Hey XDA! This is my first post so bear with me...
Recently Acer announced their new Tegra K1 Chromebook and I have to say it's pretty intriguing. I really want to buy one, my only problem being Chrome OS. Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's just not robust enough for me. I want to really make use of the K1 by playing more high end games like ones for Android that are more optimized for it. Touchscreen not being a huge issue here. I'd use a PS3 controller of course. Plus with all the apps already developed for the Droid platform it makes a lot more sense than web based Chrome OS.
So, question time.....
Do you think it would be possible to install KitKat or maybe even Android L Beta on a system like this? I have researched it a little and the Tegra uses ARMv7 architecture. I don't know a whole lot about what that means, but as far as I understand it's 64-bit not 32. Does that mean I would have to use a special KitKat OS on this? Also how in the world would I go about doing this? I have successfully installed Ubuntu (I think 12.04) on an older Samsung Chromebook which dual boots both Ubuntu and Chrome OS; however, I am not sure that the steps involved would be the same. Seeing as how this is a fairly new device, Google is of no help whatsoever....
EXTRA, EXTRA!
Would it be possible to make Android the default OS so it auto boots without going to the OS verification screen?
Thanks for reading! Really hope I can get some answers, looking forward to doing some "real" gaming on the cheap!
Is it possible to port Android Wear 2.0 from emulator image to a G Watch? A developer ported the ZenWatch 2 system to the Gear 2 Neo so it might be possible to port from LG Watch Urbane 2 LTE, remove all features that are not compatible (SIM, WiFi, etc...) and make a ROM for G Watch. Anyone with experience here?
Developer ab123321 has ported Android Wear 2.0 from the LG G Watch R to Dory: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72738902&postcount=342
This thread is now discussion about Wear 2.0
konradit said:
Is it possible to port Android Wear 2.0 from emulator image to a G Watch? A developer ported the ZenWatch 2 system to the Gear 2 Neo so it might be possible to port from LG Watch Urbane 2 LTE, remove all features that are not compatible (SIM, WiFi, etc...) and make a ROM for G Watch. Anyone with experience here?
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This is definitely doable, just not sure how things work exactly with the watches as far as partitions go. Maybe some of the previous ROM devs on here can help out with that bit, I am new to supporting wear devices. If we can get the blobs ironed out it should be pretty easy, we should have part of a device tree from TWRP.
@DespairFactor Hi, nice to see you around here!
Do you have the G Watch? I can provide anything you need. I have 6.0.1 Wear, root (read only /system) and TWRP 3.0.2-0. Let's just wait for a square watch to receive N preview, or maybe port from emulator image? Most people believe the G Watch will not get updated due to not having a crown button, a crown button is crucial for Android Wear since it now acts as a back function, instead of the traditional swipe to left. Also the G Watch has now 3 major OS versions (KK, LP, MM) so it's not a surprise Google abandon it now, following Nexus update cycle. The watch is incredibly useful even after the years. @invisiblek made a very good kernel for G Watch, maybe he can help. As far as the partitions go, I will reply later with a command output.
Also I can make a little app to perform a back command using swipe to left gesture like most Android Wear unofficial launchers do
DespairFactor said:
This is definitely doable, just not sure how things work exactly with the watches as far as partitions go. Maybe some of the previous ROM devs on here can help out with that bit, I am new to supporting wear devices. If we can get the blobs ironed out it should be pretty easy, we should have part of a device tree from TWRP.
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See my previous answer.
Here is everything about partitions: https://gist.github.com/KonradIT/e2372ac3d74e671a3e98e8d3ecb93676
System dump: (adb pulling, will upload later)
About porting from an emulator image, are there cases of stable ports from Android emulator? I have a square android wear 280x280 cloned G Watch emulator instance running Android Wear N, I can also upload it.
Google released N Wear Developer Preview for the Huawei Watch and LG G Watch Urbane 2gen LTE, both round watches. For the G watch, a square watch is needed. Google will probably release a developer image for Asus ZenWatch 2 or Sony Smartwatch 3 (or even Samsung Gear Live??) down the road. The Asus ZenWatch 1 also does not have a crown, making it less likely to receive Android Wear 2.0 N.
G Watch and ZenWatch 2 have pretty similar specs (same SoC, same graphics module, same RAM, same internal storage space):
G Watch: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_watch_w100-7718.php
ZenWatch 2: http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenwatch_2_wi501q-7689.php
(G watch does not have a speaker btw, ZenWatch 2 does!)
Regarding TWRP, build here (it works wonders): http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...recovery-twrp-2-7-1-0-touch-recovery-t2827887
I personally love my G Watch a lot, looks like I'm not upgrading this year!
konradit said:
See my previous answer.
Here is everything about partitions: https://gist.github.com/KonradIT/e2372ac3d74e671a3e98e8d3ecb93676
System dump: (adb pulling, will upload later)
About porting from an emulator image, are there cases of stable ports from Android emulator? I have a square android wear 280x280 cloned G Watch emulator instance running Android Wear N, I can also upload it.
Google released N Wear Developer Preview for the Huawei Watch and LG G Watch Urbane 2gen LTE, both round watches. For the G watch, a square watch is needed. Google will probably release a developer image for Asus ZenWatch 2 or Sony Smartwatch 3 (or even Samsung Gear Live??) down the road. The Asus ZenWatch 1 also does not have a crown, making it less likely to receive Android Wear 2.0 N.
G Watch and ZenWatch 2 have pretty similar specs (same SoC, same graphics module, same RAM, same internal storage space):
G Watch: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_watch_w100-7718.php
ZenWatch 2: http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenwatch_2_wi501q-7689.php
(G watch does not have a speaker btw, ZenWatch 2 does!)
Regarding TWRP, build here (it works wonders): http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...recovery-twrp-2-7-1-0-touch-recovery-t2827887
I personally love my G Watch a lot, looks like I'm not upgrading this year!
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They generally will not expand the preview to other devices, they don't ever do it. Also, the OS likely has the images and stuff for the square devices in case others want to port it. I can see Sony doing it themselves and releasing it, but not ASUS. Regardless, I would need to pull apart the G watch system dump for vendor files and to rip apart the developer preview images to see what we can do with it. Chances are it'll take quite a bit of work, so I would be open to having others jump in to help out. Perhaps this should turn into a github org/hangouts chat.
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They generally will not expand the preview to other devices, they don't ever do it. Also, the OS likely has the images and stuff for the square devices in case others want to port it. I can see Sony doing it themselves and releasing it, but not ASUS. Regardless, I would need to pull apart the G watch system dump for vendor files and to rip apart the developer preview images to see what we can do with it. Chances are it'll take quite a bit of work, so I would be open to having others jump in to help out. Perhaps this should turn into a github org/hangouts chat.
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Do you have the G Watch? I forgot my cradle and I am pushing the image via bluetooth, so it will take some hours. Any other partition you need? My emulator image is x86, download armeabi v7 now! (https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sys-img/android-wear/sysimg_wear_armeabi-v7a-N_r01.zip if anyone needs it)
konradit said:
Do you have the G Watch? I forgot my cradle and I am pushing the image via bluetooth, so it will take some hours. Any other partition you need? My emulator image is x86, download armeabi v7 now! (https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sys-img/android-wear/sysimg_wear_armeabi-v7a-N_r01.zip if anyone needs it)
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I do have one, I also have a Moto 360.
DespairFactor said:
This is definitely doable, just not sure how things work exactly with the watches as far as partitions go. Maybe some of the previous ROM devs on here can help out with that bit, I am new to supporting wear devices. If we can get the blobs ironed out it should be pretty easy, we should have part of a device tree from TWRP.
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DespairFactor said:
I do have one, I also have a Moto 360.
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Cool, here is a folder with everything: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-CbH9Yv1OUWM2tHdGRtdkliSkE&usp=sharing
/armeabi-v7a are the Android Wear N emulator files
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.avd is a folder with settings from emulator which is similar to G Watch in terms of specs
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.ini is a file for emulator
/system_g_watch_mm.img is a system dump from G Watch with the latest Wear OS (MM)
So, what is left to start porting?
Gonna try my skills over there. Let's see what we can get with our lovely G Watch. @konradit there's as much info/files as we need I think. I'm starting porting this weekend.
konradit said:
Cool, here is a folder with everything: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-CbH9Yv1OUWM2tHdGRtdkliSkE&usp=sharing
/armeabi-v7a are the Android Wear N emulator files
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.avd is a folder with settings from emulator which is similar to G Watch in terms of specs
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.ini is a file for emulator
/system_g_watch_mm.img is a system dump from G Watch with the latest Wear OS (MM)
So, what is left to start porting?
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I will have to look when I can get acces to drive, I don't have access here
DespairFactor said:
I will have to look when I can get acces to drive, I don't have access here
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Are the files useful? I am doing the swipe left to back app too.
bemolx said:
Gonna try my skills over there. Let's see what we can get with our lovely G Watch. @konradit there's as much info/files as we need I think. I'm starting porting this weekend.
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Nice, please post updates here
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Nice, please post updates here
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Okay, I will. No problem
you made my day if you can port it
I am hoping the LG G watch can be compatible with Android Wear 2.0.
ericdabbs said:
I am hoping the LG G watch can be compatible with Android Wear 2.0.
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Not supported, it has been discontinued: https://twitter.com/LGUSAMobile/status/735246368609083392
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Not supported, it has been discontinued: https://twitter.com/LGUSAMobile/status/735246368609083392
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Well you see it does say jk so I think he's joking.. And besides that doesn't mean anything
goast said:
Well you see it does say jk so I think he's joking.. And besides that doesn't mean anything
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I believe he/she was serious. I think JK is initials of the customer rep who wrote that reply.
xymic said:
I believe he/she was serious. I think JK is initials of the customer rep who wrote that reply.
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Well that's awesome. We all have opinions and are allowed to have them. Why wouldn't they include it? Because of one review that says something about a button? All software companies deny any info about updates, so nothing to see here.
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I will have to look when I can get acces to drive, I don't have access here
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Any update on this?
Recently I finally decided to change my car's headunit from a simple plain FM/CD player to something more new.
I was exploring the Android head units and the chinese headunits available in Amazon and Ebay and via my endless Google searches I stumbled upon a "Tablet variation" of a headunit system from the Android Authority guides. That was all I wanted and so I decided to go for the cheap route and choose the tablet method, as I want something that has the full Android experience but at the same time use my tablet at home.
I already have the most parts at hand, like the audio amplifier from my old radio unit (thank god I chose Alpine 8 years ago) and the cables needed to carry out such a project. I intend to use a Joycon EXR to control audio and app usage from my steering wheel.
Anyways, my question is, is there a ROM that uses Google's Android Automotive OS (not Android Auto App), the full Android Automotive OS variant? I know it may be difficult to actually produce such a ROM as only recently Google, released the APIs for developers. Or is there an Android ROM flavour that is minimal/light but at the same time offers the experience of the Automotive OS? I don't want to resort to the available Android launchers designed for such purposes, nor Android Auto, for the obvious reason of spending some time doing something that is fun and challenging. Apart from that, it is a project so any suggestions, ideas and help is greatly appreciated.
Note to moderators: If my thread post is not considered an Android Auto discussion please move it to the relevant category.
I also wonder this. Android Automotive is opensource. And rather then tablet I have crappy chinese noname unit, with standart android preinstalled. I also wonder about how can I transform this to "Android Automotive"
There is a port for Galaxy Tab S5e.
Android Automotive is made for cars but this developer ported it to a Samsung tablet
Android Automotive is designed to run on cars, but that hasn't stopped these developers from porting it to run on a Samsung tablet!
www.xda-developers.com
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I also wonder this. Android Automotive is opensource. And rather then tablet I have crappy chinese noname unit, with standart android preinstalled. I also wonder about how can I transform this to "Android Automotive"
There is a port for Galaxy Tab S5e.
Android Automotive is made for cars but this developer ported it to a Samsung tablet
Android Automotive is designed to run on cars, but that hasn't stopped these developers from porting it to run on a Samsung tablet!
www.xda-developers.com
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You can compile Android Automotive from the AOSP source.