IMO.
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Well, the main reason why I want to root is to find a bypass for the tethering. Example: On the iPhone there is a application called (Tetherme) it pretty much bypass the tethering provision so that the hotspot usage shows up as Phone usage not Hotspot usage.
I want to do that on the Samsung Galaxy s9+, I want to use the native tethering connectivity that is on the device and have it show up as phone usage not hotspot usage.
What I'm going to end up doing is selling my phone in order to purchase one directly from Samsung.
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Well, the main reason why I want to root is to find a bypass for the tethering. Example: On the iPhone there is a application called (Tetherme) it pretty much bypass the tethering provision so that the hotspot usage shows up as Phone usage not Hotspot usage.
I want to do that on the Samsung Galaxy s9+, I want to use the native tethering connectivity that is on the device and have it show up as phone usage not hotspot usage.
What I'm going to end up doing is selling my phone in order to purchase one directly from Samsung.
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Same over here iwant hotspot tether s9 plus iwas om iPhone 6s plus jailbroken I miss my hot spot :crying: